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Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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11 Sep 2006 at 16:57 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawnmower

Depending on what materials you bring for him, the stats, effects and bonus mods will vary. This means that making your armor will be much more personal.

Are you talking about unique bonuses?

If so, I'm totally against it.

Looks are one thing, I'm all for unique and special looks.

But everyone should have fairly easy accessibility to the same armor bonuses.

Spura

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

11 Sep 2006 at 18:26 - 82

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawnmower

What I don't get, is why you oppose it. Are you just one of does people who like to be mr.-oppesite?

it doesnt affect you. If you dont want to pursue the armor, then don't.

You can make same arguemnt for every damn feature people come up with. "if you don;t like it just don't use it".

There is a thing called reality, and in that reality Anet has limited amount of working hours to use on features each month. Which is exactly why they don't make gazillion new armors. Instead of working on 30k 60k and 100k sets(which is ton of work btw) they chould like make a new god's realm like fow or uw, which would offer REAL replayability. Instead you call putting in new expensive armor, which will make tards with too much spare time farm same monsters over and over with same gimmicked build, replayability.

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

11 Sep 2006 at 18:56 - 83

Quote:

Originally Posted by EternalTempest

/Not Sure...

I do feel that as long as I have my 1.5k I'm content.. but that would esclate things market as well.

Now I would be for Reward armor that can only be done by quests / missions, etc from items that can't be traded/bought/sold. To me that would be "elite" armor.

Same here.

/Not Sure

The Idea of Elite armor seems sound, but the work and costs needs to be more thought out.

I know that people will and have argued FoW armor as the "Elite Armor". But we are in the third Chapter, there should be more than one set.

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

R/

11 Sep 2006 at 18:58 - 84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawnmower

Works for me.

What I really want is something to do.

Note;

-I don't think titles are a worthy end game. I just think its to grey. They are kinda funny, but not worth it.

-Doing bonus on all missions is not something I care about...

I wanna trade more. I wanna sell and buy more stuff. It would be fine by me, if they added tons and tons and tons and tons and tons of uniqe and uniqe materials. Very very rare loot.

Perhaps it could work like this...

you go up to Bjorke Benjamin Wurtzswitz(let's call him that) - The best Armor crafter in all of Elonia.

Depending on what materials you bring for him, the stats, effects and bonus mods will vary. This means that making your armor will be much more personal.

Let's say you want to make a really awesome uniqe looking helmet.

Needed;

-10,000 Ectos

- 200,000 wood

- 30 Rubys

- 100 something else

- 500 something else

- 10 different uniqe parts that are scattered all over the world.

so you want skill to interfere to? then make pvp loot too - when you kill someone in pvp, or win in HoH or beat the underworld - make it so you can loot very hard stuff and other players, uniqe materials, and certain parts.

lets expand the crafting in a massive way... people always complain that GW is boring because of so little loot, and I agree.

Looting an enemy should give you tons of stuff. 4 items at least.

it would mean massive need for more storage upgrades... great opputunity here for more gold sink.

but I also think that materials should be able to be used for other things.

Do not turn GW into a "MMGGF" (Massive Multiplayer Grind Game Feast),
if you are so desperate for something to do, try further education, socialise in real world, take up a sport, get a kid, or designe your own game, you sure have enough ideas for it.

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

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11 Sep 2006 at 19:14 - 85

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Admins Bane

From what ive seen from most of the responses is..

"I cant or wont farm for new armor" or "im poor so if i cant afford why should anyone else have it"

from what I see, the response is that it will increase ebay buying, decrease player morale, inflate the economy, etc.

these things are all a little more important than what your little character looks like, or how little you have to do besides get even more expensive armor.

You guys need to get over this, and just deal with the fact that it AINT GONNA HAPPEN

/notsigned again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawnmower

10,000 Ectos

- 200,000 wood

- 30 Rubys

- 100 something else

- 500 something else

- 10 different uniqe parts that are scattered all over the world.

10 thousand ectos. you need to take some medication.

I have the 30 rubies already, they are cheap as hell.

-Im guessing you want your little armor crafter right in the middle of Ascalon City too, eh?

Go work on getting FoW armor if you want something crazy to undertake, my guess is you havent even played FoW or UW at all.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

11 Sep 2006 at 19:18 - 86

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawnmower
Works for me.

What I really want is something to do.

Note;

-I don't think titles are a worthy end game. I just think its to grey. They are kinda funny, but not worth it.

-Doing bonus on all missions is not something I care about...

I wanna trade more. I wanna sell and buy more stuff. It would be fine by me, if they added tons and tons and tons and tons and tons of unique and unique materials. Very very rare loot.

Perhaps it could work like this...

you go up to Bjorke Benjamin Wurtzswitz(let's call him that) - The best Armorcrafter in all of Elonia.

