protector of ascalon title

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Yeh, well that was taken off the page for a while and the poster initially banned for hoaxing. The guy talked to me ingame and got a screenshot of the track and mailed it to me while we were speaking. There has since been screenshots of at least 3 H menus, plus the displayed title from the level 20. It could all be an elaborate hoax but I doubt it.. how much more proof should be gathered?

The addition of a new track has not be mentioned in the updates, but how often do they miss stuff out? It seems to be a reward for the few pre-sear nuts who got their characters to level 20.

Elbereth_Tiniquetil

Elbereth_Tiniquetil

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Adelaide, Australia

Holy Champions of Justice

N/Mo

No hoax ref my screen shots, and easy to prove yourself, just go to pre and do the quests until lv 8 then go over the wall until lv 12 when the title progression will show. It only takes 1 day and then you will see it for yourself

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

hmmm I like to give this a try. I wouldn't mind making a Presearing character.

People have told me Mo/Ele is the best for Pre-searing character.

But what skill bar?

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

I would think a hammer W/R with a pet would be the best. Might want to leave the pet at home if you're leveling a moa at the shrine hehe.

Elbereth_Tiniquetil

Elbereth_Tiniquetil

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Adelaide, Australia

Holy Champions of Justice

N/Mo

any class is good for presearing and fighting over the wall, but for your 2nd class monk for the smite skills or ranger as you can use your pet to tank over the wall when you first start to lv up as it is faster to kill charr until you get no more xp from them. Here is a old guide to help you

Did you ever desire a top level character in pre so you could lord it up?
At one time you could get to lv 20 in pre with a lot of hard work and letting the charr kill you, sadly this has now been changed and the max level you can get in pre is 16. Don’t believe me? Here is how you do it.


1) First don’t do any quests until later, you will need the xp to get to lv16

2) When you first start go outside and kill the skale and any aloe seeds.

3) When you get 5 fins get your belt pouch from the collector outside ascalon and go inside sell all your treasure and repeat step 2 until you get to lv 2 or 3.

4) After lv 3 move south towards Ashford Abbey and kill bandits and worms

5) Now you can do the first profession quest to get the main skills, only the first one.

6) At this stage I like to get some secondary profession skill, you don’t need to complete any quests to get them so do not complete the quest yet.

7) Now I like to move my character towards Foibles fair and hunt some ice elementals for the ice loadstones. When you get 5 swap with the collector for your armor upgrade, he can be found just outside Foibles Fair.

8) Zone to Ascalon and go out and head to the West towards The Barradian Estate. On the way kill Aloe for the seeds, save them for the collector in Fort Rank who has your next armour upgrade.

9) Zone to Ashford and once outside move to the East to Fort Ranik. On the way kill the spiders for the legs.

10) Once in Ranik get your Armour upgrades (2) and sell any treasure

11) Now you can take a 2nd profession (make sure you do all the 2nd profession trainers quests for the xp) should be 5 quests not counting your main profession i.e Ele, ranger, war, Monk, Nec, Mes. A good 2nd profession for a pre character is Monk for the smite, Ranger for the pet or my fav a ele as fire storm this still works in pre .

12) Now you can get your last armour upgrade, go to the Ashford abbey and enter the Catacombs. Kill the gargoyles for the skulls and trade with the collector who is just before the Exit that leads out of the catacombs and into Wizards folly.

13) Get a weapon made for you in ascalon and any good caster offhand items.

14) Now find a Friend and go over the wall, If you need I have a high lv Monk in pre who can join you or my necro.

15) Fight charr till level 12, at this stage the fastest way to lv up is to just kill the main Charr who are at the shrine.

16) Repeat step 15 But be prepared to be bored as after lv 12 things will start to take time as you will only get xp from the 4 boss at the fire shrine.

17) Once you hit lV15 you will no longer get xp from here but now you can complete all the pre quests, main skill quests and secondary quests until you get to lv 16.

18) Congratulations you just made your own Lv16 pre character.

you can get lv 20 again but this guide is still valid.

