What are we going to do with money?

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

I Know you all still have thoose ideas on how to make money even after the recent nerfing. I used to SS/55 but now since nerfed cant. now im dead broke and cant afford anything i want. Anyone here wanna share how they are making money now?



PS. i know some of you buy low and sell high BUT now that a lot of greens arnt here anymore or at least they harder to get (BP is aoe).


PS. yes i know u can still buy low sell high golds and other items but i wanna know how u farm to make money

Comrade-Joe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Cleveland Oh

Fin

W/

Iv made alot of money just going through nf campaign pretty easy 2 make money imo.... at the end of Nf i can out like 300k ahead

Reza

Reza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Fellowship Of The King [King]

3 men trapping UW still working i think, try that if you have a ranger!

Mr Slashalot

Mr Slashalot

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

i going to make money they way it was ment picking every thing up and sell to merchant, in some quests i can pick up almost 1k.

it all adds up

Grimarren

Grimarren

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

In front of my monitor.

Knights of the Pearl [KotP]

Same as above. I'm getting plenty of money from just picking up drops and selling them to the Merchant. Add to that, the fact that I've done every secondary quest I've come across so far...

As of yet, I haven't had any money issues. My wife has even come out 10k ahead and she hasn't even reached the NightFall mainlands yet.

BlooDThirsTy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

A Troll Cave

Extreme Destroyers

W/

hmmmm, right now ppl are farming for halloween collector items and selling for 100g each or selling the halloween items for 250g+. there's always troll farming but if ur into FoW/UW solo style maybe u'll just have to find a good 3 man team to do it together. i'm having no issuses getting money since the update, my only prob is finding the time to selling all my stuff i've still got shadow bows and shields to sell and lots of those new runes of vitae. but w/e u do to make money u should time urself and see how long ur spending on 1 run and then look at ur profiets for that run and if ur not making 5k+ an hour find something else.

4ssassin

4ssassin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

none

W/E

well, you could be like me and simply not buy "anything that you want" and be a bit tight with your money. i did that and in about 4 months i amassed 650k with no farming whatsoever and very little selling.

Spydergst1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Chicago

W/R

Running is a good quick way to make money.
If you have a lvl 20 character you can run ppl who are beginners in pre searing. Many of those "new players" are working thier second character and are not new players at all and they just need runs. A lvl 20 can run this pre easy.

If running is not an option then farming works good. Pick up every drop. Use expert salvage kits on anything that does not have a boost. Many item you salvage will get you some rare crafting material. I did two days of farming the same spot over and over I collected about 250 of almost 40% of all crafting material including rare materials (except shards and ectos and jewels).

Do some green farming in SF or Rotscale. Takes longer but you can still me up to 50k in a few hours.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

Bringing over my charcter (<10k) and I was worried about all the skills I need at 1p. But just keeping 1 -2 cap sig and buying as I go along, I've been able to buy all the skills from the skill trainers as progress just by the awards and such.

supaet

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

How did you become broke? what did you buy? Did you really need that? Did you just buy a fow or 15k when you can buy 1.5k?

so you're broke now? What you need money for now? Something you need to buy? what is it? How much money you "wasted" on fow armors?

I just don't get you people. Out of all the things that cost gold in guild wars, what's the most important? to many of you, it will be armor. 15k ones and fow. =.='' I hate people telling me they're broke because they just bought a fow armor. Now they don't have a single plat to buy one skill. or a weapon mod that they need. Come on people, if you don't have enough money then don't buy fow, don't buy 15k. skills > weapons > 15k armors.

c_ras

c_ras

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Eternal Deliverance

R/

The most important thing for me is not armor, but skills. When you bring a character over to a new campaign, you are forced to buy the skills, rather than there being quests that give them as a reward. When they become 1k per skill and you have several characters/accounts over 3 different campaigns, things add up really fast.

I typically don't have a whole lot of money, but I typically range in the 50k-70k range. I have only been to the UW and FoW about as many times as I have fingers on one hand, and I'm not particularly a big farmer. If I need something, I'll usually grind for it, or do a small-scale farm.

