time for 30k, 60k and 100k armors...

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

/notsigned

I don't know how the OP can justify creating these new armors, given how the large majority of people here are opposed to it. If you want to be "amazed by awesomeness", design your own stuff and send it in.

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

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The Only 50k armour I Could ever imagine being released Is a flashback to GW roots (I eman come on, Same People, MANY MANY of the same modles used in both games)

White Godly Armour.

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

I love the idea of a high ticket armor set. You guys complaining about the grind it would take to get it, well I think it shouldn't be easily attainable. It should take you a few chapters to get it. Heck, make it where it takes 105 ecto, 105 shards, 105 amber, 105 jadeite, 105 Elonian Steel, etc. So you would have to get pieces from each chapter to get it. On top of that, make it 100k per piece.

We really need an ultimate set of armor.

And I don't think Anet would not offer it just because of botters selling gold on ebay. That is just ridiculous.

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

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No, Not threw every chapter, not everybody has All chapters. Plus its just exageration. You can't carry more then 100k on any given character, you'd ahve to make multiple trips.

No its just assinine.

seandom

seandom

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Bay Area, CA

Nine Inch Males [IX]

W/E

/notsigned

Give it time, when chapter 5 rolls around there will be alot less clones. Not to mention for alot of people, 15k is already expensive enough.

Gagonaka

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

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want a 100k armor? go buy the cheapest FoW armor lol

curtman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

/notsigned

This would cause mass inflation on the prices of items being sold in districts. Most players do not have $ enough to get 15k set, much the less 60-100k range. Every one not a gold farmer or buyer would just increase the selling prices of their weapons, dye, mats, and components.

It would also increase gold buying.

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

Quote:
Originally Posted by KoalaMeatPie
No, Not threw every chapter, not everybody has All chapters. Plus its just exageration. You can't carry more then 100k on any given character, you'd ahve to make multiple trips.

No its just assinine.
That is exactly the point of my post. It should be hard to attain. I bet you don't remember having to do 5 runs to get fully infused.

Ranger Egg

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/Mo

I think Night Fall should come out with tons more armor. but 100k armors a bit much mabey 50k or 60k but not 100k. To think about the money and materials is way to much. the people would not even try to buy it! But i must aggree that some people will spend evry last bit of money they have just to buy it. But then even more twinks would hapen like level 10s with 100k armor! I guess trhey could make the armory guy in the middle of millions of enemys like FOW but you must go solo! Then low levels will stay away.

Pepsi Jedi

Pepsi Jedi

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mobil Infantry Battalion (MIB)

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I personally don't like the idea.

I'm all for "More" types of armor. At all levels. Let it be a bit more spread out so there is a bit more individuality. But going past 15K doesn't really prove much other than you spend waaaaay too much time playing a game.

Sure... you've SPENT the time and saved up and got the ultra expensive armor, (( Or bought the gold on Ebay)) But it doesn't denote amazing ammounts of skill. Just amazing ammounts of wasted time.

I want uniquic armor. I don't even have a set of 15 K yet. Heck I think the most gold my char has right now is about 2 K and she's level 18. But I'm not going to spend literal weeks farming bad guys out side of the story line to get a different mesh of armor for my char. That's just silly to me anyway.

I get the stuff that provides the best armor class and stuff I can afford. Then if there's more than one I may go for looks.

Right now I"m runnin' around in a set of Gladiator armor dyed neon green. I like it. It's fun to fight in and watch as I go though the story. If it was the cheepest armor (Gold wise)) in the game, but stats same as more expensive ones.. I'm buying the cheepest.

Sure.. I"m not above splurging a bit to get the "look" I personally like.. but going past 15K on armor isn't going to make you any cooler. When it's all said and done. It's armor. Unless the 100K armor is pastys with twirling blades of nipple death... there's no point other than bragging rights.

Personally (( And yes I realize that's just me)) I don't need to spend a month for a different set of armor on my video game. It's my way to Relax. That sounds too much like WORK.

