mo/e uw solo, will drive SS/SV out of business

sage tank

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/Mo

I call this build the "I Burn I" build, IT combines the
Spell breaker for nightmare safety and uses an alternative source of damage,
instead of the fancy SS or holy wrath, it will burn its enemies to death


The build is quite simple, get a shirt less monk,

spread your attribute around like this (after rune)

10 protection
10 smite
10 divine favor
12 fire magic


skill used:

BURNING SPEED
spirit bond
protective spirit
Spell Breaker(E)
OPTIONAL (I use divine boon for extra healing)
Blathazar spirit
Essense bond
Retribution

This build will take the axtez and smitey down with in a minute, cold night is like a breeze.

though, i'm still in practicing phase with this build

the killing of squiddy is bit hard, I usually kil them along with axatzes so their extra healing can heal of me. make sure you dont case spell simultinouesly, they can skull crack 1/4 second spells .

If anyone want help me practicing this build i'll be glad to do so, I still die 1/2 the time from squiddys my IGN is "Pelius the Seer", or on my other account "Sage Tank"

Also, if you have the HAWT starter's low AL armor, I suggest you boast your hp to as high as possible to take more damage.


the -7 degen and damage from retribution will kill the axtaze very fast



Here is a list of advice so far:
grasping is a problem, but take off your shirt is one way to cope problem but here is a list of what i do...

-fight axtaze and grasp in same time, keep your hp at 300 so the extra healing from axtazes will recover the graspinping's damage, and whadda u know, grasping always die first
-never aggro more than 1 group, the 2 group's random skull crack will often hit one of you 1/4 second spell
-take off shirt, thats why we call it a skirtless monk =)))
-use divine boon
-never... ever... cast 2 spell in a row, they try to interrupt your spirit bond, and may hit protective spirit
- On worst case, if u get dazed... RUN!!!!!!
- also if you really really good, just move right and left when they attack.
because when you move, grasping inflict 100% critical hit, their critical hit
even with flurry does 60+ damage- But there is one catch, when you stop
moving, stop for half a second before casting, grasping does an automatic
interrupt when you stop moving
-DONT GET GREEDY WITH RETRIBUTION"S DAMAGE when fighting squiddy!!!! keep your hp at low can be beneficial since your healing is worth more againist annoying low damage foes

Here are some advice when fighting smites:
-don't cast burning speed asap, let their energy drain when they attack you and retribution does damage back, you will know if they are low in energy because they will stop spam rof, then you time burning speed so they dont have energy to immediate removal, but will be burned for few second, then they remove, you burn them again, they have no energy etc etc
-take one of my favorite skill "FLAME BURST", it just owns the smite but may cost a bit energy, 99 damage per 5 second is pretty high

Advice on Coldnight:
-malestrom is your friend, you can't get interrupted, and they heal your and restor your energy
-if you want them to stop healing, use spell breaker, if they cant cast, they die. But on the down side, when they wand you you take lot damage


NOTE: This is an interesting fact I have noticed, when I play at home, when there is a fast internet and skill instantly activate skill after click, 1/4 second skill cannot be skull cracked. However, when i was playing at school today, I got my frigging skull cracked 5 times, died 3 times. So note, if you have a slow internet connection, beware, something is with the AI interrupt, its like they know when you are going to activate skills.




P.S. I have friend list turned off, too many question and I'm still trying to practice

If anyone want to try this build on other parts of UW please do and post your result, I only did the frozen wasteland with smite and the chamber, any brave venture exploration into terrorweb is appreciated =)

Also, this build works in fow also, just burn the mesmer then monk (put scourage healing on them they go down like doggies, stupid moron try to save the others) to death first, and DONT SPAM, SS from the necro makes is pointless to try salvage healing from divine favor, just go shirtless, I have seen too many idiots trying to wear 15 al armor on chest, head, and arm. It took few tries but yesterday I was able to clear the hill of shadow army, it wasn't as difficult as i thought it would. And I packed scourage healing in fow for the monks.

