I ask that because well, it would seem that way. It used to be the minimum amount of districts you'd see in Droknar' Forge was 9. When Factions came out it seemed to stay pretty steady around 7 districts. Lion's Arch grew a bit in size since it was the "port/gateway" to Cantha, but at the same time Keineng Center was like the Droks of Cantha. It always held strong with about 10 districts.
Now it would seem with Elona being thrown ito the picture both Droks and Keineng Center are somewhat doomed. I haven't seen Droks jump above "3" districts since the release of Nightfall. I've seen it as low as 2 districts now as well. Keineng Center seems to sit around 4 districts most of the time, even during peak hours. Now this is for USA servers, I don't know how Europe is doing on this part.
I know that Elona and Kamadan attract the majority of people right now, but I wonder if this is a trend we will continue to see. It also makes me wonder if we will see an even bigger hit and a desert town once Chapter IV is released.
Lion's Arch seems safe as the gateway, but what about the rest of Tyria? and eventually the rest of Cantha? Is it doomed? I dunno, but I think we need updates t those game to attract people back in there.. As people mention an SF update or something. Somethign different. Otherwise some of our old favorite towns are going to just simply die.
Is Droks Truely Done for?
Kyosuke
Cottage Pie
For EU there's been about 3-4 instances of droks for the past year, it's down to 1-2 now. it's a ghostown, pretty much.
Arkantos
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Dr Strangelove
I would imagine Kaineng will continue to draw a significant minority of people. It was a more centralized trade location than LA or Droks ever was, and for general trades it still seems like a better place to go.
But yeah, I don't know why anyone would be hanging out in Droks anymore, and everyone left in LA is the 24/7 seller spam bots.
But yeah, I don't know why anyone would be hanging out in Droks anymore, and everyone left in LA is the 24/7 seller spam bots.
ChaoticCoyote
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Lion's Arch seems safe as the gateway, but what about the rest of Tyria? and eventually the rest of Cantha? Is it doomed? I dunno, but I think we need updates t those game to attract people back in there.. As people mention an SF update or something. Somethign different. Otherwise some of our old favorite towns are going to just simply die.
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I predict that Cantha will become a ghost town, home only to farmers, skill cappers, and a few die-hards. You can already see this trying to find mission groups for any of the areas beyond Kaineng. The Deep and Urgoz's Warren are so empty I've given up trying to find a ferry or group. People are not going to want to spend time grabbing faction for big alliances, and I see the entire "faction" system gradually dying off.
No need to worry. There will always be people who buy the latest chapters, and then want the others for skill or exploration. I'm willing to bet that the price of Prophecies will drop in the near future, to entice people who've been introduced via Nightfall.
brokenmonkey
Tyria is our home, and it will always welcome us.
BuD
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Now it would seem with Elona being thrown ito the picture both Droks and Keineng Center are somewhat doomed.
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Cassandra Tanacel
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ANet does not want to attract people to Prophecies or Factions. They want to attract people to Nightfall. When the 4th chapter comes out, ANet will atract people there, not Nightfall, and so on.
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I know Anet needs to make a profit and each new chapter funds the coffers, but a few minor updates to tempt players and reward those that carry on supporting?
my two pennies....
brokenmonkey
How about we pay 5$, so Anet can recap Tyria and make new area! We cant make them go broke on us=)
Oh a GW forum
Lion's arch and KC are still the main trade centers. I don't really trading on the same level in Kamadan. Maybe the Bazzar or something will be the new trading center in Elona, but right now I find I still have to go back to LA or KC.
ischuros
i was in a deserted dis 1 english European distric of Kaineng City yesterday, forgot why i was their though, ahh yes, new Guild halls. I wouldnt imagine Droks will take a big hit, of course in the FIRST WEEK after a release of a new chapter there will always be deserted towns in the old lands. Nolani Academy the other night wasnt bad though. I'd think Drok's will come back as a major trading post. But I'll always want to trade in Vabbi now, just something about it.
Kaineng was always busier then LA or Drok's. I couldnt see a thing with trade turned on, and I often went there to trade. Kaineng is, also, the only real 'city' in the game. All the others just look like small trading outposts, no homes, no buildings, but Kaineng had towering blocks and it was always very bustling. There probably wont be as many people in KC nw, but I would think a new trade city will take over, and of course there is always LA, Los Angeles, i mean Lion's Arch.
Kaineng was always busier then LA or Drok's. I couldnt see a thing with trade turned on, and I often went there to trade. Kaineng is, also, the only real 'city' in the game. All the others just look like small trading outposts, no homes, no buildings, but Kaineng had towering blocks and it was always very bustling. There probably wont be as many people in KC nw, but I would think a new trade city will take over, and of course there is always LA, Los Angeles, i mean Lion's Arch.
