Less and less People Like it...

Kalcium Kid

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

Well after eagerly checking the forums for views on NightFall before i went out there and bought it, i was sadly dissapointed, YES! I thought all posts were good comments on the last page then as i moved further and further along the pages there was more and more ... and more complaints, bugs, rants, even people shouting =O, what does everyone think?

In my opinion the game is probably really good, except the expectations were WAY over what the game provided, they should have held it back until November /December for Xmas and they could have tested all these little bugs people are raving about, what does everyone else think?

And please no 2 word posts of "0MG!!11oneshift! it sux0rz" do you think the game is good, do you think the game is bad, do you think Anet could improve,a nd last but not least do you think Anet did good on this one?

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

i dont think there was any expectations that werent met, and many things are much better than expected. everyone will take to it differently- and I think most of the compliants are due to the updates and not nightfall itself.. most is the key word tho.

Im completely happy with everything myself.

Kalcium Kid

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

Really? What level are you and how far are you into the storyline?

gr3g

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Yes, obviously anonymous complainers on some web board are 100% correct. Why even bother to use your brain when you can just receive your opinion from teh intarweb?

Have you tried playing the game?

ElderSoul

ElderSoul

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

like someone posted somewhere else, I think the reason there are more complaints then compliments is because all the people that really like are currently playing it(unless there at work or school or something) while the ones that dont are here.

then theres people like me that is waiting for it to be delivered or havent gotten it yet....

Kalcium Kid

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

lol Greg people come on here to see each others opinions and actually no i haven't played it, stupid pre-order isn't even a pre-order, it hasn't arrived yet but meh i can wait. And Greg a forum is a place for an open discussion, open, not people just come here to moan at others.

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalcium Kid
Really? What level are you and how far are you into the storyline?
why what level are You?

Ive done every quest on noob island although I dont see how making this personal towards me (for being one of the hundreds of thousands of people who do enjoy it) is really what you should be doing. gg.

broodijzer

broodijzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

void

Mo/

what eldersoul said. I love the game, but I have posted way more about its negatives. Human nature I guess.

Sanji

Sanji

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

I'm not sure if I like heroes and sunspear rank being character specific, but other than that I'm digging it.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalcium Kid
they should have held it back until November /December for Xmas and they could have tested all these little bugs people are raving about, what does everyone else think?

?
these are bugs that they couldnt find and who can say if 3 more months of testing would have shown them up or not?

i can see you in december saying they should have waited untill summer 07 so it would be bug free.

any big software release bugfree?

waits for vista bugfest

<snicker>

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

The negative aspect of anything will always impact us more than the positive. Most of the people who love the game aren't posting on this board because they're probably still playing right now...

... besides that. I LURV this game, it's like falling in love.... all over again.

Ismoke

Ismoke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Fullerton, Ca.

CDXX/THE420TH.COM

Mo/Me

you really got to like a game developer who continually improves their games, ive played many a game and i cant recall any developer that put as much time and effort into thier product as Anet/ncsoft has done, Also they listen to thier consumers and heed the advice and suggestion that we make. This counts for alot in my book. An example of a piss poor Game developer would be EA and there bf2 series of games, these games are good, but if you think Gw has bugs and glitches you should try this game out, patch after patch has done really nothing to improve the overall gameplay, and to top it off the just released bf2142 that has all the original bugs and glitches and then a whole slew of new ones(trust me i got the game) So for those of you sorta sad and enamored about the current expansion, dont fret!!!!

On another note, i really like the skill and profession menu AWESOME, as well as the improved Ai for bots, the visuals are truly EPIC and of course the new Pvp setup cant wait to get home!!!!

GREAT Job ANet!!!!!!!!!!

logik

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

lol i am 100% behind the idea that people that are enjoying it are playing the game and not bothering with forums. I have been reading the forums all day at work, but as soon i get home i will be playing it andwon;t check these pages probably untill monday
Plus i have not seen a single issue mentioned that was bad about nightfall, all negatives are mainly about update bugs and nerfs...

gentrinity

gentrinity

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Colorado, USA

We Kill Boars [XP]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by logik
lol i am 100% behind the idea that people that are enjoying it are playing the game and not bothering with forums. I have been reading the forums all day at work, but as soon i get home i will be playing it andwon;t check these pages probably untill monday
Plus i have not seen a single issue mentioned that was bad about nightfall, all negatives are mainly about update bugs and nerfs...
ditto lol what he said. I'm stuck here at work, reading the forums... but as soon as i get home - i'm playing all weekend.