Gusnana1412

Gusnana1412

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

M Cheese [cese]

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Queen Christie
I just found this pic on the page:



Awsome!
This croped SS n censored, I'm the one who put it on Guildwiki.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elbereth_Tiniquetil
No hoax ref my screen shots, and easy to prove yourself, just go to pre and do the quests until lv 8 then go over the wall until lv 12 when the title progression will show. It only takes 1 day and then you will see it for yourself
Additionally, this title not a hoax or something else <_< here other SS
fresh new:
And again another mspaint

Two April Mornings

Two April Mornings

No Luck No Time No Money

Join Date: Nov 2005

Amherst College, MA

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Me/

Wow. I took my mesmer out of pre at 20 way back when. I wish I could go back to get this title. That is a fun title and indeed gives reason to stay in pre.

King's Spectre

King's Spectre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Syracuse, NY, USA

The Amazon Basin (AB)

W/

We just need one lvl15 boss hiding somewhere in the Catacombs..

edit - I guess a 14 would do.. no need to get more XP once you hit lvl20!

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

Seems odd to me. It seems you cannot possibly get both survivor and legendary ascalon defender. Of course this is easier to get... unless you power level, that is.

DreamCatcher

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Netherlands

DVDF

R/Mo

this title track is very real.

Here's another screenshot to prove it

DOA Title Track.JPG

Clone

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Seems a bit suspicious to me too. Can we get an official word from Anet on this title?

Dougal Kronik

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clone
Seems a bit suspicious to me too. Can we get an official word from Anet on this title?
Go out and do it yourself if you still don't believe!

VGJustice

VGJustice

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tyria, cappin' ur bosses

Boston Guild [BG]

R/W

man, I got bored with my Necro when I got her up to level 9 in Pre. Don't know if I'd have the patience for thid title.

Still pretty cool, though.

meowmeow89

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

It would totally kill off someone wanting survivior .

Swinging Fists

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Here's one problem I have with it: The screenshot showing the title progress (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?im...rprooftif8.jpg) is a *** SPOILER ***. Why would ANet tell you in Pre-Searing what is coming ? Now, obviously, we all know about the searing, but it doesn't seem right that ANet would show that on a pre-searing character.

Also, instead of screenshots that can be doctored, why don't the holders of this title specify a time where people can check it out for themselves and put an end to all this back and forth.

I, personally, do not want to take the time to level up a character in pre-searing - that is what forums and wiki are for ... to find readily available information without laboring to find it yourself for hours....

Clawdius_Talonious

Clawdius_Talonious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

I don't see why Anet would implement a title like this and then make it impossible to get.

God Apprentice

God Apprentice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious
I don't see why Anet would implement a title like this and then make it impossible to get.
It's not impossible. The "old method" that Anti used to hit 20 is no longer possible because of the AOE last year. The new method is really slow, but still possible.

Clawdius_Talonious

Clawdius_Talonious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by God Apprentice
It's not impossible. The "old method" that Anti used to hit 20 is no longer possible because of the AOE last year. The new method is really slow, but still possible.
It's been stated in this thread that, since monsters no longer gain levels from killing players, that you cannot get past level 16 in presearing. I'm not going to argue the veracity of either claim, I'm just saying that I do know for a fact that pets no longer level by killing you, and I do know that if all the quests total 10k xp that isn't not enough to get you to level 20 after you can no longer gain experience from killing the Charr.

However you can feel free to enlighten us all as to what the "new method" is for obtaining level 20 in presear

Eviance

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious
It's been stated in this thread that, since monsters no longer gain levels from killing players, that you cannot get past level 16 in presearing. I'm not going to argue the veracity of either claim, I'm just saying that I do know for a fact that pets no longer level by killing you, and I do know that if all the quests total 10k xp that isn't not enough to get you to level 20 after you can no longer gain experience from killing the Charr.