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

Me/

/notsigned

dont want more inflation of prices

Electric Sky

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

/notsigned

dont see the point of 100k armours if they have the exact same stats as 15k and 1.5k armours

baz777

baz777

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

South East England

Leader: Lady Hairy Armpits S[mell]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Electric Sky
/notsigned

dont see the point of 100k armours if they have the exact same stats as 15k and 1.5k armours
And we don't want better stats armour for just those that can afford it

/notsigned

led-zep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

/signed

not enough variety in the game, everyone looks the same and at any given tim ein a populated town you can find at least one person who is identicle to you.

and for those who dont see the point, some of us have loads of gold we will never spend as there isnt much to spend large amounts on in gw, i could quite easily afford 100k armour as now all my gold just mounts up with nothing worth spending out on.

Dako Changed

Dako Changed

Guest

Join Date: Jul 2006

Palmer, Alaska

E/R

Lawnmower, you are a genius! (Oddly enough, that's not sarcasm)

I mean, I can even afford normal 15k armor, and I still think hugely expensive armor would rock. I mean, talk about goals! And the more variety the merrier. besides, how does someone start an elitist culture in an online MMO just by looking better? Sounds like petty childishness to me, and good riddance to anyone who would do something like it. I think this would be both fun and rewarding, life's not fair.

/signed (By the way I think typing '/notsigned' is a little stupid, if you don't support it just son't say '/signed'... but eh, that's just my opinion, feel the idiocy D: <)

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

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15k is already useless, fow is useless...why should A.Net even make those armours in the first place???

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawnmower
What I don't get, is why you oppose it. Are you just one of does people who like to be mr.-oppesite?

it doesnt affect you. If you dont want to pursue the armor, then don't. Let people who got more money than they can spend, get something worth bragging about to their friends. its just skins, but its a goal and achivement and a reason to keep playing, and a reason to be proud of what you have accomplished in the game.

I don't get it... I really don't.
If this happens, it will be a goal of requirement, not achivement.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

hehe lawnmower..brave lad

when you suggest something ppl cant afford or will have to work hard for you will get bashed and you will have your ass flamed to hell and back.

To those with money this is a good idea...aslong as it isnt unbalanced (better then droks) then there is no reason why this shouldnt exsist. Diversity is needed to keep a game alive.

Yes i expect "ppl will just ebay the money" type commentsand i say so what? ppl will ebay either so this makes no real arugment.

"This will increase leetism" <~plz, if you wish to worry about what some idotic schoolboy runs around saying then thats your problem.

From what ive seen from most of the responses is..

"I cant or wont farm for new armor" or "im poor so if i cant afford why should anyone else have it"

Electric Sky

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawnmower

Im getting so tired of seeing clones of myself constantly.
Im still trying to look for a clone of my ele...........

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

Censored

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/notsigned
15k and FoW armour is high end enough.

Lawnmover, which Game are you trying to change GW to look like this week?

Prosthetic

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Australia

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
God, now all this thread needs is some anime fan wanting Cat-Ears for purchase in the in-game store and we'll be all set.
Only if there is bunny ears too... and a bunny costume. mmm I can see my mesmer in it already.

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
Wings have already been discussed for armor. Frankly, it would be pointless for them to design that many skins for each profession.

/notsigned

p.s. this belongs in Sardelic, it doesn't even mention Nightfall
Then why not use existing armors? Think of all the cool armors the enemies have - stone summit, the mursaat, white mantle. Even NPCs have some great looking armors (Evennia, Rurik)... I mean the art for those armors is there and it's being wasted on the NPCs and mobs. Why not make them available from unique crafters? Why not add some sort of factions to existing factions in Tyria? Like - "slay the most chosen" to get white mantle faction, exchange that faction for some new crafting material and craft yourself a white mantle armor like confessor Dorian. Same goes for the stone summit, charr, ...

This also got me thinking of diablo2 armor sets: complete set gives a new bonus. That would be nice here. While I'm at it - why not institue rings and amulets too? Like "Ring of Mindless Fame Farming" that gives +1 to I Will Avenge You. Or "Amulet of Pet Killing" that kills your pet instantly so you can activate I Will Avenge You faster.

