need a pve monk build

Jesh I'll give blessed light a try.. I shouldn't be so biased

I see what you mean with the energy thing, I'll try a blessed light/healing build and see how it works.. I'll just go piece it together

Sorry I didn't think more about it, just started using 10e spells a lot more lately, and it's been working fine for me

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XvArchonvX, I believe Ensign posted an energy efficiency chart or something on every heal in the game. Heal Party was way up there, you're right. So is Heal Area, and whenever I'm set to heal, I make sure I have it on me. With a little practice, you can estimate the AoE accurately and only hit party members with it. Even getting only 1 other person makes it better than 2 Orisons. (self heal)

Talin, I don't think you'll be dissapointed with Blessed Light. Yes, it's quite different than other monk builds, but you'll grow to love it.
I don't run Divine Boon with BL, but that may be just me. I guess you could try it either way.

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Just run whatever you want, but don't take breeze or mending. Just about anything works in pve: boons, rc prots, healers, hybrids, etc.

whats wrong with healing breeze? there seems tobe random i hate this monk skill stuff going on, eg heal party.. heal party is a really nice skill if multiple allies are taking damage, as u dont haveto individualy heal each one, which may or may not be more effecient, but theres the time and selecting target issue, plus it has huge range too

i currently run dwaynas kiss, sig of rejuvenation, orison, sig of devotion, blessed light, heal party, healing breeze and res chant

healing prayers 14 (12+1+1) devine 13 (12+1)

the weakness of the build would be no "active" energy management, just 2 sigs, and not much in the way of hex/condition removal. ive found conditions are often quickly reapplied in pve anyways, so never dedicated a skill solely to that for awhile.

the res which is aprently awful returns someone with the same health as your current health (521 lookint at my bar) and 33% energy with 14 on healing prayers. plus it has greater range than restore life, and more health (often crucial when raising someone).

for a MM healing breeze is nice to cast on them when u can so they can use blood of the master once or twice more, or bring along heal area aswell

oh and the build isnt using any nightfall skills, cos i havent really looked into them yet :$

I don't care what anyone says, I use this build when healing PvE, and I haven't lost a single group for the past few months regardless of how stupid the PUG was.

Healing 16, Divine Favor 15, +5en axe from the crafter in Divine Path with a +30 fortitude and whatever other mod you want, 20/20 collector's healing focus.

[skill=card]Orison of Healing[/skill][skill=card]Heal Other[/skill][skill=card]Blessed Light[/skill][skill=card]Signet of Devotion[/skill][skill=card]Healing Touch[/skill][skill=card]Heal Party[/skill][skill=card]Divine Spirit[/skill][skill=card]Resurrection Chant[/skill]

Simple and effective. Usage should be self-explanatory.


In areas where enchant stripping is of no concern, and where proximity healing would be beneficial, I sometimes go with the following.

Same stats and equipment as above, except the axe, which you should switch for a Totem Axe in this build. Since the only Divine Favor skill in this one is Divine Spirit, you can replace the Superior DF with a minor DF to compensate for the health that you lose by switching axes.

[skill=card]Dwayna's Kiss[/skill][skill=card]Healing Breeze[/skill][skill=card]Healing Hands[/skill][skill=card]Healing Seed[/skill][skill=card]Vigorous Spirit[/skill][skill=card]Heal Party[/skill][skill=card]Divine Spirit[/skill][skill=card]Resurrection Chant[/skill]

Predict who's going to take the hits, apply HS first, followed by HH on others if needed, stack enchants, and use them as kickers for Dwayna's Kiss. Works beautifully.

just a quick question regarding the "high" energycost of BL and Heal Party. Would it be an idea to use Glyph of Lesser Energy in conjunction with them ? both spells would only cost 5en total. ?? basically you could cast rebirth twice (if you can change target fast enough hehe)

Don't flame me pls :P
(I have used my monk mainly as a 55 farmer, but a bit bored of that, so I want to experiment and learn more of the diversity of the monk.)

