I created a monster....

Lordhelmos

Lordhelmos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sentients of Shadow (noir)

Me/E

Acolyte Sousuke.... Psychic Distraction, +15-1 offhand, 1 superior E storage and minor attunements. Powerdrain, Leech Signet.

The results are frightening.... he just interrupted 3 quickshots in a row.

LONGA

LONGA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Thailand

Agot

N/

Just Like Mesmer construct. He can interupt 3 people casting 1 second skills in row.

Lordhelmos

Lordhelmos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sentients of Shadow (noir)

Me/E

Yeah tell me about it, It hilarious to see the termite queen get locked down trying to cast while sousuke is sitting there snapping his fingers. The potential for heros is insane, I can only imagine this in a PVP setting.

On that note I took Olias MMing and he ran the build pro, exploiting every corpse in a split second and constantly upkeeping a 10 minion army....

RIP pugs.

LumpOfCole

LumpOfCole

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Orlando, FL

Rt/

I made Olias an MM too, and for kicks I went MMing... I couldn't exploit corpses fast enough, Olias was too quick.

Lordhelmos

Lordhelmos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sentients of Shadow (noir)

Me/E

Zenmai knows how to flourish as a sin, and critical sword works good on her too. It's funny to see her dragging that huge fellblade around.

Lordhelmos

Lordhelmos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sentients of Shadow (noir)

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by LumpOfCole
I made Olias an MM too, and for kicks I went MMing... I couldn't exploit corpses fast enough, Olias was too quick. Give him deathnova and he will minion bomb also :P. BiP build also works.

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

It's pretty interesting reading this thread right after reading the whining ones. Just shows how somene with any game ability can make their experience in that game a total opposite from retarded idiots without any clue at all.

Die whiners die.

Lordhelmos

Lordhelmos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sentients of Shadow (noir)

Me/E

Yeah im having a ton of fun abusing the heros. The AI for heros is remarkably smart. I gave Sousuke ward against melee in addition to his interrupts and he drops it when the backline is endangered. Try this build with him:

~Psychic Frustration~

Leech Signet
Power Drain
Psychic Distraction <E>
Cry of Frustration
Ward Against Melee
Drain Enchant
Ether Feast
Rez

9 Domination
15 Energy Storage
9 Earth
9 Inspiration

+3 attunement runes, +1 superior rune of Estorage

-1 +15 E weapon and +12 offhand.

Sousuke infinitely interrupts everything and uses leech and Pdrain in order to maintain his E. I mean no 2 second spell will ever be cast, its downright insane. When underfire he throw up the ward to protect the healers and himself. Seriously, he makes Erys Vasburg cry with this setup.

How can you not love nightfall?

Velath

Velath

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada

A/

lol that's awesome guys. I know I was pretty bummed about losing my duo monking capabilities (and not for farming ectos but trying to clear UW) but I already found a new dual UW build...not well proven yet but a few succesful short runs! heh.

And I changed my preorder from standar to collector's today so when I get off work I can go pick it up. I can't wait to get my sin over to Elona and start with my heroes. Although it is sad that PUG's are going to be hurting now...

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

This so totally rocks.

I wanna go back and do Tyria missions with henchmen!

Mahanaxar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Italy

Lupus Et Agnus

R/

The monk Heroes with a decent energy management skill are insane period.
I have both Dunkoro and Tahlkora at level 20 and love them.
Olias at level 16 is way better than any average lvl 20 MM player, and I still have to try some interrupting heroes.

Goodbye pugs.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

Oh.. and by the way..

I ran an infusion run the other night and Little Thom and Stefan were alternating their charges AND keeping up with me (until they got body blocked and killed halfway through the run).

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/

yeah, I noticed that they are quite adept at chain Charge!ing now, which is quite nice.

Lord Palidore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

I'll use this build for him while I can, although I'm sure with the whole infinite interrupt factor, this will somehow be nerfed in the near future.

Lordhelmos

Lordhelmos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sentients of Shadow (noir)

Me/E

umm... yea you saw it there was nothing here....

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Shhh keep it down. Make Anet think it sucks otherwise the Hero's will get nerfed down to hench level in no time.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockster
It's pretty interesting reading this thread right after reading the whining ones. Just shows how somene with any game ability can make their experience in that game a total opposite from retarded idiots without any clue at all.

Die whiners die. *Thumbs up to hockster* I cant wait to get in there and make my own god hero XD but I need to wait until I can get a better connection.. Happy Hunting Guys.

Lordhelmos

Lordhelmos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sentients of Shadow (noir)

Me/E

lol. Ummm yeah, now lets talk about him missing all the important interrupts

or being stuck and spamming psychic distraction and not ever using pdrain.... *whistle*

mega_jamie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

UK

Warlords of Ruin

A/Mo

I took Jin, but this build should work with the Centuar yeah?

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

As long as they are the same profession, it should work. Basically heroes with the same profession are (can be made) exactly the same, only differing in name/appearance.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lordhelmos
Seriously, he makes Erys Vasburg cry with this setup. Erys Vasburg never cries. He Power Spikes your soul with his superior interruption abilities. Speak not ill of Erys Vasburg, or we shall hunt you down and Power Drain your face.

