Godlike Satan's Solo Smite Runner
Tainek
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Originally Posted by Black Destroyer
i ALWAYS get rended, so i get rended around 3-5 times in the room...
it's to dangerous to kill the nighmares with your wand if im awake (read: not 4 AM) the only groups that rend me are dual spawns, and i Never get killed by them
just because you cant, doesnt mean its hard
it's to dangerous to kill the nighmares with your wand if im awake (read: not 4 AM) the only groups that rend me are dual spawns, and i Never get killed by them
just because you cant, doesnt mean its hard
Xethrion
You run then recast PS, or time your PS such that it goes up after you get rended? Just curious on method.
SluggyTheZealot
i've had no problems running as described in the original post to get some distance in between me and the aataxe to get a new ps up.
Black Destroyer
yea but it's takes so long for my energy to get back up ^^
Kcp
Energy problems? From what?
You shouldn't have any enrgy problems with E.B and B.S., not to mention the 4 pts in soul reaping.
Once rended you have 4 pips of regen, thats more then enough regen to keep PS, and SB up until you can get everything recasted safely.
You shouldn't have any enrgy problems with E.B and B.S., not to mention the 4 pts in soul reaping.
Once rended you have 4 pips of regen, thats more then enough regen to keep PS, and SB up until you can get everything recasted safely.
Slainster
Guess who i spotted this weekend 
NuclearGoat
Lol @Slainster.
Nice guide Godlike I'm going to try this out.
Nice guide Godlike
I'm going to try this out.
Kcp
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Originally Posted by Slainster
Guess who i spotted this weekend
Easy lucky title just in case it does something usefull in nightfall. I was camped in dist 5 on that same ring for like 2 days afk.
I'm only like 84 rares from devourer of wisdom, dumb games making me waste time towards other things
Easy lucky title just in case it does something usefull in nightfall. I was camped in dist 5 on that same ring for like 2 days afk.I'm only like 84 rares from devourer of wisdom, dumb games making me waste time towards other things
Xethrion
Hmm.. idle observation, isit just me, or has America been bucking up in the HoH lately? We never used to have favour, and I almost switched to Europe because of that, but now, America seems to be improving, in terms of the number of hours they hold Halls o.o
Bob Aeclucen
KCP you rock. This build is great. Finally someone explains a clear and simple way to deal with the Dying Nightmares, all the other builds on the forum tell you to wand them without giving you any alternatives, by running and letting them rend themselves to death you can easily deal with double spawns. The squids kill me, but that's just my lack of practice. And.. Benton FTW!! ... lol Thanks again for the great guide.
Anarion Silverhand
I'm having major problems taking down aatxes 1 on 1. Any suggestions?
Kcp
Anarion whenever it's just you and 1 aatxe you can either try to lure it to more aatxe to speed the killing along, or you can try to take it out 1 vs 1. Use your melee weapon with enchant mod and continually attack the aatxe triggering the ripostes. Only use spirit bond when your life gets in the teens. Get the one savage slash triggered and you should be able to get 2 ss's on it to drop it if you re-hex the aatxe at around 1/2 life. Really no need to use reckless haste in a 1 vs 1 situation since it screws with your energy gain.
Personally I try to group everything up for faster kills and better energy management while doing so. Usually I only leave 1 aatxe at the top of the staircase since it doesn't pull very well with the others in the first chamber. It will however pull into the second chamber if you hug the wall on your left and run into the last chamber with the staircase to the smites. The aatxe will act like it's going to go back to it's original position then turn around and follow you into the last chamber with the other 4 aatxe. Sometimes it will not follow you to the last 4 aatxe but it's no big deal.
Personally I try to group everything up for faster kills and better energy management while doing so. Usually I only leave 1 aatxe at the top of the staircase since it doesn't pull very well with the others in the first chamber. It will however pull into the second chamber if you hug the wall on your left and run into the last chamber with the staircase to the smites. The aatxe will act like it's going to go back to it's original position then turn around and follow you into the last chamber with the other 4 aatxe. Sometimes it will not follow you to the last 4 aatxe but it's no big deal.
