Solo Green Farming For >_> Sins

Duncan Idaho

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

Jane Forestlight is farmable, provding you get extra damage spells (obsi flame ie)

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Desires
DA removes on critical hits. Shadow for makes all attacks miss ;p /doh

Why use Kinetic Armour to boost AL when nothing can actually hit you?

I had no trouble farming Jayne using Shock/Gale/Aftershock...

Rah Balder

Rah Balder

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

R/W

Shock/Gale works better on Monk bosses. Do i hav to say why?

AcidDog

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

For me the key when farming Sunreach is actually Falaharn...

mull that over for a bit.

Calvein

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

France \o/

A/

I'll make a video of Sunreach when I'll have my PC :d

Silvergun Superman

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

This build is awesome. So far I've been practicing about 3hrs now and I finally got the hang of it. SOH is a life saver! I killed Sunreach a few times so far but no shield drop yet. Here's my setup:

Earth - 12
Water - 3
Shadow Arts - 16

1 Shadow Form
2 Glyph of Elemental Power
3 Silver Armor
4 Rust
5 Crystal Wave
6 Death's Charge
7 Dark escape
8 Shadow of Haste

Thanks Desires

Gor Peace

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Portugal

R/

Guys...you must forgive me, but I haven't checked all threads so I don't know if you already talk about this subject.

I was wondering if this build works as a runner.


One more thing. Tell me if I am correct:

- Traps & Knockdown's are the obstacles of this build right?

jtchans

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvergun Superman
This build is awesome. So far I've been practicing about 3hrs now and I finally got the hang of it. SOH is a life saver! I killed Sunreach a few times so far but no shield drop yet. Here's my setup:

Earth - 12
Water - 3
Shadow Arts - 16

1 Shadow Form
2 Glyph of Elemental Power
3 Silver Armor
4 Rust
5 Crystal Wave
6 Death's Charge
7 Dark escape
8 Shadow of Haste

Thanks Desires Thats what I run and it works great if you cant kill sunreach activate Dark Escape and shadowstep back to a safe spot and try again.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gor Peace
Guys...you must forgive me, but I haven't checked all threads so I don't know if you already talk about this subject.

I was wondering if this build works as a runner.


One more thing. Tell me if I am correct:

- Traps & Knockdown's are the obstacles of this build right? No this build doesn't work as a runner.

A/Me echo Shadow Form does though. I ran myself to Droknars as an A/W w/ Charge then around the rest of the Southern Shiverpeaks as an A/Me, the only part that makes me insult my monitor are the f***ing Azure Shadows and there f***ing Signet of f***ing Judgement! Luckily if you survive to the end of the groups Illusion of Weakness normally saves your ass when Shadow Form runs out if you have Dark Escape up.

I don't see the need for Shadow of Haste as an A/E in the majority of groups. Most bosses you can either kill or have enough time left on Shadow Form to just run off using Dark Escape. Its only bosses like Sunreach and Warrior Construct that you have pretty much 0 chance of escape. As E/A though Shadow of Haste is awesome... was giving Kaolins a go earlier and its great to be able to attempt bosses then suddenly vanish and appear in safety way back since the length Shadow and Sliver ar so similar.

DreadZero

DreadZero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Ummm how do you actually get down to the constructs? The Am fah always kill me. They usually follow me, place degen on me, and use vampiric skills on me (barbed signent) and end up killing me before i get passed the first group...

feelthafire

feelthafire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

德国 , GERMANY

三个中国

E/A

use shadow refuge then dc on a enemy then run with dash and dark escape till they dont follow u

D Fault

D Fault

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Black Rose Gaming [BR]

Either dark escape past the am fah being careful not to set off spike traps, regen and continue or you can lure them into the 1st afflicted group.

Silvergun Superman

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

Yes! Finally the shield dropped for me. After like so many runs

Gor Peace

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Portugal

R/

Guys. Everything seems to work with my elementalist. I got the right skills and the right equipment but...I'm still pissed with this sliver armor...

When I dc to Necro Construct sliver armor hits him for a while but when the afflicted warriors and rangers get close to me the sliver armor damage stop hitting the Construct and hit another monsters arround.

I've read a thread on this post (somewhere) that 1 guy was saying that sliver armor triggers in diagonal direction. I was wonder if you can tell me if this is true, how it works and if there is any solution to trigger sliver armor only for bosses.

shmek

shmek

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
Ha, this is so gonna drop Sunreach prices. Only if people are morons.. which usually they are when items come easily to them

Silvergun Superman

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by jtchans
Thats what I run and it works great if you cant kill sunreach activate Dark Escape and shadowstep back to a safe spot and try again. Yeah, exactly. In two days, I've gotten 4 shields, not bad. I also use this build to farm Scar Eater except I bring Shadow Refuge instead of Rust. I aggro all the groups close and shadow step to him, he's dead in no time; less than 30secs.