Buns United

Buns United

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Holland, ZHZ

R/W

Say how long does it take you to actually kill something after engaging battle?

sage tank

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/Mo

lol do the math, axatze has 3 regen, burning all the time has -7 degen and retribution make them take around 13 damage per 1.25 second

they got 680+ hp, do the math but i say less than a minute

LiamR

LiamR

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Prefer Unlight Beer [PuB]

Hm. Wish i have a monk now :P

Buns United

Buns United

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Holland, ZHZ

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by sage tank
lol do the math, axatze has 3 regen, burning all the time has -7 degen and retribution make them take around 13 damage per 1.25 second

they got 680+ hp, do the math but i say less than a minute 65 second to be exact.. anyway just tried it, got killed by the graspings since they didn't always trigger spirit bond any suggestions?

White_Chaos

White_Chaos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Evrope

No armor exept +1 reg energy pieaces and runed dragon mask

sage tank

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/Mo

grasping is a problem, but take off your shirt is one way to cope problem but here is a list of what i do...

-fight axtaze and grasp in same time, keep your hp at 300 so the extra healing from axtazes will recover the graspinping's damage, and whadda u know, grasping always die first
-never aggro more than 1 group, the 2 group's random skull crack will often hit one of you 1/4 second spell
-take off shirt, thats why we call it a skirtless monk =)))
-use divine boon
-never... ever... cast 2 spell in a row, they try to interrupt your spirit bond, and may hit protective spirit
- On worst case, if u get dazed... RUN!!!!!!
- also if you really really good, just move right and left when they attack.
because when you move, grasping inflict 100% critical hit, their critical hit
even with flurry does 60+ damage- But there is one catch, when you stop
moving, stop for half a second before casting, grasping does an automatic
interrupt when you stop moving
-DONT GET GREEDY WITH RETRIBUTION"S DAMAGE!!!! keep your hp at low can be beneficial since your healing is worth more againist annoying low damage foes


Other than these advices, I would really love any donations, to build this build I already spent 15+k in and out from UW and buying skills, and so far I merely gotten 1 ecto .

Effigy

Effigy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Illinois, US

Heroes of Talia [HoT]

Mo/

How long would it take to kill Ataaxes without any Smiting? Seems safer to go with 55/Healing than 605/Smiting, as long as it will kill them.

beltran13579

beltran13579

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/E

it would take a long time to kill smites with only ret

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

No SS/SV = no visage = graspings causing dazed and flurry = you getting interupted and not taking enough damage to trigger SB

I'm sure you can probably pull off a few runs, but I don't see how this is better than the SS/SB duo run. I've tried several solo builds and the necro/monk UW duo run is still the most reliable and fastest and therefore has provided the most net profit.

The ways to deal with Graspings are good advice, but your build still seems about as reliable as the Rt/Me vengeful UW solo build, which I have tried and made a very minor profit from using compared to my monk/necro runs.

Deacon Roswell

Deacon Roswell

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

San Diego

Absence of Evidence [AoE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by XvArchonvX
The ways to deal with Graspings are good advice, but your build still seems about as reliable as the Rt/Me vengeful UW solo build, which I have tried and made a very minor profit from using compared to my monk/necro runs. If Dahnel's solo Rt/Me build wasn't profitable to you, then you simply weren't good at it or didn't understand how to use the build. It's rediculously fast and VERY easy. You can finish a run in less time than a 2 man team and you don't have to split ecto drops. The only advantage a 2 man team has is the ability to kill the aatxes, which haven't dropped much ecto for me anyway. I've done about 25-30 successful runs in a row now without dieing, and I've talked with others that rarely die now using Dahnel's build.

I'll try this new build when I get home. The key to the grasps is to take them with the aatxes just as the OP stated. Same principle as the dual sb / smite monk team. With shing jea level 15 armor and aatxe's providing the damage for spirit bond, grasps are just a road bump to the smites.

El Panty Bandito

El Panty Bandito

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Kansas

[LaZy]

Mo/Me

Gonna give this a try!

monty123

monty123

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Michigan

None Currently

W/

How is your armor set up rune wise?

sage tank

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/Mo

i'm pretty poor right now, so i only got major runes on the armor, but I use -50 hp grimmy to keep my health relatively low around 380(after deep wound its 300ish) retribution do 10 damage, i kill grasps easily with healing from divine boon and going shirt less, but most important thing is not to activate 2 spell in row as their skull crack will destroy you, unless you run that is and btw, if your Spirit bond and PS is still active when u run, your survival rate is 100%, as anything hit you when u run is critical damage, and it will heal u . However if u r unlucky and accidentally run into a hidden night mare, say good bye. This build work as fast as SS/SV if u are getting better at it.

