NF Elite Mission

Here' s the link....

http://www.guildwars.com/community/t...ibe-061116.php

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Speculation:

Nightfallen Ahdashim

a bit more than "some". only half of the article was about it...

Awesome... gold drop rate getting nerfed... get ready to pay out the ass for any semi-rare elonian skin.

I was hoping the elite mission will be assaulting the Fortress of Jahai

Well, more semons to slay is nice too :P

EDIT - ^ The scribe doesn't say they're gonna nerf golds: he's refering to the "triple greens" week-end - D'OH!

Just released in Today's Scribe:

I'm not so sure the scribe meaning the green weekend since greens class as unique.I think maybe next weekend high lvl enemys will have more chance drop drop a 'rare' item or something,i could be wrong though

I'm a tad confused. Anet clearly stated through Gail that the elite mission does not currently exist and won't be added for at least a month, and yet today's Scribe is hinting at how to get to the elite mission as if it's already there? This scribe is just going to serve to further confuse people who haven't seen the message board posts from Gail saying that the mission isn't in the game yet... because there's still nothing (to my knowledge) on the official Guild Wars site stating that it isn't, but now we have a Scribe on the official site hinting at how to find it. O.o
Am I just missing something? It seems to me that the purpose of this Scribe is to re-ignite the pointless "search" for the elite mission that isn't even implemented yet. I truly hope I'm just reading too much into it or something.

hmmm you actully thought this out and it makes a lot of sense but im still confused on how we can get to it like example

in factions u needed to be ferryed will there be something like that in nightfall?

Possibly... I also got the impression from it that you might have to get your character drunk while in Torment in order to get there (a nifty idea).

Don't get me wrong regarding my above post, I don't have something against Anet or anything for the Elite mission not being done, I'm just concerned that people might take the Scribe the wrong way and assume the mission is in the game, then get upset again when they're told it's not there yet. Heck, I read Gaile's posts, and I _still_ got the impression that the elite mission is already there when I read today's scribe. :\ If the Scribe's purpose is to keep the speculation about how to get there alive, great, but I think it came off a little confusing.

IMO, the elite mission entrance is in the Chantry of Secrets. There's a sealed gate there, with a pair of Acolyte guards exactly like the closed gates in towns in Factions. When you talk to the acolyte on your side of the gate, he says that the area beyond the gate is closed to the public at this time. If you hold ALT, you can see that there is a statue to the "god of truth" or somesuch behind the gate. That just screams "new god realm" to me, or possibly an access point to the realm of torment that you need to be rank xx lightbringer or above to use.

Actually, after you beat the final NF mission, you're allowed in there and can kneel at the statue to talk to Kormir but she doesn't offer any service at the moment.

Stupid thread, it does not matter if you do +5% extra damage with lightbringer nor if you have a superior vigor rune or major vigor rune in you armor. Can we just relax now ?

Aw damn, I feel silly now.

And +5% damage may not seem like much, but +15% damage or more is a hell of a lot, especially in this game. Think about how much better a +15% ^ 50% hp weapon is compared to a plain max damage weapon. The damage reduction is nothing to sneeze at either; warriors try to scrape together every point of damage reduction they can, and here you can get up to -8 for free. Lastly, Lightbringer's gaze owns demons, but you obviously need to have a decently high lightbringer rank for it to be really effective as an AoE.

First off I will say that is the worse representation of H.P. Lovecraft’s character Zadok Allen. As the dead sailor of drunk spinning widely tales of the great beyond (what is this some type of farce). I’m not really being that serious of course.

Second of all I agree of course it’s going to be in the realm of Toument as a type of extension; but the exact location is a miss to me.

Precisely my thoughts; +5% isn't much, but 15% is significant and the maximum increase of 40% makes a massive difference, especially with high damage skills...

I know this isn't necessarily a practical example, but a warrior with 16 axe mastery, a customised 15^50 axe and r8 LB, unleashes Decapitate on a Margonite spellcaster. Decapitate at 16am is nasty. Decapitate at 16am +40% damage is an execution...

At 25% Damage I'm hitting Margonite spellcasters for..about 90-105 damage on crit hits with a 15^50 sword at 13 swords. That's using a +36 damage skill.

I imagine a zone with Uber demons with alot of HP and dmg, where high lvl Lightbringer will be the difference between taking 5 hours to compelte it and taking the normal 1-2.

I imagine wrong alot though

Hmm, so the new mission involves Demons, Torment Realm, Whispers, Gems and a small cup of Pirates.

