So the Inscriptions didn't work out as...

ryanryanryan0310

ryanryanryan0310

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

So the Inscriptions didn't work out as many of us were thinking. Collectors didn't lose the value of there collections. Who lost money and who figured it would only apply to nightfall items? I feel sorry for the mass, who brought items to put inscriptions on them (me included ).

Phoenix Ex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanryanryan0310
So the Inscriptions didn't work out as many of us were thinking. Collectors didn't lose the value of there collections. Who lost money and who figured it would only apply to nightfall items? I feel sorry for the mass, who brought items to put inscriptions on them (me included ).
Sympathy = NONE.

You should've known that the inscription info wasn't 100% complete and that its only a rumor that you can put them onto prophecies and factions weapons.

I am so happy that all those evil jealous people hoping that other will waste all their time didn't get their wish.

Be thankful that NF items will probably be much cheaper compared to factions/prophecies item.

miyamoto musashi

miyamoto musashi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

knights of algier [KoA]

W/A

lets all remember, that guild wars is only but a game, nothing lasts forever, and its not the worst that could happen, or could it?

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Don't worry, if enough peoples complain to A-Net about adding inscriptions to all weapons type. In the future we might see a new update that allow this feature.

Daniel__

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex
Sympathy = NONE.

You should've known that the inscription info wasn't 100% complete and that its only a rumor that you can put them onto prophecies and factions weapons.

I am so happy that all those evil jealous people hoping that other will waste all their time didn't get their wish.

Be thankful that NF items will probably be much cheaper compared to factions/prophecies item.

lmao, hes not asking for sympathy, and for your information I dont consider myself rich, but I have those "evil jealous people" like you said in my friends list who have given me more then enough to let you know they arent greedy

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

QQ more. No, seriously... Because, as is stated below:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher
Don't worry, if enough peoples complain to A-Net about adding inscriptions to all weapons type. In the future we might see a new update that allow this feature.
Well, there you have it. Just like the Material Storage. Though I for one hope it never happens, even though I'd like it to. It'd thrash the economy.

miyamoto musashi

miyamoto musashi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

knights of algier [KoA]

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faer
QQ more. No, seriously... Because, as is stated below:



Well, there you have it. Just like the Material Storage. Though I for one hope it never happens, even though I'd like it to. It'd thrash the economy.
i truelly agree, Anet does value its customers opinions, as long as opinion value there self interest.

Phoenix Ex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/R

The fact that he is not happy that he lost money trying to use the rumor to his advantage, but wouldn't even care if other people lose millions and countless hours of time spent for their own stuff....is what pissed me off.

Pupu

Pupu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Left gw..yawn

W/N

i knew it would be nightfall only, kinda like +5 energy weps was cantha only for most of it

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex
The fact that he is not happy that he lost money trying to use the rumor to his advantage, but wouldn't even care if other people lose millions and countless hours of time spent for their own stuff....is what pissed me off.
Maybe he should have waited for a fact instead of going with a rumor. Sounds like a stock tip gone awry.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
Sounds like a stock tip gone awry.
Where is Martha Stewart when you actually need her...?

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

The information we were given about inscriptions was very vague and investing in rare skins to 'inscribe' always had a risk factor. If you have enough gold to make such risky investments and you then lost out, it is your own problem. I trusted that the development team would be so economically carelss about inscriptions and I think their choices were ideal for hardcore, casual and beginner players.

Bob Whills

Bob Whills

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex
I am so happy that all those evil jealous people hoping that other will waste all their time didn't get their wish.
Anyone else think that blindly spouting off moral judgements is hilarious?

Gamblor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

I'm sure it's only a matter of time before you are able to use inscriptions on all weapons.

Kalki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Summoners of Forgotten Gods

W/Mo

I don't think he's asking for sympathy. He's just wondering who else didn't get what they expected. I can understand Anet not putting in Inscriptions for the first 2 campaigns right away cause it would crash the economies there, and a lot of people with perfect Chaos Axes, Crystalline Swords, etc... would be pissed off. On the other hand, Insignia's should work with all armor.

Sid Soggybottom

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex
Sympathy = NONE.

You should've known that the inscription info wasn't 100% complete and that its only a rumor that you can put them onto prophecies and factions weapons.

I am so happy that all those evil jealous people hoping that other will waste all their time didn't get their wish.

Be thankful that NF items will probably be much cheaper compared to factions/prophecies item.
I love how you're the only one flaming in here. I've seen your past posts whining about inscriptions and now you're here to spew more garbage because your precious stash was threatened. Just look how petty your post was.

