I was reading some moans about hackers, and this idea just popped into my head. What if there were an option to have a PIN code for the Xunlai agents?
It could act much like a bank PIN. You go up to the Xunlai, and instead of being able to go in directly, a dialogue box comes up asking for your PIN (I suppose it could be a second password if you preferred), you type it in, and if it's correct, you can access your storage.
Maybe this could be a second hurdle for hackers to jump if they're just out to steal items/gold? Also, while I'm on this train of thought, I heard about people's characters being deleted by hackers. A PIN/password for that too, instead of just entering their name?
I don't know the practicalities of putting any of these ideas into effect. I thought I'd put them down here and see what people think. If it could help, that would be great. I for one wouldn't mind the small inconvenience of inputting a PIN/password when accessing storage/deleting a character, if it means there's even less chance of a hacker being able to do so.
PIN for Xunlai
Tsamikayu
UBS
Absolutly great idea.
/signed
/signed
Dougal Kronik
/not signed for the PIN.
With the limited storage I'm constantly swapping with the Xunlai Agent and between characters.
/signed for the PIN on the Delete of a character.
With the limited storage I'm constantly swapping with the Xunlai Agent and between characters.
/signed for the PIN on the Delete of a character.
Addone_Abaddon
/signed on both!
Briliant idea! Maybe make an option to set a PIN for accesing characters.
Briliant idea! Maybe make an option to set a PIN for accesing characters.
Knight Othin Of War
even if you do add pins, people will still be able to hack into it. Hackers have programs that can see exactly what keys you type and knowing some people, they will put bank pin codes etc
/Not Signed (For Both)
/Not Signed (For Both)
Azrael1309
/signed
It'll at least help the situation with some of the not-so-crafty hackers.
As far as switching characters to move stuff around, there's a way through that. The PIN can be used to unlock your storage. Once unlocked, it stays unlocked. When you want to lock it, you can just hit a 'lock' button until the next time you want to access it.
It'll at least help the situation with some of the not-so-crafty hackers.
As far as switching characters to move stuff around, there's a way through that. The PIN can be used to unlock your storage. Once unlocked, it stays unlocked. When you want to lock it, you can just hit a 'lock' button until the next time you want to access it.
Monk Mystic
OOOR just have a button to turn it off completely, if you dont set it, its doesnt ask so it doesnt annoy those of us that dont give a crap about the stuff in our storage.
/signed
/signed
Skuld
Too much hastle for the majority of players. If you don't want your account stolen, take precautions, all this will do is instil a false sense of security, don't you think the keyloggers won't just copy the PIN?...
Tsamikayu
In answer to the people who have mentioned keyloggers - avoiding keyloggers is common sense. As long as you have a decent firewall, keep your virus scanning software up-to-date, and take all the necessary precautions with downloading (and especially installing) files, you shouldn't have a problem with keyloggers.
In any case, there could always be an option to 'turn off' this extra security. It's not like it would have to be mandatory.
In any case, there could always be an option to 'turn off' this extra security. It's not like it would have to be mandatory.
Amok Affinity
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I watched a TV program about hackers
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Maria The Princess
/signed!!!!!!!!!
and if you fail to enter the PIN 3 times in a row you are disconected and your account password is reset and a new password is sent to your Email.
the PIN would have to be a mix of numbers and letters to make it harders
and if you fail to enter the PIN 3 times in a row you are disconected and your account password is reset and a new password is sent to your Email.
the PIN would have to be a mix of numbers and letters to make it harders
Wrath Of Dragons
Runescape did something to eliminate the keylogger risk:
it is a keypad that is activated by mouse pointer, so you enter no keys. as a additional feature, after each key is pressed, the numbers shuffle to new locations on the pad
it is a keypad that is activated by mouse pointer, so you enter no keys. as a additional feature, after each key is pressed, the numbers shuffle to new locations on the pad
TheSonofDarwin
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Runescape did something to eliminate the keylogger risk:
it is a keypad that is activated by mouse pointer, so you enter no keys. as a additional feature, after each key is pressed, the numbers shuffle to new locations on the pad |
Definately a nice idea, and sure - make it optional. We'd have more fun laughing at the people who didn't use it when they post about their storage being cleared anyways, right?
Bale_Shadowscar
/signed, but only if its optional.
Mrscoombes
People might be able to sell/scam their PINS. I dunno really
Former Ruling
Yes, Thats one thing Runescape, though being a debateably crappy game, did right. Maple Story has a similar system for logging in - But it isnt optional.
Its there if you want it, but not a mandatory protection, and You can always take it off (with a 7 day wait of course - long enough to recover the account from the person, it'd be useless if the person could just take it off then)
Its there if you want it, but not a mandatory protection, and You can always take it off (with a 7 day wait of course - long enough to recover the account from the person, it'd be useless if the person could just take it off then)
HawkofStorms
/not signed
Unlike passwords for you account which can be retrieved, how exactly is somebody who forgot their pin for their storage account in game supposed to retrieve their pin if they forget it? Otherwise, tough luck, you are locked out of storage forever...
