just a thought...but obviously its gonna be :
2 Heros for each core profession = 10
+2 Heros for each Faction profession = 4
+1 Hero for each NF profession = 2
+ the mysterious "Master of Whispers" ??? (if he isnt necro)
= 17 (or in the other case 16) Heros
Hero Feature - Information, Pictures and More [7 Threads Merged!!!]
jenny2
Solar_Takfar
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just a thought...but obviously its gonna be :
2 Heros for each core profession = 10 +2 Heros for each Faction profession = 4 +1 Hero for each NF profession = 2 + the mysterious "Master of Whispers" ??? (if he isnt necro) = 17 (or in the other case 16) Heros |
Konrow
ok heres my tought on the old chars crossing over: theres some professions that have two heroes. this is probably done because the new characters get one out of the two first and then get the other ones while the old chars get the other heroes and later on can obtain the heroes you Elona character received first. thats just what i'm thinking.
Cloudpiercer
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just a thought...but obviously its gonna be :
2 Heros for each core profession = 10 +2 Heros for each Faction profession = 4 +1 Hero for each NF profession = 2 + the mysterious "Master of Whispers" ??? (if he isnt necro) = 17 (or in the other case 16) Heros |
Caelus The Fallen
I think Attoron and Olias are the same, as are Kerak and Jin or Magrid (something like that anyway).
I saw these Heroes pop up in other forum posts and in both cases the source was non-english speaking (regional name differences) and accompanied by images which showed these heroes to have the same skins. I guess we'll see in 5 days or so....
I saw these Heroes pop up in other forum posts and in both cases the source was non-english speaking (regional name differences) and accompanied by images which showed these heroes to have the same skins. I guess we'll see in 5 days or so....
jenny2
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Originally Posted by Caelus The Fallen
I think Attoron and Olias are the same, as are Kerak and Magrid.
I saw these Heroes pop up in other forum posts and in both cases the source was non-english speaking (regional name differences) and accompanied by images which showed these heroes to have the same skins. I guess we'll see in 5 days or so.... |
2. Rit and Assa Heros were confirmed by a english game magazin with pic but without names (forgot game mag title)
3. not 3 rangers are confirmed: Kerak = Acolyte Jin (found a picture proof)
greetz
gwhobo
Which one will you be picking?
-Jin, the Ranger Hero
-Sousuke, The Elementalist Hero?
Note that Wiki says there will also be 2 more Ranger Heroes, and only 1 Elementalist, so I say Sousuke, any other opinions?
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Hero
-Jin, the Ranger Hero
-Sousuke, The Elementalist Hero?
Note that Wiki says there will also be 2 more Ranger Heroes, and only 1 Elementalist, so I say Sousuke, any other opinions?
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Hero
maedrarle
I agree with Sousuke. Hopefully he'll end up being more usefull.
Quid Pro Quo
Sousuke. I just have more use for an elementalist.
gr3g
You'll get both eventually, after you finish the game.
Ensign
I would suggest picking up the Rangers early so that you can level up pets for them as you go. Leveling up pets for them after completing the game does not seem very appealing.
Peace,
-CxE
Peace,
-CxE
Thallandor
hmm lets see,
Jin, the Ranger Hero: auto posion,condition spreader + Computer controlled split second interupts.
or
Sousuke, The Elementalist Hero: AoE? Air/Fire Spike? Flare spammer? - Personally i feel it may require abit too much micro manegement on part of the player for a Elementalist Hero to be worthwhile ( i would still prefer a human Ele as is true for monks if from friends/guild.)
But having said that, i would take Zhed over Sousuke any day. Besides Jin have a much cooler bio:
OMG who can resist a dark sexy chick like that.
As for Sousuke:
No one likes a talkative loud mouthed smarty pants do we.
Jin, the Ranger Hero: auto posion,condition spreader + Computer controlled split second interupts.
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Sousuke, The Elementalist Hero: AoE? Air/Fire Spike? Flare spammer? - Personally i feel it may require abit too much micro manegement on part of the player for a Elementalist Hero to be worthwhile ( i would still prefer a human Ele as is true for monks if from friends/guild.)
