Elemental Swords

Zamochit

Zamochit

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/A

Zealous and Vampiric are the best prefixes in the game for warriors. Period.

so so so so so sick of seeing sundering on everything being sold....

also Dead sword >elemental sword Imo
Soulreaver FTW

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zamochit
Zealous and Vampiric are the best prefixes in the game for warriors. Period. You're playing the wrong game. In GW everything is situational. There is NO such thing as best mod, item, armor, etc... If you're fortunate enough to have a collection of weapons for every occasion you'll know exactly what I mean.

Allow me to repeat...
"There is NO such thing as best in GW" Period.

Flowah

Flowah

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Shields Up [IMBA]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zamochit
Zealous and Vampiric are the best prefixes in the game for warriors. Period.

so so so so so sick of seeing sundering on everything being sold....

also Dead sword >elemental sword Imo
Soulreaver FTW You need ebon for warriors.

Vex

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Oregon

Axe looks better then the sword

Avatara

Avatara

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by cataphract
ZOMG, that elemental sword is even uglier than a crystalline and a fellbalde!

Long sword FTW. I totally agree

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

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Fact: People like skins more just because their rare

chicks boy

chicks boy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

No guild

A/E

wow thats a cute sword, is this the new "Fellblade"(Best skin in tyra) and "Zodiac sword"(best skin in cantha) ? Will Elemental sword take place? Lets find out. Farming on torment's house

Captain Arne Is PRO

Captain Arne Is PRO

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Livingston
Has anyone checkled to see if the handles on FDS' that are found after Nightfall was released can be changed?

Livingston
Nope, if you try salvaging one it will say 'you are salvaging a Fiery Dragon Sword...' whereas if you try to salvage a Fiery Fellblade, it will say 'you are salvaging a Fellblade...'

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by chicks boy
wow thats a cute sword, is this the new "Fellblade"(Best skin in tyra) and "Zodiac sword"(best skin in cantha) ? Will Elemental sword take place? Lets find out. Farming on torment's house I prefer the elegance of platinum blades. That and its the best match for a gloom shield.

Stixxx

Stixxx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

According to Wiki, elemental swords drop from a few chests in the Realm of Torment and in the Desolation.

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

That means they can drop from any chest in either place, but the chance is just really low, so some people who don't understand how it works might think it's only from specific chests in specific places.

Tarzan Yamada

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

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You'll never believe this but I looted one from a Margonite chest in Nightfallen Jahai....it was a req 12 or 13....I had no idea about the rarity, but didn't salvage it because the skin was so nice. Wound up selling it for 14K i think because the req was so high....woops.

Xiypher

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Shiverpeak Cartel [Shiv] - Leader

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Margonite chests are the chests found in torment, so its not hard to believe

and that blade was worth 100k easy, even at req 12+

dj deviate

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

ouch that has gotta hurt

MoldyRiceFrenzy

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

i want elemental sword so bad... so poor though... ahh por que!

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by byteme!
Allow me to repeat...
"There is NO such thing as best in GW" Period. True.

There is a worst though.

We call it Sundering.

Cyan The Archer

Cyan The Archer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

R/

Sundering is far from the worst mod..

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer
Sundering is far from the worst mod.. It sucks about as much as furious. And that's a hell of a lot of suckage.

All the elemental mods have a point. So does vamp. So does zealous. So do the condition mods (ok, I really can't see when I'd use heavy).

Furious and sundering are both absolutely pointless. If you want damage go vamp. If you're not using them for damage what's the point.

Morgoth the dark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

[CDEX]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dgb
It sucks about as much as furious. And that's a hell of a lot of suckage.

All the elemental mods have a point. So does vamp. So does zealous. So do the condition mods (ok, I really can't see when I'd use heavy).

Furious and sundering are both absolutely pointless. If you want damage go vamp. If you're not using them for damage what's the point. and why exaclty does sundering suck so much?

aohige

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

GoW

Mo/

Sundering is ideal for spiking/focus attack, mainly used in GvG.
Vampiric is better as a pressure, and since spike is usually not necessary in PvE, is a better choice over all.