However you can feel free to enlighten us all as to what the "new method" is for obtaining level 20 in presear
capable pets can still gain levels, most are using the moa bird outside Ashford

holyjew888

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Wisconsin

Guardians Alliance [ALLY] now recruiting

D/A

monsters still level you obviously did not thuroughly read this thread

Elbereth_Tiniquetil

Elbereth_Tiniquetil

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Adelaide, Australia

Holy Champions of Justice

N/Mo

The death level is easy to prove, and will only take 5 min, go to the abbey as I said and pull a moa, let it kill you and after a few deaths it will level. If it can level once it can do so again as long as it gets xp from you. Why are people so fast to scream hoax?

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

I think people believed this to be a hoax because this title is a bit on the stupid side.

Getting killed over and over by a Moa to become a Legendary Defender of Ascalon? Waiting for the Charr to kill your Char (...) to take revenge later?

It is not wonder that the Charr overrun Ascalon when the king handed out titles like that for such an odd behaviour.

holyjew888

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Wisconsin

Guardians Alliance [ALLY] now recruiting

D/A

interesting way to think about it

Clawdius_Talonious

Clawdius_Talonious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eviance
capable pets can still gain levels, most are using the moa bird outside Ashford
That's interesting, must only work in presearing then, because I put on 5 superior runes on Shing Jea armor and let a crab kill me a few hundred times and it was still level 5. Then I realized I could cap the crab from Boreas

holyjew888

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Wisconsin

Guardians Alliance [ALLY] now recruiting

D/A

this is wrong cuz it works anywhere, how many times did u let it kill u and what lever were u as well as it

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious
It's been stated in this thread that, since monsters no longer gain levels from killing players, that you cannot get past level 16 in presearing. I'm not going to argue the veracity of either claim, I'm just saying that I do know for a fact that pets no longer level by killing you, and I do know that if all the quests total 10k xp that isn't not enough to get you to level 20 after you can no longer gain experience from killing the Charr.

However you can feel free to enlighten us all as to what the "new method" is for obtaining level 20 in presear
Pets do level by killing you, I tested it a couple of days ago with the moa in ashford. I wasn't really looking but it seemed to be about 12-13 kills for it to go up to level 2, with me being level 1 and wearing no armour.

Clawdius_Talonious

Clawdius_Talonious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

That's interesting, I seriously did let the crab kill me at LEAST a few dozen times before I gave up hope of leveling it that way. I was level 20 and it was level 5, I left the crab killing me with my 1hp (After the initial death, with 5 superiors) and low end armor, for at least 15 minutes and probably more like half an hour while I read up on capturing high level pets and realized I could just go get my crab from Boreas Seabed.

Elbereth_Tiniquetil

Elbereth_Tiniquetil

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Adelaide, Australia

Holy Champions of Justice

N/Mo

At lv 13 the bird will level up after your first 2 deaths, then 5 deaths, the number will go up as the bird levels much the same as you do with other npc kills.At one time some high lv players helped people get a lv 20 pet, took them 2hr to lv the pets up I beleave.

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious
That's interesting, I seriously did let the crab kill me at LEAST a few dozen times before I gave up hope of leveling it that way. I was level 20 and it was level 5, I left the crab killing me with my 1hp (After the initial death, with 5 superiors) and low end armor, for at least 15 minutes and probably more like half an hour while I read up on capturing high level pets and realized I could just go get my crab from Boreas Seabed.
Interesting idea. Though i think lvl 15 pets comes as Elder as Default while your method should result "eventually" with a dire pet evolution. I was gonna suggest that perhaps you want to cast frenzy to half the time spend until i read the 1hp part. A funny method none the less.

In any case all this is going off topic, has any one confirmed that this is a haox otherwise?

Elena

Elena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Belgium

well i guess this will be fun trying to get once nightfall gets boring

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swinging Fists
Why would ANet tell you in Pre-Searing what is coming ? Now, obviously, we all know about the searing, but it doesn't seem right that ANet would show that on a pre-searing character.
I guess you never did read the manual that came with Prophecies, as it did mention many times how Ascalon was destroyed in the searing.
I knew about it even before I started playing.

Relambrien

Relambrien

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Delaware, USA

Error Seven Operators [Call]

W/

Don't forget the first line in the game: "The last day dawns on the Kingdom of Ascalon."