BTW it helps having +20 enchant, since the after the 6 second of burning speed, you can instantly activate the next one and now how to time the burning. FIre magic is not required to be 12, make it 10 or 9 also work, let it burn for least 7 seconds. NO DO NOT GO 55 using this build, YOU WILL BE BURNT TO DEATH!!!

monty123

monty123

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Michigan

None Currently

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sage tank
i'm pretty poor right now, so i only got major runes on the armor, but I use -50 hp grimmy to keep my health relatively low around 380(after deep wound its 300ish) retribution do 10 damage, i kill grasps easily with healing from divine boon and going shirt less, but most important thing is not to activate 2 spell in row as their skull crack will destroy you, unless you run that is and btw, if your Spirit bond and PS is still active when u run, your survival rate is 100%, as anything hit you when u run is critical damage, and it will heal u . However if u r unlucky and accidentally run into a hidden night mare, say good bye. This build work as fast as SS/SV if u are getting better at it.

BTW it helps having +20 enchant, since the after the 6 second of burning speed, you can instantly activate the next one and now how to time the burning. FIre magic is not required to be 12, make it 10 or 9 also work, let it burn for least 7 seconds. NO DO NOT GO 55 using this build, YOU WILL BE BURNT TO DEATH!!! Alright thank you, couldn't do it with my broken att's :]

Timmy Shinobi

Timmy Shinobi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

OGF Ohio Geek Fest

W/

Hmnn...interesting thanks

Gizmo Loco

Gizmo Loco

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Another way to make Graspings easier is using a Fiery Flame Spitter. -10 Armor while attacking

Im gonan try this build soon

sage tank

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/Mo

just tried fow, this build also works, use scourage healing to kill off monk, burning speed as cover enchantment i just destroyed the entire shadow army on the hill in beginning burning speed is l33t

Nathan the Skank

Nathan the Skank

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Cincinnati

Sleepless Farmers

W/E

CLOSE THIS THREAD NOW, before too many people get the build and something horrible happens, like a nerf. I just tried this and it's awesome, very fast, easy, perfect. I love it.

xiaotsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Doomlore Shrine

Just Us Gamers [JUGs]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan the Skank
CLOSE THIS THREAD NOW, before too many people get the build and something horrible happens, like a nerf. I just tried this and it's awesome, very fast, easy, perfect. I love it. Spoken like a true a**hole. Build threads don't get closed for working, you're greedy, you should probably leave.


Going to try this soon, seems like it's gotten good feedback. Congrats on thinking of it.

Oh, and Sage, I spent 30k doing UW runs with a guildie to get him used to being the 55, only made like 10k back, so I feel your pain But it'll pay off in the long run.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan the Skank
CLOSE THIS THREAD NOW, before too many people get the build and something horrible happens, like a nerf. I just tried this and it's awesome, very fast, easy, perfect. I love it. Would you also recommend me closing every other farming build that works good?

Bokocasso

Bokocasso

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/A

There is no favour now. But I tried this with the minotaurs in elona, and man - this is great. Thanx :P

jinkas

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan the Skank
I just tried this...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Would you also recommend me closing every other farming build that works good? Better wait until he gets a chance to leech off of them first. It's only fair to close them if he's seen them.

@OP: Great build! The Graspings seem to enjoy Skull Cracking me, but I'm sure I'll get used to the feel of this build and figure it out eventually. Thanks for sharing!

sage tank

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/Mo

ALL of you looked at my build, thanks for comment and suggestion, although, I'm a bit poor right now and I woul thank you all if you keep this on the low side... I'm not trying to get super rich but I just want enough money to unlock all the skills. So try not to redirect this build to other forum just keep it to yourself k? Also, it is very possible burning speed can get nerfed, try not over abuse it.