Koning
I also never use RH when only 2 aatxe's are attacking me, it screws my energy like when only 1 is attacking.
Arangja
OK KCP 1stly thx for sharing this with us m8 
much appreciated
I threw 20K at it last night, and yes lol before you ask I did read you guidelines and watched your videos several times, the nightmares is my biggest pain, but only after i read a bit further than just the guide I realized why the 1 nightmare always gets me lol (Wand not customized
)
So yea I will give it a go again tonight, then if I start running low on cash then ill just use my warrior to get some shards and try again lol
I can see the potential and I can see it works like a dream the couple of times I got the aatxes without the nightmares nooooooooooo problem they drop fast.
I do sometimes still forget to select the last from the three lol so when I tab + space lol i hit the aatxe ( me bad)
But ace m8 this is an awsome build, and I will give it some more testing
much appreciatedI threw 20K at it last night, and yes lol before you ask I did read you guidelines and watched your videos several times, the nightmares is my biggest pain, but only after i read a bit further than just the guide I realized why the 1 nightmare always gets me lol (Wand not customized
)So yea I will give it a go again tonight, then if I start running low on cash then ill just use my warrior to get some shards and try again lol
I can see the potential and I can see it works like a dream the couple of times I got the aatxes without the nightmares
nooooooooooo problem they drop fast.I do sometimes still forget to select the last from the three lol so when I tab + space lol i hit the aatxe (
me bad)But ace m8 this is an awsome build, and I will give it some more testing
Bloodied Blade
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Originally Posted by Anarion Silverhand
I'm having major problems taking down aatxes 1 on 1. Any suggestions?
Pull it into another mob of stuff, your energy management will be fine.
Black Destroyer
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Originally Posted by Kcp
Energy problems? From what?
You shouldn't have any enrgy problems with E.B and B.S., not to mention the 4 pts in soul reaping.
Once rended you have 4 pips of regen, thats more then enough regen to keep PS, and SB up until you can get everything recasted safely. so when you get rended, you recast SB and PS on you and you let the aaxta beat on you? and in the meanwhile you try to recast EB, BS and mending?
You shouldn't have any enrgy problems with E.B and B.S., not to mention the 4 pts in soul reaping.
Once rended you have 4 pips of regen, thats more then enough regen to keep PS, and SB up until you can get everything recasted safely. so when you get rended, you recast SB and PS on you and you let the aaxta beat on you? and in the meanwhile you try to recast EB, BS and mending?
Xethrion
No.. when you get rended, you recast PS and SB, IN THAT ORDER, then run to the safe spot to recast your maintained enchants.
No point trying to recast them when aatxes with savage slash are beating on you. Well, no point if you're trying to actually get them on you, and not just lure Savage Slashes out.
No point trying to recast them when aatxes with savage slash are beating on you. Well, no point if you're trying to actually get them on you, and not just lure Savage Slashes out.
Anarion Silverhand
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Originally Posted by Bloodied Blade
Pull it into another mob of stuff, your energy management will be fine.
That was the problem.. It was the only mob there.. The graspings got stuck on the cow, and naturally I put SS on the aatxe and watched the graspings drop. Only problem was, I couldn't take down the aatxe solo. The aggro was screwed. I broke the aggro, but when I went near the exit to the ice wastes, the aatxe started running toward me.. Just wondering if there was a special trick to it..
Kcp
If the aatxe and last set of squids get stuck at the top of the staircase this is what I do.
There will be 1-2 squids that become stuck slightly below the top of the stairs while the other squids get stuck on the aatxe.
Hex the closest squid with spiteful, then tab to the aatxe, proceed to ignore the original squids that are already beating on you and hex the aatxe with SS the second it is recharged. Now walk backwards a bit to line them up for SS AoE. Squids will die fast, and the aatxe will be left with 1/4-1/3 life. Proceed to lure the aatxe to the remaining four in the last chamber skipping the last 2-3 squids in that room.
