http://www.guildwars.com/support/gam...vpeditions.php
Looks like good news for PvP players in either chapter that dont own the other
Guild Wars PvP Packs!
Lord Palidore
New addition to the online store as of only minutes ago!
http://www.guildwars.com/support/gam...vpeditions.php
Looks like good news for PvP players in either chapter that dont own the other
http://www.guildwars.com/support/gam...vpeditions.php
Looks like good news for PvP players in either chapter that dont own the other
Venom4112
Pretty cool option for people who dont like PvE I suppose.
Knightsaber Sith
They're just now releasing that? I remember Gaile telling us about it a long long time ago....
You could use that to isntantly unlock skills for heroes too.
Well here's where she announced it if anyone really cares.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=un lock+pack
I guess those posts got deleted cause of the fire fox plugin, lol.
You could use that to isntantly unlock skills for heroes too.
Well here's where she announced it if anyone really cares.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=un lock+pack
I guess those posts got deleted cause of the fire fox plugin, lol.
Lord Palidore
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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
I know what it is, Gaile did make a thread telling us about it a while ago and it got to be quite long.
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Anyways, I was referring to a comment Venom made, but he edited his post before I posted that message; it wasn't directed towards you Knightsaber, sorry
Saphrium
I just hope their next step is not charging ppl twice for pvp and pve content of the same chapter
Knightsaber Sith
^If someone already bought the regular (pve) copy of the game, they can unlock things themselves. If they choose to buy it rather than just earning it, that's their choice. I don't think it's fair to say Anet is charging twice for the same content when all they're doing is providing another option for pvp'ers that don't like to have to pve to unlock things.
Omega X
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I just hope their next step is not charging ppl twice for pvp and pve content of the same chapter
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Neo Nugget
How much is it...its not showin up in store.
P.S im not buying it lol.
P.S im not buying it lol.
Pkest
The previously available unlock packs still required you to own the chapter. These new pvp versions are the chapter and unlocks together for pvp only.
Lord Aro
I'd like to see store updates seperated from main updates.
Forcing us to leave can get annoying. Esp when you're at a 9 win streak then that message pops up.
Forcing us to leave can get annoying. Esp when you're at a 9 win streak then that message pops up.
Silly Warrior
39.99 for the PvP side?
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Talk about way to expensive, for just ten bucks more you could buy the entire game.
I'd say they should reduce this price to around 25 dollers, mostly because I'm a money-grubber....
Nobodies going to pay 40 bucks for the PvP version, when they could buy the entire game for 10 dollers more, its almost a waste of money.
.....Talk about way to expensive, for just ten bucks more you could buy the entire game.
I'd say they should reduce this price to around 25 dollers, mostly because I'm a money-grubber....
Nobodies going to pay 40 bucks for the PvP version, when they could buy the entire game for 10 dollers more, its almost a waste of money.
mrgoat
Think of it this way: If you only play PVE, then logically, you should only have to pay ten bucks. The PVP part costs 40, PVE+PVP costs 50, therefore, 50-PVP=10. I eagerly await my pve only nightfall at the bargain price of ten whole dollars!
Aerian_Skybane
idk silly warrior, it includes complete unlocks of all skills across the professions, so people who have no interest in PVE and just like the competition, it actually saves money and time. Its easy access, you pay for that, and it seems reasonably priced. Got to have that choice, and ponder if its worth it. Good business if you ask me. 30 to 35 dollars would make a little more sense though, but I'm not NCsoft's business dept.
Plus, to be completely honest, what does ANET have to lose, its not like its damaging normal game content (and hope it stays that way
), they can get a few more people playing on this. I dont mind it one bit. I'll continue to buy the full game since I'm a PVE fan *whoops used a bad word lol* and one of the ones that actually enjoyed Factions thoroughly, so ANET can do no wrong lol.
Plus, to be completely honest, what does ANET have to lose, its not like its damaging normal game content (and hope it stays that way
), they can get a few more people playing on this. I dont mind it one bit. I'll continue to buy the full game since I'm a PVE fan *whoops used a bad word lol* and one of the ones that actually enjoyed Factions thoroughly, so ANET can do no wrong lol.
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I just hope their next step is not charging ppl twice for pvp and pve content of the same chapter
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I'd like to see store updates seperated from main updates. Forcing us to leave can get annoying. Esp when you're at a 9 win streak then that message pops up.
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39.99 for the PvP side? Talk about way to expensive, for just ten bucks more you could buy the entire game. I'd say they should reduce this price to around 25 dollers, mostly because I'm a money-grubber.... Nobodies going to pay 40 bucks for the PvP version, when they could buy the entire game for 10 dollers more, its almost a waste of money.
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Gaile Gray
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Originally Posted by Aerian_Skybane
...so ANET can do no wrong lol.
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Kha
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Originally Posted by mrgoat
Think of it this way: If you only play PVE, then logically, you should only have to pay ten bucks. The PVP part costs 40, PVE+PVP costs 50, therefore, 50-PVP=10. I eagerly await my pve only nightfall at the bargain price of ten whole dollars!
