i got 2 shields today in about 25 runs so i am satisfied =). now what to do with the other shield =)
btw e/a's do it just fine =)
Solo Green Farming For >_> Sins
pegasux
Aeon_Enceladus
Pure genius, mate 
Great job.
Is the run to the Warrior's Construct hard? Does seem a little hard with so much afflicted and just Dash and Dark Escape :/ Atm, for weapons, I'm using a Totem Axe and Earth Scroll..will that work as well as a Kephet's?
Also, do you think this build could solo Jayne Forestlight for her hammer Vera?
Thanks for your time
Great job.Is the run to the Warrior's Construct hard? Does seem a little hard with so much afflicted and just Dash and Dark Escape :/ Atm, for weapons, I'm using a Totem Axe and Earth Scroll..will that work as well as a Kephet's?
Also, do you think this build could solo Jayne Forestlight for her hammer Vera?
Thanks for your time
Ogel
Oh. My. GOD.
My Assassin just got SO happy.
My Assassin just got SO happy.
Evilsod
Hehe i started on the Kaolins earlier today too. First kill got me a Domination Staff... not bad really. Decided to do it as E/A because of the more powerful Sliver.
The problem is i can't seem to repeat it all that well. Sliver Armour ALWAYS targets the Shiro'ken Elementalists first (someone said earlier they couldn't seem to hit it, the eles damage numbers are extremely high up so you couldn't see it). After that it always goes for the Afflicted Warriors/Rangers... I could stop the Rangers charging in by using a Kekphets instead of my Totem Axe, but the Sliver Armour seems to struggle to finish them off. Specially with Ritualist ressing everything.
I might need to use A/E though for the other bosses, too many mobs around them so Shadow Form would run out.
@Aeon, Jayne can indeed be soloed. Aftershock/Gale/Shock work fine. Can be done in the same run as the Scar Eater.
The problem is i can't seem to repeat it all that well. Sliver Armour ALWAYS targets the Shiro'ken Elementalists first (someone said earlier they couldn't seem to hit it, the eles damage numbers are extremely high up so you couldn't see it). After that it always goes for the Afflicted Warriors/Rangers... I could stop the Rangers charging in by using a Kekphets instead of my Totem Axe, but the Sliver Armour seems to struggle to finish them off. Specially with Ritualist ressing everything.
I might need to use A/E though for the other bosses, too many mobs around them so Shadow Form would run out.
@Aeon, Jayne can indeed be soloed. Aftershock/Gale/Shock work fine. Can be done in the same run as the Scar Eater.
CalypsoX
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@CalypsoX: how do you get to the necro construct alive? I die by passing the elementalist construct :/
Oh, I completely forgot about the ele one (and the ranger one too :P). In any case, the the order I usually do this is Ele, Necro, Mesmer, Warrior (pathing wise). Save the monk construct for very last since its the closest and also pretty easy.
1) The path you want to take is Monk (dont kill it yet, because its easy even with 60 dp), then after, turn left up the ramp toward the mesmer construct, then left again, and to the right to lead you to the ele construct (use shadow form to run past the 2 afflicted groups). Ele is the easiest since the enemies are stationary for whatever reason. The only thing is that you must have as little dp as possible as lightning touch goes through shadow form. Use dark escape also to halve the damage.
2) To get to the necro construct, run through the mesmer construct mob (with shadow form up) in the center floor, then up and to the left. You should see the necro construct, but there is a mob blocking your path. This is where the extra seconds in shadow form matter. Put it up, speed boost through that mob, then deaths charge to the construct. Two other mobs will then collapse on you, which will only add to your damage. This is rated second easiest since the mobs are quite spread out, so the chances of sliver armor hitting correctly are very good (hasn't failed once for me yet). Note, however, that if you fail to kill the construct after the 2 other mobs move in, then I doubt it'll be possible for you to try again the second time.
3) Next up is the Mesmer construct. I had a lot of trouble with this since sliver armor almost never targets the construct for some reason. Some things I found that helped are: instead of deaths charging in, use a speed boost to run up next to it, and also, try to approach the construct when it separates from its group, rather than going in when they're all bunched up. This one's basically a toss up. You basically have to keep trying until it hits the right one.
4) After the mesmer, go the warrior by going the same way towards the necro construct, but instead of going left, turn to the right down the long hallway. There should be quite a distance between you and the construct, and 2 mobs in the way. Once again, a longer shadow form helps. Speed boost toward the construct, then deaths charge. This one is easier than the mesmer because the warrior construct will be on top of you anyway because its melee. Rust is not necessary since the damage will significantly overpower its heal sig. Sometimes, sliver armor will target an afflicted first, but after it died, it targeted the construct next, and I was still able to take it down.