UnChosen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex
Sympathy = NONE.

You should've known that the inscription info wasn't 100% complete and that its only a rumor that you can put them onto prophecies and factions weapons.

I am so happy that all those evil jealous people hoping that other will waste all their time didn't get their wish.

Be thankful that NF items will probably be much cheaper compared to factions/prophecies item.
I can understand why he is mad. Something about the first post just screams that he is whining about how he lost money because he took a risk, he even specifically said "collectors didn't lose the value of there collection" right before spouting about his lost, which makes people think he wants people to lose their stuff or something.

Sanji

Sanji

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

Fake internet money is serious business.

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

PvE is serious business.

PvP is serious business.

Darkpower Alchemist

Darkpower Alchemist

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

NYC

The Circle Of Nine[NINE]

E/N

The inscriptions will more than likely apply to all sections of the game eventually, but I would wait for the OFFICIAL GW statement first.

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

Inscriptions only applying to NF weapons is stupid enough, but restricting insignias to NF armor was pointless and essentially killed the point of the damn things (i.e. dislocating stats and skin for armor)...

Sid Soggybottom

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

I also think that eventually the inscription system will apply to all items instead of restricted to NF items. This was just a transition so that those rich hoarders with "uber" Tyrian/Canthan weapons don't go into a giant hissy fit blow out.

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

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I have an idea. Why doesn't anet make it that when you CTRL+click your weaps they show purple/gold/green names? That way you could notice from a natural 15^50 rare from a build up blue one.

Sable Phoenix

Sable Phoenix

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inscriptions and insignia really need to be applied to all chapters as a change to the core design of the game's drops. Otherwise they're pretty pointless and don't really change anything.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sable Phoenix
Inscriptions and insignia really need to be applied to all chapters as a change to the core design of the game's drops. Otherwise they're pretty pointless and don't really change anything.
No, inscriptions are a selling point of NF, making them available to everyone will reduce the chances of Anet making extra money.

To the OP...you took a gamble and lost, grab a hankie, wipe away the tears and stop whining.

Sidra

Sidra

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

CT

NITE

R/

Why would anybody want inscriptions for all armors? It's a Nightfall feature, as are many things in Factions that don't carry over to Prophecies. If you lost money, that's your fault. Sank yoo for sinkiiiing.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

It's funny how everyone wants new content to be added to old games, they fail to understand that new content is the selling feature of the new games.

Addone_Abaddon

Addone_Abaddon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Jersey, Channel Islands

Perfection Is Everything [PiE]

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I think this will be like the material storage, started out in one chapter, but eventually went to previous ones.

Akhilleus

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

the OP is angry that he didnt gain from the losses of others, and then expects sympathy.
i'll pass.

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The problem is not with inscriptions/insignias being NF only but as the way they were made. Tyria and Canthan weapons were not designed for the inscription/insignia system. Thus they would have to redesign each weapon produced. For Nightfall the system did the work while processing the weapon so it worked. Its not as much as they didnt do it as they couldnt

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Addone_Abaddon
I think this will be like the material storage, started out in one chapter, but eventually went to previous ones.
Material storage was an issue long before Factions, Anet just used Factions as an launch area. It's my opinion that inscriptions should stay NF only..chapter1 items are dead cheap now, you can buy r8 15^50 items with good mods for the price of 1 15^50 inscription.

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidra
Why would anybody want inscriptions for all armors?
Because the point of insignias for armor was to let you have any armor skin with any stat, and the armors that need the system most (Tyrian ones) can't use it...

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

To all and everyone who would go on to say things like:

SEE WE TOLD YOU ANET WASNT GONNA SCREW US OVER U WHINING BITCHES LAWL. <3 ANET.

Remember, disscussions bring about changes and for this moment in time inscriptions only affecting weapons found in Nightfall, most players old and new seems ok with it, but it cannot be confirmed for sure that the application of inscriptions to all weapons wont not have been the case if the masses in the forums have voiced against it in these and similar forums/fansites. So remember that changes for the better arent always due to the zealous faith in Anet but good reasonable/constructive suggestions/critisim from discussions....when we are not busy flaming/PvPing each other over in these forums.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter
Because the point of insignias for armor was to let you have any armor skin with any stat, and the armors that need the system most (Tyrian ones) can't use it...
Buy NF armor then. If people don't own NF then they shouldn't get the rewards it brings.

