Solo Green Farming For >_> Sins

Not sure I understand this statement. If you're referring to dp, its largely irrelevant to this build. If you're referring to random targetting, it will eventually target the boss once some of the melee are killed off (and as far as I know, no other boss farming spots have rits that rez). And if you're referring to the fact that the constructs happen to be near each other, that's the case for the majority of bosses in factions - siska, ssun, and ssyn are all near the same area in archipelagos, while Cho and Rien are both in shenzun tunnels. Well it meant both... Having to restart the run because some bosses you just can't flee from, specially wardens, before Shadow Form wears off so you die. And having to zone back. Killing off the melee is all good... but then what do you use to power Sliver Armour? If it kills off half the melee targets there before finally going after your boss not only have you lost considerable firepower, which healing can very easily outdo but you've lost alot of time you could've spent simply farming something more stable.

I have absolutely no idea about Sliver Armours targetting. For some reason yesterday it utterly despised Afflicted/Shiro'ken Assassins. It also seems to target Fungal Wallows instantly and sometimes Wardens. But what about the Scar Eater? I've lured 2 groups along with the boss group many times and never had it target anything but the boss. Perhaps its just Undergrowth/Kirins... but its never targetted them over the boss.

It could well be it targets the highest level enemy first... which would explain the tendency to attack lvl28 Shiro'kens over lvl24 Bosses... but that doesn't always stand true.


Whats the problem with E/A? 3/4 of the bosses listed have absolutely no groups before them or the groups don't deal enough damage to warrent an early Shadow Form. Mesmer Construct? This boss can be on the edge of your agro before needing to cast Shadow Form. Monk Construct, same again. Scar Eater, again. Jayne? Sunreach? And probably many more. Its only for bosses like the Warrior Construct that are very difficult to reach due to mobs beforehand that can easily kill you. The bonus to A/E though is that when Sliver Armour wears off on most of htese bosses you can just turn around and run off with Dark Escape and rest up for another try.

My problem with a Necro Kaolin is that i never with himself that silver armor attack to boss yeah thats the main problem with SLIVER ( ) armor. But when you use shadow step it will trigger at the necro construct at least at the second time (so first a melee, but then the construct). Are you sure you used Death's Charge?

Killing off the melee is all good... but then what do you use to power Sliver Armour? Well, here's the good news.
1) Anything that attacks you triggers sliver armor - this includes spirits and even random uncharmed pets that happen to want to attack you for whatever reason (yes, it does happen).
2) Sliver armor is triggered by attacks AND spells targetting you.
3) There's a lot of flexibility with the build because the only really must have skills are shadow form and sliver. For example, I've killed Bahnba Shockfoot, Lukrker Foulfist, Sourbeak Rotshell, even though their group consists only of a max of 4 enemies (minus boss) total. Here's an example also where Ele primary is imporant, since you need the stronger sliver armor and damage spells.
My build is:
Shadow Form
Sliver Armor
Glyph of Elemental Power
Deaths Charge
Tenai Crystals
Obsidian Flame
Dark Escape
Dash
The boss's group is random - mix of rangers, rits, and warriors. Many times I kill off the warriors first, but I'm still able to take the boss down because the rits drop attacking spirits and I spam my damage spells whenever they come up. You can probably drop dash and put in another damage spell too (crystal wave).

3) Here's an example also where Ele primary is imporant, since you need the stronger sliver armor and damage spells. Problem what I see with E as a primairy is that Sliver doesn't really add much time duration, only 1 (?) second more. Perhaps the damage increases more, haven't checked on that.
Also, Shadow Form is only 17 seconds I think?


But I'll have to try this tomorrow then. Made an E/A though, but when I saw the spells i wasn't really that confident in the build. Perhaps it does work out nicely though.
If the Kirin in the same area as Sourbeak needs really all the mobs in order to finish him off. I've tried it numberous times without the other (3-4) Kirin close to the group, but failed it everytime since it doesn't do enough damage.
So I wonder how I can kill Sourbeak then since he's in a much much smaller group.
But then again, I haven't tried, perhaps he has a weak against Earth.

How do you do Bhanba btw since he uses a shockwave that causes instant death. Goes right through Shadow Form.

Problem what I see with E as a primairy is that Sliver doesn't really add much time duration, only 1 (?) second more. Perhaps the damage increases more, haven't checked on that.
Also, Shadow Form is only 17 seconds I think?