But having said that, i would take Zhed over Sousuke any day. Besides Jin have a much cooler bio:
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When Jin was a young girl growing up on the coast of Cantha, her family was slain by monstrous creatures in the dead of night. From that moment on, she trained as an archer, determined that the forces of darkness would never take her by surprise again. For hours, she silently practiced with her bow, taking some small measure of comfort in the sound of a bowstring releasing or the menace of an arrow in flight. Even before she joined the Zaishen Order, she was a determined and deadly adversary, and their instruction has made her even more dangerous. Traveling with others makes her feel a little safer, but she considers the concept of "safety in numbers" a delusion. In the end, she knows it's her own skill that means the difference between life and death. She does not care about rank or status in the Zaishen Order. Each day she systematically eliminates another monster threatening Elona, she finds it a little easier to survive one more night of troubled sleep. |
As for Sousuke:
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dansamy
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I would suggest picking up the Rangers early so that you can level up pets for them as you go. Leveling up pets for them after completing the game does not seem very appealing.
Peace, -CxE |
Lord Palidore
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Three words: Black Moa Bird
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.I generally prefer elementalist over rangers though; so I'll probably pick Jin first.
Spader
I'm going with rangers since ele's have weaker armor and tend to die while under the infulence of a being a hench bot.
kitsune23
I'll be using faction to unlock Magebane Shot and taking advantage of the AI reaction time for an interupter. Jin FTW!
kang
I will pick Sousuke because I know more useful ele builds than I know ranger builds, plus I have more unlocks.
....also im a full metal panic fan so obviously Sousuke for that......
....also im a full metal panic fan so obviously Sousuke for that......
baz777
My only planned Nightfall character will be an Ele so it will be Jin the Rnager for me. Besides, I have all ranger skills unlocked
Moist Muffin
Jin with out question, hero bp grp FTW.
Bankai
Ranger. I love rangers, plus they can become interrupters.
Kattox1
In the NPE I used Sousuke. I used him as an AoE attack spammer... nothing could touch the team, it was brilliant
Paperfly
Sosuke can double as an early game Necromancer (since from what spoillage there's been it looks like we won't unlock one untill well after the starter island), but other than that I agree that elementalist roles aren't well filled by henchies. If I ended up running him in my shortlists (and I won't, unless he's needed to unlock some secret or something like that), I'd make him a Geomancer - twin Earthquakes plus Ward Against Melee - and fill the rest of the slots with mesmer interrupts.
Character wise, he seems a bit too similar to Kai Ying, except that he's emo about it... Yech!
On the other hand, why would you bother with a Ranger hero? Mesmer interrupts are instantaneous, don't require a bow, and work fine off the hero's secondary class; and necromancers are better both at spreading conditions* and at doing area damage... And there's no way I'm letting a henchman carry a pet** - that's an aggro nightmare waiting to happen.
...Ah, maybe I'll pick her and give her a Touch build for fun and nonprofit.
*given the AI limitations - rangers won't tab between enemies to spread poison to everyone, for instance.
**speaking of hero pet levelling being a hassle... How 'bout trying to raise a dire pet on a hero!
Character wise, he seems a bit too similar to Kai Ying, except that he's emo about it... Yech!
On the other hand, why would you bother with a Ranger hero? Mesmer interrupts are instantaneous, don't require a bow, and work fine off the hero's secondary class; and necromancers are better both at spreading conditions* and at doing area damage... And there's no way I'm letting a henchman carry a pet** - that's an aggro nightmare waiting to happen.
...Ah, maybe I'll pick her and give her a Touch build for fun and nonprofit.
*given the AI limitations - rangers won't tab between enemies to spread poison to everyone, for instance.
**speaking of hero pet levelling being a hassle... How 'bout trying to raise a dire pet on a hero!
Gordon Ecker
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On the other hand, why would you bother with a Ranger hero? Mesmer interrupts are instantaneous, don't require a bow, and work fine off the hero's secondary class; and necromancers are better both at spreading conditions* and at doing area damage... And there's no way I'm letting a henchman carry a pet** - that's an aggro nightmare waiting to happen.