Loviatar
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Is that true though? New players who have only bought Nightfall could be tempted to purchase some of the other chapters if they see a few updates added now and again? ...
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a player who buys chapter 1 has the entire new game and would not even notice a few new quests added.
an old player would come back for a few hours at most than complain how little was added.
keep the new chapters coming as they have already said no new content for the old chapters
Kyosuke
Trading purposes really isn't a big deal I suppose, but at the same time these towns are still places that are revered and always have been. Now they're losing anything that was left in them. Without reason to ascend, etc... alot of people may not need to be there anymore, but it is the gateway to the southern shiverpeaks and has always ben a good place to go farm, etc.. it seems that it has been taken away now though...
I can see KC losing all its falre though too.. LA seems to be where it's at...spam city i like to call it.. but meh.
I just don't want to see certain parts of the game die so soon, so easily either, but if no little tweaks are done or nothing new is updated/added, that's the way it's going to be. The troll caves and pwr leveling kept people in Droks before, now that that is gone, nothing else to hold you there.
I can see KC losing all its falre though too.. LA seems to be where it's at...spam city i like to call it.. but meh.
I just don't want to see certain parts of the game die so soon, so easily either, but if no little tweaks are done or nothing new is updated/added, that's the way it's going to be. The troll caves and pwr leveling kept people in Droks before, now that that is gone, nothing else to hold you there.
ateddybear
I love Tyria as well! I would love for Droks and LA to become the "capitals of GW" once again. When I first visited those two cities I was enthralled in the size, look, feel of the place. I will always remeber those places as long as I play guild wars <3
Perkunas
If I only need 2 people and Heros to do the missions in Prophesies, then how do I use the heros. But wait, I need NF to use the heros. If I had NF, then Prophesies becomes old hat, except maybe for titles. Hmmm, do I get NF just to get more characters thru Prophesies or continue as I am? Decisions, decisions.
NoChance
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I think that Heroes may well be ANet's solution to "population spread" and "shift" in Guild Wars. You now need only two people (with Heroes) for a mission in Prophecies. I think Chapter 1 will live on for a variety of reasons, ranging from titles to Drok runs, from infusion to skill unlocking/capping. Frankly, I just like the place, and I know a lot of other people do too....
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As for Tyria and Cantha becoming empty, I'm personally hoping that for Ch 4, Anet will revisit Tyria... they could keep some of the old cities (Drok's) and "rebuild" others (Ascalon City), add outposts, remove outposts, etc. A rebuilt Ascalon could be really cool! (and level 20 charr, of course).
Perhaps for cities that remain unchanged, you could even have people who own Ch 4 and those who just have Prophecies in the same districts (though I can see the potential for terrible confusion in this situation).
leeky baby
im guessing alot of the bots arnt farming trolls anymore which use to make alot of districts for drogs 
MegaMouse
As far as the death of Tyria I realy dont think so. That is where I started when the game first came out and I still like to call it home for the majority of my characters. Something ne can and probably will draw a few players back to Tyria, but it will have to be something that a lot of players want. I think that making the Char homeland accesssable only for those who have Prophecies may give some new interest in it. I would personaly like to kick some Char butt on their home turf.
Mega Mouse
Mega Mouse
Diablo???
What we need, is another Balthazar Island, instead for Trading.
Necromonger
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If I only need 2 people and Heros to do the missions in Prophesies, then how do I use the heros. But wait, I need NF to use the heros. If I had NF, then Prophesies becomes old hat, except maybe for titles. Hmmm, do I get NF just to get more characters thru Prophesies or continue as I am? Decisions, decisions.
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BTW, to stay on topic, I believe the difficulty of doing Droks runs, and subsequent price of runs changing has something to do with the less people as well
Tobias Funke
Ever since Factions came out, the only reason I ever went back to Tyria was for elite caps (I liked factions a lot). I saw no reason to go back to a game i had played for a solid 9 months already. Nightfall will make this issue even more pronounced because it's such a great game. Not only is Nightfall far better than factions, but a great number of people think it's better than Prophesies. The only reason Tyria stayed busy after Factions was because so many felt that Factions was inferior. There's simply no reason to go back there other than elites and racking up titles for KOABD when Nightfall is out there offering a newer and arguably better experience.
Also, Kodash is the most beautiful city in the game. It's a cinch that it will become the new "capitol" of Guild Wars.
Also, Kodash is the most beautiful city in the game. It's a cinch that it will become the new "capitol" of Guild Wars.
Kalki
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ANet does not want to attract people to Prophecies or Factions. They want to attract people to Nightfall. When the 4th chapter comes out, ANet will atract people there, not Nightfall, and so on.