If ANet plans to keep these changes, they should maybe change some other things. My suggestion would be that gold is not shared. If you have a party of 8 and you kill a monster and he drops 100g, when you pick it up, everyone gets 100g. They may have to drop how much gold an enemy drops (like 50 instead of 100), but it may help eliminate the whole "farming" thing and encourage people to get in groups to get gold together. It might actually might make things like The Deep, FoW, or UW really fun. Just a thought.

reetkever

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by supaet
How did you become broke? what did you buy? Did you really need that? Did you just buy a fow or 15k when you can buy 1.5k?

so you're broke now? What you need money for now? Something you need to buy? what is it? How much money you "wasted" on fow armors?

I just don't get you people. Out of all the things that cost gold in guild wars, what's the most important? to many of you, it will be armor. 15k ones and fow. =.='' I hate people telling me they're broke because they just bought a fow armor. Now they don't have a single plat to buy one skill. or a weapon mod that they need. Come on people, if you don't have enough money then don't buy fow, don't buy 15k. skills > weapons > 15k armors.
Let's see...

-over 800 skills being worth 1K each
-1,5 armor for 8 characters
-max damage weapons for 8 characters PLUS all their heroes (which is about 7 per character).
-needed stuff like ID kits/salvage kits

That alone is the needed stuff, and it is more than 1000K in total.

Putting that aside, I could use:

-max damage weapons with good/perfect stats.
-luxury items such as golds, Vial of Dyes, 15K armor, FoW armor etc.
-titles
-runes
-getting special armor for special things to do (such as Underworld etc.)

Even when buying the needed stuff, you waste more than 1000K. You just don't realize it cause you gain gold at about the same rate you spend it. However, for stuff like runes, perfect weapons, Vial of Dyes etc, the amount of gold needed is increased tremendously.

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

Pick everything up and salvage, then sell materials to other players. It's all profit (except for the cost of salvage).

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

When playing through the campaign and the whole camp. you really don't need max. out armour.I will use Prophecies as am example the highest armour you just need is either LA,HoD or Amnoon Oasis and this armour is good to beat the game with and keep playing through the game.The reason it is is becuase most mobs AI only uses low AL armour so in essece you don't need Droks armour.The reason it is there is if you tend on PvPing when you ascend

I have been playing a Ritualist through Factions Kurzicks campaign useing armour I bought at Siutung Harbour(sp).The AL of this armour is 45 and it is doing me very well through most of the missions and quests.When I tok my Ranger through Prophecies I used Amnoon Oasis armour for a lot cheaper then Droks and less mats used and being just 9 all different.it got me through 2 campaigns Proph. and Factions I am still useing it working on 15K though.My Rit. is at the Grove mission with that armour btw.

Reza

Reza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Fellowship Of The King [King]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
When playing through the campaign and the whole camp. you really don't need max. out armour.I will use Prophecies as am example the highest armour you just need is either LA,HoD or Amnoon Oasis and this armour is good to beat the game with and keep playing through the game.The reason it is is becuase most mobs AI only uses low AL armour so in essece you don't need Droks armour.The reason it is there is if you tend on PvPing when you ascend

I have been playing a Ritualist through Factions Kurzicks campaign useing armour I bought at Siutung Harbour(sp).The AL of this armour is 45 and it is doing me very well through most of the missions and quests.When I tok my Ranger through Prophecies I used Amnoon Oasis armour for a lot cheaper then Droks and less mats used and being just 9 all different.it got me through 2 campaigns Proph. and Factions I am still useing it working on 15K though.My Rit. is at the Grove mission with that armour btw.
i just hope you dont be one of those ppl who start insulting the monk cuz he cant keep you alive!

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reza
i just hope you dont be one of those ppl who start insulting the monk cuz he cant keep you alive!
What profession do I play and if you look at the droppings of armour on the ground and read them you will see how low they are?

<<<Profession.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by reetkever
Let's see...