Shady Rome

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Everygame will have bugs.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Im loving the noob island..its more interesting then the last 2 attempts they made in chaper1 and factions

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

The only complaint i have is that the halloween event distracts a bit me from the new world. Getting too much content at once here!

Velath

Velath

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada

A/

lol i'm at work to, but yah weekend = NF - Saw III. I'll need to take a break from that. Won't be able to pick game up for another 2 hours though... Com'on hometime!

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Every games will have bugs... case in point.. EA and it's Battlefield series!

I'll pick up this game tonight and hopefully by than all the bugs will be gone!

broodijzer

broodijzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

void

Mo/

yeah, pro evo 6 came out today too, 2 games I play a lot come with a new version on exactly the same day... aaargh.

RinkXing

RinkXing

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

United Kingdom

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

N/

I had a feeling people would slam the game for having bugs.

Factions initially had gazillions of bugs on release, most of which were fixed by the weekend (Arborstone doors, anyone?) There were so many people constantly ranting about it all over the place: 'I HATE ANET BECAUSE THEY ALLOW THESE BUGS TO HAPPEN, NOW IT'S TIME TO SMASH MY KEYBOARD, RAGGGGHHH'

You really can't expect this game to be completely bug free upon release. Besides I'd rather be playing Nightfall right now and allow them to fix the bugs with our help, because I'm sure we all know Anet DO listen to what we have to say on fansite forums and the whatnot, which is much more than we can say about some game devs.

By the way, loving Nightfall so far (just finished Venta's) the heroes are really much more handy than the regular henchmen.

dreamhunk

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

:P

E/Me

The game will be a winner for sure!! it feels more like a "rpg" more than any mmorpg out there. Anet is on the right track they have a winner for sure. I am very sure now that worked this product their eyes maybe opened to what they really have.

Anet has hit the major thing that will keep this game going for a long time. the Heros system I bet only add to it. Anet product will only get better over time. The only bad thing is that the quest are like too fedxy.it does lack more end game content for other non-pvp type people. However the over all game play is great, so far.

I am pretty sure this product will be top 5 for sales for sure.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Ugh I hate the negativity. You should be thankful for all the small things that they added that make it better.

-ex. some major updates:
dye previews
-->inscriptions
-->skills and attributes panel
-->reroll PvP stuff on the fly
etc.

Safer Saviour

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

I want Inscription Storage!

I seriously love those things.

Cynicide

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Considering some of the other MMO releases I've seen (Hello Anarchy Online!) Nightfall has been bug free and smooth as silk.

After seeing so many online games come and go I've come to the conclusion that people will complain about just about anything if they're given the opportunity.

Good Job ArenaNet, Nightfall is a huge amount of fun to play.

Teddi

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/E

The only reason why i dislike it is because of the starter island. I felt strange being a Level 20 there.
Im not sure if i will connect with this environment and well as factions though. i guess we will see. Gameplay is solid though.

supaet

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teddi
The only reason why i dislike it is because of the starter island. I felt strange being a Level 20 there.
Im not sure if i will connect with this environment and well as factions though. i guess we will see. Gameplay is solid though.
If you coming from another chapter, the first mission you do is getting off that island

Teddi

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by supaet
If you coming from another chapter, the first mission you do is getting off that island
I know. But then i don't have the island mapped . I'm off the island now, but it was weird at first.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

People bitch for the sake of bitching. I really wish it would stop. I'm probablly not going to be using these forums for the next couple of weeks because the "OMG this game is the sux, I quit forever because of changes to

armor
SS
Salvage system
Titles
etc etc

Ignore them all I say and enjoy the game.