Depending on what materials you bring for him, the stats, effects and bonus mods will vary. This means that making your armor will be much more personal.

Let's say you want to make a really awesome unique looking helmet.

Needed;

-10,000 Ectos

- 200,000 wood

- 30 Ruby's

- 100 something else

- 500 something else

- 10 different unique parts that are scattered all over the world.

so you want skill to interfere to? then make pvp loot too - when you kill someone in pvp, or win in Ho or beat the underworld - make it so you can loot very hard stuff and other players, unique materials, and certain parts.

lets expand the crafting in a massive way... people always complain that GW is boring because of so little loot, and I agree.

Looting an enemy should give you tons of stuff. 4 items at least.

it would mean massive need for more storage upgrades... great opportunity here for more gold sink.

but I also think that materials should be able to be used for other things.

wow you have some imagination

this idea would turn the casual gamers red with rage..omg they dont have time to farm!!

too much grind in that idea sorry...plus the poor will only continue to whine even further

BTW nobody has 10,000 ecto...i had 3,000 at one point and that was considered alot, most invest in weapons ect as ecto price fluctuates too much

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

11 Sep 2006 at 19:19 - 87

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stockholm

... get a kid

In his case I think it would be illegal.

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

11 Sep 2006 at 20:01 - 88

I think Quest Armor would be cooler. And, it'd have to be HARD to get. Hence, No Noob FoW like people.

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

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11 Sep 2006 at 21:12 - 89

I would like there to be more types of armor. I see nothing wrong with having a range of armor that costs 30k - just having different looks.

Have is available from a new god's realm but profession specific, like the two armor crafters in The Divine Path for Assassins and Ritualists.

And redo FoW armor so that it's for Warriors only, once each profession has it's deity represented in their specific realm.

EagleEye33

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

In a House...duh

Untouchable Heroes

R/E

11 Sep 2006 at 21:13 - 90

Fow is expensive cause of the materials so thats goos enough, they could just make more styles of of armor likw that in other new areas (knelling to a different god)

We dont need more expensive armor prices are fine as it is. * Remember a while back Anet said that the majority of the people playing them game have a bout 20k at most times, so price does not need to increase.

All we need is more variety, but those things take time, I doubt they have that many people working on that area. I like the amount of variety so far somewhat. Maybe mix up your armor seeing as how they have the same stats. That will you'll have a chance of looking different.

th4r34lr0bin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

H E A R T L E S S

N/W

11 Sep 2006 at 21:56 - 91

what?

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/R

11 Sep 2006 at 22:39 - 92

Don't you guys remember diablo 2? That game was so fun because there was always cool rare loot for your character to pursue, so you could really look awesome.

god I miss the good old baal runs...

playing hardcore was so fun...

Aro Wyn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Immortal Soulz

E/Me

11 Sep 2006 at 22:52 - 93

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sereng Amaranth

That is exactly the point of my post. It should be hard to attain. I bet you don't remember having to do 5 runs to get fully infused.

Oh man, those were the days. I remember too well!

I agree with Retribution X - quest/mission armor. Sure, I would love to be rewarded with a new unique pair of shoes/boots or a fancy hate. Screw the weapon drop! I want armor rewards now!

Also....

/signed

I am game for spending my moula on expensive armor. Why the heck not? If you have everything you want already, and the money is sitting in the bank rotting, than release new expensive armor. Atleast it gives the "majority" of us "oldies" to grind away at.

Another idea - maybe have more customization with armor. Sure, most people must love those big chested Ele's and Rt's, but I cringe every time I have to run with my toon. Smaller chest customization I am game for!!!! (waits for the flamers)

Pepsi Jedi

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mobil Infantry Battalion (MIB)

W/R

11 Sep 2006 at 22:57 - 94

Ok I'm new to these forums. what's the

/signed and /unsigned thing? I think I can figure it out but want to be sure.

Dean Wormer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/

11 Sep 2006 at 23:00 - 95

/signed means you "sign" the Original Poster's (or OP) petition.

Blackhawk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/

11 Sep 2006 at 23:07 - 96

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph7

If you just wana show your 1337 and rich and dont mind what the armour looks like then get FoW.

Wearing FoW armour doesn't make you a 1337 player by a long shot, just shows you either farm the crap out of the game or bought the gold for it off ebay

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

11 Sep 2006 at 23:19 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackhawk

Wearing FoW armour doesn't make you a 1337 player by a long shot, just shows you either farm the crap out of the game or bought the gold for it off ebay

That is the typical uneducated reply from someone who is either new or just plain ignorant.

Lord Aro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

/wiki user:aro

DBU

E/

11 Sep 2006 at 23:44 - 98

/notsigned
New skins are good, but silly prices are not.