I'm assuming he probably don't have much GvG experience, to make a statement like that.

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

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*shudders* i personally totally dislike both vampiric and Zealous mods, especially Zealous.

I see a use for Vampiric atleast but i still dislike it. Zealous has got to be by far the worse weopon mod, sundering is an amazing mod in comparison.

ramma77

ramma77

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

South Shields, England

The Psycho Titans

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade
*shudders* i personally totally dislike both vampiric and Zealous mods, especially Zealous.

I see a use for Vampiric atleast but i still dislike it. Zealous has got to be by far the worse weopon mod, sundering is an amazing mod in comparison. might be the worst for you but it's the best for some.
zealous on a scythe is real nice.
cyclone axe and triple chop with a zealous is nice

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ramma77
might be the worst for you but it's the best for some.
zealous on a scythe is real nice.
cyclone axe and triple chop with a zealous is nice a scythe i could possibly understand, a set of daggers too, perhaps,

but the cyclone, triple chop, well that doesnt work very effectively unless ur solo farming, which in either case even a vampiric, furious or sundering would be better so u can kill them quicker and increase ur money faster.

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

So...this topic degenerated from a post on elemental sword skins to really trashy posts on sundering/vampiric/zealous, which no one Ive seen has posted anything remotely intelligent about?

GG.

GFG.

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark
and why exaclty does sundering suck so much?
Because it does jack all damage compared to vampiric.

Quote: Originally Posted by aohige Sundering is ideal for spiking/focus attack, mainly used in GvG. No it's not. If you assume a three hit chain from an axe, I'd take a guaranteed nine damage every time as opposed to a ~12 damage that only irregularly comes up.

Quote: Originally Posted by aohige I'm assuming he probably don't have much GvG experience, to make a statement like that. You're assuming completely incorrectly.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade
I see a use for Vampiric atleast but i still dislike it. Zealous has got to be by far the worse weopon mod, sundering is an amazing mod in comparison. It's called energy management. If you hit more than once every three seconds you get more energy back from zealous than you lose. Axes attack every 1.33s, that is you get back 2.2 energy every three seconds from zealous and lose 1 energy in degen. You are making a profit of 1.2 energy/3s or just over one pip. That's without an IAS

So in conclusion the reason you use Zealous is because you're using something that requires energy and needs more than two pips to power it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter
So...this topic degenerated from a post on elemental sword skins to really trashy posts on sundering/vampiric/zealous, which no one Ive seen has posted anything remotely intelligent about?

GG.

GFG. I'm not particularly sorry. You want high end discussion, stick to threads which are on a slightly more intelectual topic than e-penis stretching through your weaponry. Sundering sucks, it's a generally accepted view amongst the higher end of the GW playerbase unless I've missed something recently and I'm trying to improve the general level of the playerbase. Do you prefer to let people wallow in their own scrubiness?


For those who are more interested there is a thread at Team-iQ which puts out maths that pretty comprehensively shows that vampiric is better. There are a few people who still argue that the potential of getting multiple sunder-processes in a spike is worth it, despite your spike having issues the rest of the time and there's a potentially interesting idea about scythes/hammers, GFTE! and sundering but for general play, vampiric has been shown to beat the hell out of sundering.

http://www.team-iq.net/forums/showth...id=1319&page=1

Read it and weep sunderscrubs.

ramma77

ramma77

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

South Shields, England

The Psycho Titans

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade
a scythe i could possibly understand, a set of daggers too, perhaps,

but the cyclone, triple chop, well that doesnt work very effectively unless ur solo farming, which in either case even a vampiric, furious or sundering would be better so u can kill them quicker and increase ur money faster. bash some enemies, swap to zealous axe, cyclone them, triple chop them, swap to whatever axe. rinse and repeat.

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Um, not elemental sword discussion, closed.