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Jegred2

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

17 Jan 2007 at 20:32 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leighwyn

I've gotten my survivor up to 1,309,000 experience mostly through skill capping, and am so nervous about dying now that I don't even want to play her anymore

The closest call I've ever had was an ele dragon boss in Archipelagos who found the need to gale -> AS me to around 60 health o_0

lol thats nothing, my warrior had just finishing killing a boss and I came out with 4 health after the degen stopped, was about to bail and hope to god I didn't die before I mapped. BTW, I only do pug groups for missions, all the rest is henches and heroes.

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

17 Jan 2007 at 23:04 - 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burst Cancel

There is no way that anyone actually serious about getting survivor would take a PuG. I got Legendary Survivor on three different characters before Nightfall came out, and even without heroes it was much safer to go with henchmen than with other players.

QFT. I don't even let my guildies near my survivor toons. Henchmen are the only way to go.

The leechers that people complain about and assume are survivor wannabes are just ordinary leechers.

SamGad

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

X-Universe

W/Me

18 Jan 2007 at 00:03 - 43

I finished survivor one on my mon just before the capping weekend.
Decided that i needed to get to droks for ease of capping and had a guildee run me around all the desert missions.
Cue me tabbing out to switch music on the last mission, tabbing in 3 minutes later to see a hydra on the oddest patrol path right past the zone entrance, and my monk in a deep crater.
Followed swiftly by me getting thoroughly annoyed.
I mean seriously... I'd sat and watched everything up to then, and even for a good few minutes... but then, music swap. boom! *cries*

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

18 Jan 2007 at 00:40 - 44

i made an earth ele and im gonna try survivor. if i die its no big deal because i have the skillz title already and thats just awseome and im perfectly content with it.

lol

The Last Cruzader

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Who Kicked Down Our [Door]

W/A

18 Jan 2007 at 00:51 - 45

I deleted my ele survivior earlier because, I hated him (I wasstupid enough to buy 15k hydromancers lol) Then I made a rit survivior and got killed by a mob that was no where near me at lvl 17.

Maximumraver

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Netherlands

Twisted Revenge [TR]

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18 Jan 2007 at 06:18 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jegred2

lol thats nothing, my warrior had just finishing killing a boss and I came out with 4 health after the degen stopped, was about to bail and hope to god I didn't die before I mapped. BTW, I only do pug groups for missions, all the rest is henches and heroes.

With my mesmer (@ 509,xxx exp.) i was doing a quest in factions (Kaineng/City Area), just fighting the last mob, had 85% health left so no problem... and.... BOOM! Lightning Hammer, i look at my hp....1 left O.o uh-oh, but luckily mhenlo healed me about 5 secs later (couldnt do that myself, ether feast was recharging :\) so i survived without mapping to somewhere else :P

Res Ipsi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

Angel Sharks [As]

Me/

18 Jan 2007 at 14:48 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximumraver

With my mesmer (@ 509,xxx exp.) i was doing a quest in factions (Kaineng/City Area), just fighting the last mob, had 85% health left so no problem... and.... BOOM! Lightning Hammer, i look at my hp....1 left O.o uh-oh, but luckily mhenlo healed me about 5 secs later (couldnt do that myself, ether feast was recharging :\) so i survived without mapping to somewhere else :P

Good thing you had Mhenlo with you. Had it been Alesia*, gg.

*Which is probably why ANet left Alesia in Tyria. Worst.Monk.Ever.

Ravenwing

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

18 Jan 2007 at 16:57 - 48

Why does everyone say that Alesia is useless, she helped my ranger get Legendary Survivor in the crystal desert.

The poor girl even sacrificed her own life to stop me from dying at one point.

Shmanka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Your Head

The Brave Will Fall [Nion]

Me/

18 Jan 2007 at 18:53 - 49

I have survivor one on 3 characters. Although I want to get legendary for my elementalist, I can't stand that I lost 2 of my survivor titles by mapping. The third one was spiked from an ele boss :S Just had it coming.