Sainor

Sainor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

MB some1 would post a list of bosses farmable with this bild?
PS. Tried on Ssesk - got 2 Woe Spreaders.

ph0bolus

ph0bolus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

TN

W/Mo

can kill shreader with this build...but i think his daggers are unwanted..

dr_k

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

Nightshift Ressurection

E/A

thanks for that build, my ele loves it

so far she killed 7 bosses and she can't wait to get her hands on constructs btw: after what mission/quest opens the gate to the constructs? closed gates are the true evil of factions...

and that's her
http://doktorka.ffvse.cz/newz/GW/eriel_sin.html

SluggyTheZealot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Construct assassinating with this is a lot of fun. Nice build desires, you're so e-famous now

Gor Peace

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Portugal

R/

Hello again guys,

I'm still waiting for an answer to my question about sliver armor. Read my message above.

One more thing:

what do you guys think it's the best armor combination for this farm? I am thinking in kurzick armor (nice look ), but I've noticed that the armor set named 'infiltrator's armor', which have the following bonus - +15 Armor (vs. Piercing damage ), Reduces Crippled duration on you by 20% - has no longer the 'Reduces Poison duration on you by 20%'.

All this blablabla to say that wiki is not updated, look by yourself:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Assassin_armor


Was this nerfed? Anyway...I was thinking in the 'Infiltrator's Armor' to prevent any trouble with traps...but once you got crippled by one it's better to restart the run...

So do you guys agree with me that 'Infiltrator' it's useless for this farm?

Hmmm....since the energy bonus from the sword/totem axe and the earth focus/galigord's stone scroll is enough (I assume it's enough, even with shock causing you exaustion), 'Shrouded Armor' is also useless...

Then...it seems to me the best option to buy 'Valkyrie's Armor' which gives +35 health. Maybe it can helps against a wicked degen caused by elementalists constructs...but probably, it won't be enough. So...

All crappy armors?

Bloodied Blade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

...you really have no idea whatsoever what Shadow Form does, do you?

Watch the vid and tell me if you see him get hit. Then decide if armor is important.

Shadow Form makes all attacks against you miss and all spells fail.

Gor Peace

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Portugal

R/

oh dear...I'm not stupid. I can read you know?

'For 5...17 seconds, all hostile Spells that target you fail and all attacks against you miss. When Shadow Form ends, lose all but 5...41 Health. '

Oh! Amazing...I can read -.-


Dude ofc I knew that. I know it works with any armor...even naked, but I like to cast Shadow Form when already aggroed the mobs. I always let my life drop to 150/200hp, then I cast it [not if any interrupters, mesmers etc.]. I'm sure that +35 hp could do 1 second difference...depends where you are farming I guess. 35 hp would take 0,5 seconds to disappear from my health bar in constructs farm and since afflicted mesmers can interrupt me, maybe isn't too smart to tank before cast Shadow Form.

Apologies if my english it's not easy to understand.

Bloodied Blade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

If you're casting after aggroing then I would go for +hp, since the other damage reductions are all highly situational. Constructs are going to kill you regardless of what you're wearing if shadow form isn't up...Contruct + mob just hits that hard. Your best option is to just shadow form and find a way to make it work. On most of them you just keep going until they eventually die. I usually die once on the necro and then can kill him and get out alive (first time SF/sliver armor usually ends before he dies, 2nd time the mob is HUGE and it's easy).

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

There is no reason at all to cast once you've started agro if your an assassin. Shadow Form lasts that fricking long the extra second you've gained (and 200 health you've lost) isn't profitable at all. Interrupts can surprise you... specially from Shiro'ken Necromancers, not to mention that you might get a Kitahs Burden on you. Its easier to just cast beforehand, even if you do check the spawns. If your down to 35 health your gonna die anyway, if you have more energy, you'll be thankful if you start getting DP.

Not like it matters... this farm is more efficient as an E/A using Shadow of Haste. More energy and more damage and if you really want +health armour then it doesn't matter in the slightest on your ele.

Dark Escape seems very inferior now. SoH can be used as a running skill much better since when you renew it you don't return to your original location (which i think is a bug tbh). Or you can simply use it to break agro once you get through then cancel it with Dash and walk off once they return to normal.