-over 800 skills being worth 1K each
-1,5 armor for 8 characters
-max damage weapons for 8 characters PLUS all their heroes (which is about 7 per character).
-needed stuff like ID kits/salvage kits

That alone is the needed stuff, and it is more than 1000K in total.
1. Buy the skills you need. You don't HAVE to have all 800 skills. Shop, figure out what you want ahead of time, and buy them. If you need to deviate, buy the skill or two you need later. No need to buy ALL of them.

2. Use collector's armor. It's free and provides almost all of the benefit of the 1.5K armor.

3. Use collector's weapons. They're free and just as good as the craftable stuff.

4. You can get free ID and salvage kits in the starter island in Factions.

That should solve your "I need 1 million gold just to barely survive" issue.

4ssassin

4ssassin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

none

W/E

Im with jetdoc and supaet on this. reminds me of a time a friend of mine asks me for some money cause she was out, and i say sure. so she comes to gather it and shes wearing a full set of pink 15k glad armor. turns out she was broke yes, but she also had THREE sets of 15k. no sympathy. i refused to loan her the money and now she hates me. I see ppl like her all the time...its so said.

Bokocasso

Bokocasso

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4ssassin
Im with jetdoc and supaet on this. reminds me of a time a friend of mine asks me for some money cause she was out, and i say sure. so she comes to gather it and shes wearing a full set of pink 15k glad armor. turns out she was broke yes, but she also had THREE sets of 15k. no sympathy. i refused to loan her the money and now she hates me. I see ppl like her all the time...its so said.
But then again, it is her own business what is she using the money for... I used to beg for money to a friend of mine... He used to give me 15k all the time for 15k sets. But you know, I used to farm my ass with griffon farming and give them all back :P So yep, 15k sets are nice to have and now after all the pve imba items got nerfed it's really worth having pve char because of the storyline and the different skins of armor and weapons.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Lol you can't make money..I've made close to 100k from Nightfall since release and I havn't left noob island yet. Some people rely too much on other people for builds etc..

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

I think the OP title should be: What are we going to do FOR money?

Was confused when i saw it in the forum listing.

Anyways check out the farming section of the forums, Rangers are taking a larger role in farming these days until they get nerfed that is....

Bokocasso

Bokocasso

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/A

Some people are more lucky than others in drops. One thing. Others just don't know how to make money at all... o.o

MelechRic

MelechRic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

RA

[ODIN]

N/Mo

Seems to me heroes == huge money sink.

If heroes were per account instead of per character it would seem a bit easier on the pocket book.

My advice... just be frugal. Get by with what drops for you and if you find something you can farm... the farm the hell out of it and NEVER ever tell anyone about it.

awelcomecomatose

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

CHICO

Axes Of Evil [AoE]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by c_ras
The most important thing for me is not armor, but skills. When you bring a character over to a new campaign, you are forced to buy the skills, rather than there being quests that give them as a reward. When they become 1k per skill and you have several characters/accounts over 3 different campaigns, things add up really fast.

I typically don't have a whole lot of money, but I typically range in the 50k-70k range. I have only been to the UW and FoW about as many times as I have fingers on one hand, and I'm not particularly a big farmer. If I need something, I'll usually grind for it, or do a small-scale farm.

If ANet plans to keep these changes, they should maybe change some other things. My suggestion would be that gold is not shared. If you have a party of 8 and you kill a monster and he drops 100g, when you pick it up, everyone gets 100g. They may have to drop how much gold an enemy drops (like 50 instead of 100), but it may help eliminate the whole "farming" thing and encourage people to get in groups to get gold together. It might actually might make things like The Deep, FoW, or UW really fun. Just a thought.
Id have no problem farming in groups if the drops were this good. Group farming would take the tediousness out of the whole ordeal and make it hard for bots to make any sort of money. I alway really enjoyed 5 man SF runs while they were profitable. As long as they are making soloing impossible they might aswell make 5-8 man groups profitable.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by MelechRic
Seems to me heroes == huge money sink.

If heroes were per account instead of per character it would seem a bit easier on the pocket book.

