Sword or Axe?
Timore
I started out with a sword then i got a good axe from a friend and have been using them. But i like the look of the sword a lot more and i like a lot of the skills for the sword. I know i can do more dmg per sec at 11 axe then with a sword but that not with skills. I am wondering what i can get the most dmg out of it and some good skills go along. i also having probs with good elite axe skills. this is a pve char later in gvg if you think you can help me plz do.
Goraxe The Great
I would go with a axe more like a Sephis axe they have a sweet skin and there rare for a good one with low req 600k+ but it woth it and axes are better i thank.
Timore
ya lol i dont have 600k
Goraxe The Great
what class are you and what armor do you have? i have a Fellblade perfect and a Chaos axe Perfect i might sell really cheap tell me how mush u have.
Marty Silverblade
Razorstone is a good max green sephis axe, you can get them for about 18k.
Goraxe The Great
yeah i just looked at Razorstone and there great axes thats what i would get cheap and same skin as Sephis 15^50 req 9 10/10 good axe but its green and you cant dye it.
Timore
i have around 40k+ abd ny only source of money if droks run and i have pl8 amour
Goraxe The Great
i would get a bladed shield and a Razorstone axe that would look cool with
pl8 mail armor.
pl8 mail armor.
Age
Swords and Axes do the same amount of damage axes are good for spikeing and swords are good for pressure.You will get the same result though.Don't let me get Savio.
Timore
ok i think i will stick with axes what about elite skills and good skills that go with them?
Goraxe The Great
do you want to no what are good skills?
kazjun
Don't know about good, but for me, I use triple chop against pve mobs and eviserate against pve bosses and in pvp. Though if you're just questing or playing through the missions, go with triple. Save evis for farming bosses, not general travel. Wings axe is good with triple and cyclone and he's easy to farm, or you can buy for like 10k or so. Not a bad skin either.
Flashy
The damage from Axe and Sword is not the same 
The Axe can deal lower damage then a Sword but can aslo deal higher damage
Axe 6 - 28
Sword 15 - 22
The overal damage of sword is probably higher cause both normal hits and critical hits deal around the samage damage...
An Axe can deal immense low damage but also very high damage...
I prever Axe just for the skills and totally agree that Sword is more for Pressure and Axe for Spiking.
It just depends on what you like more, its not that Axe is like the best weapon but if you wanna take down enemies rather then supporting your team you should go for Axe... If you wanna go for Sword and take down then the best attacks you can take are the +40 damage attacks like Silverwing, and you might wanna take Sun and Moon Slash...
If you wanna stick with supporting your team and pressure the oppisit Monks you should go for Sever Artery and Gash and Sun and Moon Slash and some interrupts
The Axe can deal lower damage then a Sword but can aslo deal higher damage
Axe 6 - 28
Sword 15 - 22
The overal damage of sword is probably higher cause both normal hits and critical hits deal around the samage damage...
An Axe can deal immense low damage but also very high damage...
I prever Axe just for the skills and totally agree that Sword is more for Pressure and Axe for Spiking.
It just depends on what you like more, its not that Axe is like the best weapon but if you wanna take down enemies rather then supporting your team you should go for Axe... If you wanna go for Sword and take down then the best attacks you can take are the +40 damage attacks like Silverwing, and you might wanna take Sun and Moon Slash...
If you wanna stick with supporting your team and pressure the oppisit Monks you should go for Sever Artery and Gash and Sun and Moon Slash and some interrupts
A Leprechaun
triple chop rocks in pve and its easy to cap
Rera
With no skills, axe actually has higher DPS than sword due to critical hits. People have run the numbers.
Triple chop + cyclone axe destroys crowds. Sword combos are higher single-target DPS than pretty much anything axe has to offer.
Triple chop + cyclone axe destroys crowds. Sword combos are higher single-target DPS than pretty much anything axe has to offer.
LightningHell
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Originally Posted by Flashy
The damage from Axe and Sword is not the same
The Axe can deal lower damage then a Sword but can aslo deal higher damage
Axe 6 - 28
Sword 15 - 22
The overal damage of sword is probably higher cause both normal hits and critical hits deal around the samage damage...
An Axe can deal immense low damage but also very high damage...
I prever Axe just for the skills and totally agree that Sword is more for Pressure and Axe for Spiking.
It just depends on what you like more, its not that Axe is like the best weapon but if you wanna take down enemies rather then supporting your team you should go for Axe... If you wanna go for Sword and take down then the best attacks you can take are the +40 damage attacks like Silverwing, and you might wanna take Sun and Moon Slash...
If you wanna stick with supporting your team and pressure the oppisit Monks you should go for Sever Artery and Gash and Sun and Moon Slash and some interrupts
I think you have some things mistaken.
Criticals are calculated as a maximum attack at four attribute ranks higher. So, if you hit for a critical at 16 Axe Mastery, the critical would be what the maximum damage would be at 20 Axe Mastery. I think.
If that's right, Axe has a higher overall damage.