Whiplashr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Whills
Anyone else think that blindly spouting off moral judgements is hilarious?
Only those who are either direct or indirect recpipients of said attacks, who are deeply in denial and seek to find a way to rationalize and shout down the person making the judgement.

The attacks on me for the things I have said simply prove that the truth hurts, and people will do or say anything to justify and rationalize what they are doing. They can't ever belive they are wrong. No, of course not, it's the person making judgment. Ya, that's the ticket.

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

I didn't loose money, I just kept weapons I found that I wanted to mod or get mods from. They just went to the trader. If you try and play the market sometimes you win, sometimes you loose. It may even occur that eventually both side loose (after you get rid of you stuff Anet adds inscriptions into Tyrian and Canthan items). That's speculation/gambling and I can not feel sorry for anyone. Your gonna loose sometimes.

However, I agree that I want them to work on older chapter's stuff. I really like my ele's armor but would rather have different stats. Since the skin isn't available in Nightfall, oh well. Same thing with some weapon skins.

Not a big deal. You could still have them found only in Elona, but I would like to apply them to older characters.

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Admins Bane
Buy NF armor then. If people don't own NF then they shouldn't get the rewards it brings.
Armor inscriptions are un-balancing. Let's take a fictious battle of Minion Masters as an example:

Minion Master One is a Tyrian. He's wearing a SupVigor and SupDeath runes on his AL60 armor.
Minion Master Two is an Elonian. He is also wearing SupVigor and SupDeath runes on his AL 60 armor. Furthermore, he has the inscription that gives +15 armor while controling 5 or more minions.

Both of them have 10 minions, the melee noob ones. What do you think which one has the advantage?



As for weapon inscriptions, those a nice but can be un-balancing too, but not drastically as a +X armor armor inscriptions.
On the topic of losing money - I took a gamble and bought a 20<50 sephis axe from a friend for 10k in hopes of making it 15>50 for my tyrian warrior. I was disappointed but my world didn't crumble because I don't have a 15>50 sephis.

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cataphract
Armor inscriptions are un-balancing. Let's take a fictious battle of Minion Masters as an example:

Minion Master One is a Tyrian. He's wearing a SupVigor and SupDeath runes on his AL60 armor.
Minion Master Two is an Elonian. He is also wearing SupVigor and SupDeath runes on his AL 60 armor. Furthermore, he has the inscription that gives +15 armor while controling 5 or more minions.

Both of them have 10 minions, the melee noob ones. What do you think which one has the advantage?
That has absolutely nothing to do with inscriptions - check out Canthan armors (specifically the one that grants armor bonus based on the number of minions you control).

All the inscriptions do is decouple those mods from the skin - which is a good thing. Factions saw a start to this, Nightfall took it a step further. The only "unbalanced" part may be at what prices each mod stabilises at. If the good mods suddenly become 30+k per armor piece then you can blame that on inscriptions. Even with the new stats they would have just done the Canthan way and had it as an armor set.

It's more an issue of new armors being available in later chapters and new content not being backwards compatible. You can complain about that if you want, but I suspect it will fall on mostly deaf ears. Most of us like new content in new games and Anet wants to sell games - go figure.

Sidra

Sidra

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

CT

NITE

R/

ANet wants to sell their new chapters. They need a selling point, and something special. You want them to take it away and give it to everybody. To people who , some garunteed, others not decided, will not be buying Nightfall. GG to your idea.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by strcpy
That has absolutely nothing to do with inscriptions - check out Canthan armors (specifically the one that grants armor bonus based on the number of minions you control).

All the inscriptions do is decouple those mods from the skin - which is a good thing. Factions saw a start to this, Nightfall took it a step further. The only "unbalanced" part may be at what prices each mod stabilises at. If the good mods suddenly become 30+k per armor piece then you can blame that on inscriptions. Even with the new stats they would have just done the Canthan way and had it as an armor set.

It's more an issue of new armors being available in later chapters and new content not being backwards compatible. You can complain about that if you want, but I suspect it will fall on mostly deaf ears. Most of us like new content in new games and Anet wants to sell games - go figure.
Agreed with you there.

Quote:
ANet wants to sell their new chapters. They need a selling point, and something special. You want them to take it away and give it to everybody. To people who , some garunteed, others not decided, will not be buying Nightfall. GG to your idea.
And agreed there, there is too many people who think everything should be given to them even though they won't go out and buy the chapters..thats nothing to do with balance thats just people wanting something for nothing.