Nightfall PuG Experiences (SPOILERS)

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Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#1
I'd bet that 75% of the players in Nightfall have completed the game with only Heroes. But are you a part of the other 25%? What kinds of PuG experiences have you had in a "single-player" game?

Well, I, like probably every successive post in the topic, have had interesting PuG experiences at the Gates of Madness. (also called THK v2.0)

When a mission often has two districts, you know something's too difficult for the average Joe to comprehend, and it shows.

W/Mos with Mending, Dervishes with useless skills (I had a Mending/Pious Assault Dervish once...)...you name it.

What experiences have you had?
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crimsonfilms
Wilds Pathfinder
#2
Uhm - I have gotten Masters with the Heroes in the first 2/3s of the game - with 1 or 2 pugs.

Full PUGs - uhm let me just say they still can't control aggro and still bringing their farming build.

Decapitate warrior -LOL.
Cataclysm
Cataclysm
Lion's Arch Merchant
#3
I've had a pretty good tiem with PUGs. Sometime I need to give them a tongue-lashing but if they listen we do good.
Keilious Ahruhk
Keilious Ahruhk
Academy Page
#4
So far in NF, I went with a PUG only twice, both times were for Consulate docks.

I was bored at the time, so I felt like going with some randoms. Needless to say, we failed the mission. Badly.
People roaming around with 30AL armour, packing no skills from their primary profession, no use of punctuation or correct spelling, for the most part, you get the idea.
After that disaster, I sat in the 'lobby' and roleplayed a bit, within a couple of minutes I managed to get two other people who played along, we grabbed heroes, and breezed through it, as should be done.
Of course, over here in euro-server -where we only get one english district in mission outposts, which is usually filled with everyone from the french, german and italian districts because there is no-one in their districts- the chances of getting someone like I did is extremely low.

So in the end, I typically don't feel like having to stand around trying to filter out all the idiots. Besides, most of the people who can type properly keep local channel turned off most of the time to avoid having to gouge their eyes out. (For the love of god make us a trading outpost! I'm so sick of traders in local)

As a general tip, if you want a good party, learn to type properly, and invest some time in an effective skillbar, heroes, up-to-date armour, and try actually roleplaying with your roleplaying character, it'll earn you quite a bit of respect from competent players, and if nothing else, you'll have had some fun.
-Loki-
-Loki-
Forge Runner
#5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keilious Ahruhk
People roaming around with 30AL armour
Actually, they were walking around at 80AL. Everyone that does consulate docks is put to 480 (it says 600, but it's 480) health and 80AL, unless they have more than that.
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Banned
#6
Tried Gate of Madness with two PuGs, only fail before even reaching the Portal Rifts. Although I succeeded to beat the mission and acquire the bonus with just my normal Hero and Henchie set up.
Maria The Princess
Maria The Princess
Forge Runner
#7
i was kicked out of a PUG cuz i wasnt B/P for the fast mission (where you beat Abbadon)

LOL
Keilious Ahruhk
Keilious Ahruhk
Academy Page
#8
Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
Actually, they were walking around at 80AL. Everyone that does consulate docks is put to 480 (it says 600, but it's 480) health and 80AL, unless they have more than that.
Oh yeah, you're right. I suppose they must have been using frenzy (and maybe healing signet, never know when you might need the enemy to deal more damage. >.>), doesn't exactly improve my opinion of them anyway. :P
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fatmouse
Academy Page
#9
The best pugs were on the first day. Even though there were only about 3 people in the realm of torment, you could party with them because they were all good. We did the gate of madness and then abaddon on the first try and nobody left in between, try doing that nowadays.
Superdarth
Superdarth
Krytan Explorer
#10
My experiences with PUG's have been catastrophacal,they are never even half as skilled as an AI, they dont seem to possess much brains and i actaully can not fanthom that its humans im playing with!

I mightve had a very bad experience but there basicly just dumbed down AI's.

I tried to socialize ( Thats why i play a online game.) But i never get a response.

So its usually very annoying when i NEED players since you are dead in that scenario, take henchmen, you die, take players, you die, in wich case its a matter of luck ( to run into the right players) wich has in my experience been a process to last for months, indeed it took MONTHS for me to find the group able to pull it through, and i fear im at that stage once again.

What are my experiences with PUG's?Horrible.
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Jade_Onyx
Frost Gate Guardian
#11
PUGs, what are PUGs. /sarcasm
Ya, I read local chat for a laugh, or to help out newer players...that or tell people they are wrong. Other then that I go with guildies/members of our alliance. The rest are filled up with heros (go go mend bots and charge bots lol).
Kha
Kha
Sins FTW!
#12
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatmouse
The best pugs were on the first day. Even though there were only about 3 people in the realm of torment, you could party with them because they were all good. We did the gate of madness and then abaddon on the first try and nobody left in between, try doing that nowadays.
Agreed. Anyone you found in the zone you knew was going to rock at grouping with. People didn't question your build or your Heroes' builds then. Now it's "Click your skillbar! Oh you noob, that's the worst combination ever! Why is Tahlkora set for Prot? We need 3 healing monks!"