My advice... just be frugal. Get by with what drops for you and if you find something you can farm... the farm the hell out of it and NEVER ever tell anyone about it.
Heroes will only be a big money sink if you allow it to happen, heroes don't need to be decked out in perfect gold items etc as long as they have a good variety of skills and some collectors stuff they will be perfectly fine.

hopefulliness

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

legendary knights of vanhalla

W/Mo

I dont think you need to farm for money...
1.I get all my salvage and Id kits from the imperal commondatins in factions
2.You dont need gold items, arena net also thought of this, The new salvage options, so now you dont need to buy that 20k gold, just make your own with what you salvage.
3.You should easily be able to get that 1.5k armor instead of the 15k, they are just as good
4.If you buy all 800 skills, of course you are broke, ANYONE IN THE WORLD WOULD BE BROKE!
5. if its that big a deal, just ebay

Akhilleus

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by hopefulliness
4.If you buy all 800 skills, of course you are broke, ANYONE IN THE WORLD WOULD BE BROKE!
by far, not true.

Quote:
5. if its that big a deal, just ebay
VERY poor advice.


that having been said, BY FAR the most important way to make money...is to save money.
dont spend it on stuff you want, untill you have the stuff you need
i dont care how wealthy you are, if you buy everything in sight, you will eventually go broke. even i have to prioritize which items i want, and (most of the time) refrain from getting copies of already possessed item...because, its a waste of money. and every now and then you need it for some things.
i assure you, it doesnt take much to survive in this game, so long as you arent spending money left and right on stuff thats not really going to improve your character.
Period.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

IMO having all 800 skills is a must..how can you play properly if you are limited to a few skills.

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

just though of sumthing EBAYING IT lol jk

ShaneOfMach

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

The thing I love about heros is that Purple and Worthless green items can be put to good use now.

Instead of buying an item, whenever I find a purple item or gold item that would have gone to the merchant, I just give it to my hero. It's that simple!

I wonder FoW farming still works for ranger...

Anyways, I suggest you just play the game normally and pick up drops. Already finished the game? Do the bonus or get masters. Money comes very easily in this game.

eloc_jcg

eloc_jcg

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Canada

Guards Of The Citadel [GotC]

E/Rt

I progress into the storyline and pick up gold I get along the way. I also sell my mini pets :P. Besides that I don't need anything else. You don't need to buy 'Retardedly Expensive Green Wand of Weakness' You can get a duplicate which is blue and sometimes even better. Same with the 15k armor. You only need 1.5k armor. It makes no difference in stats.

TheIdiotXP

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/

There's always the FoW solo spider build for warriors and 3-man trapping for rangers if you have them. If you don't I think what would be best would be like what 4sassin said to be tight with your money, even though I could never do it because I am bad at saving >.<

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Pick up everything and sell it, builds up after time especially if you have to redo areas for quests and such, or if you fail a mission and have to repeat it. See it time and time again when players don't pick up the whites or stackables and then complain that they never have gold.

And it the later areas of the chapters, ID your white items. Always good to see a white sell to the trader for well over a hundred gold when it would've only been half that had you not IDed it.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

I salvage everything..my mat storage is near full already.

M1h4iL

M1h4iL

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Perth, Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by MelechRic
Seems to me heroes == huge money sink.

If heroes were per account instead of per character it would seem a bit easier on the pocket book.

My advice... just be frugal. Get by with what drops for you.
Thats what Anet wanted us to do since day one, in the end you will get some perfect green and have accumulated many other things along the way. By introducing the broadwalk right before NF, anet managed to stabilize the economy a little to make prices lower, since so much gold went out to npcs, whereas before NF and broadwalk prices were insanely high, 100k +50 ecto for some high end items, and with many new people, how are they meant to afford anything? Now that there are so many greens and perfects everyone can benefit and have perfect gear.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Or think ahead.... and take advantage of the times. I bought TONS of ectos when they dropped to 3k right after Factions released. Now, I have a ton of them, but sadly, I am going to get male dervish fow armor, so alas, I will soon be broke. Play the market. You can easily make enormous amounts of gold playing the traders, the players. I call it Kingpinning the market. I bought 250 of each type of jewel when they were 2.6k-3k ea at the trader. I resold MANY of them yesterday for 3.5-3.8k to the trader. Total Profit= 300k+

I will not give my market strategies out, that would eliminate my kingpin on it, but.... if you learn how the supply and demand track systems work in the economy, you can control the rare mats market. Skins are still worth a lot of money, and with customizeable stats, you can now create a high powered RARE skinned item and still sell it for a lot of gold.