Question: Does Vizunah Square (local/foreign) cutscene add to death count?

Arwen Evenstar

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

18 Jan 2007 at 19:47 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shmanka

I have survivor one on 3 characters. Although I want to get legendary for my elementalist, I can't stand that I lost 2 of my survivor titles by mapping. The third one was spiked from an ele boss :S Just had it coming.

Question: Does Vizunah Square (local/foreign) cutscene add to death count?

Getting to Survivor (1) has gotten easy for me after playing.. at least in the Factions campaign. I have done this by picking up all the quests I can. By the time I am in Kaineng Center, I am about level 18. Then doing their quests, the xp just comes faster and 20 is right around the corner. I made it close to the end of the game clearly at almost 500,000xp and fell into trouble with the internet. Horribly, I died with lag.. and I was pretty upset.. to die... not because I was not careful enough but because of my computer or internet connection. It was when you don't look like you are getting hit by attacks, but you ARE actually getting hit.

My story does end with a good note though. I'm using that character in PvP now and I am having fun. I have made it to Shiro, and I beat him without the fear of dying. I seriously don't know how you can live a battle with Shiro without having a group of people that know what they are doing. So now I started a new character, got Survivor (1) again, slowly working to 2nd at 468,000 xp past Boreas Seabed. That double xp elite capping weekend helped a lot.

I feel there is nothing wrong with any level of Survivor. I just don't like those who think they can sport the Legendary Survivor when they acheived it by doing Kurzick Lutz Fast Faction Farming as a doorman and when they actually play the game, show no skill at all. I know this, as one person who I helped "survived" even quit our guild to pursue the title. My guild is Luxon.. and he told me there is no Luxon side equivalent easy faction farming like KLFFF. He then pursuaded to convince our guild leader to even change alliance... lol He ended up leaving the guild and joined a Kurzick guild to do Lutz runs. Kinda sucks when someone takes advantage of your help and then just leaves.

*To answer your question, I read somewhere that they fixed the Vizunah Square Mission cutscene, but don't quote me on that.

What you can do is, if you have finished the mission alone, just click on the "Skip" button to end the cinema. If you were with a party and they want to watch it, just 'x' out if you think there is a chance you might die. Especially if there is a minion master necromancer in your party, there is a chance the minions go crazy in that time.

Res Ipsi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

Angel Sharks [As]

Me/

18 Jan 2007 at 22:55 - 51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenwing

Why does everyone say that Alesia is useless, she helped my ranger get Legendary Survivor in the crystal desert.

The poor girl even sacrificed her own life to stop me from dying at one point.

She's obviously partial to Rangers

Spectral Agony

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Band of Mythical Brothers

N/Me

18 Jan 2007 at 23:51 - 52

I'm going for survivor on a dervish right now and have decided to never pug or play that toon with any humans until I get legendary. There's just too many ways that others can screw you up.

One that comes to mind is the cinematic in the Iron Mines mission. Luckily I wasn't going for any titles, but some of us were still fighting near the mouth of the cave when our fearless would-be Wammo runner forged on to the seer. During the cinematic we continued to be attacked by the azure shadows and someone died because not everyone skipped the video.

So...I'm guessing people who try to leech their way to survivor generally don't make it.

Blame the Monks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

19 Jan 2007 at 02:57 - 53

I earned Legendary Survivor on my warrior. Like most others, I earned most of the exp from capping skills (~150) and completeing all quests, skills, and bonuses in all chapters. That put me at 4/5 for KoaBD, so I also mapped cantha 100% while earning my survivor. TBH, it was much easier than I expected -- the hardest thing by far was just not making mistakes or getting overconfident. Spikes in PvE are rare -- almost all deaths come from the player doing something dumb (aggroing too much and not running, getting trapped in a bad spot against an ele boss, etc). Just keep trying and be patient -- it is very doable.

