Livingston's Guide to becoming a Grandmaster Elonian Cartographer! (No Map checks!)

Lazarus Arisen

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2006

Warriors of Etum

N/Mo

29 Dec 2006 at 12:20 - 763
Quote:
Originally Posted by lakatz
Hi fellow explorers!

How do I get to this spot on Istan? It's south of Astralarium and northwest of Champion's Dawn. I can't get close.



Thanks! Its not where you might think.... leave Champions Dawn into Plains of Jarin, and hug the wall going round to the north of the portal

lakatz

lakatz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

29 Dec 2006 at 17:13 - 764
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niila
...My actual problem is that when I take screenshot from u-map and then paste it to ms paint it comes as very huge, covering the whole image. How can I make that smaller so I can fit my whole map to one image?
Hi Niila...

I'd be happy to work from individual U-maps too. IOW, a U-map of each explorable area. However, I don't know how Livingston (or the board administrators) feels about attaching several images rather than one large one, so I haven't offered that option.

But keep in mind the only reason I need to work from U-maps is because I'm not as clever as the other map analyzers here who can see through the clouds on M-maps. I don't see how they do it, and I really think they are amazing, but they CAN do it, so it may not be necessary at all to post your U-map.

Quote: Originally Posted by Livingston
A couple of minor updates

Also if anyone would like to show their appreciation of the thread, please respond to the following thread. If you incappable, please direct anyone who is this way:



Thank you,
Livingston Hi Livingston...

I'm not seeing a link to another thread in your post. Do you mean the "next thread" button below? I just discovered under advanced options yesterday that I can rate this thread which I did immediately of course w/ a 5-for-excellent of course because I do so appreciate this thread.

Please pardon my ignorance, but I'm relatively new here and just learning my way around this forum. I do appreciate your patience as well.

Thanks!

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

29 Dec 2006 at 17:17 - 765


Anyone know how to get that?

lakatz

lakatz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

29 Dec 2006 at 17:25 - 766
Hi Bryant Again...

You can't get all of it if you're too high a level to play in the arena there, but talk to the arena guard who stands in front of those 'mysterious' closed double doors between the door to Plains of Jarin and the door to the Consulate. He'll let you into the staging area of the arena, and you can cover all that. It's not a lot, but it's enough to make your 100%.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

29 Dec 2006 at 18:41 - 767
Oooh so *that's* what that was...Thank you, Lakatz.

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

29 Dec 2006 at 18:50 - 768
paulatpingu marked

Shinka: The quality on your jpg is waaay too low.

Relentless

Relentless

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Boston, MA

W/

29 Dec 2006 at 19:20 - 769
Quote:
Originally Posted by lakatz
Hi Relentless...

So sorry I haven't been to the forum for a few days. You know how demanding the holidays can be.

Anyway, see what you can do with the attached map. and please let me know if it helped.

Thanks! Well I hope you had a great holiday! I appreciate you looking at my map. I checked all the spots several times. The only spot I didn't seem to get anymore map from was just outside champions dawn. After checking all the spots indicated I am at 99.9%! Do you see any other spots on the map that may give me the .1% Let me know Thanks again

Jebus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium

Legion of Sacred Light [LSL]

W/

29 Dec 2006 at 20:29 - 770
Could someone with 100% PLEASE post his M-map so I can do another difference check. I'd really appreciate.
Oh, and please take the screenie as soon as the map appears.

paulatpingu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Exeter, UK

SolBlades [Sol]

Mo/E

29 Dec 2006 at 21:48 - 771
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentVex
paulatpingu marked

Shinka: The quality on your jpg is waaay too low. Wow, lots to be getting on with... :-)

Thanks so much, I'll take a look at it all this weekend and hopefully get a lot closer to the 100% mark.

Niila

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

29 Dec 2006 at 21:58 - 772
Very nice Silentvex! Could you do same compare to me as well? I am at 99.1% at the moment and here is my zoomed-out map (taken as fast as I could after hitting M)
http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw218ao3.png

As for lakatz, if I still can't get to 100%, I will upload invidual u-map shots to imageshack.

Thanks in advance!