Or you can try this. Aggro the aatxe and squids, then proceed to run back down stairs. THe aatxe will turn around and so will the squids after a certain distance. Both will resume their patrols normally. Pick the squids off and continue to the smite level when their patrol brings them back to you.
There will be 1-2 squids that become stuck slightly below the top of the stairs while the other squids get stuck on the aatxe.
Hex the closest squid with spiteful, then tab to the aatxe, proceed to ignore the original squids that are already beating on you and hex the aatxe with SS the second it is recharged. Now walk backwards a bit to line them up for SS AoE. Squids will die fast, and the aatxe will be left with 1/4-1/3 life. Proceed to lure the aatxe to the remaining four in the last chamber skipping the last 2-3 squids in that room.
Or you can try this. Aggro the aatxe and squids, then proceed to run back down stairs. THe aatxe will turn around and so will the squids after a certain distance. Both will resume their patrols normally. Pick the squids off and continue to the smite level when their patrol brings them back to you.
Arangja
OK I'm starting to figure out the nightmares and getting them killed nice and easy now the darknesses is no problem and the aatxes are fine too, I still do silly mistakes here and there but in general awesome
I got 2 ectos yesterday so all the money that I spent on getting to know this build is gonna be repaid soon
My biggest mistakes atm is that I try and cast mending or ss when SB has ran out and the 2 second cast time is too much for my 55 hp too handle, but thats just my mistakes and my timing that sucks lol
the darknesses is no problem and the aatxes are fine too, I still do silly mistakes here and there but in general awesome I got 2 ectos yesterday so all the money that I spent on getting to know this build is gonna be repaid soon
My biggest mistakes atm is that I try and cast mending or ss when SB has ran out and the 2 second cast time is too much for my 55 hp too handle, but thats just my mistakes and my timing that sucks lol
Bloodied Blade
Well, now you have to use healing breeze. SB got nerfed. You also can't pull more than like 3 at a time (any more than 3 and the excess run away).
Xxalon Tacotu
Any ideas for an update today ???
Energy and damage management just went to sh**.
Spirit Bond just got "tweaked", so that it runs out after EITHER 8 seconds OR you get hit 10 times. With 3 Aatxe, I need to constantly cast SB after every skill (i.e. Mending, SB, Mending, SB, Mending, SB, SS, SB, RH, SB, etc...)
This will only get worse with Smites. Pull a group of 10, and you will only have SB for ONE attack. I hope this is just a "slight nerf", requiring a tweak to the build, rather than a complete rebuild.
Maybe there'll be a Nightfall skill that will compensate ?????
Energy and damage management just went to sh**.
Spirit Bond just got "tweaked", so that it runs out after EITHER 8 seconds OR you get hit 10 times. With 3 Aatxe, I need to constantly cast SB after every skill (i.e. Mending, SB, Mending, SB, Mending, SB, SS, SB, RH, SB, etc...)
This will only get worse with Smites. Pull a group of 10, and you will only have SB for ONE attack. I hope this is just a "slight nerf", requiring a tweak to the build, rather than a complete rebuild.
Maybe there'll be a Nightfall skill that will compensate ?????
Xxalon Tacotu
OK. HB it is then.
Total change around in the run though.
Aatxes are easiest (they keep attacking), Graspings are OK apart from 1 of them "standing off", then having to be dealt with separately.
Smites are TOTALLY different though. Not only do they break off their attack to avoid AoE damage from SS, but they ROTATE as well. Each smite will take a break in turn, to allow itself to heal while the others take damage.
I just took on a group of 7, and couldn't drop them. As fast as SS did the damage, 3 of them would run (each in a different direction) to the edge of aggro. They would thek keep casting Smite Hex, but without taking damage.
When they healed sufficiently, they ran back in, and a different 3 would do the same.
I would like to see anyone do a "quick" run of UW now (although I got 2 ecto from the Aatxes, so it's not all bad).
Total change around in the run though.
Aatxes are easiest (they keep attacking), Graspings are OK apart from 1 of them "standing off", then having to be dealt with separately.
Smites are TOTALLY different though. Not only do they break off their attack to avoid AoE damage from SS, but they ROTATE as well. Each smite will take a break in turn, to allow itself to heal while the others take damage.
