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NaimaOmadara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/A

06 Nov 2006 at 16:23 - 1

This Is Something Many People Have Been Talking About And Even Some Are A Bit Skeptical As I Was. So I figured I Would Take The Time To Show You All.

People Have Been Hearing That There Is Portal That Grants Access Across The Desert From Crystal Desert (Tyria) To Crystal Overlook (Elona). And Yes It's True. Below Is A Picture Of Portal In The Arid Sea (Tyria).

[Just To Point Out. There Is An Elonian Chest In Tyria XD]

And Here Is A Picture Showing That The Borders Of Elona Are Clearly Not That Far Away From The Borders Of Tyria.

Hope You All Enjoyed This. Haha. =D

Giga Strike

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

stranded in vabbi this time

None [N/A]

06 Nov 2006 at 16:27 - 2

well they kinda do share a border...

topdragon147

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Minnesota

Onslaught of Xen [XoO]

R/

06 Nov 2006 at 16:40 - 3

yep, the map was the first thing i noticed when the pve preview was going on. i have not gotten that far since i am taking it slowly, thanks for the screen!

Kyosuke

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Tomb of Souls

DC

N/Me

06 Nov 2006 at 16:50 - 4

hmmm, sp what does it take to actually travel throughthe portal?

NaimaOmadara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/A

06 Nov 2006 at 16:57 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyosuke

hmmm, sp what does it take to actually travel throughthe portal?

You Can Not Take The Portal From Tyria Unless You Got To Bone Palace (Elona) First, But If You Get To Bone Palace You might as Well Go a Bit Further And Reach The The Portal To Tyria. So In Other Words. You Can't (no point) Go From Tyria To Elona By Desert. To Go From Elona To Tyria The Quest Should Be At Bone Palace. Kk.

Dahl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Ontario, Canada

Exalted Legionnaires [ExL]

06 Nov 2006 at 16:59 - 6

I've shown this many times, but I'll do it again.

I made this before nightfall even came out, I was swift about it.

Although Elona is considered seperate, ALL of Nightfall is in fact the same continent as Tyria. For awhile I just considered Elona a part of Tyria, But I suppose they can still be considered seperate, the way Europe and Asia are seperate but on the same "Chunk" of land.

Elona is to Europe as Tyria is to Asia.

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

06 Nov 2006 at 17:22 - 7

Also Crystal Desert is part of Elona:

QuuTip

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/

06 Nov 2006 at 17:24 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahl

Elona is to Tyria as Europe is to Asia.

If you mean the sizes of the continents, it makes more sense like this.

If you don't mean the sizes... well, then I don't understand what you wanted to say

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

06 Nov 2006 at 17:25 - 9

Thats outdated, old text doesn't mean anything to c3. There are other discrepencies like that

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

06 Nov 2006 at 17:32 - 10

I thought Cantha was china...

Moire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Prague

Gathering of Demons [GoD]

Rt/Me

06 Nov 2006 at 17:44 - 11

its interessting, and realy exciting to see such a view as posted above with the statue

.............. but its nothing new.... logically you could deduct this way earlier only with knowing nightfall is place in kinda desert....

Me by myself would love to see a complete map with locations of tyria, cantha AND elona all together...

gene terrodon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Maryland/DC Area

Farmers Unite [FU]

W/

06 Nov 2006 at 17:45 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahl

Elona is to Europe as Tyria is to Asia.

The correct relation is...

Tyria is to Elona as Europe is to Asia

Bankai

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

Mo/E

06 Nov 2006 at 17:47 - 13

The poster of that meant that while Tyria and elona are one chunk of land connected to each other, they're still seperate. So it's compared to Asia and Europe. One big chuck of island divided into two continents.

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

06 Nov 2006 at 17:49 - 14

what's east of ascalon then? (chap 4 maybe??)
what's north of ascalon then? (chap 5 hopefully - charr stuff again)

Dahl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Ontario, Canada

Exalted Legionnaires [ExL]

06 Nov 2006 at 18:22 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by gene terrodon

The correct relation is...

Tyria is to Elona as Europe is to Asia

Yes that's right.

I'm not comparing them in size, I'm comparing them in the sense that Tyria and Elona are on the same chunk of land, but are still seperate "continents"

Quote:

Originally Posted by prism2525

what's east of ascalon then? (chap 4 maybe??)
what's north of ascalon then? (chap 5 hopefully - charr stuff again)

Chapter 4 will be (for lack of a better term at this point) "The Northlands" which may very well be a comeback against the Charr, but there is no info on that part yet, all we know is it will be situated north. (I believe Cantha is situated Northwest as well, I've found another map relation but I'm a little unsure). So if my info is correct, Chap4 geographically will be north of Tyria and East of Cantha, and nowhere near Elona.

Chapter 5: We have absolutely no leads on. I'd like to see more jungle and forest areas. There aren't enough closed-in forests.