But I'll have to try this tomorrow then. Made an E/A though, but when I saw the spells i wasn't really that confident in the build. Perhaps it does work out nicely though.
If the Kirin in the same area as Sourbeak needs really all the mobs in order to finish him off. I've tried it numberous times without the other (3-4) Kirin close to the group, but failed it everytime since it doesn't do enough damage.
So I wonder how I can kill Sourbeak then since he's in a much much smaller group.
But then again, I haven't tried, perhaps he has a weak against Earth.

How do you do Bhanba btw since he uses a shockwave that causes instant death. Goes right through Shadow Form. The damage is very significant because each time sliver armor hits, it does an additional 8 damage (at 14 earth for a sin which is 33 compared to 18 earth for elementalist which is 41), which really adds up since it's always hitting the same target. Dark escape halves the damage from shockwave, but it will still kill you if you have more than 40% dp (approximately). Do not get poisoned though by the traps. Read my post again, because you're in a smaller mob, you utilize your other damage spells to do the job. During the duration of sliver or shadow, whichever is shorter, you can get off 1 tenai/crystal (due to the recharge) and 2 obsidian flames (one of which can be glyphed). Add in another crystal wave, and you're looking at close to 500 additional armor ignoring damage.

Well, here's the good news.
1) Anything that attacks you triggers sliver armor - this includes spirits and even random uncharmed pets that happen to want to attack you for whatever reason (yes, it does happen).
2) Sliver armor is triggered by attacks AND spells targetting you.
3) There's a lot of flexibility with the build because the only really must have skills are shadow form and sliver. For example, I've killed Bahnba Shockfoot, Lukrker Foulfist, Sourbeak Rotshell, even though their group consists only of a max of 4 enemies (minus boss) total. I'm not stupid. I know what Sliver Armour activates off. But wands do bugger all, spells also aren't repeatadly cast 'that' often. A ranger attacks 2s-2.8s. A wand is slow, dunno the time. A melee sword warrior is 1.3s, assassins are 1.3/0.65s. The damage coming off those is significantly greater than the casters. Not to mention half of them STOP attacking to heal your target.

Time to make an assassin ^.^

Not looking forward of going through the campaign though. Hmm... I'm not sure I would make one if I didn't have one already. As you've mentioned, getting through the campaign is a chore with a sin. Also, think of the countless hordes of sins that are farming these greens into the dirt. Eventually you'll be able to buy at rock-bottom prices.

I've got a lowbie sin, but the thought of going through this content again is so uninspiring that I think I'll wait.

The only real reason to go through with a sin now would be so that it's ready an waiting for farming in Nightfall.

Just my $0.02

Hmm... I'm not sure I would make one if I didn't have one already. As you've mentioned, getting through the campaign is a chore with a sin. Also, think of the countless hordes of sins that are farming these greens into the dirt. Eventually you'll be able to buy at rock-bottom prices.

I've got a lowbie sin, but the thought of going through this content again is so uninspiring that I think I'll wait.

The only real reason to go through with a sin now would be so that it's ready an waiting for farming in Nightfall.

Just my $0.02 Thats why I released the build actaully. If your willing to take a sin through the campain its not like makeing a 55 monk for underworld then you earned it lol. Also with how prices are already slowly lowering on things like sunreach it might not be worth the time for some people to make one.

Nor did I say you were. My main point is that sliver armor IS NOT your only means of killing something. This whole conversation got started because you claimed it was pointless to go farm anything else, and your reasoning was monetary based. As I have said and someone else, not everyone goes boss hunting just to get rich, and the flexibility of this build allows someone to tackle almost any kind of boss (minus rangers) where there are mobs nearby, and that even a small mob of 3 or 4 enemies is still workable. It still has its limits. With 3 to 4 enemies in a mob it may be workable... but the chances are its easier to do with a million other farming builds too. Fair enough people like to make a complete list... but the majority of people who have Assassins will have another character capable of the solo. Even a touch ranger is flexible in the sense only 3 skills are set in stone (and even then 1 can be altered on rare occasions). Imo if you can kill it with 1 character thats all that really matters. The only exceptions really would be bosses like Sskai who the fastest (warrior) farm is very high risk, so others are wanted.

Meh, i've been doing fine farming Kaolins using nothing but Sliver for damage. Unless Rust counts for the Warrior Its a shame i can't go /R and bring Frozen Soil...

Well, now I realize why I was sucking so bad, i was relying way to heavily on sliver armor to do my damage, and only bringing like aftershock as another attack skill.

The thing that sucks about this build, for me, is that the boss I most want to farm does aoe nontargetted attacks, so it slides under shadow form. Oh well...Great build for the bosses it works on, I just may never get that offhand.... Use dark escape to halve damage. Use earth magic armor buffs. Use shadow refuge and/or aura of restoration. Be creative. Btw, which boss are you referring to?