I just took on a group of 7, and couldn't drop them. As fast as SS did the damage, 3 of them would run (each in a different direction) to the edge of aggro. They would thek keep casting Smite Hex, but without taking damage.
When they healed sufficiently, they ran back in, and a different 3 would do the same.
I would like to see anyone do a "quick" run of UW now (although I got 2 ecto from the Aatxes, so it's not all bad).
SluggyTheZealot
if the smites have that kinda ai now thats actually really impressive
Xxalon Tacotu
I agree that it's impressive, but it also ruins the game for those of us who were just starting to earn ecto towards FOW armour.
Ecto prices have already jumped from 6.5k to 8k, and that's in just 3 hours.
I currently have just 18 ecto toward my armour, but with no way to make enough money to buy more and the method of farming it nerfed - I might just hold on to them until ecto prices go WAY up, and sell them.
That will be the only way to make any money under this new update.
Ecto prices have already jumped from 6.5k to 8k, and that's in just 3 hours.
I currently have just 18 ecto toward my armour, but with no way to make enough money to buy more and the method of farming it nerfed - I might just hold on to them until ecto prices go WAY up, and sell them.
That will be the only way to make any money under this new update.
boxterduke
^^^
Ectos were 11k last night just an hour after the patch.
Ectos were 11k last night just an hour after the patch.
SluggyTheZealot
yea i just sold 30 ecto for 6.5k/per a couple days ago :P woops!
Eric_Et
eh just when i was learning the run....
Xxalon Tacotu
Eric. Don't give up just yet.
This run is still doable, just slower. I think I went over the top with my "no way to make enough money......"
I am still having more luck with using SB than with switching to HB, as if HB gets stuffed twice by the Aatxes, then you die even when you get it up the third time, because of its slow regen. So I just live with the short timespan and high energy cost of Spirit Bond.
However, one option is to ditch Reckless Haste, and to equip HB in slot 2, SB in slot 3 and move SS to slot 4.
Your casting regime then becomes - PS, HB. If HB gets stuffed, hit SB (for instant health regen), then HB again once it recharges.
I've not tested this yet, but I am sure that it will work.
The other option is what I have been doing so far (and I have dropped another 3 ecto since my last post). That is just stick to the original build, but having to recast SB every 2 to 3 seconds.
HTH.
This run is still doable, just slower. I think I went over the top with my "no way to make enough money......"
I am still having more luck with using SB than with switching to HB, as if HB gets stuffed twice by the Aatxes, then you die even when you get it up the third time, because of its slow regen. So I just live with the short timespan and high energy cost of Spirit Bond.
However, one option is to ditch Reckless Haste, and to equip HB in slot 2, SB in slot 3 and move SS to slot 4.
Your casting regime then becomes - PS, HB. If HB gets stuffed, hit SB (for instant health regen), then HB again once it recharges.
I've not tested this yet, but I am sure that it will work.
The other option is what I have been doing so far (and I have dropped another 3 ecto since my last post). That is just stick to the original build, but having to recast SB every 2 to 3 seconds.
HTH.
Xxalon Tacotu
Has anyone figured a more reliable way to drop the Graspings yet ????
They have become the toughest opponent in UW for me right now (particularly the first group).
Almost invariably, the 1 that breaks aggro out of the 4 that attack is the one that I stuck SS on. Therefore the rest suffer zero damage, and at some point will stuff my Prot Spirit, and I die.
They are owning me almost every time (I mean like 9 times out of 10 that I reach them, I get no further).
Fortunately, the Aatxes are dropping ecto anyway, but I'm not even reaching the Smites.
Can anyone offer any help/guidance ??
They have become the toughest opponent in UW for me right now (particularly the first group).
Almost invariably, the 1 that breaks aggro out of the 4 that attack is the one that I stuck SS on. Therefore the rest suffer zero damage, and at some point will stuff my Prot Spirit, and I die.
They are owning me almost every time (I mean like 9 times out of 10 that I reach them, I get no further).