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So no, PvE isn't just worth $10.
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Nobodies going to pay 40 bucks for the PvP version, when they could buy the entire game for 10 dollers more, its almost a waste of money.
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Edited to add:
Gaile beat me to it. I'm sad now and going to eat a box of chocolate chip cookies cause -
Gaile's typing skills > mine
mrgoat
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Originally Posted by Kha
Your logic is flawed. The PvP pack would be the price of the skills (whatever that would be) + a price for saving time capturing the skills + a price for saving time obtaining the money to buy non-elites and Signets of capture + a price for saving time getting all the skillpoints necessary to get the skills + a price for saving the time it would take to get enough Balthazar's Faction to unlock them.
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The best you get is comparing your salary to the arbitrary value Anet decided on for the unlocks... which really doesn't get us anywhere, since the unlocks don't actually cost anet a dime. it costs them no more to store ones in a database than it costs to store zeros.
Now that I'm done trolling, I think the pvp packs should cost a lot less than they do, and the pve content ought to stay at full price, since the pve is a superset of pvp. Pay less money, get less stuff , eh? Instead, we have pay more money, get .... the same stuff, just faster. No thanks anet, I, and the places I allow to employ me, decide the value of my time. I'll be getting the full pve version, and spending whatever time I see fit on it. Which, of course, is the whole point.
madman420
Is there any word yet as to whether the Nightfall PvP version will be released at the same time as the full game? If so, I might be tempted just to buy that instead.
Neo Nugget
Well i admit its a pretty good deal.....if i just started and didnt already have the full game id buy it. Ahhh i can see it now.......40 dollars gets you a PVE only account with 1 lvl 20, 5 greens and 100k. That...would be awsome(i know its prolly not gonna happen lol)
discordant
Well, I bought it but it doesn't appear to be fully functional right now, or indeed functional at all. The As & Rt skills show unlocked at a Priest of Balthasar, and I can create a new PVP character that's an As or Rt, but none of their skills are available on the skill selection screen.
Also, a person's time is most certainly worth money, not even taking into account their salary. Each person has a limited amount of time and so any activity they do has an opportunity cost associated with it, representing what they could have been doing with their time instead. This opportunity cost can be translated to money, and is the reason I didn't buy the full version of Factions at this point. Paying $40 is worth more to me than spending the time grinding skills when a new chapter is about to be released.
Also, a person's time is most certainly worth money, not even taking into account their salary. Each person has a limited amount of time and so any activity they do has an opportunity cost associated with it, representing what they could have been doing with their time instead. This opportunity cost can be translated to money, and is the reason I didn't buy the full version of Factions at this point. Paying $40 is worth more to me than spending the time grinding skills when a new chapter is about to be released.
Kha
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Holy Hell! Someone, quick, I need 200 CC's of sarcasm detection for this patient, STAT! Although, for the sake of trolling...
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Instead, we have pay more money, get .... the same stuff, just faster. No thanks anet, I, and the places I allow to employ me, decide the value of my time. I'll be getting the full pve version, and spending whatever time I see fit on it.
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Also, a person's time is most certainly worth money, not even taking into account their salary. Each person has a limited amount of time and so any activity they do has an opportunity cost associated with it, representing what they could have been doing with their time instead. This opportunity cost can be translated to money, and is the reason I didn't buy the full version of Factions at this point. Paying $40 is worth more to me than spending the time grinding skills when a new chapter is about to be released.
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Sanji
I'm glad to see this addition. I would have liked for it to be a little cheaper, but that's just me. I can understand the price being what it is, though. I've had first hand experience seeing how unpopular* this idea is. I attribute this to certain chunks of Guild Wars' userbase being on opposite ends of a seesaw. All taking turns screaming "This is an outrage!" at each other on the forums.
*http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ferrerid=92302
*http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ferrerid=92302
lemming
woooooooooooooooooooooot.
The Great Al
You can get the game for probably 40 bucks now, and aren't pvp unlocks only like 10 bucks anyway? I think the price is probably a ripoff, but since I own both games and will own nightfall, I can't complain. This is something that doesn't effect me or 99% of the GW population in any way, shape, or form, so if people want to shell out 40 bucks for this, then they can go right ahead.
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You can get the game for probably 40 bucks now, and aren't pvp unlocks only like 10 bucks anyway? I think the price is probably a ripoff, but since I own both games and will own nightfall, I can't complain. This is something that doesn't effect me or 99% of the GW population in any way, shape, or form, so if people want to shell out 40 bucks for this, then they can go right ahead.
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While I did say I would like it cheaper, it is now a -steal- compared to what it was earlier.
1) It was something like 10-20 dollars per profession before. Now it is 40 dollars and it unlocks all skills of every profession in that chapter.
2) Previously you had to own the corresponding chapter to buy the unlock packs. Now you can buy the PvP Pack without previously owning that chapter.