I hope that was (somewhat) helpful. If not, I'll post some screenshots to guide it along.
1) The path you want to take is Monk (dont kill it yet, because its easy even with 60 dp), then after, turn left up the ramp toward the mesmer construct, then left again, and to the right to lead you to the ele construct (use shadow form to run past the 2 afflicted groups). Ele is the easiest since the enemies are stationary for whatever reason. The only thing is that you must have as little dp as possible as lightning touch goes through shadow form. Use dark escape also to halve the damage.
2) To get to the necro construct, run through the mesmer construct mob (with shadow form up) in the center floor, then up and to the left. You should see the necro construct, but there is a mob blocking your path. This is where the extra seconds in shadow form matter. Put it up, speed boost through that mob, then deaths charge to the construct. Two other mobs will then collapse on you, which will only add to your damage. This is rated second easiest since the mobs are quite spread out, so the chances of sliver armor hitting correctly are very good (hasn't failed once for me yet). Note, however, that if you fail to kill the construct after the 2 other mobs move in, then I doubt it'll be possible for you to try again the second time.
3) Next up is the Mesmer construct. I had a lot of trouble with this since sliver armor almost never targets the construct for some reason. Some things I found that helped are: instead of deaths charging in, use a speed boost to run up next to it, and also, try to approach the construct when it separates from its group, rather than going in when they're all bunched up. This one's basically a toss up. You basically have to keep trying until it hits the right one.
4) After the mesmer, go the warrior by going the same way towards the necro construct, but instead of going left, turn to the right down the long hallway. There should be quite a distance between you and the construct, and 2 mobs in the way. Once again, a longer shadow form helps. Speed boost toward the construct, then deaths charge. This one is easier than the mesmer because the warrior construct will be on top of you anyway because its melee. Rust is not necessary since the damage will significantly overpower its heal sig. Sometimes, sliver armor will target an afflicted first, but after it died, it targeted the construct next, and I was still able to take it down.
I hope that was (somewhat) helpful. If not, I'll post some screenshots to guide it along.
Evilsod
The Warrior Construct can easily be done with E/A if you go by hte same route Calypso said. Run past hte first group using Dark Escape, then use Shadow Form, then hit Deaths Charge to leap over the gap straight to him. Shadow Refuge works well because it can stop the afflicted soul explosions killing you.
So far i've had 3 Domination Staffs and 1 Prot Staff (only killed it twice though).
Farming the Mesmer Construct is much easier with E/A. Unlike the other Kaolins the need for a longer Shadow Form isn't there (except all 3 times its dropped i've had to run back after dieing). Sliver Armour tears any targets before the Construct apart and can usually finish off the Mesmer before if runs out.
So far i've had 3 Domination Staffs and 1 Prot Staff (only killed it twice though).
Farming the Mesmer Construct is much easier with E/A. Unlike the other Kaolins the need for a longer Shadow Form isn't there (except all 3 times its dropped i've had to run back after dieing). Sliver Armour tears any targets before the Construct apart and can usually finish off the Mesmer before if runs out.
Aeon_Enceladus
But when playing an A/E, how is the Kaolin Blade run harder? (besides weaker Silver Armor) 
Scott
hm, cant do the ele construct. either the second afflicted group will follow me or the construct group attacks me. Where do you take a rest before attacking the ele construct?
CalypsoX
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hm, cant do the ele construct. either the second afflicted group will follow me or the construct group attacks me. Where do you take a rest before attacking the ele construct?
When going down the ramp toward the ele construct, hug the right wall as close as possible. You should barely avoid aggro. On the off chance you can't avoid them, back out to the ramp past the first group. Assuming an assassin primary, dash+dark escape lets you run past that group and straight to the construct (via death charge), and still gives you enough time for sliver armor to do its thing.
Aeon_Enceladus
For those of you interested, this build *might* be able to take Jayne Forestlight.
The problem is that Silver Armor doesnt target her often : / Hoping someone can find a way around that. Make sure you get Shadow Form up before aggro, cause if they use Cry of Frustration, its gg. Hope others have better luck with this
kielus
ok, can someone tell me what's the difference in E/A and A/E ?? cause i've been thinking between these two to make.
