Petition to Increase Ignore List Size

Kyran of the Flames

Kyran of the Flames

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Pride and Glory

W/R

Many or almost all of you have ran into the same problem in Guild Wars: so many jerks, not enough space to hold them all. Just today for instance I had to remove an old jerk from my ignore list to make room for a new one. I figured, "this guy has been on here so long he doesn't remember me, so I should be safe". Lo and behold 3 minutes after I remove him he starts PMing me with the line "I have cmoe to steel your pickel". Don't ask me what he's talking about, he's probably 12, bought his account with a rank 10, and has no idea what he's doing.

Back to the manner at hand. I wish to start at petition in the hopes that Gaile or another A.net admin will see this and percieve the problem as we see it. If there is already a petition for this on Guru, I apologize to the admins but I could not find it in search.

Personally I think there shouldn't be a size for the ignore list, or at least it should have one slot for every player in GW, but that's unrealistic. Increasing the list by 20-90 should be sufficient. If you are for the idea, /signed is appropriate, if not, no post is necessary.


Increase Ignore List Size - /signed

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

/notsigned.

Do what I do, place them on Ignore, then remove them after five minutes, If they still PM you, then you know for a fact they are Dark Basement Masterbators With no lives.

Or you could try and be nicer to people. That also always works.

gameshoes3003

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

This was talked about before but you shoud try switching who you ignore. Or if a person on the friends list hasn't even talked to you in forever, you can take him off to fix it.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Maybe someday Anet will realise that people want to ignore more than 10 people among the 1000s who play...

Mezmo

Mezmo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyran of the Flames

If you are for the idea, /signed is appropriate, if not, no post is necessary.]
Um, asking people not post if they don't want this is like saying I only wanna hear who agrees with me, no other opinions matter. I personally don't have a problem with with the ignore list so
/not signed

Eviance

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

R/

I don't atm have a problem with my ignore list... BUT many times I have to choose between putting an idiot on the list or scammers... both are in abundance but which one hurts me more.... In a way its equal in my head so I think upping the ignore list would help me to be able to better ignore scammers and idiots and that would make me happy XD

/signed


Mezmo I think he is just trying to avoid flames or debates is all - if the general populace likes the idea then the OPs thread will explode with posts - if not it will barely make two pages. However by saying don't post he gets answers like yours even though polite and he's trying to avoid any arguments but saying that likely stirred the pot more than just letting everyone have their opinion....

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

/signed

I hate stupid people

eternal pho

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Licious Fame Farmers {TLG}

W/E

/signed

Even though my ignore list is empty right now, hotheads can be annoying.

Scavenger Rage

Scavenger Rage

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Brazil

dTe - Do The Evolution

N/Mo

/not signed

Lex Talionis

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

in the real world away from virtual idiots

Wtf Is Guildwars [Duno]

/signed x10

I hate ppl who just pm you to annoy the shit out of you. You should be able to fit an equal amount of ppl on ignore list as you would with your friends list. There's a ton of griefers who lose in pvp and do nothing but pm you on how you suck/cheated etc. To those ppl i say cry more please. Same applies to other queers who can't stand the fact you won't buy/sell an item for a certain amount of money and spam you trying to force you to give in.


At least double the size of the ignore list. Doesn't need to be 100 ppl limit or w/e (20 person limit sounds fine imo) To the ppl who say, 'oh you could just delete them from the list' oh um gee I didn't think of that Some ppl just have no life and decide to just keep on annoying you. BTW Anet Devs You might want to fix a strange bug I have been experiencing lately. Individuals who are on my ignore list have somehow found a way to pm me even though I'm ignoring them on the very same account. I say this here since i haven't gotten a response in the 2 weeks since reporting this bug.

Hell Marauder

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

/signed

If your ignore list is full, and some old jerk you want to remove from your list still griefs you, do like I do: make him put you on his ignore list instead.

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

/signed

The larger the capacity for the ignore list, the better.

For now if you're out of space and find trouble, you could put yourself "offline."

nomercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

/signed

I dont understand how people not sign this. And I dont understand WHY there is a limit on ignoring either! Who cares wheter I ignore just 1 guy, or the entire Guild Wars. Thats up to me isnt it.