Fortunately, the Aatxes are dropping ecto anyway, but I'm not even reaching the Smites.
Can anyone offer any help/guidance ??
Emik
How does Shield of Absorbtion counter the SB nerf?
darrengordon
SOA counters it perfectly, just make sure you have a 20% enchant weapon 30% enchant spell, trble is if you get interupted your screwed as it has a long recharge so take something to stop that. I thinks its better than SB as u no longer need 55 health i use 135 at the mo but i guess 200 would be better and also it dosnt matter on armor so i use max armor and you dont have to swap weapons now as you can take a max damage weapon ie staff with 20% enchant mod, i guess one way to do it now would be IW with sythe but i would imagine it would be slow, that way though when they run u just follow em and dice the litte buggers.
Still not sure though dont bother with it as playing NF at the mo, used to live in UW lolm, if i do i run a hybrid dual trap build, you can lay enough traps to kill attax in 30 secs and onto next group, u dont use spirits so you dont have to wait for recharge so i guess it works ok and when you get to smites you just pull the whole screen as normal so it prob is the quickest method now on a whole smite run i guess. I miss the old 55/ss days though........
I loved my lazy SS just click a few buttons and let the monk work lol
Still not sure though dont bother with it as playing NF at the mo, used to live in UW lolm, if i do i run a hybrid dual trap build, you can lay enough traps to kill attax in 30 secs and onto next group, u dont use spirits so you dont have to wait for recharge so i guess it works ok and when you get to smites you just pull the whole screen as normal so it prob is the quickest method now on a whole smite run i guess. I miss the old 55/ss days though........
I loved my lazy SS just click a few buttons and let the monk work lol
Kcp
Shield of absorption is really not needed for UW or FoW. You gain no massive benefit from using it due to the fact it doesn't last long enough on a non monk primary. You can easily out heal / avoid damage with other means that have same energy cost and faster recharges.
Everyone is on the SoA bandwagon, don't let it become your crutch, it will get nerfed, then you will be right back where you started. It doesn't benefit you any longer to take groups larger then 5 smites doing this run anymore do to the game of tag the AI plays now. You only need healing breeze when dealing with 5 smites anyways.
Everyone is on the SoA bandwagon, don't let it become your crutch, it will get nerfed, then you will be right back where you started. It doesn't benefit you any longer to take groups larger then 5 smites doing this run anymore do to the game of tag the AI plays now. You only need healing breeze when dealing with 5 smites anyways.
darrengordon
Yeah good point kcp very true
Xxalon Tacotu
So how do I get to the smites then ???
Done more runs tonight, and the Grasping have a 100% kill rate against me.
That first group of 4 is nailing me EVERY time. What am I doing wrong ??
Done more runs tonight, and the Grasping have a 100% kill rate against me.
That first group of 4 is nailing me EVERY time. What am I doing wrong ??
Kcp
The group of 4 squids will require 2 ss's to kill. 1 will run off and wait until the other 3 to die.
Xxalon Tacotu
That's the problem though. The one that runs is usually the one with SS on it. Then the others interrupt any further SS attempts, then interrupt HB, then finally PS.
Then I die.
Please help.
Then I die.
Please help.
Kcp
Skull crack takes ages to charge, and distracting blow recharges every 10 seconds. You just gotta find the window to lay SS on the others. It takes practice but once you get the hang of it you will rarely get interrupted.
If you get dazed and have room to move, run from them until it wears off then re-try them. Make sure you wait long enough for them to lose their adrenaline otherwise you will get nailed with skullcrack as soon as you re-engage them.
If you get dazed and have room to move, run from them until it wears off then re-try them. Make sure you wait long enough for them to lose their adrenaline otherwise you will get nailed with skullcrack as soon as you re-engage them.
Xxalon Tacotu
Thanks kcp. Will keep on trying.
Xxalon Tacotu
Thanks for the advice.
I beat them 4 out of 6 times tonight, and dropped another 5 ecto.
Cheers mate
I beat them 4 out of 6 times tonight, and dropped another 5 ecto.
Cheers mate