As is mentioned before and I said myself: probably the starting point for this mission will be in Chantry of Secrets, only available after you completed the game. Access to this part is similar to access to Factions Elite missions. By getting here, you should have at least had rank 2 in LB points, anyone who doesnt have it yet, is plain STOOOPID.

It will be played in the Realm of Torment, which is quite clearly stated by Anet above. Stygian keys will probably used here.

The enemies will probably have a small chance to drop gems (though greater then other enemies have that chance),which are Rubies, Diamonds and Sapphires, very similar to Obsidian Shards dropping in FoW and Ecto's dropping in UW/Tombs.

Probably we will run into one-legged Corsair NPC's with quests to find some loot for them.


AND OFCOURSE GWEN, EVIL PIRATE QUEEN!!!

Looking at all the posts here and am lost, stop posting things that have noting to do with the elite mission. First off the gate to the mission is in the realm of torment and ONLY THERE YOU MAY access it. Now stop with the remarks to the hidden city or the nightfall city cuz the mission don't have anything to do with loot. The loot comes from the chests in there that are 1.5k to get, and rarely do they drop off mobs in there. Then the greens well there always for the melee class so i don't see how you will get loot if you with 12 people anyway.


Plus this elite mission is 100% done when it comes out, unlike the missions in factions who were at 30% done as in content and was missing like tons of stuff that was planned to be added in. This mission will not be as easy as the deep, that i can tell you now so you don't think this will be some stupid mission were people go in and get loot off the bat.


First off there needs to be no gate to enter a mission like this, it can be simple quest/npc that you find out there that lets u in, look at the hidden city gate if you dont look there you wont of known there was a gate there. I think i wait in till the update and see if it says elite mission open, or they server-side open the mission and was update in forms of them 4 patches in parts.


It has to be today the update, look at how long we are with no updates, it Friday and i know for anet comes out with a patch each week. Also the scribe says it will tells us more next week, that means it come out today, i hope as it was hinting at that. Also the order is us not the npcs as were allied with the order so better get ready to night for some elite mission hinting and i ask people to go look around the vortex "DRUNK" now if they server-sided this as it seems they did do a lot of server-side add-ons to nightfall.

Gaile stated last night an update was coming today and the elite mission will not be a part of it. 2-3 months time, so don't hold your breath.

to me it sounds like you need to find 2 of those 4 pieces that was discussed before, the map and the drink. Sounds like you need to trade the map to someone and drink from the jug.

The question of whether or not this means the elite will be in sooner than mentioned is still up in the air though.

The corsair spirit also mentioned that you had to be dead to enter the area.

Btw, from what I've heard the max title on Lightbringer is Holy Lightbringer at 100k points, don't know if it's possible to reach, and someone said that you can't have higher then rank 6 now, I've seen a rank 7 Revered Lightbringer.

Uh, I don't remember the Elite mission being incomplete when my guild leader and some folks from Bkbd beat it for the first time ever? What part of the game was incomplete? I beat Factions during the Early Access Launch so I'm pretty sure it was all there.....

Uh, the max is not 100k. The max is 50k. Go read the thread in the Elonian Exploration forum.

I don't see why everyone is so pissed off that there is going to be discrimination. Discrimination happens in real life and will happen in gw.

When you apply for a job you don't think they compare you to other candidates? Is that not discrimation?

Given you have two guys with near identical resumes, same kind of work experience, how will you decide which one to hire? It is only logical to pick someone who can benefit your group more. Given you have no knowledge of the player's actual experience, would u pick a rank 2 or a rank 7?

in anycase i am wondering what the new gems would be for perhaps another FOW-esq armor crafter and hopefully end of elite mission green for the caster classes!

edit for my horrible grammar.

Post the link to were gaile posted about the elite mission not in this update.

I'd be VERY unhappy if any title was required to enter the Elite mission. Lightbringer and Sunspear aren't account-based so you'd have to grind the title on every character you wanted to play the elite mission. Grind was needed for the elite missions in factions and people complained. I thought the PC Gamer (or a Gaile statement or something, I know I read it somewhere) said the NF Elite mission would be easier to access than the Factions ones.

IMO it makes much more sense to allow elite mission access after beating the game. Would give another incentive (besides the subpar greens) to bring characters through, and could be a use for the new statue.

Mostly speculation at this point. However, I own demons roughly just as fast on my mesmer with no lightbringer as I do with it, so I don't forsee it to be a huge problem. (Of course I could be wrong)

Even so, seeing as the elite mission is supposed to be the "end game" it would make sense for you to have to do some serious PvE work in order for you to be able to access it. This is actually what players have been requesting instead of the Faction-grind that was in the previous campaign.