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

/Not signed

I hate ppl who put me the ignore list, and all of them are HUGE jerks. Its usually when im buying something, i ask them wat price and i say that i don't have enough and offer them a lower price... WTF, WHY WOUL PPL IGNORE YOU BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE IN PRICING XP.

Don't get me wrong, the ignore list is a godsend for those little kids .... but i hate when jerks use it. Personally I think that the maximum is OK. Anet just wants us to have fun...not be rude to other people that we disagree with (regardless if *he started it*).

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

/signed

god i hate stalkers -.-

people who dont understand the meaning of "I dont wanna cyber with you go the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO away"

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Lol, Lyra got RED ENGINE GO'd. I guess you should watch your language.

I personally have a rather memerable name, so I would expect many morons to rember it and bug me. However, most people I have put on my ignore list have not bugged me a week afterwards when I remove their name from my list.
I guess I'm just lucky, or people on Euro servers actually have lives, and so don't bother with dumb stuff like whispering a guy who got them mad a week ago.

But, the main reason I clear out people after a week, is because I know the list has a limit. So even though it doesn't do anything for me;

/signed

NotCool

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/Me

Quote:
I hate ppl who put me the ignore list, and all of them are HUGE jerks. Its usually when im buying something, i ask them wat price and i say that i don't have enough and offer them a lower price... WTF, WHY WOUL PPL IGNORE YOU BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE IN PRICING XP.
How many ppl do you think do that??? There might be a few ppl like that, but I highly doubt that the whole pop of GW ignores you because you offer a lower price.

/signed even though I don't necissarily need it. BTW, there aren't any good reasons to not increase it.

Scavenger Rage

Scavenger Rage

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Brazil

dTe - Do The Evolution

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by NotCool
How many ppl do you think do that??? There might be a few ppl like that, but I highly doubt that the whole pop of GW ignores you because you offer a lower price.

/signed even though I don't necissarily need it. BTW, there aren't any good reasons to not increase it.
More data per account stored more server required to store it.

I know it can be near zero to the server to handle 10 - 20 - 30 - 100 people on 1 person ignore list...but we gotta mutiply it by 2 000 000.

AND even if it still was near nothing, its still useless server space that could ve been put to a better use.

The ignore list is just fine the way it is, so please, do not fix what is not broken, at least not until we fixed all the other important things.

Latter.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

/not signed

Just take someone off. They wont remember you anyway. Learn to to ignore idiots yourself. Dont let them get to you so easy.

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

/notsigned

Just take the old guys off your list. If you're ignoring more than 10 people at once... maybe the problem isn't with them. If you have people that have been ignored for more than a week, unignore them. Chances are they've forgotten about you.

No point to it.

Aki Soyokaze

Aki Soyokaze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Vancouver

/signed

But only if they either A.) don't allow you to page someone who is on your ignore list or B.) allow you to respond to someone who puts you on ignore and pages you.

Hand of Ruin

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyran of the Flames
Many or almost all of you have ran into the same problem in Guild Wars: so many jerks, not enough space to hold them all. Just today for instance I had to remove an old jerk from my ignore list to make room for a new one. I figured, "this guy has been on here so long he doesn't remember me, so I should be safe". Lo and behold 3 minutes after I remove him he starts PMing me with the line "I have cmoe to steel your pickel". Don't ask me what he's talking about, he's probably 12, bought his account with a rank 10, and has no idea what he's doing.
LMAO! You have no idea how hard that made me laugh. Can you send me this guy's name through a pm? I really wana talk to to him lol. Honestly, that's hillarious and I do stuff like that a lot. I can't believe you consider him a jerk...

teenchi

teenchi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

PST

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/Mo

/signed

I could use at least 10 more slots. I run a fairly big guild and I keep major offenders that I've kicked out of the guild on there. I want to make sure they stay ignored so they don't ask to come back in like a lot of them do. I also have a really easy IGN so people remember it and recognize it and "reharrass me".

