Mhenlo; Is there no escape?

heres how i think it goes:
Mhenlo is a playa who gets all the women
Cynn is a hoe
rurik is the guy who drops soap on purpose back in the guild hall showers

Haven't you figured it out yet? Mhenlo is THE bad guy, he keeps following you around checking the progress of his plans, and seeing to it that you don't ruin his plans for complete domination of all the continents. He let's you think you're doing something good, all the while he's guiding you to do his bidding. He "helps" you in such a way that he seems to be a good guy, all the while making sure you don't completely ruin his plans, or discover his agenda.

As far as Devona, Aiden and the others, they don't realize Mhenlo is such an evil mastermind and are just trying to help people.

Hey, if mhenlo wants to be a playa and gets all the girls, more power to him.
I'm not going to turn down a free monk and it was funny seeing how cynn reacts. Since that was the only time I see cynn, as I leave her in town always. Except for the palace. Danika and cynn
Let him do all the politicing, me and Devona here got better things to do. Well, that and killing things too

Mhenlo is the avatar of Abaddon.

Whatdya think?

u guys can keep menhlo i want my Aliesa back. dont know some thing about a hot little monky chic rushing forwards with no regards for herself just to make sure i have that little extra healling pat on my back. oh boy i miss those days

Mehnlo comes back, but some how Togo gets resurrected and tells Mehnlo “I’m your great, great, great, great, gran-ol’uncle, and I’m here to kill you.”

Lawlzorz, and so he can spam it down to 0 energy? Heal Other FTL...

read the manuscripts. it says that mhenlo's parents were a priest of dwayna and a priestess of balthazar, that means monks can.

yeh, monks can have affairs in game world but not in real world lol

Hrmm, wonder if Mhenlo & Co will be useable heroes?

"Hey number 4... Mhenlo... go stand there in the middle of that horde of corsair and take a Passive stance. Everyone else, follow me to safety!"

*Bangs head off desk*

NOOOO...Not MORE Mhenlo. He's such a noob! The number of missions I've failed because he saw fit to die and cause us mission failure... *cough* Raisu Palace *cough* Tahnnakai Temple *cough* Vizunah Square.

In the fourth chapter mhenlo initiates his plan for world domination...and what of his plan, I hear you asking, well lets see...

Mhenlo is actually a pimp in disguise and suddenly is cruising around in a low rider, running people over for 1000 damage, cynn, devona and eve become his hoes and he gets rich, which he uses to bribe all the assassins in cantha to kill all the leaders and he elects himself Ultimate Super Playa of the Universe. But then you, the hero, become a rival pimp and have to steal a lock of mhenlos hair (unfortunately for you, the hero, theres none on his head...) and lure all the hot chicks into your low rider, dethroning the evil mhenlo and thus the world being saved from the tyranny of Mhenlo the mega pimp.

Tell Gwen that Mhenlo broke his flute too. One too many visit from Gwen to Mhenlo for "confessions" should be able to land him in enough trouble so we dont see him for a while

I like Mhenlo, so I agree with those saying he was just a victim of the poor writing in Factions. Mhenlo and Cynn all the way.

But Aidan needs some screen time, too.

But Koss rocks as well. Big man with a fro. If he was voiced by Sammy J., it'd be no contest - he'd be the new pimp of Guild Wars.

*Insert obligatory Snakes on a Plane joke here.*

But my super team would Koss, Mhenlo, and Aidan, if Mhenlo and Aidan could ever be heroes.

Hell, if they ever decide to go back to Prophecies and modify it, they could make the Elite NPC's into heroes for the game. That'd give you five of them, and another good reason to go back and buy Prophecies if you haven't already.

They could also add a proper introduction for Eve, while they're at it, since she just kinda shows up with the others out of nowhere.

EDIT - And now that you mention Gwen... I want her to be a hero! Play that flute! @_@ Gwen FTW!

With all the playing-around Mhenlo does, you'd think we wouldn't have a shortage of monks. There should be little Mhenlo's *everywhere*...

I think you are refering to the next up comming Chapter: GRAND THEFT MHENLO: Gang Wars. Where we will get to see whats really going on in the slums of cantha with the gangs of Am Fah and the Jade brotherhood. What great uber Pwnage that will be.

You must be confusing him with Dunham.

Who cares about Mhenlo as long as he doesn't hit on my Tahlkora or else Btw anyone know the timeline for events that happened? Like Factions, Prophecies and Nightfall are they all happened at the same timeline period?