A/E has longer shadow form so easier to get the group together E/A has longer sliver armor, and more dmg so less time to kill boss do any of these two combos have any BIG advantage in farming??
chessyang
Desires,
/bow Have to say is WOW..... thanks for the build. and the VIDEO!!! i'm still trying to figure it out. Just a small, very tiny request.... Could you list the main skill in your original post? or copy and past this? 1 Shadown form (E) 2 Glyph of Elemental Power 3 Sliver Armor 4 xxxxx 5 xxxxx 6 xxxxx 7 Dark escape 8 Dash
Desires
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ok, can someone tell me what's the difference in E/A and A/E ?? cause i've been thinking between these two to make.
A/E has longer shadow form so easier to get the group together E/A has longer sliver armor, and more dmg so less time to kill boss do any of these two combos have any BIG advantage in farming?? Well I perfer assassin mainly cause I am one and it gives quite a bit more time to get to boss and postion yourself ect. With Ele (no first hand exp) but it would probably be better at killing higher def bosses like rangers for example which this build has a hard time with due to the higher elemantal armor. Though odly enough darkroot seems to have either very high earth or general magic def as he only takes 16 damage from each hit(keep in mind hes a sin) Another point to make places with onis near by work VERY well with their fast attack and always double hit adds alot of dps.
pegasux
where are these constructs? are they the ones in the mission at sunjiang? if so how do you keep from having mehlo and other guy from dieing. thx
Aeon_Enceladus
@pegasusx: You can farm the constructs in Sunjiang Explorable (outside of Zin Ku Corridor)
Has anyone besides me tried Jayne yet? Her mob is huge, and seems like a perfect candidate..only problem is that silver armor rarely targets her 
SirShadowrunner
Nice clever build, and thx for sharing with us, very nice jesture, perfect timing to, I
have been using my Assassin heavily lately, I have good luck on necro and mesmer bosses, but the monk and warrior bosses are a little tougher. The Woespreader boss is cake, got two staffs this morning and then the anti-farm message came-up, I killed the Sunreach boss twice but no shield yet, also killed Kaolin and got his wand. much thx for fun..... -SirShadowrunner
pegasux
thx Aeon , i have killed jayne 2x so far but no vera. let her get to the outside of the group the aggro her. then as the group comes throw up your skills and she will be targeted. don't shadow step to her cause it won't work...at least not for me.
dejsav
there is a video or a guide for Sunreach farm please?
Evilsod
So far i've had 1 Shield from Sunreach. 4 Kaolin Domination Staffs. 1 Kaolin Protection Staff. 1 Scar Eater.
The Ranger boss just doesn't seem possible with either, its armour is just too strong. Elementalists Construct doesn't seem to like to die either. Might be because i usually go for it later on when i have dp so Mirror/Touch kill me  The necro is extremely easy. I'm not entirely sure why someone posted to say you can't kill it if the groups all move in, its the only time i've been able to. The groups are so tightly nit if the Construct wanders to the side nearest you you can Deaths Charge to it and get a pretty much guarantee a kill. The Warrior Construct seems to have problems with dieing... i use Rust primarily for him. But either Sliver doesn't target him first or there just isn't enough agro to kill him. Monk is extremely easy... shadow form up the ramp, wait till the group to the right is nearest him and bow lure the group to the left before Shadow Forming. Plenty of damage. I've only killed Jayne 3 times but so far i've never had any problems. Its never targetted another enemy. So far thats only happened with Constructs and Sunreach.
Ic Zero
when farming sunreach i always seem to trigger trap and get cripple, bleeding then touch to death by wallows
dejsav
I can't kill Sunreach, I always die
help please
Desires
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when farming sunreach i always seem to trigger trap and get cripple, bleeding then touch to death by wallows
I get touched by wallows to but its usally surviable. and in regards to trap some times it cna't be helped but with practice you learn where it normaly is and rember always shadow step to the warden of wind so the others cna't knock you down as seen in video.
pegasux
i nvr see a warden of winds there to ss to...only the forest and the ranger guys =(. so i have to go through the direct path and miss out on the assassin boss.
just curious...what are you guys selling the shield for and how long does it take you?
Evilsod
Sunreach is easier as E/A imo. Length of Shadow Form makes no difference as he's practically in front of you. Also means its more doable with higher dp so you can kill off the Wallows first if you want.
The traps are extremely annoying though, but they don't compare with Shiro'ken Elementalists.... they're frigging relentless!!
pegasux
evilsod,
i wish i could just get to the dang monk construct withough dying =(. i have problems getting past the first group without getting hexed and burned =(. how are you getting to him with no degen? Scott
thx calypsoX, ele construct works fine now
Originally Posted by pegasux
Quote: evilsod,
i wish i could just get to the dang monk construct withough dying =(. i have problems getting past the first group without getting hexed and burned =(. how are you getting to him with no degen? run through the first group, then you come to the first group of afflicted, there you use shadow form and dark escape to run down to the monk construct BUT NOT INTO IT. instead you run up the next ramp (to your right) to have a rest there. from there you can start your attack for the monk construct. CalypsoX
The VERY first group you will encounter are amfah. These guys can get pretty annoying, especially the rangers trapping everywhere, and the degen owning you when you're heavily dp'ed. What I like to do is throw up shadow form, lead them to the first group of afflicted/shiroken, then deaths charge/dark escape away. It helps save some annoyances later on.
