prices for greens
arcanemacabre
Honestly, I feel that greens should auto-customize when they're dropped for a player. They seem to be a kind of reward for defeating a boss, and just being able to buy them in the first place defeats that purpose. Overfarming would be a thing of the past and we wouldn't need a 3x drop weekend to raise the chances of getting that reward.
Maria The Princess
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Honestly, I feel that greens should auto-customize when they're dropped for a player. They seem to be a kind of reward for defeating a boss, and just being able to buy them in the first place defeats that purpose. Overfarming would be a thing of the past and we wouldn't need a 3x drop weekend to raise the chances of getting that reward.
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Silvergun Superman
I'm pretty confident that in time, the prices on these greens will go back to normal. Yeah, most of these greens were massed farm during this weekend but most are going to be sold within days, weeks. So the demand for certain greens will go back up and so will the price.
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Honestly, I feel that greens should auto-customize when they're dropped for a player. They seem to be a kind of reward for defeating a boss, and just being able to buy them in the first place defeats that purpose. Overfarming would be a thing of the past and we wouldn't need a 3x drop weekend to raise the chances of getting that reward.
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ramma77
i bid for a vera on guru days ago and i had to pay 26K for it last night. :lol
doh!
yeah... greens where there to make sure everyone had a nice weapon. It's not about the grind remember.
I'm glad they did this. now i can buy more greens and not bankrupt myself.
doh!
yeah... greens where there to make sure everyone had a nice weapon. It's not about the grind remember.
I'm glad they did this. now i can buy more greens and not bankrupt myself.
lg5000
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Honestly, I feel that greens should auto-customize when they're dropped for a player. They seem to be a kind of reward for defeating a boss, and just being able to buy them in the first place defeats that purpose.
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Actually, if they were customised to the player, my mesmer would have a green rit. staff he picked up while skill capping at the beginning of factions... god only knows what purpose that staff would have... other than being deleted because I don't have enough storage space.
Yes, it's wonderful that we get rewarded for killing a boss, but the reality is that not every boss is of your characters specific profession, so customising those weapons upon drop would be rather silly.
Malice Black
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fenix
Green auto-customisation would be interesting, but very very lame. It would mean that EVERYONE would have to farm the boss just to get the green, which would make Guild Wars turn into Grind Wars...even more so than it is
Estic
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Originally Posted by The Admins Bane
Easy way to solve that, make customization account based instead of character based. I'm still against the idea but I cant help finding a solution for everything.
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Note: I know you are against it so it's nbt a dig at you personally
Just against the whole idea of auto-customizing greens.
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by Estic
Still wouldn't work I think. If you only play as a warrior and you find a Kaolin domination staff.... Your reward for killing the boss would equal zero. Or -1 storage room if you pick it up.
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BTW: when I said "player", I meant player, not character, as in the account. Sorry for any confusion.
So that out of the way, why is this a bad idea? Really, I'd like to know.
Skids
I guess if I farmed my butt off for greens like some do I would be p***ed off that the price had dropped. However I dont farm greens so how can I put it?...."tough"!!
This for me was by far the best weekend event so far. I got 4 green weapons and a shed load of golds, 90% of the time with 7 henchmen.
I also spent more time in Factions than I have since it came out - and in fact ENJOYED playing it for a change.
Long live the common scum like me, and rest in peace all you robbing scum who want to charge 100K + 50 ecto's for a weapon lol.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE !!!
This for me was by far the best weekend event so far. I got 4 green weapons and a shed load of golds, 90% of the time with 7 henchmen.
I also spent more time in Factions than I have since it came out - and in fact ENJOYED playing it for a change.
Long live the common scum like me, and rest in peace all you robbing scum who want to charge 100K + 50 ecto's for a weapon lol.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE !!!
Linksys
I like how prices have dropped for Canthan greens and I hope it stays that way. The lesser the price, the better. Make them available to everyone. I'm not suggesting total Socialism in GW. I still want there to be higher priced items. But the more affordable for everyone, the better. There would still be room for people who enjoy trading and selling.
I think this triple green weekend cause more of these greens to circulate around not just because of the drop rate, but the increase in people farming for them. I'd like to see more of these events. And how about a weekend when the elite missions are open to EVERYONE and doesn't require a ferry?