El Panty Bandito

El Panty Bandito

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Kansas

[LaZy]

Mo/Me

/not signed

If you really have that many arguments / disagreements with that many people, maybe it is YOU, that is the immature or ignorant person.

Rera

Rera

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

/signed

Server space is the *only* reasonable defense for not increasing the size of the ignore list.

What other reason is there for ever having to remove anyone from you ignore list? Players should be able to put anyone on their ignore list, for any reason, and for any length of time. Whether you're a jerk or a saint is irrelevant.

The fix I prefer is the ability to block everyone that isn't on your friends list.

AJM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Order of the Soulflame

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rera
The fix I prefer is the ability to block everyone that isn't on your friends list.
ANet wants to promote social interaction, so that will NEVER, EVER IN A MILLION YEARS happen. I'm not trying to be rude, but that's how ANet sells this game.

Anyway, I'm gonna point out now that spammers are typically very persistent, and are also immature and can hold grudges for a long time. It IS NOT inconceivable (or even close) that they could just get 10 spammer buddies so one of them would be able to get through (YES, this happens). If they really don't like you, they might put you on their friends list and occasionally test to see if you are once again vulnerable to them (AGAIN, this DOES happen).

I believe that ANet needs to increase the size of the ignore list. Oh, and while we're on the topic, they ought to vastly increase the size of the friends list, mine is constantly overflowing, with active people and/or very close (for having never met each other in person, at least) friends who I am loathe to remove.

/signed

Rera

Rera

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

I argue that my idea does promote social interaction - *healthy* social interaction.

Consider this: as it is right now, you don't have to do any work to talk to people. Just pick a random name in town and spam away. If, on the other hand, you had to earn a place on their friend's list before you could message them, it would encourage you to actually play with people and be civil. And again, I'm saying that Anet should give us the *option*. If you're fine with allowing anyone to message you, that's great. But for those of us that have lost all faith in the GW community and would rather not deal with all of the mindless bull****, it'd be nice to have a catch-all solution.

Think about it another way: you don't hand out your phone number to random people, and we all get angry when we get unsolicited phone calls from strangers. Companies have implemented features like Caller ID specifically to screen calls. Why, then, should in-game messaging be any different?

Cowboy Nastyman

Cowboy Nastyman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Me/Mo

as a person that spends most of his time in RA i agree that this is a must, you beat someone and they pm you talking shit.

personally i'd prefer a new status option, friends list only, receive pms onyl from people on your friend list, solves the problem completely.

/signed

Gigashadow

Gigashadow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Bellevue, WA

W/

Here's a solution ArenaNet will love:

If you pay $10, you can increase your ignore list size to 200.

AJM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Order of the Soulflame

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rera
I argue that my idea does promote social interaction - *healthy* social interaction.

Consider this: as it is right now, you don't have to do any work to talk to people. Just pick a random name in town and spam away. If, on the other hand, you had to earn a place on their friend's list before you could message them, it would encourage you to actually play with people and be civil. And again, I'm saying that Anet should give us the *option*. If you're fine with allowing anyone to message you, that's great. But for those of us that have lost all faith in the GW community and would rather not deal with all of the mindless bull****, it'd be nice to have a catch-all solution.

Think about it another way: you don't hand out your phone number to random people, and we all get angry when we get unsolicited phone calls from strangers. Companies have implemented features like Caller ID specifically to screen calls. Why, then, should in-game messaging be any different?
First off, ANet will NEVER accept that argument. EVER. The marketing strategy that has made Guild Wars succesful requires that they refuse that argument. They accept it, they lose a lot of money, or more likely don't get it in the first place from lack of new customers.

Secondly, if people could not talk to you, how would anyone get on your friends list in the first place? Most likely, they wouldn't. The only people who could get onto it are people you know from somewhere else. Even if, as I certainly hope you were intending, you could talk freely in team chat, how would you get a team together in the first place? Even if you have many friends already, and used that option, ANet will not do anything that forms a barrier against making new friends, especially not something which could allow a person starting in the game to ignore everyone at all times.