NaimaOmadara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/A

06 Nov 2006 at 18:31 - 16

Oh And To Make Something Clear So People Don't Get Confused. As Far As Text And My "Research" Goes... Cantha Is Not Connected To The Mainlands Of Tyria Or Elona.

Superdarth

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

06 Nov 2006 at 18:32 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaimaOmadara

You Can Not Take The Portal From Tyria Unless You Got To Bone Palace (Elona) First, But If You Get To Bone Palace You might as Well Go a Bit Further And Reach The The Portal To Tyria. So In Other Words. You Can't (no point) Go From Tyria To Elona By Desert. To Go From Elona To Tyria The Quest Should Be At Bone Palace. Kk.

You dont have to start every word with a big letter.(sorry for being an ass

)

And i suspected it aswell,i wish i wouldve discovred it for myself though.

Moire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Prague

Gathering of Demons [GoD]

Rt/Me

06 Nov 2006 at 18:42 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahl

(I believe Cantha is situated Northwest as well, I've found another map relation but I'm a little unsure).

it is not, because as you are told in LA by the canthan merchant at the port, its "south[...], across the OCEAN"

But id like to see that map relation, maybe im wrong or their statments dont fit the truth

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

06 Nov 2006 at 20:06 - 19

To NaimaOmadara:

Stop typing in all caps and bold. Seriously. Now, to everyone who thinks I'm a total loony because OBVIOUSLY it's not in all caps...

The word filter catches people who type every single thing in caps (it has to be every single letter) and owns their posts in that way (makes only the first letters in caps.)

NaimaOmadara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/A

06 Nov 2006 at 20:13 - 20

Red Dots = Portals

Moire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Prague

Gathering of Demons [GoD]

Rt/Me

06 Nov 2006 at 20:24 - 21

BTW, Naima, i see you havent explored prophecies desert... you should, its amazing, especially the border parts in the south

)

NaimaOmadara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/A

06 Nov 2006 at 21:52 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moire

BTW, Naima, i see you havent explored prophecies desert... you should, its amazing, especially the border parts in the south)

Oh I have. It's Just That Was With My NightFall Ele. I Have Done Prophecies Like almost 5 times? Haha. But yeah thanks.

Moire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Prague

Gathering of Demons [GoD]

Rt/Me

06 Nov 2006 at 22:02 - 23

Then im sorry lol.... its just in a little fanatic about the desert, i make chars in prophecies just to skip the whole storyline and go to the desert and ascent on lvl 10... nd spend the rest of hteir lives there, till they get boring

Pjstaab

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/Mo

06 Nov 2006 at 22:04 - 24

For whoever said cantha is NE of tryia it is south.

Articubone

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Venatio Illuminata [VEIL]

Mo/

06 Nov 2006 at 23:58 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pjstaab

For whoever said cantha is NE of tryia it is south.

More specifically, the northwest coast of Cantha is directly south of Elona, as per page 47 of the Nightfall manual.

aodmarshal

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

[AOD] Guild Hall

Elite Angels of Death [AOD]

07 Nov 2006 at 00:16 - 26

HA! You lose!
I looked and pg 47 is about demons!!!
I have no life

Articubone

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Venatio Illuminata [VEIL]

Mo/

07 Nov 2006 at 00:49 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by aodmarshal

HA! You lose!
I looked and pg 47 is about demons!!!
I have no life

O_o I don't know what manual you're using, but in my manual demons are page 45. Try looking at Corsairs, then.

MDeshame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

08 Nov 2006 at 05:23 - 28

I see, I can definatly see how the white boxes with red x'x totally match up with pure speculation.

Interesting read, aside from the 72 pt font posts, the white squares with red X's, and the speculation about the next chapters.

elsalamandra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

15 Nov 2006 at 14:18 - 29

Can someone clarify how does an elonian born char get access throught this god damned telepoter as i cannot find a ny quest, i have tha bone palace, in fact I have finished the game and I a m now intrigued with this.

Does the the great horn of some dude found in the middle of an elemental convention in the crystal overlook has anything to do with this?

Please help me out lol.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

15 Nov 2006 at 14:24 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaimaOmadara

This Is Something Many People Have Been Talking About And Even Some Are A Bit Skeptical As I Was. So I figured I Would Take The Time To Show You All.

People Have Been Hearing That There Is Portal That Grants Access Across The Desert From Crystal Desert (Tyria) To Crystal Overlook (Elona). And Yes It's True. Below Is A Picture Of Portal In The Arid Sea (Tyria).

[Just To Point Out. There Is An Elonian Chest In Tyria XD]

And Here Is A Picture Showing That The Borders Of Elona Are Clearly Not That Far Away From The Borders Of Tyria.

Hope You All Enjoyed This. Haha. =D

Pictures have expired...Would you be able to update so I could see for myself?