My first death came just after the title. I sold my first death to a guildmate for $20k -- he shot me with a catapult in a gvg.

ozsparrow

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Melbourne, Australia

Order of Forgotten Heroes

W/R

19 Jan 2007 at 05:46 - 54

Forgive me for cutting this response from "another" fansite but here goes:

So, once again we have the "leech" topic subtely raised via another thread title!

I am constantly amazed at the number of PUGs I get into which, at the slightest sight of "trouble", have map-outs or resigns or leaves from so-called "survivors". What about us poor suckers left to "fight the fight" to achieve the mission goals (which, surprise, surprise, always seem to fail given the lack of members!)

The other thing that really bugs me is "so-called survivors" CONSTANTLY sitting well outside aggro range and "pulling" experience from the group and then being seen to have effectively "participated" in the mission!

I would personally love to BAN the title! To me, they make a mockery of the "co-operative" nature of PUGs.

Or, at the very least people, have the common decency to notify your fellow team members that you are trying for Survivor BEFORE starting the mission so that others can possibly accomodate any sudden "connection" problems you may encounter during the mission!

End of rant!

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

[eF]

Mo/

19 Jan 2007 at 06:09 - 55

ok, ask them before mission, if you feell they are going to ragequit take a hench or another player.

stop ranting

ozsparrow

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Melbourne, Australia

Order of Forgotten Heroes

W/R

19 Jan 2007 at 06:17 - 56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stupid Shizno

ok, ask them before mission, if you feell they are going to ragequit take a hench or another player.

stop ranting

What, so everyone in a PUG should be individually interrogated before a mission as to what myriad of titles they are pursuing? Cartographer? Survivor? Etc Etc Give me a break!

It is damn hard enough to efficiently form a PUG with appropriate skill sets and experience and player mix without individually having to ask every single participant whether their focus will be on CO-OPERATIVELY completing the mission goals for the good of the ENTIRE team instead of selfishly looking after their own skin!

If you participate in a team, your focus should ALWAYS be on the team outcomes and not your own!

Ban the title, or stay out of PUGs or own up before starting the mission if you are "title searching", IMHO!

Blame the Monks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

19 Jan 2007 at 06:58 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsparrow

Forgive me for cutting this response from "another" fansite but here goes:

So, once again we have the "leech" topic subtely raised via another thread title!

I am constantly amazed at the number of PUGs I get into which, at the slightest sight of "trouble", have map-outs or resigns or leaves from so-called "survivors". What about us poor suckers left to "fight the fight" to achieve the mission goals (which, surprise, surprise, always seem to fail given the lack of members!)

The other thing that really bugs me is "so-called survivors" CONSTANTLY sitting well outside aggro range and "pulling" experience from the group and then being seen to have effectively "participated" in the mission!

I would personally love to BAN the title! To me, they make a mockery of the "co-operative" nature of PUGs.

Or, at the very least people, have the common decency to notify your fellow team members that you are trying for Survivor BEFORE starting the mission so that others can possibly accomodate any sudden "connection" problems you may encounter during the mission!

End of rant!

I've never seen a survivor pug. Why would I trust my life to a pug when Koss is better than you in every way?

taffette

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sunny ol' Manchester

The Trumpet Blowers

R/

19 Jan 2007 at 09:14 - 58

I think we've already posted this, but: the legitimate survivors are much fonder of mishing/questing with heroes/henchies than with PUGs - there's a much higher chance of dying with PUGs. I wear my title proudly and the only human players I allow near my survivor are my guildies who know exactly what they're getting into, and I don't even do that very often. You're always going to get leeches. I advise hero-ing as opposed to PUG-ing if it's really bothering you that much

Res Ipsi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

Angel Sharks [As]

Me/

19 Jan 2007 at 12:03 - 59

The only time I didn't go with only hench/hero/guildmate was when a warrior asked to complete the Sunjaing (sp?) mission with a guildmate and I, *after* it was made clear I was a survivor. He was persistent in his desire to join us anyway. Believe me, I was more nervous about the warrior doing something to compromise my title effort (I was well over 1 million at that point), than I'm sure he was of my "ragequitting". As it turned out, he was a fine warrior and we completed Master's with no problems.
No survivor intent on getting to the third tier of the title is going to risk it with a pug. Those who sneak into pugs and quit at the least sign of trouble probably never get to LS. And those who sit in the background reaping the XP of others..well, they're just lame.