If anything, variety could come from the online store, and probably will. Why give the ebay sellers our cash when we can give anet more for the sake of vanity?

On another note, Lawnmower's images 700kb+ really do slow things down.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

11 Sep 2006 at 23:58 - 99

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aro

/notsigned
New skins are good, but silly prices are not.

If anything, variety could come from the online store, and probably will. Why give the ebay sellers our cash when we can give anet more for the sake of vanity?

On another note, Lawnmower's images 700kb+ really do slow things down.

Gaile has already stated PvE based items (armor, weapons) will not be sold in the store.

Naga The Apocalypse

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Diversionary Tactics [DT]

R/Me

12 Sep 2006 at 03:34 - 100

well i'd be down with some mursaat armour skins for casters and some jade armour skins for wars and rangers, in fact i've been hoping for that for sometime.

but paying anything over 30k for a pience of armour and materials is way too much for any player that has a life elsewere.

i'd be down for a new god relm too, Fow and UW lost their touch a long time ago.

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

12 Sep 2006 at 05:38 - 101

Do you remember that pre-searing NPC guy that sends you into hie egg-mine along with a peasant? Well, those of you who do - that guy is wearing a really nice set of armor. Those of you don't - go check him out. I love that armor. And you all know that helmet icon on the login screen. Why isn't it available anywhere in the game? My warrior has 15k gladiator from Grotto, but she doesn't have a helm of the same set. I mean, it's like 16 months into the game and no one bothered to give gladiators a helm. WTF?

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/R

12 Sep 2006 at 08:35 - 102

The thing about it, that for me...

I havent collected even 1/2 of alll the skills for my characters, or did the bonus on even 1/4 of all the missions or explored anything in particular.

I love my character more than I love my real life self. thats why I think, more customization options is so important for him. To me, my character is everything. I dont care about being uber 1337 or winning or stuff like that.

Blackhawk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/

12 Sep 2006 at 08:57 - 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Admins Bane

That is the typical uneducated reply from someone who is either new or just plain ignorant.

No it's actually a reply from someone who's more impressed by a players skill, rather than what they're wearing, and I suppose getting 120 Ectos and 120 Shards doesn't involve a lot of farming or buying gold either as far as your concerned.

sakura75

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Netherlands

Intensive Care Unit [ICU]

12 Sep 2006 at 09:10 - 104

/NOT SIGNED

Instead of making more expensive armor I suggest Anet/NCSoft should work on something else. Why not making several different sets of 15k armor or a UW armor set that is as expensive as FoW armor set? Or making a contest of armor designing? Or why not making something like a "wardrobe" for each character? My mesmer has 5 sets or armor and 7 headpieces so my inventory is full.

Brustow

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Beer me!

Hey Look Over There [gAnK]

Mo/

12 Sep 2006 at 09:45 - 105

/notsigned

grind is bad. Farming is boring. I'm all for more stuff and diversity but not having to spend 300 hours just to get it. Let's step out of the typical RPG design, it's time to think of more creative ideas to recieving unique armor/loot/etc. Someone suggested questing. Let's just imagine that it's not a typical fedex quest but something more indepth and more fun. Don't know about you but doesn't that sound more interesting than killing the same monsters over and over and over again?

vermeer

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Totems of Yog-Sothoth

12 Sep 2006 at 11:05 - 106

im a designer of sorts, and i have the most fun i think making my characters look wierd. its what i do for kicks, but,, i cant imagine that this guys post wasnt pure sarcasm. wasnt it? i mean, besides the angel wing thing (which i figured would be the paragon fissure armor) it sounded funny and smart and purely rhetorical. maybe im wrong

if its so rare that no one could get it,, then no one would have it,, well thats funny,, he was making a funny....

ps. i am the moon master, no one ever makes it to level 3

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

12 Sep 2006 at 13:20 - 107

Quote:

Originally Posted by cataphract

Do you remember that pre-searing NPC guy that sends you into hie egg-mine along with a peasant? Well, those of you who do - that guy is wearing a really nice set of armor. Those of you don't - go check him out. I love that armor. And you all know that helmet icon on the login screen. Why isn't it available anywhere in the game? My warrior has 15k gladiator from Grotto, but she doesn't have a helm of the same set. I mean, it's like 16 months into the game and no one bothered to give gladiators a helm. WTF?

There's a 15k glad helm in the artbooks but it was never added to the game.

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

12 Sep 2006 at 14:40 - 108

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawnmower

I love my character more than I love my real life self.

You should go see a professional.

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

12 Sep 2006 at 14:58 - 109

lol at the post above.

but yeah I think 30k armor would be fine.. not insane with ectos ect. But even more so I'm VERY much into the idea of armor or other types of rewards for doing certain quests. Whether you get a minipet, weapon, armor, a special mask, stuff like that.