Jebus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium

Legion of Sacred Light [LSL]

W/

29 Dec 2006 at 22:20 - 773
If anyone could do a difference on this map, I'd greatly appreciate it.
I'm at 99.5% and I know I still have some fog in Chanty of Secrets.
Sorry for the quest marker btw.

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8427/mapxb8.jpg

Thanks in advance.

munnif

munnif

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Norfolk UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

N/Me

29 Dec 2006 at 23:21 - 774
Hey guys, first post on the elona cartographer site. Message to those that posted their maps on the first page of livingstones intro, I see that there were 3 maps on there for comparison, i want to do a huge difference map, by taking the non zoomed out "M" maps stitched together of a 100% map against my own 96.9% map. were these maps compiled in this way??? or are they edited "U" maps??? if they were non zoomed out ones then what resolution were they taken on? i have spent 3 hrs today messing about and i cant get it right. if not, how the hell did you do them?!?

I appreciate there are many peeps that need your time and effort, esp those that are beyond your 98% benchmark, so respond when you can.

(my max resolution goes to 1440x900, sorry im a weird 19" widesreeen guy)

cheers guys!

lakatz

lakatz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

29 Dec 2006 at 23:50 - 775
Hi Relentless...

First of all, here's a solution provided by another reader for that area north of Champions Dawn:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazarus Arisen
Its not where you might think.... leave Champions Dawn into Plains of Jarin, and hug the wall going round to the north of the portal I didn't have an opportunity to try that solution because just a few days ago I went out farming for collectibles for Wintersday goodies, and I thought I'd try just one more time to disperse that stubborn fog and VOILA... it disappeared... and it was just like Lazarus says... it wasn't from where I would have thought. I cleared the fog on the right... from the left.

I left Champion's Dawn from the Cliffs of Dohjok exit and headed north and hugged the wall until I came to a giant tree. I stood on one side of the tree (I think it was the left) for a couple of seconds and poof... my little bit of fog (which is the same little bit you still have) disappeared. I've attached a picture w/ the U-map in it. Try that and see if that won't get you to 100%. In the meantime I will scour your map one more time to see if I don't see another bit of fog somewhere.

Good luck and Happy New Year!

Relentless

Relentless

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Boston, MA

W/

30 Dec 2006 at 00:09 - 776
Hey lakatz... I tried what you said and what the other post said and I was able to get uncover that section! However I am still at 99.9% I am still looking as well...hopefully I get this title soon.

Thanks!

lakatz

lakatz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

30 Dec 2006 at 00:41 - 777
Hi again Relentless...

Well here it is (attached). I found four more small spots. This ought to do it. I'll just say gratz! now on your GMC title if you don't mind... but I would still love to see a picture of you wearing it.

Irma

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Warsaw, Poland

Laxigen Addicts [LaX]

30 Dec 2006 at 02:41 - 778
DONE!!!!!!!
finally i have my grand master cartographers!

- thanks to lakatz for checking my map (ive uncovered all spots before desolation to have my missing 0.6%), without your help i would not have this title

- thanks to Wobrak for helping me with tyrian map

- and last but not the least, thanks to livingston for great maps, tips and best guide to gmc, thats what inspired me to get my maps uncovered

again thanks to you all, i owe you spiked eggnogs!!!

cheers !!!

proof
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SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

30 Dec 2006 at 04:13 - 779
munnif: My map was made from U maps stitched together, no clouds that way. It is possible to do the difference method on a larger map, but you'll need to do it 6-7 times because it can never get lined up perfectly. Every U map will innevitibly be off a few pixels (for a reason I'll not get into for space's sake) from any other U map. Regardless, I still think the layer on/off method works the best (for both zoomed out M and U maps). Also, I'm fairly certain there is a 1440x900 zoomed out M map in the OP.

Niila: Your map was taken at 1280x1024 but imageshack resized it to 600x480. I don't know how to solve the resizing as I've never had to use imageshack or the like, but it is worthless resized.

Jebus marked

Livingston: I just came across this in the 3rd OP
Quote:
2) Are there any missions that you have to map, which do not have an explorable area?

Yes, the Remains of Sahlahja.