Azza

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Australia

United Farmers of Europe[FOE]

R/

05 Mar 2007 at 04:10 - 60

I Got my Legandary Survivors Title almost all with Hench and Heros, My guild help me do TT in factions and a group asked me to help in Viznuh, notified them of my LS intent, n/p only stipulation i made was Skip cinamatics in case of Minions, all good, I didnt avoid Pugs because i thought they where all bad, i used Heros and Hench because i wanted to control the enviroment i was in as much as i could which then lowers my risk of dying, that is what the title is about right? this would be almost impossible doing every thing with random Pugs, i cant imagine anyone going for LS with randoms especially if you dont tell them, you only put yourself at a greater risk and people who do obviously have no idea how to go about obtaining the title and chance are they got wacked long before they got any where near LS, i got my LS on a ranger, to me its the easiet Toon to use for the LS title and i wear it with pride, i did get down to 26 HP doing Consulate Docks, one of the very few times i forgot to alt space to target, lol, was tryn for masters, all the XP you can get helps.
I Take my hat off to "Blame The Monks" though, Legendary on a warrior, almost unheard of, Gratz, but to lable all LS title people because of a few of which you provide no proof of except "I heard" and "this guy quit" doen`t mean it is true, they could have just as easly have been disgruntled LS failures or wannabe giving genuine holders a bad rap because they can`t get it, like a few who have posted in here, its no reason to smear the many who have earn`t it the hard way

Shmanka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Your Head

The Brave Will Fall [Nion]

Me/

05 Mar 2007 at 04:38 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rera

As I've argued in the other thread ("People Know Me"), the main draw (and only difficulty) in this title is that you can't die.

I have no argument with allowing those who already had prophecies characters to have a shot at the title - by allowing you to erase your death count *once*. Allowing you to erase your death count at-will, as many times as you like, completely defeats the point of the title, regardless of how hard it is.

I don't group with people when I'm going for survivor. I take henchmen, because they're much more reliable.

I would want to debate against this point, there is a HUGE... HUGE difference from getting from level 1, then to 20, compared to 20, to 20.

Survivor was made to be a title to stretch for, and sacrafice time and put effort into. Im working on my 3rd tier 3 survivor, skill captures, henchmen, heroes... more then ridiculous to have ANY kind of 2nd chance.

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

05 Mar 2007 at 05:04 - 62

IMO getting survivor(1) is the easy part. It's keeping it active, particularly when you are playing most of your PCs without a survivor's mindset. So it's something to strive for and it's a playstyle change because if you really want a chance at legendary survivor, you have to make the survivor playstyle your normal one so you don't thoughtlessly make a mistake. Also the first part of the games (particularly factions and NF) are a lot easier to get survivor for. However once you get past a certain part of each game, the difficulty increases.

BTW, 3 survivor 1 pcs here, two still have the title active.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

05 Mar 2007 at 06:58 - 63

I just got level 1 on my Monk. Henchies all the way except for 1 or 2 missions with guildies/trusted friends - they all know what I'm shooting for. I will NOT use PUGs for 2 reasons: 1. I won't gamble my hard work away on a PUG that may just suck. 2. I won't bail on any PUG, especially a good PUG that just happened to run into a bit of bad luck.(it happens)

Now, when's the next double XP for skill caps weekend?