I also like the idea of more themed armor... i'd like to dress up like Brotherhood member or a tengu inspired outfit ect. That would be fun and add more variety as well.

A Ranger with a Black Moa outfit.. black feathers and spiked collar .. it'd be fun

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/R

12 Sep 2006 at 15:58 - 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

There's a 15k glad helm in the artbooks but it was never added to the game.

do you got any pics of it?

Im curious to see, how it looks like?

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

12 Sep 2006 at 16:49 - 111

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawnmower

do you got any pics of it?

Im curious to see, how it looks like?

It looks like this:

Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

12 Sep 2006 at 18:05 - 112

/not signed

Basically you are saying you have no reason to play this game past PvE, so you need to farm monotonusly. If that's the case, Farm FoW armor and pull out different combinations of armors as several people stated before.

Raising armor price is just flat out retarded. Not because of elitism or having the economy bubble pop, but because it proves you don't want to do PvP or the optional dungeons at endgame but to grind on farming. If you want that, play WoW.

Gavin The Great

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Newcastle, England

Xen of Heroes

W/Mo

12 Sep 2006 at 18:36 - 113

I think that a 30k set would be cool. With normal crafting materials like the 15k kurzic or 15k luxon where its nothing extremely valuable, like ectos, to craft with, but the armor costs a lot of gold.
If there was a 30k set it would obviousley look cooler than the 1.5k set some how, like how the 15k kurz war set has pointy bits and a more defined look than the 1.5k kurz war, but there isnt a whole lot of difference.

Do I have a point or am I talking poo?

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

12 Sep 2006 at 18:44 - 114

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin The Great

like how the 15k kurz war set has pointy bits and a more defined look than the 1.5k kurz war, but there isnt a whole lot of difference.

I see a big difference in the 1.5k and the 15k kurzick.

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

12 Sep 2006 at 19:00 - 115

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackhawk

Wearing FoW armour doesn't make you a 1337 player by a long shot, just shows you either farm the crap out of the game or bought the gold for it off ebay

Wow you are sooo right, there are no other ways to make gold in Guild Wars. Running doesnt make any gold, neither does power trading, chest running is not profitable...

agk512

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

12 Sep 2006 at 20:24 - 116

guild wars was ment to destroy the grind and that is the reason i bought it. i love online rpgs but hate spending time grinding for like 2 hours to get 1 lvl up. ive bought one set of 15k armor for my warior and thats enough farming for me, and its only like 120k for materials and crafting fee. there is diversity in the game tho. if you see somebody with fow armor with a 60% explorers title then your just going to walk by and blow it off. but if you see a guy with 1.5k armor with a 100% explorer title then your going to see people suround this guy and talking to him like hes a god. same story with a guy with rank 13 in hoh. guildwars is a game made for skill not the equipment that you have.

DragoXHellfire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Luxcorp [JADE]

R/Mo

12 Sep 2006 at 21:09 - 117

Im not sure if the raising of the prises is a good idea but more choices of armor types for 15k and 1.5k and new FoW types just to change it up a little would be nice. im not saying we have to be like WoW.I remember back when lots of ppl had trouble affording 15ks sets and now all i see is clones of all sets of armor.In some Large towns you go to u will see atleast 3-5 ppl with the same armor.

Sable Phoenix

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

12 Sep 2006 at 21:35 - 118

Really bad idea. Really bad.

First off, there are already 100k armors in the game. Fissure armor can cost over a million gold for a set. Kurzick 15k sets can reach 150k for the entire set with all the amber and rare materials. Kurzick 15k is about the maximum a casual player can reasonably afford.

The armor system is fine as it is.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

12 Sep 2006 at 22:57 - 119

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Highwind

/not signed

Basically you are saying you have no reason to play this game past PvE, so you need to farm monotonusly. If that's the case, Farm FoW armor and pull out different combinations of armors as several people stated before.

Raising armor price is just flat out retarded. Not because of elitism or having the economy bubble pop, but because it proves you don't want to do PvP or the optional dungeons at endgame but to grind on farming. If you want that, play WoW.

hmm a few points

Since when has playing PvP been mandatory? Never
Playing endgame content is farming...if all you do is go kill shit and sell the drops
Ppl who like to farm should go play WoW? with attitude like that its no wonder WoW converts end up going back..

Im thinking you must be a PvPer as someone who PvE's wouldnt make such a dumb comment

Rogmar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

W/

12 Sep 2006 at 23:02 - 120

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glad Baasje

/signed

Filling the gap between 15k and Fow armor is actually a good idea

There is no gap
15k + Ecto is still 15k + Materials
Value of materials is determined by player base, therefore farming these materials can still cost you the same as 15k armor if you don't want to buy it
A flat rate that is higher than 15k is not between 15k and FoW...