Synthetic

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

I think Nightfall is alright so far. I am still on noob island with my paragon and the game seems to have changed a bit. For one, it appears that skills are obtained the same way as in factions, skill trainers only. With that being said, where I am in game, skill points seem few and far between. Furthermore, it seems like I am grinding more for sunspear points. Generally speaking, it is fun, I think I will enjoy it, but I think I will still prefer Factions to Nightfall.

I know I am not far so take this for what you will. End result, it's more GW and I am happy about that.

ElinoraNeSangre

ElinoraNeSangre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Near Seattle, WA

Talionis De Cineris [EXUR]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
any big software release bugfree?

waits for vista bugfest

<snicker>
I'm waiting for that bugfest, too. I'm a Windows Vista tester. (gah admitting that is probably asking for trouble, but I have to say it after a comment like that!)

Although with that in mind, I can tell you, it's not easy to catch every bug. I've been at it for years, and I'm good at it (you don't live at MS very long otherwise). No matter what you do, and how long you do it, you can't simulate every single scenario that the customer will eventually end up doing. That's where beta testers and real world users come in - they're very important in the software development cycle.

So if you guys find bugs, the best thing you can do is let ArenaNet know!

-kel

Kuja

Kuja

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

MA

Kame

Mo/W

It's a forum...

the people enjoying it are playing the game.

Reza

Reza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Fellowship Of The King [King]

if you wanna see a real buggy game try gothic 3! then you will say: "thank you anet!"

Moist Muffin

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Running for my life because some idiot El aggro'd the beasties and then ran by my monk

GamerzUnlimited [gu]

Mo/W

Its to soon for me to even say yay or nay. I have been on for 3 hours with a new char doing noob island all over again. So far the good outway the bad. I like the new features, its fresh and new. So far thumbs up from me anet. Does anyone even care if a few whiners threaten to quit, good riddance. Your what makes hero's a heaven sent.

Kidney Licker

Kidney Licker

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Europe Server

I didn't really have high expectations for Nightfall as I thought the WPE kinda sucked, but I'm really enjoying Nightfall.

The reason is because I've avoided the starter island. Instead of creating a new character and doing boring tutorial missions and quests, I've taken my lvl 20's straight into the main story.

Once I found the pace I liked playing at, I've enjoyed what Nightfall has to offer so far. I like it better than Prophecies and Factions atm.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

I rerolled everything..no lvl20s for me

The Missing Monk

The Missing Monk

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

Souls of Glory [SoG]

Mo/

Right, I know this sounds freaky (which it is) but from the start this morning till the mission finished at Verta Cementery (if thats the correct name) about 2 hours ago, ive been playing non-stop (except for toilet,eat,drink ect..) because I really enjoy it finding the new spots, the heroes are funny as hell cruised around with my Ranger from Factions and made a new Paragon which I find very cool to play with..ofcourse the funniest part is the drop rate of the white dye price ^_^ ..after that "bug" is fixed i'll probaly continue playing :P

Arif,

rxtracid

rxtracid

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

MoDeStO, Ca

The Rockstar Guild

W/R

Being a programmer myself, I know "exactly" what it is like to release software to public use. Being my companies solo programmer, it is up to me to do the coding/re-coding fixes myself, which means that output will "most assuredly" contain bugs and any fixes possess the potential to cause other bugs. This process is lessened exponentially with each programmer/reviewer you have on a project but can never truly be eliminated. Consider how many software "engineers" and testers work on MS products and how many bugs remain in those. It's a constant battle and should be somewhat expected. The true quality in all of this is how quickly those bugs are fixed/patched. Standard patches from other game manufacturers were usually stacked patches waiting for a certain time/quantity of patches before one would be released whereas GW, patches via their streaming update system making that entire process one of the smoothest I have ever seen.

So..to sum up...bugs will happen, patches will come, don't complain.....

Coocks

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Bucharest, Romania

none

Mo/

How much do you think will it take till all the bugs are fixed ? A day ? Two days ? A week ? Get some sun, then come back and you'll see the new updates

G-Humps

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

[AON] Arch Of Nemesis

W/Mo

i think its sick ... way better then factions haha