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hum, aside from woh-based the only other pve build i really liked was:

blight {e}
rof
goh
ps
mend condition/leech sig
power drain
sig of devotion
<insert soft/hard res here>

forgot the exact attribute spread, but whatever works works
12ish prot
10ish df
7ish hp
7ish inspiration

management can suck if you don't have 'spell'casters around but meh

edit: with nf out ive regained some interest in monking, light of deliverance (i think) looks like a nice situational heal, might want to play with a build based around that, GOLE/hp or somesuch for bulk healing? might be fun~

I'm convinced that every good PvE Monk bar starts with:

Signet of Devotion
Gift of Health
Protective Spirit
Mend/Dismiss Condition

With the rest of the skills not mattering all that much as you don't use them often.

Furthermore I'm convinced that there's nothing in Healing Prayers that's so good that it's worth dropping Gift of Health for.

Peace,
-CxE

[skill=big]Signet of Rejuvenation[/skill]

My quick heal skill of choice.

[skill=big]Orison of Healing[/skill]

The skill all the new monks get first. Do we see the difference in these 2 skills?

Actually,Sig of Rejuvenation has been sped up to 7 recharge,iirc. Also,since most of the people who I use this on are attacking, then the double heal boost for 0 mana is a definite plus. All monks should look into this.

And on to my use of SoJ;

[skill=big]Shield of Judgment[/skill]

I use this for defensive purposes. In the case of warriors or ranged attackers attacking me on the backline, or spiking the warrior/other character on the front line or mid range, this stops that cold in most cases. Also I have avoided being killed due to PuG warriors who don't have the defensive skill to know how to prevent enemies from totally getting passed them and reaching me or fellow casters to prevent the obvious.

When using multiple attributes, Div Fav comes into play as a healing buffer in all 3 lines of spells. If I use a protection hench,I can then Aegis chain by letting the hench cast first. Protective spirit is another obvious spell on the bar that needs little to no explaination.

As stated previously,in PvE you have more versatility to play with your build. Spikes in PvE do exist,so one that plays a monk should realize that spiking doesn't only happen in PvP,but in all aspects of combat in the game.

With 2 signets in play,you can manage your energy well enough to heal and protect for an effective time limit.

Healing breeze,in PvE is quite effective in repressing degen hexes and poison/bleeding. It is a spell I would keep on my bar for the most part.

Once again,I repeat my first disclaimer,I AM AN EXPERINCED MONK AND THIS MAY NOT BE FOR ALL INVOLVED TO USE. This being the case,I don't expect everyone to run the build I run. When I am in the Tombs as a monk,I go heavier into healing,and depend on the rangers and the MM for protection. 10 minions are a better wall than 2 warriors. SoJ is not needed in that build type. Nor is smiting,for that matter.

If I play a Boon monk, then energy management becomes the focus since protection spells need to be recast at a quicker rate,and coupled with Div Fav and the -2 per cast for Boon's upkeep,then you need more E Management. This type of build is also for more experienced monk players.

The "simple but effective" style builds work for general PvE, but are unable to make the transition to high level PvE. Orison is just not very viable in places where enemies may hit in unison for a spike. It just doesn't pump out enough healing imho, at that level of play. Hex removal and condition removal have a place in high end PvE, as well as PvP, but if you are playing a dual monk setup, then 1 should most likely carry HB on their bar,for no less than supression of degeneration.

What's important about a PvE monk build for me is that it (1) has enough slots to equip 2 or even 3 Signets of Capture and (2) that it only uses monk skills, so you can cap any elite without having to change your entire build.

Personally, I'd say Zealous Benediction. It works really well, and has 2 slots that are pretty much empty. What I advice is this:

14 Protection Prayers (12+1+1)
11 Healing Prayers (10+1)
9 Divine Favor (8+1)

1. Zealous Benediction [Elite]
2. Gift of Health
3. Mend Condition
4. Protective Spirit
5. Holy Veil / Signet of Capture
6. Signet of Devotion / Signet of Capture
7. Sunspear Rebirth Signet / Signet of Capture
8. Ressurection Signet / Rebirth / Signet of Capture

I've only taken 4 Signet of Captures once so far, but still, this build is pretty nice with only 4 skills, which you can't say about most builds.

I don't dislike Zealous Benediction, but it really wants you to pump your Prot like mad and makes the Signet of Devotion / Gift of Health combination lose a lot of power. I don't like that at all, since Benediction is the 3rd heal on that bar not the first. I think you basically need to drop Gift to run Benediction and just become a pro at hitting it whenever it'll trigger.

I'm all about riding a ton of Signets of Capture, but I'm unaware of the zone that neccessitates running more than two in Nightfall.

Peace,
-CxE