bye bye 15% ffs, hod axe

when will unconditional damage weapons get the nerf bat?

i hope its mot anytime soon

won't happen since they are added to the pvp weapon creation screen

the 15% FDS and the HOD were remnants, unnerfed items with imbalanced stats.

the Unconditional weapons will get their turn.

yep, seems inevitable, just there's so few of them and they don't really give an advantage as their owners ain't customised them...but it looks like they will be next.

Good job Anet!! We're finally rid of those unfair items!!

It's a bad thing having rich people get the fun stuff (though i don't wanna start this debate all over in this threat), casual players should not have an unfair advantage simply cuz they weren't able to use glitched/now-deleted items when they were there or are very very rich

Next stop:+15% damage always...was fun knowing you but soon you've got to go


Now if only they got rid of the post searing stuff in pre then I'd be 1 very happy person (or atleast add bags in pre somewhere * * )

There is no need to nerf items that only exist in a small amount. Most of the no negs are in the hands of PvE traders not PvP people.

DreamCatcher , Welcome to the real world. Unfairness lives everywhere

Get over yourself. Name one instance where you felt you couldn't compete because the green weapon you had made it impossible to be competitive in the PvE market or in a PvP arena because .05% of the population had a bonk weapon.

This makes me sad. I will miss my +15 ar HOD bow. I used it all the time and I didn't know anyone else who had one.

Since these items were so rare, I doubt they were too concerned about the balance aspect (they hadn't been for the last two years). I think they were concerned people would try to move the unusual inscriptions to other weapons.

pls stop whining with the" but the rich had ffs 15%"

EVERYONE had its chance at the crafter at that time for an awful cost of 9 gold

geez, blame yer as*

then it was the Hod .... cmon, u r crying cuz u dont have it and on the other hand we got lotsa "stuff isnt the key, only skillz matters in GW"

awesome ...

meh that sucks. wish anet would decide on whether stuff will be nerfed sooner and not well over a yera later knowing full well what they are capable of. Virtually every unconditional weapon's owner I know of does not pvp at a high level so is kinda unfair when they dont really unbalance pvp.

this is ANet's real overall trick...

what u cant control .. destroy it ... this aint a newsflash ...

Witch, kinda off topic but this philosophy shoulda been applied for a lot of things..in real life.

What does this really mean that the game still isn't balanced in favour to PvP?

This game is balanced to the extreme.

To the extreme of whats though to those of the haves and haves nots?

everyone can easily be a 'have', since weapons and armors of the same stats (collector/crafter/rare/green) can all have the same stat

it's just the color and skin, and 'gotta have it factor' that differentiates them....not their effectiveness

The casuals will continue to whine that they want their 15^50 req8 rare skins because that group will never truly be satisfied.

The funny thing is that no matter how much the casuals whine to make the playing field even for them, the hardcore players still outplay the casuals in every aspect of the game. I don't see the point in trying to force equality on everyone. I kinda like having rare and unique items out there. Although I never owned a 15%ffs, 55 Axe, 15AL Bow, or 15% unconditional, I still thought it was cool that those uber rare items were out there. I did own a +5nrg HoD sword and pre nerf rockmolder which I spent way too much on since Anet made them practically worthless later.

agreed ... sry but in a way, the "real" gamers are paying cuz of the casuals

like i said, those items are the proof that ANet cant rlly handle their stuff... look back when there were no rune traders? rune salvaging wasnt 100% guaranteed... etc

now everyone ll have more and more same characters, u dont even need to know the game to get a 15>50 rare weapon, price checks, trades, knowing where u can drop this or that ....
all that is now useless, whiners won

FLAWLESS VICTORY

(at least, i wont be surprised if in a few months Charrs ll drop ectos and Crystallines ll be available in Ascalon stores for 5k )

The game is balanced for everyone no matter how much money they have. Greens are down to an all time low in price, collectors have perfectly usable items, inscriptions are cheaper then anyone thought..skills still cost money granted but money isnt that hard to make in NF, I made 50k on the noob island in 1 day just selling dyes that dropped and items needed by collectors like skale fins for 1k

Nobody has to be an "have not" all they have to do is invest a little time.

What's 15% ffs and 55 axe ?

back in the day a collectors axe had 15% skill recharge build in, was great for farming, but most people never knew about it, anyhow, got changed to 10% and only a tiny amount of 15% FFS existed in game. 55 hp axe had 25hp inherent mod, add 30hp grip and you had 55hp in one hand.

Witchblade just so happened to have 2 of these 15% ffs..didn't you

i feel sorry for ppl who bought my FFSs (lol © Extra Bacon )

@Admins: 2 ? of course not (why is everybody aware of that .. oO )

I think Extra Bacon sold all his stuff before throwing in the towel. I wonder who got stuck with it.

I have a BEAUTIFUL 10% FFS...

Anet hates me. Always has.

Dreamcatcher should read this before he bends over and starts talking out of his ass again:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10022148

Cap, they nerfed your 15% ??