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And it's strongly suspected that Kerak and Attoron are just names used for Jin and Olias in some of the non-English translations.
Nevin
Not gunna use the Ranger hero, because I'm gunna be a Ranger myself. Also there will be more then 1 ele hero. In the preview video it shows the Centaur (Zhed) casting "red skills" and Ele's have red skills.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/64/gwnheroesqz7.jpg <-- The Centaur (Zhed)
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/64/gwnheroesqz7.jpg <-- The Centaur (Zhed)
Earth
Jin. Used her as a toucher/packhunter in the preview event and both worked nicely. I'll make the cute centaur my water hexer.
Tetris L
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GW Wiki stated that two of the necromancer might be one in the same though. Either it’s got its facts wrong or I smell something fishy from certain un-creditable journalism.
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For the heroes: The names that are listed are the names given by magazines or on fansites (who wrote their articles based on information handed to them by ANet), plus what was visible in the official trailer.
Wil
There are only a few days before Nightfall release.
Just wait and see.
Just wait and see.
RTSFirebat
Yet another two Hero thread merged... this thread merging is getting silly now. Can we at least wait till Nightfall is released its only 5 days away
Zinger314
Credit to Zaxares from GWO:
That confirms all thoughts and all previews (including Razah, the variable, who is supposedly from the Mists). It also fits the 12 Heroes + 2 Heroes (campaign-exclusive) that ArenaNet has been promoting.
However, there's one problem: No Morghan. Morghan was virtually confirmed in the Hero Preview as a Paragon. Now, we're without a permanent Paragon hero. That's quite dissappointing, since the PvE annihiliation build I had planned will be ineffective without a Paragon hero. Hopefully Razah will be obtained early...
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An update. I've looked through the Nightfall manuscripts that came with the CE, and these are the 14 Heroes listed in there:
- Koss (warrior) - Dunkoro (monk) - Mehloni (dervish) - Tahlkora (monk) - Acolyte Sousuke (elementalist) - Acolyte Jin (ranger) - Margrid (ranger) - Zhed Shadowhoof (elementalist) - Norgu (mesmer) - Goren (warrior) - Master of Whispers (unknown) - Olias (necromancer, Prophecies only Hero) - Zenmai (assassin, Factions only Hero) - Razah (variable) |
However, there's one problem: No Morghan. Morghan was virtually confirmed in the Hero Preview as a Paragon. Now, we're without a permanent Paragon hero. That's quite dissappointing, since the PvE annihiliation build I had planned will be ineffective without a Paragon hero. Hopefully Razah will be obtained early...
Windstriker
That may be a mistake because I am pretty sure they wouldn't leave out a Nightfall only class in Nightfall. Heck, they even list the Dervish Hero in the newsletter even! Who knows, maybe they did get crazy and dropped a Dervish Hero. The 27th, we'll find out...
Shadowfox1125
You'd think that Anet would remove Morgahn from that page if he wasn't a hero..
So no Rit hero?
Meh.
So no Rit hero?
Meh.
Lord Palidore
Morgahn's desciption on the website:
"MORGAHN
A former general in the service of the Kourna, Morgahn is betrayed by his allies and seeks vindication with your aid."
But the fact that he is not listed in the manual tells us three things:
-Morgahn is a temporary hero, perhaps only available in certain missions
-Morgahn really is an evil-doer
-Morgahn dies.."Rurik NOOOO..."
o.O
Anyways, so apperantly Master of Whispers' profession will remain unknown until he's discovered, though lots of proof aims towards the fact he's a necromancer. Obviously then he is not a variable build, as we have one now.
For the comment about Anet that we would think Anet includes every class, it apperantly isn't true, because they also dont have any ritualist hero. I guess those supporting ritualist and us cheerleading paragons aren't good enough to be heroes >_<.