If you have indeed 'lost all faith in the GW community', which is not entirely believable, since you're here, then there is really only one solution. Stop playing.

I know it's harsh, but if you don't want to deal with idiots in an online game, the only solution is not to play said online game. Go play a single-player game if you don't want to deal with idiots. Wherever thare are people, there will be idiots.

Think about that. I leave you with a quote, for now...

"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." -Douglas Adams

Rera

Rera

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

As I said, it would be an *option*, for those (like me) that wanted to exercise it.

You'd get a team in the first place by turning the option off, obviously. Or, you could have the option apply only to PMs, because there's an easier way to block people spamming local: toggle the channel off.

That reminds me of another point. See, the funny thing about having such a limited ignore list is that I'm forced to play with all channels except 'Team' turned off. I can't turn local chat on because of all the people I would want to block but can't, because my ignore list was full from day 1. In theory it might have seemed counter-intuitive that a *smaller* ignore list would actually lead to *less* interaction, but that is what's actually happening.

I play GW with my friends and guildmates, so there's no reason for me to quit. Certainly as you say, where there are people, there are idiots, but a well-designed game will allow you to control your interaction with said idiots without severly impacting your ability to play the game. GW is almost there, actually. The availability of henchmen means that you never have to actually *play* with idiots in PvE if you don't want to, and in PvP you can punish idiots by killing them (which is true in any competitive game, certainly). The only thing that's missing, then, is a way to prevent idiots from talking to us.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I need more space for friends list isntead.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

/not signed

Ive been playing 14+ months roughly and I've never needed to add anyone to ignore.

Yes ppl have called me "noob" or other lame shit like "ebayer" for owning fissure but im mature enough to ignore it and move on. Try it out.

Spike

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

In front of my PC

Kai

E/Mo

Oh yes we defenatly need more space on our ignore lists. The spam in the major hub towns is SOO bad now I never turn on local chat any more in there and very rarely if ever have it on at all if I can help it.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Whats the ignore list got to do with spam? If you add spammers to the list then thats just dumb.

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

/signed
Dont want to get rid of old baddies to add new baddies. There are tons of baddies i really dont like I Usually dont use the term baddies to describe them, But this is a public forum

Soldat

Soldat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

TX

Fashion Police [chic]

umm, why would u need this, when all you haf to do is not get in huge arguments w/ every1. Unless ur in a highly ranked guild and dont want hundreds of ppl msging u, i dont see the need for this. After a week of sum1 bein on ur ignore list. They prolly never msg u agin, assuming they're on your ignore list forever.

LadyNilene

LadyNilene

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Silver Millenium

E/Me

/sign

*shifty eyes* lol, ive done enough pvp to know that people are just angry and dumb, ignoring them only goes so far...and its not only just immature people...its for scammers too (Necros/Monks that cheat UW pts, Faulty Forge Runners, Etc Etc) ignoring only goes so far, it doesnt prevent scammers from scamming you again (people tend to forget, and if they dont, they can easily get on a different character and such) its arguable, but i think increasing the ignore list is a must.

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

I've played over a year, and I don't think I've ever had anyone say anything bad to me unless I provoked it. And even then, my ignore list is empty because no one is that persistant.

Personally I think the OP needs to learn to be a decent human being and not a jerk. Even if there are 2 or 3 persistant people then you still have room for them, not really that big of a deal. If you really want you can go Offline or Do Not Disturb and still talk in guild chat... if you have a guild.

Demesis

Demesis

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai Nui
I've played over a year, and I don't think I've ever had anyone say anything bad to me unless I provoked it. And even then, my ignore list is empty because no one is that persistant.

Personally I think the OP needs to learn to be a decent human being and not a jerk. Even if there are 2 or 3 persistant people then you still have room for them, not really that big of a deal. If you really want you can go Offline or Do Not Disturb and still talk in guild chat... if you have a guild.
You have no idea how important it is to increase the ignore list.

You're a saint, good for you.

But some of us aern't that lucky and we get persistent people spamming us with private messages with really nasty stuff.

edit: Oh, and btw /signed x100