Titles

I could care less about titles they are just something to do to fill the spare time with. Max titles do not equal experience of a player.

how do u buy fame?

You pay a bunch of R9+ Players to let you on their team.

Anyway the real reason Titles were added is because A-net realised people would probably stop playing once they'd completed Factions due to the fact it's so crap compared to Prophecies, so had to come up with something to keep people playing.

The only titles that impress me are Gladiator and Champion. The others are merley something to do and spend money and time on. I do the ones I enjoy as I am doing things, and not specifically for the title itself.

The only title of the spend vast sums and idle variety I would try to max would have been the Drunkard title, HAD the max level been called Drunken Master.

Grandmaster Cartographer is the only title that currently impresses me. Because that person had the patience to go through the entire game and map all of the areas.

Funny how some people say some titles are just something to do. Well the hard part is doing it duh. If you don't have the type of title, don't give comments how easy it is as you don't have it point. When you achieved it you can say it's easy no prob, but until then don't be a jealous prick.

I'll only comment on the 5 max titles I have:
- protector of Tyria: 25 bonuses are quite a few to obtain, though with some dedication it's very doable.
- protector of Cantha: fewer missions in Cantha but a bit harder to get imo.
- Tyria grandmaster cartographer: Tyria is the biggest area in the game thusfar and uncovering everything takes a good portion of dedication.
- Canthan grandmaster carto: not as difficult as the Tyrian but it still has to be done and it will still take some time and dedication.
- advanced skill hunter (max of 180 elites atm): 3/4 of the elites are not that difficult to cap, run in with hench, kill, cap, get out. But the remaining 1/4 of the 180 elite skills are a pain to get.

What title impresses me the most: Kind of a big deal.

i'm not impressed by any of the titles because they all are easy through boring grindwork and none really show off an amazing amount of skill.

tho i love grinding towards them =D

I don't really see why people get so aggressive about them- if a person wants to sink their money into a title just let them! You don't have to go around telling them it's worthless and they have no skill. Most titles don't prove you are a skilled player, but they don't disprove it either. They're just a fun thing to do.

Personally I love the skill hunter title- I have level 1 and one of the officers in my guild has level 3.You CAN pay people to run you to the boss, but you need to physically be there (and alive!) to press "Cap Sig", so it would still take some effort. That's lame though; I like going out with henchies, and working on explorer and chest-opener at the same time. It's something to do when there's no PvP to be had.

I do respect the maxed out map titles because I've recently got to 93% in both, and realise how damn difficult it is to fulfil it without getting help, etc. People who got those on their own are very patient!

For me, a legit earned Survivors title, 100% explorers title, and skill cap title are the best... i saw so many KOABD this weekend at the games, that Im beggining to wonder if they are worth anything..

I personally think that the gladiator title 2+, hero title 5+ and the champion 2+ is the most impressive ones. Sure they CAN be bought, but that does not mean most of them are.
Protector doesnt impress me at all to be honest, i played an ele thru factions and got master on pretty much all the missions first time through by joining master groups. I wasnt even going for the title.
Drunken title can be nothing more then a money sink, but it can be cool aswell. Im working on it atm and it does make things interesting to be drunk (lvl 5 so you cant se crap) while playing AB or going through missions.
All titles mean the person haveing them have put some time into getting them, which, imo is worthy of some respect.

Champions title is the one and only impressive title. They had to decrease the minimum rating so more than the top 10 guilds would get in on it and still only about a little more than 200 guilds have a 1200+ rating. You can more or less farm HA/RA/TA with some patience, all you need is time.

The other titles are money sinks or involve expending time or both in several cases but that's not hard..

What do you mean by 'legit earned Surivors title'?

I am guessing from previous discussions about the survivor title that a lot of people get this by getting free exp from guildies while they sit back out of harms way and let them give off free exp points to them from a distance.

Other issues and complaints I have heard about survivor title is that people tend to "bail out" when things get tough, or farm easy areas for exp so as not to endanger their character. Getting run to areas to get armour and then going back to lower level areas, etc.

Obviously it takes some effort, thought, and planning to get the title. To be a "pure survivor" is to take a char from the beginning of the game with no help from your other chars treasure chest and take them through to Legendary Survivor without any shortcuts, armour boosts, or high end weapons that you did not gather or collect "legitimately".

How you prove this is beyond me, and I simply respect the title. Just to get one of my characters to the first level was a huge effort and I was deeply disappointed when it died during a lag spike fighting some ice imps.

How are they anything more than something to do? The majority of them are exercises in spending large amounts of resources, be they gold or time, or both. Takes dedication and resources, as well as patience, and those things are impressive in and of themselves, but they are not impressive to me as in game accomplishments per se, hence my reply that Gladiator and Champion lines are. Those title lines are of a different variety.