And if somebody has stolen your account with a keylogger, well there is already no hope left for you anyway.
Unlike passwords for you account which can be retrieved, how exactly is somebody who forgot their pin for their storage account in game supposed to retrieve their pin if they forget it? Otherwise, tough luck, you are locked out of storage forever...
And if somebody has stolen your account with a keylogger, well there is already no hope left for you anyway.
xiao1985
/not signed
long and tedious
if you are stupid enough to have your account stolen, you deserve to have your items stolen...
if you got key logged, they can know your pin any way
/half signed - for the idea of mouse pointer pin
long and tedious
if you are stupid enough to have your account stolen, you deserve to have your items stolen...
if you got key logged, they can know your pin any way
/half signed - for the idea of mouse pointer pin
Sooty
/Signed for both
I'm terrified by the thought of someone hacking my account and thus losing so much time and effort, anything that reduces the threat from that is a good thing imo.
I'm terrified by the thought of someone hacking my account and thus losing so much time and effort, anything that reduces the threat from that is a good thing imo.
Knux
It seems that 2 out of 3 of people want it, and the other not wanting it. Some in the middle with an option to use it or not.
I would go in the middle with those few people. Yes, but with an option. I'm not too worried about being hacked, but I'm also not going to decline one more way to keep my stuff safe.
/signed with option
I would go in the middle with those few people. Yes, but with an option. I'm not too worried about being hacked, but I'm also not going to decline one more way to keep my stuff safe.
/signed with option
ubermancer
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Originally Posted by Skuld
Too much hastle for the majority of players. If you don't want your account stolen, take precautions, all this will do is instil a false sense of security, don't you think the keyloggers won't just copy the PIN?...
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/not signed
Quid Pro Quo
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bigwig
unnecessary. just have a good password, with letters and numbers. and if you're *really* concerned, get virus protection/spybot protection
llsektorll
u guys are too paraniod... hacking isn't as easy as it seems in the movies... get real out of the 2million accounts/players in gw i doubt even .01% have even limited hacking skills... chances of it happening are slim to none... lets not add an extra annoyance to guild wars
/not signed
ps... with customer service part of gw maintainence ... why waste the money on paying people to reset storage PIN numbers because you know there are gonna be thousands of "oh i forgot my PIN please reset it"
/not signed
ps... with customer service part of gw maintainence ... why waste the money on paying people to reset storage PIN numbers because you know there are gonna be thousands of "oh i forgot my PIN please reset it"
Marty Silverblade
/signed, just for those people who are really scared. It'd have to optional though.
ramma77
/signed for mouse pin thingy
Rathcail
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Originally Posted by llsektorll
u guys are too paraniod... hacking isn't as easy as it seems in the movies...
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Anyway, it just doesn't seem that important to me to have PIN for storage. You already have a password on your account.
Tsamikayu
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Originally Posted by TheSonofDarwin
MS has something similar, and I think it'd be great if the PIN was implemented and the input was mandatory using a virtual keyboard (click the numbers/letters).
Definately a nice idea, and sure - make it optional. We'd have more fun laughing at the people who didn't use it when they post about their storage being cleared anyways, right? |
I don't see what's so hard to remember about a four-digit number. I agree with Maria the Princess: three tries and you're locked out. Maybe not so far as having the account password reset, but maybe just automatically log them off and lock them out of their account for 10 minutes.
Also, I don't think it's fair to say 'You were stupid, you got your account hacked, shut up' because odds are that a lot of people's accounts are 'hacked' by 'friends' who guess their passwords. It has happened. Maybe I'm just being over-sympathetic towards the people who have logged in to find all their characters gone, or their storage cleared, but suffice to say I wouldn't like it to happen to me and any extra security would be welcome.
p.s. I know 'hacking' isn't as easy as it looks in the movies. I'm not under any impression that we're all at risk from 'hackers'. I just think that a little extra security could be beneficial.
Across The Battle
/signed on one condition
If it was completely optional to do or only once per login. I dont want to sit there typing 5392 every time i want to remove 1k from storage
5392 isnt any of my pins btw
If it was completely optional to do or only once per login. I dont want to sit there typing 5392 every time i want to remove 1k from storage
5392 isnt any of my pins btw
IrishCatholicNewYorker
/signed for both Great idea i hope this is considered by anet
Sax Dakota
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Originally Posted by Skuld
Too much hastle for the majority of players. If you don't want your account stolen, take precautions, all this will do is instil a false sense of security, don't you think the keyloggers won't just copy the PIN?...
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I totally agree with the above /not signed
awesome sauce
/signed for both but instead of typing it you should have to click on each symbol.
Nickhimself
they already have PIN numbers in some foreign mmo's and i've always thought of it to be good rather than annoying.
I mean, you almost always keep the most valuable of items in your bank, rather than walking around like a tool with 100k and a full inventory of black dyes or something.
I mean, you almost always keep the most valuable of items in your bank, rather than walking around like a tool with 100k and a full inventory of black dyes or something.