It's just tiring trying to group with real players now. So many people don't have faith in PuGs. I guess I just have been lucky and haven't had too bad of experiences for the most part since WPE. I desperately need to find an active, friendly guild now or Nightfall has truly taken the "multiplayer" aspect out of the game for me as far as I'm concerned.
Nkah Sennyt
Nkah Sennyt
Awaken from hiatus.
#13
Myself and my friend did Abaddon and Gate of Madness with a 6/8 PuG, the last were 2 heros [2 necros for Gate, necro + monk for Abaddon]. We all stayed together and worked together and got it done. A great pug - and the only one I've been in since NF release.
McMullen
McMullen
Krytan Explorer
#14
So far my PuG experience since NF release has been good. I've only been in one group where the melee characters attacked everything in sight and ran away from the monks when they needed healing (words cannot describe how annoying that is).

I particularly liked doing Consulate Docks mission, we breezed it even though Dunkoro was level 13 and we only had one other monk.
exiled mat
exiled mat
Krytan Explorer
#15
I've only played together with some guildies when they needed some help.

Henchway FTW!
Zakarr
Zakarr
Jungle Guide
#16
I have done only two master quests and second mission with partial human party. The mission was pretty easy although one of the players tried to kill sunspear ghost all the time but luckily was too weak to succeed. Master quests were about the skales which attacked to the town. We did pretty well, thanks to level 20 warrior, two his lvl 20 heroes and paragon who actually knew what he was doing. I and few others died couple times with dervishes. Skales suddenly snared me and then raped to death.

The main reason why I don't play much with humans is because I'm seeing all this for the first time and most human players don't like if I stop to check the views or read all the dialogs on way. I want to get inside the story rather than blindly kill everything and collect their loot.
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Nemon
Academy Page
#17
I've PuGed virtually every mission, completed over half on first try, and about 30% of those mastered first try. I went back to master the ones i missed with PuGs too, usually mastering on the first try. Only two or three missions required more than two attempts to master.

After most completed missions we congratulate each other on a good job. On missions we fail i try collaborate on how to succeed the second time. Amazing how just my attitude seems to make the difference between every PuG sucking and almost every PuG rocking. To those who have poor PuGing experiences, perhaps you're just not a PuG friendly person.

I'll admit to having a few stinker PuGs, no big deal tho, just people who quit if the PuG fails first time.

Actually i play monk so i probably have the most ability to make up for poor players. I still think my good PuG experience has more to do with my attitude than my skills.

lol @ the guy complaining about players spelling and grammar in game chat.
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xuemin
Frost Gate Guardian
#18
i only PuGed 4 missions; consulate docks and the realm of torment missions, mainly because the ones before just wasn't worth waiting around for hours to get a group together in an outpost full of P's and D's

but when i did PuGed, i had a lot of fun; we'd pretty much stayed together as a team until we completed the mission in question and continued on till the gate of madness mission where we had to go sleep. but the next day got into another team and we kept going at it about 4-5 times and even got masters because we talked about what we were doing wrong as a whole rather than individuals (also the fact that the leechers who joined got weeded out pretty quickly with our failures XD). my luck with PuGs continued the next day in final mission too ^^
FalconDance
FalconDance
Jungle Guide
#19
So far in NF (I have all chapters), I've only tried going out with real ppl three times. (I'm not counting the only time I went out with friends -- a real pleasure .)

The first was so painful that I didn't even go out. The other player was obviouisly a newcomer to GW and had no clue how to get a party together -- seemed to think they would magically appear and ask to be invited (as in no advertising even after being prompted), no clue what was needed for skills or the mission itself, no clue period. I tried, I really did, but in the end, I left the 'party'.

The second was Blacktide. I went out with another player and we hurried through the mission (was he/she a vet of Factions?) and didn't get Masters but we were successful in the end, at least. I then returned and went out with a lvl 20 ele and we owned the mission and bonus in short order.

I'd really rather play with 'real' people, but it's so darned hard to find others who actually have a brain -- and USE it. My ranger is stuck at the Consulate Docks. I've tried it twice -- late at night and was so tired my reflexes were slow which likely contributed to failure a bit. So far every time I've popped in for a look-see, the parties have been demanding lvl 20s only. Well, ok, but my girl is only lvl 17 (or 18, can't remember if she levelled or not). Seems to me that either the mission is so hard that anything less is suicide (and no, it's not) OR there are people with their heads firmly rooted in their arses......
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Ken Dei
Wilds Pathfinder
#20
By the sound of things, it sound like the inroduction of heros as an alternative has in fact forced PuGs to increase in skill.