Tommy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Grotto,The Paradise of GW Afkers

Afkers Never [CRY]

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Or think ahead.... and take advantage of the times. I bought TONS of ectos when they dropped to 3k right after Factions released. Now, I have a ton of them, but sadly, I am going to get male dervish fow armor, so alas, I will soon be broke. Play the market. You can easily make enormous amounts of gold playing the traders, the players. I call it Kingpinning the market. I bought 250 of each type of jewel when they were 2.6k-3k ea at the trader. I resold MANY of them yesterday for 3.5-3.8k to the trader. Total Profit= 300k+

I will not give my market strategies out, that would eliminate my kingpin on it, but.... if you learn how the supply and demand track systems work in the economy, you can control the rare mats market. Skins are still worth a lot of money, and with customizeable stats, you can now create a high powered RARE skinned item and still sell it for a lot of gold.
when did they ever drop to 3k? the cheapest ecto i have ever seen is 4.5k
and if you really know about economy, you should know that if people can't make money they can't pay you high right? if ppl can't farm, they can't make money so they can't pay you. 99% of the old rich players neither quit or stop caring items anymore. how can you expect to ask 100k+xxx<3 digits atleast 100ecto here> from them since they can't make money anymore?

Akhilleus

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Or think ahead.... and take advantage of the times. I bought TONS of ectos when they dropped to 3k right after Factions released. Now, I have a ton of them, but sadly, I am going to get male dervish fow armor, so alas, I will soon be broke. Play the market. You can easily make enormous amounts of gold playing the traders, the players. I call it Kingpinning the market. I bought 250 of each type of jewel when they were 2.6k-3k ea at the trader. I resold MANY of them yesterday for 3.5-3.8k to the trader. Total Profit= 300k+

I will not give my market strategies out, that would eliminate my kingpin on it, but.... if you learn how the supply and demand track systems work in the economy, you can control the rare mats market. Skins are still worth a lot of money, and with customizeable stats, you can now create a high powered RARE skinned item and still sell it for a lot of gold.
no offense, but these numbers hardly make you a kingpin, nor do they indicate that you could control the rare material market (i assume you're talking abotu rubies/saphs/ecto) for more than a minute or two.
hell, even i could not "control" the rare material market for more than a few days or hours, pretty much no one individual could.
if you could get enough wealthy players to do the same thing at the same time, and then gradually release more of that particular material onto the market over a pre-determined period of time, you could control the prices of that material, but only for a limited time, and it would cost an ABSURD amount of money to pull this off.
however, if those same people then reinvested in that same material, bought them back up from players at reduced costs, then they could make a substantial profit.
the problem is the organization, time, dedication, risk and followthrough that this would require would not only be extremely difficult, it would probably not make the previously mentioned profit worth the work involved. those same wealthy players would probably make more spending their time trading than doing this.
overall, i think you'd be lucky to make a 10% margin off of this strategy.
(i would hazard a guess that dumping 50million worth of ecto would be enough to influence [not totally control] prices for a few weeks, probably not more than a month, and you'd probably be lucky to make a 5-7mil profit from doing it.

Adornay

Adornay

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Engineered Plague [TEP]

N/R

MUHAHAAHAHA
Its easy to make money in GW, there is no need for farming, i have always made sufficient amounts just playing the game, helping guild members play they're game.

Spader

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/Mo

Making money isn't to tough
1)Kill monster until they drop things for you
2) if it was a white item weapon that you don't intend to use, use an expert salvage kit on it. (swords, axes, daggers, metal shiney things)
3) Take your steel ingot that you don't need and turn it in for gold
4) profit

Or if your trying to make armor repeat through three until you reach number four.

I made 43 plate today since the price of steel went up and i had 216 in my vault. The reason? I knew nightfall was coming and i don't run and change my armor to the new 15k every few months.