Glad Baasje

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Watch the Wankers

N/Me

/signed

Filling the gap between 15k and Fow armor is actually a good idea

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
God, now all this thread needs is some anime fan wanting Cat-Ears for purchase in the in-game store and we'll be all set.
Hmm, Cat Ears, you say? Not a bad idea. My Mesmer would love Cat Ears...

But seriously, back on topic, I think 15k armor is fine. Hell, if it's more grind you want, make the items you need for armor not available from the merchant.

That way, people will be forced to farm for the items they need to build the armor.

But more Gold? That's useless, really, IMO.

But I'm all for for more customized looks...

Cherrie

Cherrie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Echowald

Marked by [Fury]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dakota Stuart
/signed (By the way I think typing '/notsigned' is a little stupid, if you don't support it just son't say '/signed'... but eh, that's just my opinion, feel the idiocy D: <)
This would make the suggestion look like fully supported, and it aint.

/notsigned
GW would become farm-wars defenetly than, $ trade would increase, etc etc. Not a good idea at all imho.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cataphract
Then why not use existing armors? Think of all the cool armors the enemies have - stone summit, the mursaat, white mantle. Even NPCs have some great looking armors (Evennia, Rurik)... I mean the art for those armors is there and it's being wasted on the NPCs and mobs. Why not make them available from unique crafters? Why not add some sort of factions to existing factions in Tyria? Like - "slay the most chosen" to get white mantle faction, exchange that faction for some new crafting material and craft yourself a white mantle armor like confessor Dorian. Same goes for the stone summit, charr, ...

If that's the way you feel, then you my good sir need to visit this thread:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10041601

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nobody is forcing anyone to farm..they do it by choice, the 6k needed for droks doesnt need to be farmed if you play the game correctly there is a possibility that you might need to buy some mats but tough.

Ppl will ebay no matter what so that is just a lame excuse.

Nobody will be forced to buy this new armor IF added, its for those that want a bit of diversity in a game that lacks it and those with the cash to burn and yes another goldsink is needed.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

But if people keep farming more; and keep demanding new gold sinks; we'll soon have 50 mil armor which is just rediculous and pointless. The line must be drawn at some point and we may as well make our stand now. You can choose from 15k armor from Tyria/Cantha/and soon Elona as well as FoW armor. That's plenty variety as it is.

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

Also why would we make Anet spend their time designing new armors when they could use that time actually adding something worthwhile instead.

S!carius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Germany

Force of Arms [FoA]

Mo/

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Why not add more diversity into the game? As long as the stats are the same as 1.5k armor, there is no reason why there shouldn't be more expensive armors. I could never afford it though .

I don't know if having 30k, 60k, and 100k armor would be the best idea as you can't carry enough money on your character. Why not have something like 15k armor, but with more expensive materials? similar to the difference between regular 15k armor and the 15k kurzick/luxon armor.

Seph7

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Win Only Riders

R/

If you just want your character to look unique their is one easy way to do this DONT USE JUST ONE ARMOUR STYLE SET. Of course if you just use 1 armour style set your gena find a clone of you. Thats why I mix diffrent sets. My ranger has 15k everything but all diffrent looks

15k original druids coat
15k original frostbound legs
15k original drakescale boots
15k original leather golves
15k canha end game mask

then my monk

15k kurzick shoes and trousers
1.5k luxon chest arms and head

also theirs about 1000 or more diffrent design combos the only thing thats lacking is peoples lack of imagination and not being able 2 see outside the box.

If you just wana show your 1337 and rich and dont mind what the armour looks like then get FoW.

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

Censored

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by S!carius
Why not have something like 15k armor, but with more expensive materials? similar to the difference between regular 15k armor and the 15k kurzick/luxon armor.
Supply and demant dictates the material prices, as you might have seen with Jade/Amber,
all the 15K armours recuire "rare" materials to make

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

Quote:
Originally Posted by S!carius
/signed

Why not add more diversity into the game? As long as the stats are the same as 1.5k armor, there is no reason why there shouldn't be more expensive armors. I could never afford it though .