I think this triple green weekend cause more of these greens to circulate around not just because of the drop rate, but the increase in people farming for them. I'd like to see more of these events. And how about a weekend when the elite missions are open to EVERYONE and doesn't require a ferry?
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by Estic
Still wouldn't work I think. If you only play as a warrior and you find a Kaolin domination staff.... Your reward for killing the boss would equal zero. Or -1 storage room if you pick it up.
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lg5000
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Big deal! The point is, if it was auto-customized, it would have no value, except to yourself. If you have no use for it, it's either a trophy or trash bin fodder, your choice.
BTW: when I said "player", I meant player, not character, as in the account. Sorry for any confusion. So that out of the way, why is this a bad idea? Really, I'd like to know. |
Linksys
That does bring an interesting idea. Not to be off topic, but how about some type of boss that will yeild a weapon specifically for the profession of each character that defeats it? The weapon will drop assigned and customized for you. The weapon type will be the one for your primary profession.
As for triple green week, I'd love to see another at Christmas time. For Prophecies, Factions, and Nightfall all at the same time. If that's a lot of farming for one weekend, make it a week long event!
As for triple green week, I'd love to see another at Christmas time. For Prophecies, Factions, and Nightfall all at the same time. If that's a lot of farming for one weekend, make it a week long event!
Stixxx
I knew prices would drop after the event, since the greens would obviously get overfarmed... So i sold my Kanaxai's edge before the event for a nice 76k.
Dunno what the price is right now for the Edge tho...
Dunno what the price is right now for the Edge tho...
Malice Black
That brings up the problem of Mods on these greens...some like the classic wammo mods 20/20 +30hp whislt the more experianced would prefer vamp/zealous and +5AR and so on.
Linksys
The prices during the triple green weekend were way low. But I think it's more because people were thinking, "I can just farm them myself." They'll go up in price steadily as days and weeks go by. Hopefully not as high as they were before the event. But they will at least a little and that's a good thing. I really do support the trade and economy in the game. But when someone decides "ok I want to get this certain item by finding or buying it," I want it so it doesn't take long to get it. I'd like to see this aspect of the game relaxed a bit.
Gamblor
how much for rajazan's fervor now?
TideSwayer
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With any luck NF will have a new color weapons with a tiny bit increase in dammage or slight mod increase.
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What I would like to see is entirely new types of mods created. No idea what, but there has to be something that could be added to the combat engine to spice up weapon crafting, and how mundane it has gotten. The inscriptions are a nice start, but they will still just be things we've already seen/used before.
As for the green prices, they will probably rebound a bit from this weekend's floor prices, but I wouldn't expect them to regain their complete pre-event value. I'd say 20-25% off their old rates could be a target point to look at for most of them. For the next few days it will be an extreme buyer's market as supply of everything is high, so buy now if there are any greens you want to get for your Nightfall heroes. Actually, the fact that in two weeks' time people are going to be equipping for heroes in addition to their main characters, means that greens everywhere may see some sort of demand increase, if only slightly.
Yakumo
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Honestly, I feel that greens should auto-customize when they're dropped for a player.
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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
no thank you.......i was farming a bow with my monk, and my monk REALLY doesnt need a bow
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If you want to get a green to trade, give away or keep (for another character), you farm the boss as normal for an uncustomised green.
If you just want to get it for yourself, you complete a quest and get the customised green as a reward. You're guaranteed to get the green, but as it's customised, it's only valueable to your character.
If you don't want to farm or complete a quest because it's long, you still have the option to buy from another player.
Mr_T_bot
That's the problem, other players are obviously asshats. Look at this thread. People are complaining because they can only sell items for 10-30k instead of 70-100+k. They need to permanently increase the drop rates of greens tocap the insane economy since they refuse to add any sort of cross-continent, cross-server trading system like an auction house that might help put a lid on it.
Emik
I don't have a single Canthan green... Basically becoz the stats are horrible.
But that's my 2 cents
EDIT... Correction I do have one: Sskai's Sword
But that's my 2 cents
EDIT... Correction I do have one: Sskai's Sword
Cow Tale
i like how expensive greens are, youre all complaining but seriously, what else will u spend your money on? if greens etc were cheap every player would have 1million gold + and nothing to spend it on. theres only so many things to spend money on.
led-zep
prices for greens will go back up, just wait a while and sell if you want better money or if someone offers you a small amount just dont sell to them
just because some fool says 'sunreach shield is worth 15k' doesnt mean you have to sell it to him for it as more often or not he's scamming and will then sell it on for a profit.
just because some fool says 'sunreach shield is worth 15k' doesnt mean you have to sell it to him for it as more often or not he's scamming and will then sell it on for a profit.