Here is a little mini-guide courtesy of Silent Vex for mapping this area:

1. Set up with a build to solo a lvl 20 blood necro and a couple running skills, enter mission.
2. Dance with the little girl, re-enact the fight, and kill the lady with the rare artifact (do the other 2 mini-games if you're going for bonus), and go talk to the princes.
3. After the cut scene, all the guards blocking the stairs will have left their posts to attack the Skree.

Now's your chance to simply run outside and explore the whole zone.

Dynastic Tombs is also only accessible through the Remains of Sahlahja challenge mission. You're mixing up Tihark Orchard and the challenge mission. Orchard can only be mapped that way if you have the Nightfallen Garden active (I still do since I'm too lazy to finish my protector title). Otherwise you can get it with Tahlkora. Dynastic Tombs is done with the wurms, and requires a whole different guide. I'm sure you know this now, and maybe just missed updating it (if not, play along ).

MrTickle

MrTickle

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

delete this account

N/

30 Dec 2006 at 04:26 - 780
I'd really appreciate some help with reaching GMC. I can't for the life of me find more than 97.5% with my Tyrian character. I've even been all around the Dynastic Tombs And I know 2.5% is a LOT of map not to find

I've posted my map on my own webspace HERE if someone would be so kind to help me

Thanks in advance. BTW I play at 1600 x 1200 so my map may be a little bigger than usual.

Livingston

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

[L] [GET]

30 Dec 2006 at 04:53 - 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by lakatz


Hi Livingston...

I'm not seeing a link to another thread in your post. Do you mean the "next thread" button below? I just discovered under advanced options yesterday that I can rate this thread which I did immediately of course w/ a 5-for-excellent of course because I do so appreciate this thread.

Please pardon my ignorance, but I'm relatively new here and just learning my way around this forum. I do appreciate your patience as well.

Thanks! Actually I removed the link but forgot to remove the text before it. ^_^

Thank you for voting for the thread though, and for the help that you are providing in here.

One of the updates on the OPs was directly related to you.

Livingston

Relentless

Relentless

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Boston, MA

W/

30 Dec 2006 at 05:29 - 782
Quote:
Originally Posted by lakatz
Hi again Relentless...

Well here it is (attached). I found four more small spots. This ought to do it. I'll just say gratz! now on your GMC title if you don't mind... but I would still love to see a picture of you wearing it. Here it is! Thanks for the help lakatz! If you need help with something give me a shout. And thanks to Livingston as well!

LOOK HERE!
vvvvvvvvv

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

30 Dec 2006 at 07:16 - 783
MrTickle marked

Man...I'd forgotten how long it takes to check a full U map. I think I'll stick with M maps from now on. Those go about 3 times faster.

Zeke_T_Freak

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Port Townsend WA

WSG [Whiskey Style Gaming]

N/

30 Dec 2006 at 07:41 - 784
Anyone get a chance to look at my map yet to get the 0.4% I need to get the GMC for Elona? N E 1?

Page 39, post #776

Jebus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium

Legion of Sacred Light [LSL]

W/

30 Dec 2006 at 08:45 - 785
Thanks a lot for marking my map, SilentVex.
That looks like 0.5%.

Niila

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

30 Dec 2006 at 10:08 - 786
Oh sorry, I also wondered why that image was so small. Now I converted it to jpg and it seems fine.

http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw218ol2.jpg

MrTickle

MrTickle

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

delete this account

N/

30 Dec 2006 at 11:59 - 787
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentVex
MrTickle marked

Man...I'd forgotten how long it takes to check a full U map. I think I'll stick with M maps from now on. Those go about 3 times faster. Wow that was a quick reply. I'm going to start now. Thank you very much for your time. I really appreciate the help

lakatz

lakatz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

30 Dec 2006 at 17:51 - 788
Congratulations Irma and Relentless! I'm so happy I was able to help!

Hi Livingston...

I read your updates, and I'm flattered. That was very kind of you. Actually what I've done here is giving back... you, Leighwyn, Sab, SilentVex, Jughis and so many I've failed to name here have given so much to me and so many other hopeful cartographers... I'm just giving back what I can.