So isn't doesn't cost more than 100 bucks to unlock all the skills in a -single chapter- without touching PvE, it is merely 40 dollars with the stipulation that the characters you make for that chapter can be PvP only. Assuming that you do not later buy the regular package to be able to access it. Which I'm sure would work fine for Anet since you basically end up paying them 90 for one chapter.
daraaksii
/me hopes for Nightfall unlock..
Abdul
Do Factions PvP only customers gain access to Alliance Battles / Fort Aspenwood / Jade Ghost Town?
elLOCOmutha
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/me hopes for Nightfall unlock..
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Clusmas
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Do Factions PvP only customers gain access to Alliance Battles / Fort Aspenwood / Jade Ghost Town?
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JR
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It's not just about what you get, but how it is provided, as well. You are correct, you can purchase the full game for just $10 more. But the PvP Edition is not just a PvP version of the game, this is instant unlock of all skills. For that, it's not over priced at all, and in fact, the cost is right in line with what many players commented would be the correct price to pay.
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Originally Posted by mrgoat
The time you spend on playing a game has no monetary value. No one's paying you for it. Unlocking skills costs exactly nothing, as the time you spend doing it is worth no dollars. See, the "time spent farming money or faction" is worth... $0, the time spent running to the priest is worth... $0, the time getting skill points is worth... $0.
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No one's going to pay you for those
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(And by 'bold', I of course mean 'stupid'.)
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The best you get is comparing your salary to the arbitrary value Anet decided on for the unlocks... which really doesn't get us anywhere, since the unlocks don't actually cost anet a dime. it costs them no more to store ones in a database than it costs to store zeros.
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No thanks anet, I, and the places I allow to employ me, decide the value of my time. I'll be getting the full pve version, and spending whatever time I see fit on it. Which, of course, is the whole point.
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Gert Butterfing
Only concern I have is the the Factions only gives access to 6 out of the 8 profession skill sets:
Says the same on both EU and US pages
No Assassin or Ritualist skills then?
Says the same on both EU and US pages
No Assassin or Ritualist skills then?
Cacheelma
I smell typo.
Hengis
Since your Nightfall Heros can use any unlocked skill on your account, if you bought the PVP pack and added it to a full account for Nightfall, would this then give your PVE heros absolutely every skill in the game without you doing anything at all to get them?
I am not sure how I feel about this at the moment.
I am not sure how I feel about this at the moment.
SaucE
I think its a good deal. If you were to but the full game @ $50, then the unlock pack @ $40 to get all the skills plus access to the assassin and ritualist it will cost you $90. The PvP pack gives you access to the assassin and ritualist and all Factions skills unlocked @ $40. Seems like a deal to me!
Nevin
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39.99 for the PvP side?
.....Talk about way to expensive, for just ten bucks more you could buy the entire game. I'd say they should reduce this price to around 25 dollers, mostly because I'm a money-grubber.... Nobodies going to pay 40 bucks for the PvP version, when they could buy the entire game for 10 dollers more, its almost a waste of money. |
lyra_song
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you don't understand, it has EVERYTHING unlocked.
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DreamWind
It sounds fair enough. I don't have too much problem with the cost, it is about right for all of the unlocks and the PvP content. I think this idea is far better than the previous and highly overpriced pvp unlock packs. At least now you also get the PvP content with the skills. My only concern about this new offer is whether or not it unlocks the runes and weapon mods.
My biggest gripe however is this: The people who would pay for this (heavy pvp players) ALREADY have prophecies and factions unlocked. So this really doesn't do much for them. If Anet was to release a Nightfall version of this on the day of the Nigthfall release it would sell like hotcakes. But I don't think they will do that because they want to sell more copies of the regular game. So for those hardcore pvp players who requested this, it doesn't add anything for them because they will still have to grind through Nightfall.
My biggest gripe however is this: The people who would pay for this (heavy pvp players) ALREADY have prophecies and factions unlocked. So this really doesn't do much for them. If Anet was to release a Nightfall version of this on the day of the Nigthfall release it would sell like hotcakes. But I don't think they will do that because they want to sell more copies of the regular game. So for those hardcore pvp players who requested this, it doesn't add anything for them because they will still have to grind through Nightfall.
Phoebe
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Only concern I have is the the Factions only gives access to 6 out of the 8 profession skill sets:
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immortius
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My biggest gripe however is this: The people who would pay for this (heavy pvp players) ALREADY have prophecies and factions unlocked. So this really doesn't do much for them. If Anet was to release a Nightfall version of this on the day of the Nigthfall release it would sell like hotcakes. But I don't think they will do that because they want to sell more copies of the regular game. So for those hardcore pvp players who requested this, it doesn't add anything for them because they will still have to grind through Nightfall.
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Anyone able to report whether the Factions pack gives access to the Factions PvP areas?
Blackhawk
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No, we're not going to start splitting out PvE and PvP and sell them separately; that's not at all what the PvP Edition is about. This is a choice, an option, and one that has been requested since Day One. As everyone says, "Choice is good."
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