/ramble

ak347

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

To deal with the problem of running out of energy, I have either zhed or sousuke running pure dom interrupts without an elite but using ether prodigy. He runs e-prodigy like a pro, and with tahlkora and dunkoro to heal the post-battle damage, its not even an issue. Kickass AI.

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lordhelmos
Acolyte Sousuke.... Psychic Distraction, +15-1 offhand, 1 superior E storage and minor attunements. Powerdrain, Leech Signet.

The results are frightening.... he just interrupted 3 quickshots in a row. Why the Minor Attunements? Ive been away a while, but I just tested them and they dont provide any special benefit to the random non ele spell I tested them on (smite hex).

xDusT II

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Melbourne

heh.
For added fun add frustration and watch him him spike the crap out of his enemies.

I've also given power drain to both my boon prots because the hero AI is so fast they seem to switch targets, interrupt and return to healing in under a second...


Mesmer Hero Build:

Frustration
P. Distraction
Power Drain
Everything else optional....

Desires

Desires

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

A/

I did that for awhile but searing flames>interupts in fact searing flames> most skills.

-.-

-.-

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lordhelmos
Yeah im having a ton of fun abusing the heros. The AI for heros is remarkably smart. I gave Sousuke ward against melee in addition to his interrupts and he drops it when the backline is endangered. Try this build with him:

~Psychic Frustration~

Leech Signet
Power Drain
Psychic Distraction <E>
Cry of Frustration
Ward Against Melee
Drain Enchant
Ether Feast
Rez

9 Domination
15 Energy Storage
9 Earth
9 Inspiration

+3 attunement runes, +1 superior rune of Estorage

-1 +15 E weapon and +12 offhand.

Sousuke infinitely interrupts everything and uses leech and Pdrain in order to maintain his E. I mean no 2 second spell will ever be cast, its downright insane. When underfire he throw up the ward to protect the healers and himself. Seriously, he makes Erys Vasburg cry with this setup.

How can you not love nightfall? I find that he rarely uses Psychic Distraction.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

I did that for my Norgu. Problem is he never used Power Spike at all, even with enough energy and I didn't understand it.

semantic

semantic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Good tips.

On the general theme of 'things heroes do well', I noticed my Ranger heroes doing a pretty nice job with Healing Spring. Pretty useful in places where there's lots of AOE degen type stuff.

Helios Skyfire

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Everyone Fights No One [Quit]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahanaxar

Goodbye pugs. I'm sure this was exactly the response ANet was looking for.[/sarcasm]

random.name

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

South Africa

N/

I was very loud voice in complaining about the 'farming' nerf. After playing Nightfall and using the heroes I completely withdraw all complaints I made. Its obvious that the changes to the AI was in preperation of the hero system, and not a nerf of farming.

For quests I do not use a single hench. Heroes > PUG + Hench

AuraofMana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Georgia, US

2 Humans + 6 Heroes = Win
Bring 2 Interrupters and 2 Monks, then throw in 2 Warriors with Charge. You will speed through whatever like crazy.

Bringer Of Fury

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

E/

I have found that heroes make very good use of br (blood ritual).
If i use 2 monk heroes i make them both mo/n and put 2-3 points in blood, they will keep each others energy at 7 pips pretty much constantly.
being an ele i noticed that they ignore me and other non-monks in the team and only br each other as well.

random.name

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

South Africa

N/

Thats a sign of smart AI. Monk energy is always the first priotity.

Desires

Desires

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

A/

I agree with the br thing when i give it to a hero they almost alwasy keep it on the monk and will ocadionaly top up an ele when hes low. Instead of the stupid henchice who would run up and br a warrior mid fight. also when I tell him to use it he makes good choices on who to use it on meaning if i see the ele getting low(not low enough for him to use br on his own) usaly he will target the ele with it when i tell him to simply use it.

Jesse

Jesse

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

New York

Vanquishing Memories [VM]

Mo/Me

Talkhora knows how to Boon Prot and Remove Condition like a freaking pro. Shes maintains Divine Boon and always has Mantra of Recall on and when theres healing to be needed she spams RoF or contemplation of purity when there are hexs and such. She does better than some HA people ive played with. These Heros are awsome..

Elithian

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

TART

R/Me

What is PUG?

(yeah, call me a noob now)

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

Pick Up Group. Basically a group formed with random people in the district, as opposed to a Guild team/team with friends etc.

Munanko Roha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

KoH

W/E

PUG is Pick Up Group, a random party made for a mission or a quest in a town.

I love heroes anyway, but I don't think they will completely cancel PUGs from GW, they are the way to add people to friend's list... ^_^

Robin_Anadri

Robin_Anadri

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Atlanta, GA

Girl Power [GP]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by mega_jamie
I took Jin, but this build should work with the Centuar yeah? Keep Jin - skill her up as a touch ranger - she tears up mobs. I was running her vs level 21-24 mobs when she was level 11.

*cackle*

Durik Lakmor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Missouri

Pearl of Great Price

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lordhelmos

9 Domination
15 Energy Storage
9 Earth
9 Inspiration

+3 attunement runes, +1 superior rune of Estorage

-1 +15 E weapon and +12 offhand. I don't seem to have enough points to do this with the 200 attributes I am only able ot have 9/15/9/3