Blame the Monks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

05 Mar 2007 at 13:43 - 64

I have earned survivor 3 twice (war and mesmer). The warrior was before the days of heros, but I still spent 99% of my time with only hench. The only time I didn't is against unwaking waters and a couple of other very dangerous missions, where I got some friends to help. My second survivor I played 100% of the time with only hero/hench.

Heros are far more reliable and safer. Hero controls alone should make you invincible.

dunky_g

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

[SNOW]

05 Mar 2007 at 17:41 - 65

if you could die in survivor, they should change the title to 'nearly a survivor'

maby

-dunky

FelixCarter

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

05 Mar 2007 at 20:54 - 66

Survivor title is useless and pointless. There are too many variables that can interfere and make you lose that title forever. Then you're left with an unfinished title. How is that awesome? It's not.

sur·vive
v. sur·vived, sur·viv·ing, sur·vives
v.intr.
1. To remain alive or in existence.
2. To carry on despite hardships or trauma; persevere.
3. To remain functional or usable.

If you've remained alive and in existence after you've died once and regained 140,600 XP, then you should be able to continue to progress in Survivor. The definition of Survivor does not specify how long you must remain alive or in existence, it merely states that you remain that way for a given period of time.

Because Guild Wars is a game, and not real life, it can be safely assumed that one should not be expected to go through all campaigns while not dying once. Taking this into account ANet has provided us with Resurrection Shrines, allowing us to regain our life, unlike in reality.

Therefor, taking the definition of "Survivor" into account, and the nature of Guild Wars compared to the real world, we should be able to obtain the Survivor title even if we've died in the past.

For those of you who will respond to my statement with "That will demote and reduce the status of the title," I will ignore you post. I care not for such status symbols that people think so highly of. All I care about is a game that is fun for everyone and sensible.

Shakti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Home...

Vier Reiter [Vier]

05 Mar 2007 at 20:57 - 67

I got survivor 1 almost without realizing it. Built a baby MM in nf, got to level 16 or 17 before I even realized I was still on the track lol. Never did PuGs cause I hate those who bail/shirk because "my title! my title!" grrrrr, hero/hench all the way. I died somewhere in Vabbi, Dasha I think. She completed game with only 4 deaths. Not bad IMO. Is it "l33t" enough? Honestly, I couldn't care less lol. It was unintentional except once when I sent Koss to draw fire off me. It was fun. She's one of my fave chars. Meh whatever

Might be nice to be able to complete the track, but I'm not all that concerned.

Blame the Monks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

05 Mar 2007 at 21:10 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by FelixCarter

I care not for such status symbols that people think so highly of. All I care about is a game that is fun for everyone and sensible.

...then pray tell why exactly do you think you deserve the title? How does the fact that I can play the game for extended periods of time without making a mistake take away from your fun of the game? Let me guess -- you think you deserve the status of the title despite the fact that you don't actually meet the requirements of the title. I hope not, as that would make you just another whiner with a bloated sense of entitlement. Boy, that must be embarrassing =I

Survivor is the ONLY title in guild wars that you can fail, and thus the only title that has any level of exclusivity to it beyond time spent grinding. As one of the few indicators of actual skill in this game, I like the survivor title exactly as it is.

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

05 Mar 2007 at 22:59 - 69

I saw a person with Survivor #3 title yesterday, and sure its kinda cool, but kinda lame at the same time.

Its cool if you worked for it, but how can you prove you worked for it?

You cant.

You cant prove that you didnt get power leveled and you cant prove that you didnt drop pugs when the going got tough just to protect your title.

FelixCarter

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

05 Mar 2007 at 23:50 - 70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blame the Monks

...then pray tell why exactly do you think you deserve the title?

None of my characters have the Survival title. I have not tried to get the Survival title. I do not wish to get the Survival title. Nice going with the jumping to conclusions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blame the Monks

How does the fact that I can play the game for extended periods of time without making a mistake take away from your fun of the game? Let me guess -- you think you deserve the status of the title despite the fact that you don't actually meet the requirements of the title. I hope not, as that would make you just another whiner with a bloated sense of entitlement. Boy, that must be embarrassing =I

You talk too much and say nothing. All I said was "Survivor title is useless and pointless", much like your oppinion.