Nightfall introduces the concept of titles having an effect on PvE in-game accomplishments, placing a boon on having certain titles - some of the current lines - as well as some of the new ones. Worst idea ever, in my humble opinion, as it all but forces PvE players to seek said titles whereas before titles were enjoayble diversions. Having titles have a PvE impact does not suddenly make them impressive - they still by and large require monotony and grinding that about anyone with monetary and time resources can do - except for the two I pointed to, those being quite a bit more challenging and impressive in so far as they are harder to purchase.

In no way am I seeking to belittle titles gained by anyone. I actually have the titles you list on not one but several characters and am working on others, though none are all consolidated onto one character to yield KOABD, so "...but until then don't be a jealous prick." is baseless and frankly cant see where I ruffled your feathers any. It is after all, a topic of what titles impress you.

Skill hunter is the most interesting title to get IMO, as its grind isn't repetitive. You get to visit many place (without having to hug walls), fight varied enemies (no repetitive farming), and may get a few greens as a bonus. It's good PvE.

I think (s)he means people who didn't get power leveled.

you don't get fame by Iway, you get it playing sprit spam about a year a bit ago, i am looking at you meatball....

also there are some people who have sold there rank 12s over Ebay so its not easy to get a phonenix you just have to pay top dolar for it.

@ aera lure: I was talking about people who don't have a particular title and make it sound like it's a walk in the park. As you wrote yourself, it takes dedication, resources, patience.

The titles you find impressive are pvp titles. Which are in a way the same. It takes dedication, patience and resources (not in the form of gold but skill in pvp, good teamplayers etc). To become good at something you have to do it over and over again, sounds like grinding too.

I agree, except that over time on those you become good at it and not just anyone can get those done. I find them impressive for that reason. Takes a lot of time? You bet. I just till find them more impressive than:

Drunken title: buy a vast sum of ale and idle while you are drunk. Lucky/unlucky is basically the same. Legendary Survivor is get a run to Elona and farm minotaurs for a week. Treasure and Wisdom titles can be had simply through large monetary resources. Protector titles happen during the course of play if you take the time to get them done. Cartographers if you have a character that can run in some fashion are easier, but with a map in hand are not challenging for any profession - just time consuming. Pretty much anyone can get these done if they have access to resources needed and the time.

Now again, not to belittle them in any way. I have and am completing a number of them for the sake of doing and because some (like Skill Hunter) are fun and useful to the character. I guess my only point is how one might define impressive, and mine isnt based on time or the amount of resources one can conjure, as requires the lot of the PvE titles. The PvP titles require time as a consequence of getting good at it, but even then not just anyone can fulfill it and I am impressed by that.

That's not to say I wasnt impressed when I saw a max ranked Allegiance title. Its just a different kind of impressed. More impressed someone had that sort of time.

first off, how on earth can you simply say TREASURE HUNTER is a money sink hole?

first you need money, then you need TIME and SKILL just to get to each chest, not only that, but some maps in their entirety only have 3 chests to open, whereas places with a wider range of areas to explore have 5 maximum, now after you take this into consideration, tell me again that it's just a "money sink hole".

it seems to me you're having biased oppinions on certain skills without having actually tried them out.

i've dabbled in just about all of them to realize how hard each is.

The only skill i agree with you on is the wisdom title, that is pure money right there and no skill involved, which is why i decided to earn it on my own without spending cash, so far i'm doing ok at 3000/5000 for r6 on it.

Wisdom Title: if the person has the cash for it, it's to show off how rich you are.

Treasure Hunter Title: EXTREME skill, i'd have to say there are less than 10 people in the game with r7 treasure hunter. (it would take 100 days to get r7 opening 100 chests a day for each of those 100 days [(100 chests = r1 btw)]

Cartographer Title: i find this useless and boring, although >95% is a nice title.
Survivor Title: hard to resist the temptation of death .
Drunkard Title: extreme patience, i know i could never accomplish this.
Protector Title: too easy, not worth a title.
Skill Hunter Title: very hard to cap skills, sometimes have to do entire missions just for 1 skill x however many you need.
Gladiator Title: extremely tough, takes a lot of luck with your team.
Hero Title: over-rated, for pvp players. It is a nice one, but hard to tell if the person actually earned it, or bought it off of ebay.
Lucky Title: shouldnt even be a title.
Allegiance Title: forced to faction farm? i don't find that fun at all, you die, that's it. (people who think you AB for this title have never gone for it, it's pure faction farm is how you get this up)
Champion Title: impressive one, but for pvp people's enjoyment.
KoaBD: not hard to get, but a great title, one of which i'm striving for. (4/5)