Whichblade, remember this ISNT my first guru name

huh? gimme a hint will ya?

I don't have NightFall I am just waiting for to see what others in my Alliance say about someone has to fight in ABs.

Malice Black I'm a celeb

hmmm i think i heard that once yeah

I'm kinda glad they did it. It's ridiculous that someone can make hundreds of thousands of gold just because they held onto an item they spent what, 100g on?

At least people selling Crystalines earned those drops in a way. Just being a lucky noob who happened to trade some lodestones for a 15% ffs and then becomes rich off it is not how this game or anygame should be.

Cheers Anet.

Well, I hate to see Anerf so inconsequent. Backwhen they changed all the rockmolders (man how I loved that focus on my monk) I felt bad - because I had to carry way more items to do the exact same thing and because my beloved focus was done for... Yet I could understand how much it changed my monkingstyle. I used that bloody thing almost 24/7.
The 15% spitter; I never got to get one in time (true story of procastination till the end, believe it or not) was still around when they did the change to the molders. And now - months later they hit ffs and leave the unconditional weapons alone. Why so inconsequent? What the bloody hell...
I have no problem with balancing, so many skills that I used daily were changed into oblivion countless times: but why can't they just kill all those items that they know of in one swoop? I am sure they knew about 15% spitters when they changed the modlers and of course they know about the unconditional weapons now while changing ffs... the inconsequence on the whole matter is what ticks me off. Bleh, I don't care if they feel the urge to fix all the items they introduced in the past without thinking about how much people will use it - but make up your mind, and do it all - not halfassed. It's like seeing the same bots over and over again after 3 reports...

3 letters: M E H.
Guess why I stay out of such discussions? Because it's just pointless to put any energy into matters that even anet can't solve consequently. GG bit-by-bit-fix!
I am not an angry ranter - I just can't make sense of such policy... Back to the silence behind the curtain with me.
^^

not 100g , 9 g (3x lodestone)

cry more please

This has more to do with people who have been playing this game for a very long time, than it does with a noob trading some lodestones for an item. ANET continues to F**k the longtime players; which I would consider a bad idea.


And yeah Malice, mine is now 10%.

It's not that I really care, it's just irratating have your collection continuously trashed.



*I know about the grammatical error.

the longtime players are paying for the whiners, like i said

that's their mistake ...

really after they nerfed the rockmolder was pretty easy to see where that would take.

if i got one of those i would sold them the day after the rockmolder nerf.

Once I found this lovely build, farming worms in the desert. I was eager to try but found out the person who posted that build used a +10AL bow modded with another armor mod. Since those bows were rediculously high prices I was unable to afford such a bow and thus never got the chance to try out this build

it wasn't impossible for me to farm those worms otherwise but it was a clear disadvantage to me only because I couldn't afford hundreds of plats for this bow. Mind you, there was no equal anywhere else to be gotten from any collector or crafter


capitalist...I suggest you read other peoples comments more carefully next time before starting trashtalk...

was referring to this: while the link you gave me is more about rare vanity skins and fow armor. The rare vanity skins and fow armors will most likely not be removed from the game, nor is this something I'd want to see happening, nor is this something I ever implied.
My position about any items with significantly odd stats is that they should either be available to anyone, or to no-one. Course this doesn't imply that they should be all for free but items with significantly odd stats costing soo much that only, say, the top 0.1% of the community could afford these odd items is something I don't like seeing, and I'm glad Anet finally did something about the majority of these items

+55 axes in my opinion, is (was) a significantly odd stat item...fow armor is not

I don't want to have these (= the unfair) items removed, i'd prefer these items to be reinstated actually BUT it seems Anet has made their decision about these odd items.

The +15% always items should be next...either remove them or (worse) put collectors in the game with +15% always items (with ugly skins :P ) and have them drop again.



And about people wanting those items cuz they are (were) unique...the only real unique thing about those items are their stats...the hod axe still exists and is not craftable anymore..but similar axes are now available to the masses (+5 energy drops in cantha). You folks still have your perfectly unique uncraftable and very rare +5 energy hod axes though...so enjoy

I never had one of the really "rare" or "unique" items but I really liked the incentive to get one of those.

I am not a pvp player... Nor will I ever be (mostly thanks to the juvenile, elitist attitude amongst most pvp players.)
I do not mind an update that caters for the pvp players - but why change items that clearly have no value in pvp play?

The latest installment (nightfall) have a lot of nice features, plenty of eyecandy and all... We even got basic henchcontrol and a new "campain" BUT:
Every single (Anet defined) "rare" item is now common as dirt! If it is not common... go make it!

Anet/NCsoft might think they can make everyone love pvp... I do NOT love pvp and I have no longer an incentive to buy PVE expansions (face it: 1 week of gameplay is easily matched by others)

Nightfall will be goodnight for me, but for those that stick around: Have a lot of balanced pvp fun all (50 or so in a year) of you

(yes - this seems like "Diablo2 revisited" by now)