Perkunas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

In my own little world, looking at yours

Only Us[NotU]

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06 Mar 2007 at 00:42 - 71

To the OP - If you feel good about the title, then it is good enough. Don't worry about what others think about it. Only you know for sure what you put into getting it.

'Survivors" are stereotyped as leechers, quitters, etc... Only the survivor knows how it was achieved. When you see a survivor with, say Master Cartagrapher or Protector (could leech off guildies, if you have some to help,(1 man guild)), you know they aren't a quitter, leecher.

I currently have a warrior at lvl 11 and still 'on track' for survivor. I even spent a short time in Ascalon arena with him before level 11. I do not have access to Factions or Nightfall, so no high experience points for quests nor heros to help. I did get run to LA to aquire Hamstring, to slow down those running healers. I do missions/quests with PuGs and/or henches, and I am doing everyone in each area as I go. I don't say a word about trying for survivor. If I reach even lvl 1, you will hear me "CHEER" throughout all of Tyria.

In the end, be proud of what and how you achieve the goals you set.

Ravenwing

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

06 Mar 2007 at 11:04 - 72

It really makes me laugh at the mindset of people nowadays, the way people are all tarred with the same brush. Oh look, he/she has Legendary Survivor title, has got to be a leecher/leaver. Do you people walk down the street and say, 'that blokes wearing a hoody, quick call the police he's got to be a mugger'.

I have a ranger with Legendary Survivor and not once did I leech or leave, it was done completely with henchies. Even after dying at about 1 mil xp, I deleted and went back to start again, because I was determined to do it. She now has 7 maxed titles. 3 protectors, 3 cartographers and legendary. This has all been done in a period of about 5 months with my guildies, but my guild consists of me and my henchies.

These people that say survivor is a stupid title seem to smell of sour grapes to me. They haven't got the ability or staying power to do it. See, it's not nice being tarred with the same brush is it. We could just as easy put PvP titles down, I'm sure there are ways for people to leech and get those. When you see someone in pre displaying a rank emote, you know very well that character hasn't earned it. I'm not saying they leeched for the title, just that particular character did not earn it.

So please do not belittle people with survivor title because you have had one or two leecher/leavers in your party. A lot of us have worked hard to get it.

bobrath

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Scouts of Tyria

06 Mar 2007 at 15:44 - 73

The survivor title is really tainted by the first wave of folks that went out to get it for the "cool" factor. Once something else came along that was easier (and when they realized how tough it can be to get the title), they moved along. Yes there are still folks that leave/quit at the first sign of wipe, there are those that would rather have guildmates power level them, but I'd say that most folks going for it "now" would rather obtain it the "right" way.

Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

06 Mar 2007 at 16:51 - 74

It is unfortunate that the survivor title has been tainted by power-leveling and those that just couldnt be bothered to make the effort for it.

I got survivor with two of my characters through hard work and effort, unfortunately my Dervish died and cannot go beyond survivor 1, but my Paragon is still going and over half way to rank 2.
I admit that every time i take her out, it scares me that she may die, especially as she'll soon be entering Torment.
I have to admit that i only take my Paragon out with heroes and henchies as human players are two agro unpredictable and i'd really love to get the survivor 2 title (i cant really see her not dying in Torment though, so level 3 is unlikely).

So long as you feel proud of how you achieved the title (or any title) yourself, that is all that really matters.

JoeKnowMo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Wessst Siiide, USA

Mo/

06 Mar 2007 at 17:13 - 75

I hear they're going to rename this title to 'Alt + F4' :P

bug_out

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/E

06 Mar 2007 at 17:43 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perkunas

'Survivors" are stereotyped as leechers, quitters, etc...

There is a reason for that you know...