The Axe can deal lower damage then a Sword but can aslo deal higher damage
Axe 6 - 28
Sword 15 - 22
The overal damage of sword is probably higher cause both normal hits and critical hits deal around the samage damage...
An Axe can deal immense low damage but also very high damage...
I prever Axe just for the skills and totally agree that Sword is more for Pressure and Axe for Spiking.
It just depends on what you like more, its not that Axe is like the best weapon but if you wanna take down enemies rather then supporting your team you should go for Axe... If you wanna go for Sword and take down then the best attacks you can take are the +40 damage attacks like Silverwing, and you might wanna take Sun and Moon Slash...
If you wanna stick with supporting your team and pressure the oppisit Monks you should go for Sever Artery and Gash and Sun and Moon Slash and some interrupts
Criticals are calculated as a maximum attack at four attribute ranks higher. So, if you hit for a critical at 16 Axe Mastery, the critical would be what the maximum damage would be at 20 Axe Mastery. I think.
If that's right, Axe has a higher overall damage.
Bruce Brutal
hmm... chaos axe looks nice, but some swords realy look wicked, but the chaos axe is realy unique i think, i have one almost perfect :P 15% while enchanted, vamp perfect and fortitude 29 :P
Age
It is the same all over only hammer do a slightly more damage with KD.
Timore
thanks for all the help every one i think i will go axe pve and sword pvp gvg so on time to look up some good axe guilds
Franco
I wish i could go back in time and instead of having chosen a fow warrior helm having chosen a fow axe helm. Strongly advice you to go axe. Much better in my opinion and axes look better then swords aswel.
Chaos, Dwarven , Sephis, Gothic, Dual gothic etc. Beat any sword imo
Chaos, Dwarven , Sephis, Gothic, Dual gothic etc. Beat any sword imo
Age
Swords look way better on Female Warriors some Axes do to.
Franco
maybe thats why i like axe more... Just think swords are girly
Timore
now thats very nice i do like the look of most sword better but there those axes that just blow away the look of swords
Johno77
Don't use Sword or Axe, use Sword AND Axe - hammer too. The good thing about GW is the variation, you get more out of the game the more different options you try. Likewise, change secondary profession regularly - try Wa/* anything else depending on what you are doing. There are no useless combos in GW, just some things are better than others for specific situations.
The Real Roy Keane
There is so much misinformation in this thread (as there always is in Swords vs Axes debates) that it hurts me. Search back through the thirty-six or so threads on the exact same topic and dig out the little nuggets of wisdom hidden amongst the dross.
Timore
yes ur right but when u search u get a lot of useless crap as well making harder and where is the best place to by there things?
I Brother Bloood I
I use all 3 and if it was a choice id say hammer. The shield was nerfed to only physical defense so its not as bad with a hammer now. I dont know what this has to do with skins but id say if it came to dmg hammer, sword/axe are tied. why? axe has destructive chop in nightfall wich is definatley the final thrust of axes. swords have a NON elite skill that rivals destructive chop and eviscerate thus making it possible to use utility elites (charge bulls charge w/e). Hammer is definatley the highest dps wich people know and thats why they use it in spikes. If it came down to skins then id say sword has the cooler skin (plagueborn sword notice this is an AFFORDABLE skin) axes are also cool they got razorstone which kinda makes sephis axes pointless to get. the coolest skin which is definatley in the affordable region now is kanaxais axe. people say that tribal axe and dwarven axes are cool in this thread... WHO HERE ACTUALLY HAS ONE!!! and when it comes to hammers break hammers are a nice sleek skin wich u can get from a collector mursaat hammers arnt to hard to get either.
Don Zardeone
1. Don't use what looks cool, only use what WORKS
1.1. Make sure your weapon is max damage, has 15^50 and is customised. Buy these weapons at weaponcrafters in droknars forge or kaineng center for 5k from the weapon NPC crafter
2. Just hitting stuff while using no skills will show you that axes do more damage than swords because of the criticals that are added. This is true for 16 sword vs 16 axe mastery. Using 11 or anything less than 14 means you're not a warrior or you're using a weird farmingbuild. If you add skills to the damage then you'll see that both weapons perform similarly.
2.1. In PvE you'll notice that axes might be more interesting because triple chop or other axe attacks don't fit into a specialised combo. You can use them in whatever order you like and if one misses then there's no problem. With Swords however, I noticed that a lot of builds rely on getting that special hit in, making sure the target is bleeding or hoping that your dragonslash won't miss. Imo, you rely much too heavily on skills to keep up your DPS when using swords while with axes you seem to simply be slaughtering things with triple chop or cyclone axes...
** ok it doesn't NEED to be 15^50. 15stanced or enchanted will work too but you'd have to keep that condition up...
1.1. Make sure your weapon is max damage, has 15^50 and is customised. Buy these weapons at weaponcrafters in droknars forge or kaineng center for 5k from the weapon NPC crafter
2. Just hitting stuff while using no skills will show you that axes do more damage than swords because of the criticals that are added. This is true for 16 sword vs 16 axe mastery. Using 11 or anything less than 14 means you're not a warrior or you're using a weird farmingbuild. If you add skills to the damage then you'll see that both weapons perform similarly.