Rank 7 Lightbringer wasn't too hard to get... don't really see myself farming the next rank unless ppl start discriminating against me though :P

On a point of carification here... I'm going to discriminate agains ppl below rank 4 simply because it's so easy to grind a thousand or so lighbringer points that anyone who can't be bothered to gind them... well lets just say I can't be bothered to group them.

Your prerogative, and I suppose reasonable when getting in a PUG.




(Did I need another reason to only group with guild/alliance? They'll let me play no matter what rank. Even if it takes us 5 hours, so be it. At least I like my teammates and enjoy the ride.)

I think the point people are trying to make here is that even though the elite missions WILL be accessable just by getting to torment, no one will group you if you don't have a decent lightbringer rank... the reason being that lightbringer's gaze is quite uber for classes that don't normally have access to high dmg, low energy cost ae (like barrage or ele spells). Moreover, the dmg bonus stacks quite nicely by the time you reach ranks like 7... and that lightbringer signet that you were so dissapointed in at rank 3 gets quite useful when you consider that hitting it can give you a full charge of energy as well as fully charge all your adrenal skills (yes, quite nice when you can spam final thrust twice in a row).

Generally the situation will be the same as HoH. Sure, you CAN enter the mission as soon as you get there, but the problem is that people with high rank won't group people with low rank. The result is that low rankers can only get groups with other low rankers... typically... bad groups that don't make it past the first few stages. This is what we call "Barrier to Entry". Likewise, if Anet does make the elite mission a decent challenge with maybe swarms of high dmg mobs and torment-like zone effects that might demand a high lvl lightbringer signet to keep energy up, you might find that the low rank groups consistenty wipe while only the high rank groups are getting to the chests and getting greens at the end.

This puts people without rank with three options really. First off, they can form no rank req groups, the upside of which is that they don't have to spend time farming LB points and the downside, of course, that they'll be entering the mission with a pretty serious handicap and also have a higher chance of getting "noobed" by the various idiots out there in the PUG world. Secondly, they can group with guildies and alliance folks. Perhaps some of these folks will be higher rank and will erase some of the handicap, and since you know them, it's highly likely they won't be complete retards (otherwise you've only yourself to blame for joining them). Thirdly... you can... *gasp* put in a bit of time and effort and grind lightbringer. It's hardly as time consuming and frustrating as trying to grind rank 3 in HoH.

mabye its just a clever money sink

I.E. everyone is drunk in realm of torment for hours tonight trying to find some hint.

only elite players are there yetr in general so they got money to waste

Monks have one of the bigest gains from LB ranks people seem to forget monks do well with elite e mangment.

Lets say LB5/6+ --->Mantra of inscriptions----->LB signet

Thats some insane e mangment.

At the end of the game you a told, by an NPC that another NPC wil take your home or wherever you want to go. On talking to that NPC it seems as though there should be a list, but only one option is available.

Judging by the missing town on the torment map, it would be logical that you need to complete the last mission again(like Shiro in Ch2) talk to the NPC, select the elite mission from the menu and map there.

Once you have the town you can then form a party of 12.

Shhhhhhh!!!

Don't say something intelligent, it might ruin GW!

21 energy at r7 lightbringer every ~15 sec....with a .25 cast...requiring no energy to activate...not that monks would like that.

Not tomention the 9 strikes of adren you'd gain as a war or a paragon...

I'm just surprised that I haven't seen as big of a demand for +20% damage vs Demons equipment as I thought I would at least for LB farming, if not for the elite mission anticipation. I bought a 20% Damage vs Demons Axe Grip and Bow Grip last week for like 2k each.

EDIT: I read some of the thread and i realize that the mission isnt opened yet :P

I hope it takes alot to access it, I mean I wouldnt mind a minimum req. to enter it be rank 4 or 5 lightbringer, because people that are higher rank deserve more privlages. I believe to access this mission you should have done something special to get there, perhaps Protector of Elona title or something?

I don't understand why people get frustrated by "elitests".

They've worked/grinded to obtain their high rank, why should they accept people who haven't put in as much effort as them? Sure, not everybody has 7 hours a day to devote to GW. But hey, if somebody does more power to them to be elitest. They earned it imo.

I think they should add one more track to the lightbringer title where you need to get one million points just to enter the elite mission and leave the acquisition of gaining points as is from the agents at the rez shrines (2 points). Also make where you have to make your way to the npc that will let you into the elite mission none of this starting off in a town/outpost before you enter the elite mission bs. Also make the number of mobs no less then ten and all level thirty’s, you should have to work really hard to earn the right to enter the elite missions not just once but every time you want to go. Oh and they should make the final boss/bosses in the elite mission at least level sixty or higher.