I have never seen a "survivor" stay for a whole mission. As soon as someone dies, they leave. This is why nowadays, I will not accept a survivor in a group, and I will leave a group that takes a survivor. I have kicked guildies from the guild I'm in for leeching or for quitting a mission to protect their precious survivor title.

Now you may not do that. I would not know, as I don't think I have ever grouped with you, but my experience tells me that "Survivor" = jackass and I don't want to play with anyone who has the survivor title.

Res Ipsi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

Angel Sharks [As]

Me/

06 Mar 2007 at 17:43 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by wsmcasey

Its cool if you worked for it, but how can you prove you worked for it?

Few LS feel the need to prove anything, since the title speaks for itself.

Shmanka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Your Head

The Brave Will Fall [Nion]

Me/

06 Mar 2007 at 18:57 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by wsmcasey

Its cool if you worked for it, but how can you prove you worked for it?

You cant.

Explain, this "power" leveling to my knowledge has completely ceased to exist since the AI nerf. Skill Captures, missions for masters and bonus. I have my r3 Survivor and beforehand I had 12/13 on Cantha and 24/25 on Tyria and 8/20 for Elona. There are exploits yes, FFF method is a good finisher for the title, nothing wrong with that. This is guild wars, this is a video game you use every exploit, tactic, and desires possible for the results you seek. I am dead certain no one... absolutely no one in this entire game got 1,337,500 exp for doing jack squat.

Shmanka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Your Head

The Brave Will Fall [Nion]

Me/

06 Mar 2007 at 19:04 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by bug_out

Now you may not do that. I would not know, as I don't think I have ever grouped with you, but my experience tells me that "Survivor" = jackass and I don't want to play with anyone who has the survivor title.

This is more then sad and unfortunate for both sides, possibly you have not had the experience of someone honest. There are 3 things every survivor should do before pugging.

Primarily, Mention he is a survivor. This prevents alot of hassles in the future should something go wrong.

Second, only leave the game if the situation sees fit, this is also a huge misconception that disconnecting saves you, infact you have approximately 10 seconds of your character standing still in the game without you controling it should you disconnect. The most safe fire situation is to port to your guild hall or a local city.

Third and lastly, do your job do not leech. My elementalist was always in the mid line, wanna know how to not die? Kill them first, Glyph of Sacrafice Res chant, Res signet, Metoer Shower. The best way to live and earn the survivor title is to be a team player.

I feel sorry for you and the action you took on guildmates, I don't know if you have ever attempted the survivor title yourself but pug when necessary, only. In Tyria the first pug group I had to do was at Thunder Head Keep, thats more then survivor 2 if you had done all the quests and used henchmen and heroes till then.

Perkunas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

In my own little world, looking at yours

Only Us[NotU]

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06 Mar 2007 at 20:12 - 80

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Originally Posted by Perkunas

'Survivors" are stereotyped as leechers, quitters, etc...

I currently have a warrior at lvl 11 and still 'on track' for survivor.

Just an update, now to level 13. Today was with a PuG doing the 3 "tough" quests from Piken Square, 'Dukes Daughter", "Fires in the North" and "Garfazz Bloodfang." Going after Garfazz, the party was wiped with me still hammering away at the mob. I could have just "hit that little x in the corner", but that would continue the bad rep survivors get. Finished off the mob, rezed the group and went on. Talk about an adrenalin rush, my heart was pounding thru out the melee.

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Originally Posted by bug_out

I have never seen a "survivor" stay for a whole mission.

You won't know that I am a survivor until the mission is done, and I will be there start to finish. I won't jepardize your missions or game play with my goals. If I die in that mission, I will finish it, then delete and try again. I have all the other titles I want on other characters, cartographer still in progress on one. This character slot is reserved for the "survivor". If it takes 20 tries, (attempt 4 underway) so be it.

Another update: Level 14 & 2% (72,941 pts) - Too danged many Stone Summit Dwarves. Back to pre.