Sunspear Title Track (complete)

I dont think its extreme. Remember there are still 4 other areas we have to explore/complete in this chapter. There will be many points to be had.

right, well thats what I meant, there is alot more ground to cover, but it would be extreme if it was restricted to the starting island at 1point per kill

I was very happy when I saw there was a new title track for quests (I like to do every available quest with my characters, myself); I realized it could be sort of a "protector" title, only for quests instead. But then I noticed one could also farm for it, it was kind of a letdown.

BTW, farming IS grinding. even the farming in GW. NOT grinding is doing what a character would usually do in the game world in order to advance the story: ie. talking to people, solving quests, doing missions, travelling and exploring. when you start to "game the game", by killing a certain boss over and over for a green item, or other monsters for loot drops or some title, that becomes a grind. It's repetitive, it's boring, and it doesn't make sense story-wise. Granted, it might take less of it to get the most expensive equipment in GW (which doesn't make a difference in the game mechanics, btw), but it's still grinding.

well, time to retract an earlier statement I made..
I took a break, took a shower, ate some food and it was quite refreshing, so I decided I might try for legend anyway... Unfortunately, I can no longer get blessings from anyone



Earlier I said I thought that it was based on level, however due to the fact that I didn't just level up, just raised the title, I have to now conclude that it is based on your title not level.

so, since this is the case, We are guarunteed more points on the mainland, and I have to find something else to do

I don't think it's too extreme, and I actually hope there is a rank at 20K after that. I mean, we're talking about maxing out a title track, here. It's not supposed to be easy. And look how far you got in under 24 hours of playtime. Note that it was playtime, too, that contributed to it and not just grinding for Promotion Points (though I'm sure that counted for a lot of it too).

It's going to count towards Kind of a Big Deal, so it should take some effort to get. Like the GMC titles, or Wisdom/Treasure Hunter ones. I wouldn't be able to take pride in wearing the title it it weren't difficult to get and everyone else was wearing it because it was a gimme.

20k? Im thinking more like 200k++. All titles they add other than explorer/protector have extra-high numbers. I wouldnt be suprised if it even went up to 1,000,000. And even if it did i would still get it

true, I expect it to be alot higher, and I agree that it should be. It seems alot more tedius trying to do it in 3 days, but I hope it goes up, 1 mil would be nice, and when you think about it, probably will still not be that difficult throughout the course of the game. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

yeah that last 500 was a breeze.

Same as Reiden...no more blessings to be had...

Achievements:

Marshal Title, 5216 points. 160k XP.
All quests.
Masters on last two missions (first one just would not budge)
45 AL Armor dyed black. (money was getting deleted anyway)

^^ ugh, new female ele armor = teh suck.

More like, oops, if I move too quickly my "stuff" is gonna be all out in the open. Someone in ANet has been watching too many B-flicks unfortunately. At least with scar patterm/Ascetic armor, you could claim the runes provided magical protection, but this?

grats Karlos, I ended my last point run short not thinking I might not be able to get anymore otherwise I might of had same as you lol, but grats anyway

Heh, I farmed with a friend, and he beat me to the title by one run, so next run he couldn't get anymore points. So, I extended my last run as long as I could.

lol, I didn't do any grouping this weekend much to my dismay, but come release It will be interesting to see how heroes react to commands from several players

I don't think they will. If I recall correctly, when my guildie and I each brought a hero, I was only able to direct my own hero, not his.

That was the beauty of it. We formed two separate squads each one of us with 3 heroes. Your heroes will only follow you. So, I would farm the southern half of Issnur Isles (my crew is in the picture, all set for AoE damage) and he would farm the north and we'd meet at the end. Took about 25 minutes to gain 230-240 points .

wow, I thought you could only have up to 3 heroes in your party? If it's up to 3 heroes per person, well shoot, that changes alot of things lol

Now that the preview is over, it doesn't really matter, but I had a really fast, really short run that gave promo points really fast. If you started from Jokandur Diggings and entered the ruins of the first city (explorable, not the mission), you could get the skale blessing and then kill all the skales on your way to the ruins. Once you arrived at the ruins, there was a huge mass of level 2 skales, probably about 20 all bottled up in a little alcove. When you finished killing them (they die in like 1 or 2 hits from someone with 15 mastery in their chosen weapon), you should have gotten 42 promo points when combined with the skales on the way there. The whole run took about 2.5 to 3 minutes. Very fast farm.

42 divided by 3 is 14. At 14 points a minute, you could have 840 points per hour. That being said, you could have the Sunspear Legend Title with about 12 hours work. I don't like farming though. So after about halfway to Sunspear Marshall, I gave up and finished up the rest of the quests in the preview instead.

A great place is where ShadowStorm suggested above, but another is outside of Beknur Harbor. There are skales, plants, insects, corsairs. So I was running around with 4 blessings and gaining a point for everything I killed. Got to lvl 6 extremely fast.

That's not work.

Amm sorry for asking this but what exacly does this title do, except that you get those 2 15 att quests? I didnt realy notice any big difference in dmg or anything.. Are there any other benefits for doing it?

From what I garnered during my own quest for sunspear points getting a higher level in that particular title unlocked more skills to be bought at the skill trainer.

Why would a PvE only title give advantage usable in PvP?
Perhaps if it would allow you to get a buff at PvE res shrines, then sure. But having constant +100 health from being max in this rank? No WAY!