Rusty Deth
I sell cheap for 3 reasons...
1) I don't want to sit in town all day trying to sell something.
2) It isn't real money anyways, so whatever I get is fine by me.
3) I like it when people are happy at my low low prices.
I used this weekend to get greens I wanted, not to make more money. And I had two ways of doing this, buying them for cheap or getting them to drop. I went for the ladder since it earned me a little gold as well.
1) I don't want to sit in town all day trying to sell something.
2) It isn't real money anyways, so whatever I get is fine by me.
3) I like it when people are happy at my low low prices.
I used this weekend to get greens I wanted, not to make more money. And I had two ways of doing this, buying them for cheap or getting them to drop. I went for the ladder since it earned me a little gold as well.
Mr_T_bot
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Originally Posted by Cow Tale
i like how expensive greens are, youre all complaining but seriously, what else will u spend your money on? if greens etc were cheap every player would have 1million gold + and nothing to spend it on. theres only so many things to spend money on.
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That's the problem, other players are obviously asshats. Look at this thread. People are complaining because they can only sell items for 10-30k instead of 70-100+k. They need to permanently increase the drop rates of greens tocap the insane economy since they refuse to add any sort of cross-continent, cross-server trading system like an auction house that might help put a lid on it.
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On the few occasions I was in Cantha I've seen people spamming trade for greens and whispered them to find that they are vastly overpriced--sometimes by thrice the Price Check amount here in guru.
While not set in stone, I've always found the prices in our trade section a solid gauge for prices in game. people selling--and buying--these greens for such rediculiously high prices are going to have a bitter taste in their mouths all too soon. Thanks to the increased drop large quantities of greens have flooded what was an already unstable market.
The simple fact remains: if greens weren't worth what people have been charging before the weekend, they certainly aren't going to be worth as much now that the market has been effectivly saturated.
Canthan green prices are going to crash very soon...which is why I spent most of the weekend chestfarming in Tyria
Estic
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
So that out of the way, why is this a bad idea? Really, I'd like to know.
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Besides, you stated in you first post that you wanted them customized because they are "kind of a reward for defeating a boss". I dont see it as a reward to get a weapon I dont use or intend to use on any character. Honestly, I don't see why it is a problem people are paying insane amounts of cash for green items. If they want to do that, let them. The player who killed the boss gets his reward for killing it. If you want to stop people from farming them get a better working farming code (not needed if you ask me but I see it as more of a solution to the (IMHO perceived) problem).
Cow Tale
everyone wants a Ferrari but wants to pay the price of a '83 Pinto
Mr_T_bot
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everyone wants a Ferrari but wants to pay the price of a '83 Pinto
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And I like how you completely ignored my shooting down your other fellacious bs.
No item is worth more than the platinum trade cap and what's more, the greens are barely better than collector's items. But no one goes around selling those for 80k.
FalconDance
Am I the only person who didn't get a single damned green this weekend?!?
Was the warrior in a group that got the Stonereaper staff (one of the two greens I wanted for my own girls) for a necro first trip out Sat. morn. Got a monk staff for a monk on the third (I really hate it when someone maps out on a party without warning once they have what they want). Never saw another green drop the entire rest of the weekend!
Two greens - for my own use - was all I asked. (Actually there was another but I can't get to it yet) Tried different characters, PuGs as well as henches. Nada. And I began getting *very* pissy when someone in the party said "I got 6 greens here already today.....oops, make that 7".
Oh well. Not like the collectors don't have perfectly adequate weapons. Not like my girls really need the greens. And I have plenty of gold without trying to jip others out of theirs. It's just the idea.
Was the warrior in a group that got the Stonereaper staff (one of the two greens I wanted for my own girls) for a necro first trip out Sat. morn. Got a monk staff for a monk on the third (I really hate it when someone maps out on a party without warning once they have what they want). Never saw another green drop the entire rest of the weekend!