2.1. In PvE you'll notice that axes might be more interesting because triple chop or other axe attacks don't fit into a specialised combo. You can use them in whatever order you like and if one misses then there's no problem. With Swords however, I noticed that a lot of builds rely on getting that special hit in, making sure the target is bleeding or hoping that your dragonslash won't miss. Imo, you rely much too heavily on skills to keep up your DPS when using swords while with axes you seem to simply be slaughtering things with triple chop or cyclone axes...
** ok it doesn't NEED to be 15^50. 15stanced or enchanted will work too but you'd have to keep that condition up...
Age
What about 100 blades though and sun and the moon?Then you could look here
Pure Healer
Ok, Im reading theses posts, and I need help. This is my first time actulley being Damage dealing Proffesion. I am not new to GW at all! I have always just been Healer. So, now it's time for me to take action.
Just made a new Character, W/Mo. She is new, so am I. I got her to lvl 10, and Im still on Island. I have farmed some REALLY good green and purple hammers, but I am currently using a sword. Are Hammers/axes even good, I never see ppl use them.
I only have points in Swordsmanship, and Strength. Im totally new to this Proffesion, let alone dealing damage to foes. I need help, obviously.
I just want to e able to take damage, while more of it in return.
I want a tanking build, but...not sure what a Tank truly implies.
Age
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Originally Posted by Pure Healer
Ok, Im reading theses posts, and I need help. This is my first time actulley being Damage dealing Proffesion. I am not new to GW at all! I have always just been Healer. So, now it's time for me to take action.
Just made a new Character, W/Mo. She is new, so am I. I got her to lvl 10, and Im still on Island. I have farmed some REALLY good green and purple hammers, but I am currently using a sword. Are Hammers/axes even good, I never see ppl use them.
I only have points in Swordsmanship, and Strength. Im totally new to this Proffesion, let alone dealing damage to foes. I need help, obviously.
I just want to e able to take damage, while more of it in return.
I want a tanking build, but...not sure what a Tank truly implies. Just like the Monk forum look through the sticky Warrior basics.
kazjun
Destructive chop in pve? At least final thrust only empties adren, destructive
empties the whole energy bar too. I know you can get away with pretty much anything in pve, but going around with one big attack only doesn't seem very efficient. The only time you'd need something like that would be for spiking targets, and you hardly need that in pve. That's why I think triple chop is better than evis in pve. Unless you're farming bosses that is.
empties the whole energy bar too. I know you can get away with pretty much anything in pve, but going around with one big attack only doesn't seem very efficient. The only time you'd need something like that would be for spiking targets, and you hardly need that in pve. That's why I think triple chop is better than evis in pve. Unless you're farming bosses that is.
LightningHell
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Originally Posted by kazjun
Destructive chop in pve? At least final thrust only empties adren, destructive
empties the whole energy bar too. I know you can get away with pretty much anything in pve, but going around with one big attack only doesn't seem very efficient. The only time you'd need something like that would be for spiking targets, and you hardly need that in pve. That's why I think triple chop is better than evis in pve. Unless you're farming bosses that is. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeapon swap.
empties the whole energy bar too. I know you can get away with pretty much anything in pve, but going around with one big attack only doesn't seem very efficient. The only time you'd need something like that would be for spiking targets, and you hardly need that in pve. That's why I think triple chop is better than evis in pve. Unless you're farming bosses that is. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeapon swap.
Zui
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Originally Posted by LightningHell
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeapon swap.
This is PvE. There is no weapon swapping in PvE, no matter how much sense it makes. Autoattack and/or spam keys 1-8 FTW.
LightningHell
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Originally Posted by Zui
This is PvE. There is no weapon swapping in PvE, no matter how much sense it makes. Autoattack and/or spam keys 1-8 FTW.
And let me guess, Sundering >>>>>>> Vampiric because it's 183978734k more expensive and it sounds so damn cool?
Timore
whats going on? what r u talking about? wep swap and weapon swapping ??
Gigashadow
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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I
I use all 3 and if it was a choice id say hammer. The shield was nerfed to only physical defense so its not as bad with a hammer now.
Shields were not nerfed to be physical damage only.
Only the part that now specifically states something like "-2 physical damage received (while in a stance)" was nerfed. Not the 16ar base of the shield.
Only the part that now specifically states something like "-2 physical damage received (while in a stance)" was nerfed. Not the 16ar base of the shield.
I Brother Bloood I
Hammers still do a gajillion more dmg who cares about shield when the other guy is dead...
LightningHell
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Originally Posted by Timore
whats going on? what r u talking about? wep swap and weapon swapping ??
Having two sets of weapons and swapping to each when different situations occur.
Timore
oh thanks