_Zexion

It wasn't possible...once I hit Sunspear Marshal, there were no more blessings available from any Scout. If this holds true when Nightfall is officially released...then to get to Legend, it will have to be from farming on the mainland.

I don't think it really does anything, other than being a title.
That's why I don't think anyone can complain about it. I mean, for both 15 point quests you only need to make it to captain I think. You can make that easy from quests and killing things on the way between towns. I mean, if you can't even be bothered to stop and talk to the scouts that's your own choice. Don't blame the game. Anyway, how many monsters do you think you kill just finishing the campaign anyway? Trust me, you'll have more points then you could ever need. Except for maybe max title, but if you want that you should earn it. You shouldn't just get it in like 3 days...

it unlocks paths and quests for your character the higher your title is.

That is completely untrue. You think I got Sunspear Commander from quests? lol.

Marshal is a higher tier the Commander...
U were commander, scouts were giving u orders to kill spefic foes. Once u are Marshall (5000 points) noone in the starter island gives u these orders = u cant reach 10k points and be a legend. in the preview event at least.
how's this completely untrue?

Sunspear Commander 1,000
Sunspear Marshal 5,000

^^ Exactly...I talked with every scout upon reaching the Sunspear Marshal rank and NONE had a blessing to offer any more promotion points nor were there any other quests/missions for reaching this rank...the Legend rank could NOT be obtained on the island during this preview event...

I'm not sure what the dispute going on is about but I'll try to help clarify some stuff from what I gathered.

The known ranks are as follows

Sunspear Sergeant - 50 points
Sunspear Master Sergeant - 100 points
Sunspear Lieutenant - 175 points --- This rank required to wear title
Sunspear Captain - 300 points
Sunspear Lt. Commander - 500 points
Sunspear Commander - 1000 points
Sunspear Marshal - 5000 points
Sunspear Legend - 10,000 points

aside from the 15 attribute point quests, I didn't actually notice any benefits from becoming higher rank. I did however notice quests become available in towns I had already been in, but this might have also been due to the fact that there were multiple quests from a person, where you have to complete one for the next to become available. So, while it is possible there are quests specific to your rank, I don't think that anything other than the first few are required to advance through the story.

More skills being available, I'm going to have to disagree with completely. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention, but I'm pretty sure I had the same skills available when I made my char and when I finished, and I bought majority of the skills available to me because I could

Another thing people are talking about is the Blessings and other runs that gain points. As I noted previously, the higher your Sunspear rank, the harder it is to find scouts who will bless you, and once I achieved Marshal, there were no scouts anywhere in any of the zones. Not even the ones farthest from the portals. So, as some have said, it is impossible to get Legend title on the Istani Island, unless perhaps you did it like people did in pre-searing to get to higher levels. I'm not sure if it would work, because I'm not sure if all the quests combined would give you 5k more points, but you could probably work up your titles strictly by the scouts blessings, and then once you get marshal, do all your quests to possibly get Legend - before leaving the island - I didn't think about this during the event, and I doubt I would of had time for it anyway, but It could be a possibility.

So again I will state, and you can look at my previous posts, Once you got Sunspear Marshal rank during the event, It was impossible to get any more blessings therefor not allowing you to get anymore promotion points unless you still had quests left.

Hey all, just wanted to share some great news with all of you.

Scribe #17 was posted today, and included within was recognition to those of us who achieved Sunspear Marshal rank during the event. I'm really excited about this because it's the first recognition I've recieved outside of my guild mates for anything. I'm also excited because of the 14 people who reached it, two of them come right here from Guru.

Lamees Again 5216 promotion points
Uh Im Outa Names 5088 promotion points
Ziben Derwish Ka 5075 promotion points
Sokartawi Shakkara 5060 promotion points
Cinque Tarnis 5036 promotion points
The Bloodsaint 5021 promotion points
Allu Folie 5016 promotion points
Eniah Sulas 5009 promotion points
Arwen Mondlicht 5008 promotion points
Fall Goddess 5006 promotion points
Muerte De Arriba 5005 promotion points
Sylv Goes Pve 5005 promotion points
Mystic Turbulence 5003 promotion points
Bengilan Bestuvian 5000 promotion points
Eigth World Wonder 5000 promotion points

So I just want to say congratulations to everyone again, and especially to Karlos aka Lamees for being the highest, even though I should of been had I finished that last run lol

Edit: Sorry Uh, and grats to you as well

Just a note, "Um Im Outa Names" is my co-farming partner. So, congrats to him too. He reads guru, but does not post as far as I know.

... After you finish defeating the Lich (The "end" to the campaign), if you go back to Droknar's Forge, there are quests Glint gives you. There is also the Sorrow's.. Furnace or whatever. I don't recall those being there in the beginning (I never got that far when it first came out xD), but I suspect they may eventually add a few new quests to Prophecies.

While the argument of getting the Marshall title is irrelvent to grinding, simply because that was a PREVIEW which is most likely only 1% to 5% of the game, and if you talk to the scouts, plus do missions (and you don't need to -grind- to get the title required for missions. do quests. they are there), you'll get it.

It's just a game. If you don't want a title, don't get it. Yeah, I think titles are dandy, but I don't think that one person having them makes them any better.

Looks like you got more sunspear points than anyone else in the world, congrats on that man, you'll be on "The Scribe #17" forever