Two greens - for my own use - was all I asked. (Actually there was another but I can't get to it yet) Tried different characters, PuGs as well as henches. Nada. And I began getting *very* pissy when someone in the party said "I got 6 greens here already today.....oops, make that 7".
Oh well. Not like the collectors don't have perfectly adequate weapons. Not like my girls really need the greens. And I have plenty of gold without trying to jip others out of theirs. It's just the idea.
Cow Tale
i tend to ignore rude low lifes who idolize mr t. hope u meet someone like him in prison some day so he can love you long time. ive never sold a green for over 20k so i dont know where ure getting the 80k stuff from. people like you are the reason they have to put the "game content may change during online play" next to the rating on games. youre a arrogant rude pos that is wasting precious oxygen the rest of us could use just by breathing. go play in the street at a busy truck stop, try jumpin in front of a semi. stop being rude to me.
Former Ruling
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everyone wants a Ferrari but wants to pay the price of a '83 Pinto
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In this game that Ferrari would have the same parts and assessories, same body, come from the same factory and automaker, and pretty much be the same exact car as the '83 Pinto -except its name- So of course it is fair to assume their prices would be somewhere in line with each other.
Cow Tale
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Originally Posted by Former Ruling
The market for weapons in this game cannot even be compared to the market for automobiles in the real world. Totally different structure.
In this game that Ferrari would have the same parts and assessories, same body, come from the same factory and automaker, and pretty much be the same exact car as the '83 Pinto -except its name- So of course it is fair to assume their prices would be somewhere in line with each other. |
green/ferrari looks way cooler. most people dont buy because of performance, but for looks, not like u can go around driving at 200 mph anyway
Mr_T_bot
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Originally Posted by Cow Tale
green/ferrari looks way cooler. most people dont buy because of performance, but for looks, not like u can go around driving at 200 mph anyway
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Skids
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Originally Posted by Rusty Deth
I sell cheap for 3 reasons...
1) I don't want to sit in town all day trying to sell something. 2) It isn't real money anyways, so whatever I get is fine by me. 3) I like it when people are happy at my low low prices. I used this weekend to get greens I wanted, not to make more money. And I had two ways of doing this, buying them for cheap or getting them to drop. I went for the ladder since it earned me a little gold as well. |
Either way, I seem to be one of the few who farmed this weekend SOLELY for my own characters benefit - not to sell on.
Juicey Shake
stop with the personal attacks, sheesh...
trankle
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i am really frustrated with the drop in prices. i found 2 very nice canthan greens today that were usually high in price and are now worth nothing. if i get a green i can't use (sunreach's shield) i'll sell it. the shield would not be worth selling now because of the green drop weekend. the price for the shield has dropped VERY quickly and people are selling it for 8k.
so overall, i do not like the fact that anet had to make a 3x the chance of greens dropping weekend in cantha. there will be no profit for people who find expensive greens, with prices now slashed in half or in thirds. |
Perhaps you can find consolation is the fact that, had the weekend event not happened, you may not have even found those items.
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I don't understand people's confusion with this issue. We had two weeks' notice about the event; it shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone. Supply of green items was bound to increase. The effect this would have on prices was hardly unpredictable. Anyone hoping to get rich on selling greens at their regular rates was bound to be disappointed.
Here's a strategy:
1. In times of low supply, use the opportunity to sell and make money. The beginning of the Nightfall campaign would be a good example. People who find greens before the general playerbase has begun farming (or even locating) them will have a supply advantage. Buying during this period is not shrewd.
2. In times of high supply, use the opportunity to acquire items you want. If you want the item, prices may never be lower. Selling druing this period is not shrewd. We are currenty in this situation.
3. In times of "regular" supply, prices stabilize to a range agreed upon by the supply side and the demand side. Business as normal.
Cow Tale
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Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
The performance and features are still there. Every single one of your arguments is more idiotic than the last. Except maybe the idea that a player to player economy is a gold sink. Moron.
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whatever dude im not arguing with anyone. just stated the fact that people buy weapons for the skin. sunreach shield has same stats as the wooden buckler u can get from collector in the vasburg armory for like 5 dragon roots. i for one would rather have a cool looking shield than a wooden buckler. if that makes me a moron i guess im a moron. in your opinion at least.
/Signed to have Mr T Bot publicly casturated