In the preview, all the Sunspear NPCs were making me feel like a total important badass. "That's right, I came up with a freakin' awesome battle plan, don't you forget it! Now fetch my coffee!"

Mhenlo seems to be quite popular among the girls in Cantha... makes you wonder what he was up to when he was still training to become a monk .

I kind of think Devona should get the spotlight again.. When i first started playing GW i always though Devona was kind of like a main character of the group. But yea, any other character taking the spotlight in Nightfall other than Mhenlo would be nice.

How about making Eve a central figure for once? Shurely she can be more then simple eye candy?

Alesia? Hot? *blink* *blink*

Yea, well, I think they really meant "Priest" or "Cleric", but probably figured "Monk" is less common and fits into the smiting them better.

I don't really mind that Mhenlo and gang (it really should be Devona and gang) are also in Elona. But as mentioned, they really shouldn't put them as the main characters. Having them play support roles should be the correct way. Something like letting them tackle the secondary stuffs, while the real heros tackle to critical missions and such.

But it might be nice to see some of the Factions henchmen in Elona too.

Don't see that happening. They were there to help Togo, with him dead they all returned home. The end

I'm I the only one that does not want to be the hero AKA the Chosen One AKA Keanu "Neo" Reeves? And on that point...did anyone here play the PS2 game Bard's Tale? That's who I want to play... That Snarky Bastard that gets the chicks and saves the day... but only saves the day when the reward is clearly stipulated in gold or services rendered (Princes: "I can read your mind. And if you rescue me, I will perform what you are thinking about right now, every day for the rest of your life")

Everyone in every game is always the hero. What's wrong with being a soldier. Better yet, an under-appreciated soldier?

On this note, I would like them to add options into GW to allow players to permanently kill - off certain henchies that we find annoying... in a most un-heroic way. Menhlo can grab the glory...but I would like the option to frag some of those henchies when they get a little too upity.

Yeah the ol' group of friends there, so that makes the most sense. They're plastered all over the GW franchise, official websites, wallpapers etc..

More Alesia!

Actually I'd go farther than that, one time I was busy and stepped away - I can't recall if I just waited at the beginning or at the gate for them to catch up (and clear all the level 1-2 non-aggro mantis they feel they had to fight), and of course the level 20 Togo and umm... that level 10? guy did there thing.

So I come back.. that level 10 is around, but Togo is DEAD. Something KILLED him. I have no freaking idea what and could never reproduce it or quite frankly even guess - a level 20 monk of ridiculous status. /shrug

But yeah all these goofballs get old, I thought so at the end of Factions - I get why the Luxons and Kurzicks are there but hearing the same kinda of prattle from the Ascalon core - I suppose as we have core classes, core skills, we also have core pains in the ... err NPCs.

And they'll even be that much worse/much less a factor as Nightfall HEROES totally supplant them. That's one reason I was hoping either a) I could use my own characters in such a manner b) they'd let us create our owns c) they'd let us chose from a [much] larger pool, arguably even the chapter flavor standouts (Nightfall unlocks chapter heroes) - ie you can enlist say a bored Danika striking out or you just decided you need Cynn, but this time she's USEFUL as you can keep her AOE/mob fleeing in check.

But not as henchy in some spots, but the heroes themselves.
Maybe future chapters then but quite frankly a pool of 12 from Nightfall across 10 classes? I'd guess at least the new classes would show up going forward - I'm just not sure of the way they did it. One choice may preclude another? More options/configurable/personal would have been better IMO.

And yay all my chars work with the same pool - that's a lot of Koss and Co.
In some ways I'd say hey, if Mhenlo is still around alright, but maybe toss him into the Hero pool at this point rather than the continued story runner, 'Mhenlo must survive', henchmen choice etc etc. As much as I agree with some of the dis, I'd much rather have him as a choice rather than some no-name Nightfall monk washout I'll now be saddled with repeatedly and indefinately. My monk, one of the NPC monks I've come across before, even one I could newly create to be that players hero >> that.

But that's only cosmetic and I'm looking forward to the functionality. Heroes have it so much more over anything else tho now - even your new, and arguably even over most if not all of your old, characters. The NPC whining wannabees we all know and like/love/hate/despise will simply even be that much more backseat chatter annoyances - story conveyance only, really. The heroes of old can only take a backseat to the hero system of new, and there's only a small pool to be had.