I'm not entirely sure what Elementalists Construct you've been fighting... the one i've fought has no method of Degen at all. It does have 2 skills that bypass Sliver Armour... but its not worth the effort imo. Shiro'ken Elementalists have plenty of degen (9 second burning ftl) but if your down to 35 health... again... your pretty much screwed anyway.

darknesstears

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

sorrow's might

Rt/N

Anyone here know where the collector for a +30 health +1 earth magic 20% is?
thx

dr_k

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

Nightshift Ressurection

E/A

there are two collectors for this focus actually

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Plague_Idol
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Stone_Horn

plague idols are however a lot easier to collect

Desires

Desires

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

A/

Well I still just use my refuge ;p. But anyways I may be posting a new video eventualy not as much into farming with this as before but been recording a few recent runs to some of the other places and might exand on things like sunreach in it due to the pms I'm still getting... We'll see starting classes and stuff this week so may be a little while.

darknesstears

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

sorrow's might

Rt/N

After few tries at sunreach i noticed that my sliver armor never targets him
am i doing something wrong?
Also Song of the mists is killing me during kaolin farm :s
i need help lol

Khz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Where can i find that warrior boss that is at the end of video (not sunreach) and what does he drop ? thanks

ectospasm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

this build is totally pathetic for an E/A
maybe its better for an A/E but so far its useless to me.

i fought maybe 4 bosses and they almost died, maybe 1/4 health left by the time shadow form ended & silver armor. only boss i killed was konru tainted stone. he didnt drop a green.

i have just the opposite. 16 earth & 12 arts. with a millus's pillar & razazans fervor+ a 25nrg scroll. 106dmg with tenais crystals & aftershock is 105 +76 kd dmg. plus ive used shock, etc. nadda. sux...

i shadow step in. hit sf, glyph, silv armor. aftershock, crystals. still isnt enough to kill the bosses. by the time i go thru this process SF & SA are running out. its a nice concept but really, it sucks. even with the 20% enchant its still not enough time to do anything significant. id like to try it with an assassin to see if the few extra seconds are significant. but i doubt it, cause with 12 earth its not enough damage output and i have 16 in earth as an ele. it should take down any boss with as much damage as im dealing. i give up. back to the old methods.

Vass

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

Maybe your problem is that you're shadow stepping in, ectoplasm. I've tried it as well but I usually end up losing a pack of bad guys that would otherwise be following me in when I get to the whatever boss I'm targetting, which means less damage from sliver.

I love this build. As an A/E with 16 SA 12 earth I've made about 150k in 3 days, farming maybe 2 hours aday, with it. In the optional slots I use obsidian flame, aftershock, and shadow refuge. Equipment is my pair of shocking +5e oni daggers of enchanting. Works very well. If you get sliver to target the boss, its as good as dead 90% of the time.

zadinos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/N

When im fighting Sunreach in most cases 90% of em silver never targets him.
Try like me to kill all around until silver start to target him , it eventually will do.
Dont worry there will still be lots of enemys left to finish him of.

Rah Balder

Rah Balder

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Khz
Where can i find that warrior boss that is at the end of video (not sunreach) and what does he drop ? thanks
Theres 2 Warrior bosses besides Sunreach in the Video. The first one is Chkkr Ironclaw and he can be found in Mourning Veil Falls southwest of Durheim Archives. The one at the end is Reefclaw Ragebound that can be found northwest of the Leviathan Pits in Gyala Hatchery (Explorable).
Quote:
Originally Posted by ectospasm
this build is totally pathetic for an E/A
maybe its better for an A/E but so far its useless to me.

i fought maybe 4 bosses and they almost died, maybe 1/4 health left by the time shadow form ended & silver armor. only boss i killed was konru tainted stone. he didnt drop a green.

i have just the opposite. 16 earth & 12 arts. with a millus's pillar & razazans fervor+ a 25nrg scroll. 106dmg with tenais crystals & aftershock is 105 +76 kd dmg. plus ive used shock, etc. nadda. sux...

i shadow step in. hit sf, glyph, silv armor. aftershock, crystals. still isnt enough to kill the bosses. by the time i go thru this process SF & SA are running out. its a nice concept but really, it sucks. even with the 20% enchant its still not enough time to do anything significant. id like to try it with an assassin to see if the few extra seconds are significant. but i doubt it, cause with 12 earth its not enough damage output and i have 16 in earth as an ele. it should take down any boss with as much damage as im dealing. i give up. back to the old methods. Dude. This is really pissin me off. This build is amazing. Wat Desire made is GW History. If you cant make it work, it is you that suck and you that is pathetic. Dont blame the build cause its simply amazing.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ectospasm
this build is totally pathetic for an E/A
maybe its better for an A/E but so far its useless to me.

i fought maybe 4 bosses and they almost died, maybe 1/4 health left by the time shadow form ended & silver armor. only boss i killed was konru tainted stone. he didnt drop a green.

i have just the opposite. 16 earth & 12 arts. with a millus's pillar & razazans fervor+ a 25nrg scroll. 106dmg with tenais crystals & aftershock is 105 +76 kd dmg. plus ive used shock, etc. nadda. sux...

i shadow step in. hit sf, glyph, silv armor. aftershock, crystals. still isnt enough to kill the bosses. by the time i go thru this process SF & SA are running out. its a nice concept but really, it sucks. even with the 20% enchant its still not enough time to do anything significant. id like to try it with an assassin to see if the few extra seconds are significant. but i doubt it, cause with 12 earth its not enough damage output and i have 16 in earth as an ele. it should take down any boss with as much damage as im dealing. i give up. back to the old methods. Lol. There is only 1 answer to this.