1/4 casting and no recharge ??? thats got to be some mistake, please, if u know where else you can farm with this build other than fow or UW, please make suggestion and I'll try it asap

sage tank

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/Mo

BTW I'm off to sleep, and please, as respect to this build's creator, dont make a video out of this

Nathan the Skank

Nathan the Skank

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Cincinnati

Sleepless Farmers

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by xiaotsu
Spoken like a true a**hole. Build threads don't get closed for working, you're greedy, you should probably leave.


Going to try this soon, seems like it's gotten good feedback. Congrats on thinking of it.

Oh, and Sage, I spent 30k doing UW runs with a guildie to get him used to being the 55, only made like 10k back, so I feel your pain But it'll pay off in the long run.
...geeze, i was just joking. guild wars money isn't the most important thing in my life, i really don't care if tons of people get rich in the game

xiaotsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Doomlore Shrine

Just Us Gamers [JUGs]

R/

Hmm...I can't think of a good skill to put in that extra slot...

And Nathan, sorry if you were joking, can't really tell on the magical internet...


/edit; tossed divine boon on like you did and tried it, works nicely

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Arkantos wins this round of double Jeopardy by answering "Yes" with...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Would you also recommend me closing every other farming build that works good?

jinkas

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

R/

Has anyone been able to duplicate this yet? I've been able to kill all the squids and cows, but I hit problems when I get to the smites. They use Mend Condition to get rid of the burning and negate the damage from Retribution with Reversal of Fortune. I tanked a group of 5 of them for about 6-7 minutes thinking they would run out of energy, but they never did. It was a stalemate: they have no interrupts and were giving me unlimited energy so they couldn't kill me, but I wasn't doing enough damage and couldn't kill them. Suggestions?

Gizmo Loco

Gizmo Loco

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ok, I've tried this a couple of times and just have one question - how do you have the energy at the start to cast everything as your rounding them up? I can cast one PS, Bond and SB, but assoon as Bond runs out I dont have the energy to renew it.

Rheemer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gizmo Loco
Ok, I've tried this a couple of times and just have one question - how do you have the energy at the start to cast everything as your rounding them up? I can cast one PS, Bond and SB, but assoon as Bond runs out I dont have the energy to renew it. Are you using balths spirit / essence bond ?
BtW - great build

Gizmo Loco

Gizmo Loco

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Yes, I am, but I'm talknig about when I am aggroing them - if they dont hit me enough I die, and if I stop I can get blocked :/

Rheemer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Australia

Hmm i dunno, last time i checked 3 ataxes was enough to keep your energy up, try taking divine boon off if your using that cause its not rly needed.

Bokocasso

Bokocasso

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/A

Try using Blessed Signet Instead of boon.

Archaic Nightmare

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Order of the Phoenix Dragons

Mo/N

Many thanks for this as I just took Burning Speed on the dual monk set-up and makes coldfires no probs at all anymore. I will def give it a try soon solo tho.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deacon Roswell
You can finish a run in less time than a 2 man team and you don't have to split ecto drops. The only advantage a 2 man team has is the ability to kill the aatxes, which haven't dropped much ecto for me anyway. The 'run' is faster because you skip the Aatxe and terrorwebs... which most 55/SB monks consider part of a basic smiterun (including Servants of Grenth). Also, Aatxe have a higher rate of ecto drops than smites.

An innovative build... nice to see. How far exactly can it go, and what additional quests can be completed?

jake jacobs

jake jacobs

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

North Kryta Province

Ab Booze Crooz [HIC]

R/

okey dokey just so you all know, blessed sig DOESNT get interupted by the the bull guys (sorry i cant spell their name) and the squids will interupt it but they die so fast that it really dont matter

just giving you guys a heads up

tuna-fish_sushi

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

mabye the extra slot could be glyph of concentration to negate the skull cracks? just a thought

What Now Homie

What Now Homie

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

I'm currently looking for a PvP guild

W/

Im trying life attunement for the extra slot right now...

sage tank

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/Mo

Guys, if you really need extra damage and feel a bit riskier pack in
"FLAME BURST"

I got a bit impatient, so i dared and took off divine boon and slotted in flame burst, smite dies within 40 seconds