In some cases maybe borrowing as I suggested (rangers from Cantha I think I saw) but still IMO it didn't go far and deep enough. So seeing and using the same heroes over and over again across your chars and friends is meh (the 'copy' implementation strikes me as more than a bit lame lol) but I'm too jazzed about the gameplay to worry about it much yet. Just doesn't help shelf-life of their enjoyment, we'll find out how much it hurts it.

Sorry but True HERO's show humility. Mhenlo can have his day if he wants it. In this way when Abbadon returns and wants to know who was it that foiled his plans I can point at Mhenlo and say "there he is my new Master." Thus the result of always ending up with sloppy seconds from Mhenlo's presance.

In all seriousness however.

In the PvE Beta of Nighfall I never felt second to any HERO with me. I was the Leader and thus who I chose became important and who was left out of an adventure.

I hope Mhenlo and his friends do appear in Nightfall It would be nice have them as HERO options.

tbh, I despise the concept of Nightfall. In prohpecies you started as a common soldier fresh from your village who just happened to gain the ear of the prince. When hte hist hits the fan the unlikely hero (player character) steps up to the plate to meet the challenge. And no one was playing to second fiddle to anyone else, you are all even against one common foe. even though that foe seems to change all the time (plot twists ftw) Awesome perspective there.

Factions, storyline just plain sucked... I agree with everyone in the thread who said something along the lines of "I want to be the hero dammit!"

Nightfall, you start out as a commander, you know everything, all the npc's take your orders. WTF! Seems like an over-correction here. Heroes will just be splitting the focus of the player (and discouraging group play, but thats for a different topic). Also, flaming will increase (My Koss is better you noob, my koss has 1337 skillz, my Koss has a complete set of victo's stuff! My koss is rank 12). I just don't liek the perspective of it. I would much rather be the common soldier who works his way to the top than BAM! You're a commander. For this reason alone, I will not be purchasing Nightfall, and I hope Anet reads this -_- doubtful, but I can hope

Yeah, but how many times do you think that should happen for each bew chapter? If every chapter is going to have you start out as some unlikely hero discovering their hero-hood (or whatever), that too will get old. Not to mention the unlikely hero plotline is very common among RPG games in general, from half of the Final Fantasy to Chrono Trigger. I like being the leader of a unit of troops. Its something a little different. Kinda like Final Fantasy four, where you play a former commander of an air brigade, or even Final fantasy 7 where you play a former elite SOLIDIER (until the revelation, anyhow).

And while you might be considered a hero on Istan, you might not get the same welcome when you get to the mainland. You just kinda got wait and see what happens.

But being a ranking military officer is kinda cool.

Nightfall closes this 'trilogy' of games. It's all about tieing the Flameseeker Prophecies and Shiros Return to Abaddon. Since we had Cynn, Aidan, Mhenlo and Devona in Prophecies and Factions, it's only logical to assume they would help in the end of their story as well. The next expansion will likely be new NPCs starting a new 'trilogy'.

It was being done as trilogy? I didn't know that. Was this something from a long time ago? Where is discussed?

That's most likely just a personal opinion. I think all Anet mentioned was that Nightfall's storyline was meant to tie up some loose ends in the previous 2 campaigns.

There is some chatter in blurbs about nightfall wrapping up the series to date.
Sounds like a god-clash or some-such.
All that stuff you did before didn't cut it

For chapter 4 they launch us into space =D

I was kinda hoping to smack an "Afflicted Mhenlo" somewhere in Factions, but I'm starting to get the feeling ANet really likes this character, so I've stopped hoping.

Moral of the story in guildwars

Monks get in groups easy
Monks are adored for their "great healing" even when they suck :P
Monks are the best farmers
Monks get the hero plot

Basicly everyone loves monks

Not Mhenlo We hate him cuz hes ugly and hogs the story, and he does NOTHING for u, he just runs places like NPCs from 1946

i dont know why everyone hates mehnlo so, compared to togo he's a saint

Izzy's character "Isaiah Cartwright" is a monk. Coincidence? I think not!

No...Cultist henchies steal my corpses!! They do stuff like Putrid Explosion at the worst damned times. Like when I'm casting Well of Blood to save everyone's butts or when I want to make Minions for the baddies to ravage while I cast Hexes on them.

I was kinda hoping that Cynn in a huge fit of rage over Mhenlo's not-so-subtle past with Jamei might just firestorm the bastard.

Alas, she didn't.