Dark Angle

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

15 Nov 2006 at 14:31 - 31

where is the pic?

Trakata

Crimson King

Join Date: Jun 2006

Resplendent Makuun

Song of the Forsaken

15 Nov 2006 at 14:35 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by elsalamandra

Can someone clarify how does an elonian born char get access throught this god damned telepoter as i cannot find a ny quest, i have tha bone palace, in fact I have finished the game and I a m now intrigued with this.

Does the the great horn of some dude found in the middle of an elemental convention in the crystal overlook has anything to do with this?

Please help me out lol.

As far as I can tell, you have to have already gone to the Crystal Desert. Although I've only reached this point with a Tyrian.

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

15 Nov 2006 at 14:42 - 33

Elonian chests have always been in the Desert. It's ANCIENT Elonian chests that spawn in Nightfall.

gabrial heart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Las Vegas

Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]

Mo/Me

15 Nov 2006 at 15:24 - 34

Elonian chars that have not been to the crystal desert in tyria cannot go there or obtain the quest line, nether can canthian chars of the same status. If you don't have proph you can't go there. There is a quest in elona that is tied to the great horn or zaholuma (or whatever his name is) and has nothing directly to do with the portal or the tyrian crystal dessert. There have always been elonian chests in the desert of tyria, they are, afterall elonian refugees. The quest line is to find some remains, then go kill the queen scarab (drops the keptefes [sp?] refuge staff) outside of augury rock and is called "Family Ties" or some sort of thing along those lines.

Heres a pict of the portal in the arid sea on the tyrian side found shortly before the release of nightfall. http://beautifulpeoplesclub.net/phpB...topic.php?t=51

jcjsmc

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Under a rock...

OCG

N/Mo

15 Nov 2006 at 15:48 - 35

Just to throw one in here, but i took a quest off a spirit while exploring, the quest was to find some ones husband,so off i went following the arrows and got to a portal that transported me to crystal desert where i had to kill a bug boss to release the souls of 2 kids all related to the story, then make my way back, al in all the quest took me nearly 2hours.

the quest giver was located in a abadoned town in the next zone after shattered ravines, far West i think, i will try and locate her later if possible and give some more details.

i was planning to go back for the green off the bug boss but don't know if its a tyrian boss or NF exclusive.

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

15 Nov 2006 at 16:10 - 36

I Refuse To Reply To A Post That's All Bold, All Capitalized And All Centered.

If GuildWiki is accessible you might want to check: [wiki]Forgotten Guardian[/wiki]

Gilibran

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Insanity United

E/N

15 Nov 2006 at 23:59 - 37

It's called "Family Soul"

With my Tyrian character i did the quest today, what i read so far confirms what i thought you have to have been at least in the Crystal desert so you have to own Prophecies and i think you also need to be ascended. That said it's a neet and very smart little trick of Anet to try to make those players who have'nt got prophecies buy a copy of it to see what it is all about.

Also, has anyone done the Pilgrimage quest in Crystal Overlook? if you completed it and then go to Augury and go outside you 'll see them standing outside thanking you.

Nice little sidestep wich makes me wonder if there are more

p.s. Kepkheth or someting is a original Tyrian monk boss

Gordon Ecker

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Vancouver, BC, Canada

N/

16 Nov 2006 at 01:45 - 38

Jiaju Tai says Cantha's south of Kryta, and Jatoro Musagi says Shing Jea Island is southwest of Istan. I think it's safe to assume that there's just a typo in the corsair entry. As for the northern areas, they could be north of Cantha (and Kryta) across Giant's Basin, north of Ascalon in or beyond the Charr territories or north of Elona and east of Ascalon. As for the question of what continent the northern half of the Crystal Desert (the part that hasn't been consumed by The Desolation) is part of, the dividing line between Tyria and Elona is fairly arbitrary, with both continents having a reasonable claim on the Crystal Desert.

And Kepkhet Marrowfeast (the bug boss) is not quest-specific, and is the only Prophecies boss outside of Grenth's Footprint and Sorrow's Furnace that actually drops a green item.

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

16 Nov 2006 at 01:52 - 39

That's pretty cool how Elona and Tyria match up like that. Even if it is just a bug... A MAN CAN DREAM, DANGIT.

elsalamandra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

16 Nov 2006 at 14:03 - 40

OK, its now established you need to have been to the crystal dessert in Tyria, fair enough, but, what is the great horn of juhtah for?

My Derv cannot get any single quest in this area.

I went and explored the area in the area where you get the worm elite and found an on outpost there The lost Lair (or summin like that, I am writing this at work).

I am gonna do a few quests here tonight and maybe there is something that is connected to this Horn.

Another question.

If you have a char that has the Crystal Dessert and has not tavelled this far into Elona, can he/she travel from the dessert to elona?

I am going to try that out tonight too.

I will post my findings.

I love enigmas lol