You sir, SUCK.

If you think it can't kill anything... so be it, 1 less person farming Kaolins using the only solo-farming method available for them, more drops for the rest of us. 7 Domination Staffs 4 Accursed and 2 Protection disagree that it can't kill for shit.

zadinos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/N

Dont be so mean , the guy only need some praktice. I tryed to learn my friend to farm Sunreach but it was impossible for him , eheeh.
I agree with you the build is great but you need some practice and most important concentration.
I was trying to kill Chrrk ironclaw with this build and its kinda hard, anyone managed to kill him?
Have not tryed with rust cos i was after other bosses had other skill setup.

Rah Balder

Rah Balder

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by zadinos
I was trying to kill Chrrk ironclaw with this build and its kinda hard, anyone managed to kill him? I dont think its possible to kill Ironclaw with this build. Wat you need to do is a bit of ''mob control''. Pull hes group into the Warden group and then pull the 2nd Warden group into Ironclaws group and with a bit of luck he should be the only one left. Let him regen then go Gank him!

Desires

Desires

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ectospasm
this build is totally pathetic for an E/A
maybe its better for an A/E but so far its useless to me.

i fought maybe 4 bosses and they almost died, maybe 1/4 health left by the time shadow form ended & silver armor. only boss i killed was konru tainted stone. he didnt drop a green.

i have just the opposite. 16 earth & 12 arts. with a millus's pillar & razazans fervor+ a 25nrg scroll. 106dmg with tenais crystals & aftershock is 105 +76 kd dmg. plus ive used shock, etc. nadda. sux...

i shadow step in. hit sf, glyph, silv armor. aftershock, crystals. still isnt enough to kill the bosses. by the time i go thru this process SF & SA are running out. its a nice concept but really, it sucks. even with the 20% enchant its still not enough time to do anything significant. id like to try it with an assassin to see if the few extra seconds are significant. but i doubt it, cause with 12 earth its not enough damage output and i have 16 in earth as an ele. it should take down any boss with as much damage as im dealing. i give up. back to the old methods. As others have said its the person running the build not the build itself. This is not a 55monk build where you just turn your enchants on run into the trolls and watch for them to start blinking and renew.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by zadinos
Dont be so mean , the guy only need some praktice. I tryed to learn my friend to farm Sunreach but it was impossible for him , eheeh.
I agree with you the build is great but you need some practice and most important concentration.
I was trying to kill Chrrk ironclaw with this build and its kinda hard, anyone managed to kill him?
Have not tryed with rust cos i was after other bosses had other skill setup. Slagging off a build becuase your too crap to do it and saying i need practice are entirely different things. That post was slagging off, nothing more, nothing less.

If you can't do enough damage to kill a boss, the answer is usually simple. Either bring more damage skills or lure more groups Its always funny killing Scar Eater in about 4 seconds then slaughtering about 10 other things before you decide to flee.

pegasux

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ectospasm
this build is totally pathetic for an E/A
maybe its better for an A/E but so far its useless to me.

i fought maybe 4 bosses and they almost died, maybe 1/4 health left by the time shadow form ended & silver armor. only boss i killed was konru tainted stone. he didnt drop a green.

i have just the opposite. 16 earth & 12 arts. with a millus's pillar & razazans fervor+ a 25nrg scroll. 106dmg with tenais crystals & aftershock is 105 +76 kd dmg. plus ive used shock, etc. nadda. sux...

i shadow step in. hit sf, glyph, silv armor. aftershock, crystals. still isnt enough to kill the bosses. by the time i go thru this process SF & SA are running out. its a nice concept but really, it sucks. even with the 20% enchant its still not enough time to do anything significant. id like to try it with an assassin to see if the few extra seconds are significant. but i doubt it, cause with 12 earth its not enough damage output and i have 16 in earth as an ele. it should take down any boss with as much damage as im dealing. i give up. back to the old methods. your hilarious...this build is one of the best there is for farming any boss. the build is not pathetic...you are for bashing a build that your aren't good enough to run. i run a e/a since i don't have a a/e and can farm the heck out of the bosses. 7 kaolin accursed, 3 kaolin protection, 5 kaolin blades, 2 kaolin domintation, 7 sunreach, plus the other outside the armory and eternal grove. yeah it's a pathetic build...lol. i went from 400k to over 1 mil in 2 days...having to buy ectos and shards just to make room. Keep up the great work desires.