And as for running through afflicted, as scott said, shadow form is your friend. @Evilsod - I suspect your experiences are different than mine just due to the sometimes random targeting of sliver armor. I've had it attack the boss, then once mobs collapse in, suddenly switch to an afflicted, then a shiroken, etc. etc.. In my experience, it seems that once sliver armor picks a target, it stays on that target no matter how many times it and/or you die. For example, I go in the mesmer construct group, target the construct, then sliver armor targets afflicted (warriors or sins) and kills them. I die, rits rez the afflicted. I go back in, I target the construct again, and sliver armor decides to attack the warriors or sins again (are they same ones, I can't tell exactly, but it happens so many times its more than just a coicidence I think).
pegasux
thx scott and calypsox =) i'll give it a shot now, btw what are you guys getting for the shield?
Evilsod
Hehe, i've been luring them down into the Shiro'kens too. Those trappers get extremely annoying.
It does indeed seem that once its target has been chosen nothing will make it change its mind. I've been in a complete deadlock with the Mesmer Construct sometimes. Sliver Armour always targetted the Afflicted Assassin first... killed it... then went to work on the Mesmer Construct. At 10% health left they'd res the frigging Assassin and it'd go back to attacking it! Usually meaning the Mesmer survived till the end of Sliver and i'd have to run off. After doing this for the 5th time in a row i got bored, why the hell can't monsters get death penalty! Its extremely annoying, it seems to have something against Spirits too, whenever 1 has been nearby its always targetted it above everything else. For the shield i got 50k. I had interest in the first 20 seconds of trying to sell it. 1 said it was the wrong req the other was a moron trying to scam me offering gold not plat. Didn't seem to take too long to finda buyer though, just have to be in the right place. I got 60k for 1 of my 4 Kaolin Domination Staffs in 5 seconds of trying (2 i've sold to guildies for 25k the other i'm working on).
dejsav
wardens always knock me down and I can't arrive to Sunreach
where must I go?
Desires
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wardens always knock me down and I can't arrive to Sunreach
where must I go? Thats why you bring death charge.
pegasux
wow guess they go for a lot more on the us servers...tried selling for 50k on the euro and didn't get a single bite...lowere to 45 and only got people with counter offers of 30k...finally sold 4 at 40k.
Evilsod
Pegasux, i think you need to check my location if that was directed at me
The other way to get past hte wardens is to stop when they get close, usually making em waste it. Deaths Charge would be better for it though.
dejsav
I need to spawn also assassin boss?
Desires
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I need to spawn also assassin boss?
It helps. Going from the far side has a much better chance I usaly only die in 1in 10-20 cause sometimes it jsut way to hard to target him.
dejsav
DROPPED! YES!
thank you all ^^ moenbase
Perhaps we can make a nice list of bosses ya can farm with it.
And prefered skillset. Makes it a lot easier navagating this thread :} Also, Warrior Warden seems to be a problem still, he keeps getting healed by some ritualist bloke. :/ I find it hardest at him to get Sliver Armor target it right. Only been able to kill him once in about 6 runs. Gonna try adding Rust, perhaps that helps a bit.
Evilsod
Christ the Mesmer Construct must have a thing for me. Since i began farming with this build about 2/3 days ago i've had a grand total of 1 Protection Staff, 1 Accursed Staff, 7 Domination Staffs. I've practically given up on the Ele Construct and Warrior Constructs. The Ele is just awkward and the Warrior just won't die often enough.
But if anyone does happen to get a Kaolin Blade, i want it! CalypsoX
Yea, I made a suggestion earlier about making a hit list. Since I stumpled upon list, I have a huge laundry list of bosses I've tried, most of whom aren't listed anywhere in this forum because they either can't be separated or their group is too hard. Atm though, it seems like this thread is mostly about sunreach and kaolin farming.
Since it's Desires' thread and build, I'll leave it up to him what to do. If he's willing to setup the list on the first post, that's fine. Otherwise, I'd be more than happy to start a fresh thread with a list and guidelines for each one.
dejsav
which skills you use for mesmer and monk construct?
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