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Just wait until Anet releases a true full world map, cause I think it's inevitable to happen in a future update.
Sir Skullcrasher
I think Tyria will eventually die out since with each new chapters being release, the less districts each town will have.
Painbringer
I love my Trolls so I will be there now and then
awelcomecomatose
Every single town in prophecies seems empty. Before factions even came out half the missions were empty in Tyria. By the time i got through Factions months after it came out( i was turned off by it initially and stopped playing) I found most of the game pretty much empty as well. After beating nightfall I decided to go back and play the game that got me started by starting a new character and fighting all they way through no running no nothing. What I have found so far is out side of Lions Arch and Ascalon the game as a whole is pretty much a ghost town. I remember when I first started playing I sat down to do some quests in Yaks Bend but instead ended up conversing and arguing with the people inside for an hour. You got to yaks bend now and its for the most part empty. The whole game has become empty and in turn a lonely place to I just dont see how they can fix this. Unless they get a serious boost in population the game will slowly become a ghost town.
NoChance
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Actually I own all three, and I use my heroes in Prophecies, I actually find with all three games, I tend to play in Prophecies & Nightfall the most.
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Fred Kiwi
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sorry but that is completely wrong.
a player who buys chapter 1 has the entire new game and would not even notice a few new quests added. an old player would come back for a few hours at most than complain how little was added. keep the new chapters coming as they have already said no new content for the old chapters |
pork soldier
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What we need, is another Balthazar Island, instead for Trading.
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Loviatar
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what he mean't was that new players would see it in the update log and think the game is thriving still and is a worthwhile purchase
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Darcy
I still go back to Ascalon (Explorable) to give away weapons etc to newer characters. I haven't noticed a dearth of people running up for quest rewards in the Sanitarium during the hour I might be there.
Of course, there are less than when I bought Prophecies in February, but that's to be expected with the expanded choices to start a character. I haven't gotten my Dervish off the island yet, but still think that starting a character in Prophecies gives a better learning experience.
Of course, there are less than when I bought Prophecies in February, but that's to be expected with the expanded choices to start a character. I haven't gotten my Dervish off the island yet, but still think that starting a character in Prophecies gives a better learning experience.
Age
I still see some life in Droks not as much as before but I imagine it will pick up.I keep go to Droks when leaving my Hall as it hoem untill Ascalon is restored.It is called the american server not the USA as I am Canadian on the american server.
Clord
Characters need "fun island". Many minigames 24/7. Nice views and large district.
Zethron Ahriman
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What we need, is another Balthazar Island, instead for Trading.
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What we need, is another Balthazar Island, instead for Trading.
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ateddybear
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What we need, is another Balthazar Island, instead for Trading.
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KoalaMeatPie
Thats nothing, my MM is stuck at the mission Before Sactium Cay.
The Most people I've ever seen there recently is about 3. You can't go through Prophecies anymore. At least with other people.
The Original needs something which would make people want to revist.
The Most people I've ever seen there recently is about 3. You can't go through Prophecies anymore. At least with other people.
The Original needs something which would make people want to revist.
electrofish
Wasn't dork one of the venues for the halloween event last year? Wonder if its decrease in popularity was intentional.
gamecube187
Nightfall just came out. Everyone is in Elona playing through Nightfall. Once a lot of people beat Nightfall, we will see a increase in the population of the previous chapters. This will most likely happen every time a new chapter comes out.
Also, didn't Droks become a ghost town as soon as Factions was released? As far as I know, the only reason so many people were there was because of the max armor. Now that we can get max armor earlier in the game, it's just another unpopulated prophecies town.
Sounds awsome! I might even pay $20 for that!
And a trade island that is for all chapters would be nice too. The problem would be getting people to use it though...
Also, didn't Droks become a ghost town as soon as Factions was released? As far as I know, the only reason so many people were there was because of the max armor. Now that we can get max armor earlier in the game, it's just another unpopulated prophecies town.
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And a trade island that is for all chapters would be nice too. The problem would be getting people to use it though...
The Prince
I think Kaineng will retain a large part of its preeminence for trading, at least for a while until more people beat NF and start selling items there. I never go to LA to buy or sell, when i go there its always bots and only a few people, whereas KC i can buy or sell pretty much anything reasonably quickly. as for trading in Vabbi, i agree its the most aesthetically pleasing area in the whole game, i only wish that the garden of seborihn was a town instead of just an explorable.
Faith Angelis
Hopefully Droks will pick up, but I can see the port cities really taking over on each continent as 'capitals' and that means Lion's Arch.
The central trading island is a great idea though.
The central trading island is a great idea though.