I don't know if having 30k, 60k, and 100k armor would be the best idea as you can't carry enough money on your character. Why not have something like 15k armor, but with more expensive materials? similar to the difference between regular 15k armor and the 15k kurzick/luxon armor.
You are contradicting yourself here...

The OP wanted more expensive armor you signed that even though what you actually want is more diverse armor which isn't really the same thing.

Also as I said above why should we make Anet spend their time designing new armors when they could use that time actually adding something worthwhile instead.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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As I said, if you really want to force Grind for your armor, forget raising the price.

Just make rare materials unavailable for purchase. This way, people are actually forced to farm for specific stuff and "earn" their armor.

If that's really what you want.

gabrial heart

gabrial heart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Las Vegas

Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]

Mo/Me

Yeah i like this idea too actually. I'm running out of end-game content for myself. My idea of grind was and is faction farming, so yeah i'd rather get good loot for my time then what factions had to offer for grind. I like the shard and glob deal now, i like the idea of FOW armor, even if most of it is ugly as sin. It shows accomplishment, whether earned in game or through real world money. And honestly real world money is alot harder to come by then in game cash.................... I'd love my bank account to say "100k"
And KOBD really is KOBD.... :P If you guys are grinding in this game or any other game for that matter, i think it's time you switched games or stopped playing them all together.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by majoho
Also why would we make Anet spend their time designing new armors when they could use that time actually adding something worthwhile instead.
Because Anet need to cater for those that can make 1mill in a day with no problems.

Back in my trading days i could have a made a mill in 1 trade..when you can make that kind of money FoW armor isnt a luxury item its just armor like 1.5k armor is to a average player.

Many ppl have nothing to do but farm...there needs to be a gold sink for those ppl. Granted all those that just farm hours on end could leave the game but why should they if they like the game and like the grind of farming?

But like the weapon modding debate this is another one that wont be settled.

Lawnmower

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
As I said, if you really want to force Grind for your armor, forget raising the price.

Just make rare materials unavailable for purchase. This way, people are actually forced to farm for specific stuff and "earn" their armor.

If that's really what you want.
Works for me.

What I really want is something to do.


Note;

-I don't think titles are a worthy end game. I just think its to grey. They are kinda funny, but not worth it.

-Doing bonus on all missions is not something I care about...



I wanna trade more. I wanna sell and buy more stuff. It would be fine by me, if they added tons and tons and tons and tons and tons of uniqe and uniqe materials. Very very rare loot.

Perhaps it could work like this...


you go up to Bjorke Benjamin Wurtzswitz(let's call him that) - The best Armor crafter in all of Elonia.

Depending on what materials you bring for him, the stats, effects and bonus mods will vary. This means that making your armor will be much more personal.

Let's say you want to make a really awesome uniqe looking helmet.

Needed;

-10,000 Ectos

- 200,000 wood

- 30 Rubys

- 100 something else

- 500 something else

- 10 different uniqe parts that are scattered all over the world.



so you want skill to interfere to? then make pvp loot too - when you kill someone in pvp, or win in HoH or beat the underworld - make it so you can loot very hard stuff and other players, uniqe materials, and certain parts.

lets expand the crafting in a massive way... people always complain that GW is boring because of so little loot, and I agree.

Looting an enemy should give you tons of stuff. 4 items at least.


it would mean massive need for more storage upgrades... great opputunity here for more gold sink.

but I also think that materials should be able to be used for other things.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

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I do feel that as long as I have my 1.5k I'm content.. but that would esclate things market as well.

Now I would be for Reward armor that can only be done by quests / missions, etc from items that can't be traded/bought/sold. To me that would be "elite" armor.

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

Lawnmover are you a WoW player?

I mean GW doesn't have "end-game" content at all it's not that kind of game.

Make a new char if you're bored.

Cottage Pie

Cottage Pie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Birmingham, England

Taking Aegis

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawnmower
Then make it 10,000K. I don't care. Just make something truly rare and uniqe, that will make my eyes bleed of awesomeness.

but then only Akhilleus could wear it.