Thanks again.

felinette

felinette

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Girl Power [GP]

Me/

30 Dec 2006 at 18:11 - 789
Well, guys and gals, I came here at 99.6%. Using the 100% maps and the technique in the OP (zoom in on U-map so it's same size as 100% map), I was able to find that last 0.4%. So thank you!

Elonian is the easiest GMC so far--if I was a local character, I wouldn't have needed help since the tutorial area would have put me over the top. But it's still a great accomplishment, and congrats to all other GMCs!

ErinElonianGMC.JPG

paulatpingu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Exeter, UK

SolBlades [Sol]

Mo/E

30 Dec 2006 at 18:41 - 790
Well, after some divine intervention from SilentVex, finding the last few 0.1% wasn't all that bad. In fact some of the bits I'd missed were frankly embarrassing...

Thankyou all for the help, congratulations to everyone who have got their GMC, and good luck to everyone else still working on it!

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

30 Dec 2006 at 18:55 - 791
Niila: Too low quality of a jpeg.

Zeke_T_Freke: I don't have a screenshot that resolution, and I can't get one for about a week here. The 4 screenshots in the first OP are the resolutions I have to work with until then.

lakatz: Thanks tons for your help. It makes things run a lot smoother for both ends. Plus, between finals and holidays it's been kinda awkward for me to be around as much.

paulatpingu: Very nice work, congrats.

Zeke_T_Freak

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Port Townsend WA

WSG [Whiskey Style Gaming]

N/

30 Dec 2006 at 19:51 - 792
What rez do you need cause I can bounce that one up. it was originally 8191x6143? I think so it can go up

UD44B

UD44B

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

[RAiD]

A/E

30 Dec 2006 at 20:16 - 793
Hi,

I need some help i'm stuck at 96%



Thanks in advance.

Niila

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

30 Dec 2006 at 20:43 - 794
Hehe, hope that third time says the truth!

http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=487rqt5

Jebus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium

Legion of Sacred Light [LSL]

W/

30 Dec 2006 at 21:07 - 795
Thanks A LOT Silent Vex, really, I owe you!

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

30 Dec 2006 at 21:35 - 796
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeke_T_Freak
What rez do you need cause I can bounce that one up. it was originally 8191x6143? I think so it can go up Just set your res at 1024x768 or 1280x1024 (or 1440x900 if you're on a widescreen) go to your zoomed out M map and take a shift+print screen. When you post it just make sure it's not a low quality jpg.

UD44B: When you hit at least 98% I'll take a look at your map. At 96% you could probably pick some more up by skirting just about any zone. Also, 120kb for a 1024 screenie is too low quality. It should be up around 200-250kb.

Niila marked

Jebus: Congrats dude.

Zeke_T_Freak

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Port Townsend WA

WSG [Whiskey Style Gaming]

N/

30 Dec 2006 at 22:39 - 797
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentVex
Just set your res at 1024x768 or 1280x1024 (or 1440x900 if you're on a widescreen) go to your zoomed out M map and take a shift+print screen. When you post it just make sure it's not a low quality jpg. Just an FYI, I always save as High qual 8 or better in Adobe (the one I posted is 300k), is always zoomed out and always do shift+print. I can do the lower rez of 1024x768 and I can do the higher rez of 1280x1024. I do know that the resolution I set these at on a regular basis of 1280x960 is excellent for most. Just let me know which you prefer.

Niila

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

30 Dec 2006 at 23:11 - 798
Thank you so much!

I am going for it..

Cowboy Nastyman

Cowboy Nastyman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Me/Mo

31 Dec 2006 at 01:13 - 799
I'm at 99.5% explore and stuck as to getting that last little bit heres a pic of my zoomed out map, please help

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9633/gw236cz1.jpg

thanks in advance

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

31 Dec 2006 at 03:43 - 800
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fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

31 Dec 2006 at 03:53 - 801
My map must have gotten skipped because it was pretty far back, so can someone check mine?

I'm stuck at 99.2%, here's my map (1024x768), cheers

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7567/989maper5.jpg

Zeke_T_Freak

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Port Townsend WA

WSG [Whiskey Style Gaming]

N/

31 Dec 2006 at 07:13 - 802
Okay here you go. This one is HIGH REZ. 1280x1024

Zeke at 99.6%