So if they dont feel like being nice and creating new character models and templates for those two professions, they can at least give us two variable heroes
"MORGAHN
A former general in the service of the Kourna, Morgahn is betrayed by his allies and seeks vindication with your aid."
But the fact that he is not listed in the manual tells us three things:
-Morgahn is a temporary hero, perhaps only available in certain missions
-Morgahn really is an evil-doer
-Morgahn dies.."Rurik NOOOO..."
o.O
Anyways, so apperantly Master of Whispers' profession will remain unknown until he's discovered, though lots of proof aims towards the fact he's a necromancer. Obviously then he is not a variable build, as we have one now.
For the comment about Anet that we would think Anet includes every class, it apperantly isn't true, because they also dont have any ritualist hero. I guess those supporting ritualist and us cheerleading paragons aren't good enough to be heroes >_<.
So if they dont feel like being nice and creating new character models and templates for those two professions, they can at least give us two variable heroes
GloryFox
Oh come now did you not read the manuscripts for Prophecies and Factions?
How many henchmen were really listed in those manuscripts? Do you really think Nightfall's manuscripts are complete?
I doubt it....
I doubt it very much....
I think much in Nightfall will still surprise us. I doubt ANET would give up all of their games secrets before its released. I expect we will be very much surprised about what we will find in Nightfall.
How many henchmen were really listed in those manuscripts? Do you really think Nightfall's manuscripts are complete?
I doubt it....
I doubt it very much....
I think much in Nightfall will still surprise us. I doubt ANET would give up all of their games secrets before its released. I expect we will be very much surprised about what we will find in Nightfall.
Zinger314
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Oh come now did you not read the manuscripts for Prophecies and Factions?
How many henchmen were really listed in those manuscripts? Do you really think Nightfall's manuscripts are complete? I doubt it.... I doubt it very much.... I think much in Nightfall will still surprise us. I doubt ANET would give up all of their games secrets before its released. I expect we will be very much surprised about what we will find in Nightfall. |
Lord Palidore
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I doubt it....
I doubt it very much.... |
14 heroes is what Anet has been advertising for a long while now, and just that fact should mean it's true, as heroes if anything is the primary new addition above all else in Nightfall; their primary source of advertising the new chapter.
kazjun
I'm not so sure about zenmai and olias being factions and proph specific. They come from there, but I didn't see anything saying that you had to have the previous campaigns to get them. Not that I saw at first glance anyway, I'll go look at the manual later when I get home. They could just be nightfall specific heroes that happen to be foreigners to elona. And if thats the case, there's still a chance that there may be one extra hero for each of the older campaigns. Or thats what I'm hoping for anyway. I doubt they'd not have at least one hero of each class...
And don't rule out Morgahn. The description was on the website, it could well be that they are hiding the fact that he gets betrayed. He's listed in the manual as a loyal paragon, so they could be leaving it to be a plot twist that you get him as a hero later in the campaign.
And don't rule out Morgahn. The description was on the website, it could well be that they are hiding the fact that he gets betrayed. He's listed in the manual as a loyal paragon, so they could be leaving it to be a plot twist that you get him as a hero later in the campaign.
Lord Palidore
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I'm not so sure about zenmai and olias being factions and proph specific.
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"(On a cool note, while you don't need to own Guild Wars or Guild Wars Factions to play Nightfall, there is a neat reward if you do. There's a unique hero based on each of those two campaigns, and you can travel back to Tyria and Cantha and unlock them. Not only that, but you can also adventure around the original campaign settings with your heroes.)"
Also, if they weren't Tyrian and Canthan heroes, they would be listed in the "Meet the Heroes" page on guildwars.com with the other primary (Elonan) heroes.
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I don't doubt those are Hero’s one bit... I just think there will be more than those listed in the manuscripts.
NeHoMaR
I care a lot about Ritualist hero, I want one. Indeed, if they are adding heroes, why not add ALL 10 proffesions? Why skip a profession? They MUST even add heroes for the future professions (chapter 4)
arcanemacabre
There really should be a Paragon and Ritualist hero. Would kinda suck if they just leave out two professions like that. Especially such useful support characters.