So yeah, it was all foreshadowed anyway.

holyjew888

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Wisconsin

Guardians Alliance [ALLY] now recruiting

D/A

very good discussion guys and thnx for the info, i have started the character (ju is leet) so keep an eye out for him, he is a male mesmer and will one day be lvl 20 in presearing, so far he is lvl 4!
thnx again
-ju

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

the people that go for this title deserve it, it proves they truly have no life and therefor should get their own special title. What is the point of being level 20 in pre sear???

Narutoscryed

Narutoscryed

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

In the woods

Elite Crew

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by MMSDome
the people that go for this title deserve it, it proves they truly have no life and therefor should get their own special title. What is the point of being level 20 in pre sear???

You just answerd your own question.. they have no life..

Elbereth_Tiniquetil

Elbereth_Tiniquetil

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Adelaide, Australia

Holy Champions of Justice

N/Mo

They have no life is not a valid comment. How one player spends time in game is no different from how others choose to spend time in the game, the end result is the same, we all get enjoyment from it.

Many people stay in pre just as a place to talk to other players away from all the painful trade spamming, mush like the grotto. I myself like to dance for your enjoyment Good luck on your lv 4 character if you need help just ask dolls tonight

Hand of Shiva

Hand of Shiva

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Phoenix, AZ of the USA

Exalted of the Unconquered Sun

W/Mo

Hey title is a title folks. If people want to have proof they were level 20 before leaving presearing so be it. Infact I appluade their patience in doing so, even if I could do it I know I wouldn't because I'd have screamed bloody murder out of impatience to kick the hell out of some mob.

That also being said just because your level 20 in presearing don't mean you have no life. After all you get to level 16 you sit there and let the bird kill you 50 to 60 times.... In that amount of time I can get a good 6 hours of sleep in maybe, watch the entire star wars trilogy. Kill the bird go zone come back start the process again and go do something else with my life. Alright so the time is a little exagerated but you get the point.

My thoughts are also will the bird level any quicker if you have two characters standing there taking an ass beating from it? You know twice the number of kills twice the quick leveling?

God Apprentice

God Apprentice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious
It's been stated in this thread that, since monsters no longer gain levels from killing players, that you cannot get past level 16 in presearing. I'm not going to argue the veracity of either claim, I'm just saying that I do know for a fact that pets no longer level by killing you, and I do know that if all the quests total 10k xp that isn't not enough to get you to level 20 after you can no longer gain experience from killing the Charr.

However you can feel free to enlighten us all as to what the "new method" is for obtaining level 20 in presear
Wrong. They can gain levels.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Narutoscryed
You just answerd your own question.. they have no life..
Wrong. I have a job, I have to support my 15 year old sister because her father died in May, which made me head of our household.

Quote:
Originally Posted by holyjew888
very good discussion guys and thnx for the info, i have started the character (ju is leet) so keep an eye out for him, he is a male mesmer and will one day be lvl 20 in presearing, so far he is lvl 4!
thnx again
-ju
Good luck to you, this will require patience hehe if you need help over the wall pm me in game 'God Apprentice"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rathcail
I guess you never did read the manual that came with Prophecies, as it did mention many times how Ascalon was destroyed in the searing.
I knew about it even before I started playing.
Stay in pre and prolong the inevitable

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elbereth_Tiniquetil
At lv 13 the bird will level up after your first 2 deaths, then 5 deaths, the number will go up as the bird levels much the same as you do with other npc kills.At one time some high lv players helped people get a lv 20 pet, took them 2hr to lv the pets up I beleave.
The higher level you are the less time it will take to level enemies

See you in pre Dollz

holyjew888

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Wisconsin

Guardians Alliance [ALLY] now recruiting

D/A

im lvl 5 now and god apprentice some help on over the walls would be nice, ill be on all night, ill just keep killing those bears

Firebaall

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Yea, it works.

With the new title, I wonder if they have any plans on expanding the pre-searing area. New missions or monsters would be nice.