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Neon Ciaren

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ardent Adversary

A/

19 Nov 2006 at 20:00 - 1

I've been working on some of my Map Completion Titles in various locations wether it is Tyria, Cantha, or Elona. My Dervish has a percential of 98.6% in Elona and I can't seem to find any other places to explore. I've looked at a map, compared the map to my map studing it with time and still have a hard time getting the title.

As of right now I've gave up trying to get the last bit of percentage sense I've spend so many hours re-exploring areas. I figured what if they had seperate percentages in each area to help the exploration of the map? Aye I think its a great idea and its not like we are trying to nerf anything either .

I'll try to give an example if its a bit hard to understand.

For me I have 98.6% of the map completed. So if I look at the map and it says for example * Sunward Marches * and under it in small type 99.4% I would know that I haven't explored the area completely. Thus in order to do so I would have to get 100% in that area.

Picture Example: (NOTE THIS ISN'T REAL )

I already said that I like the idea plus it would help those who can't seem to get the map completed what do you all think?

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

19 Nov 2006 at 20:39 - 2

/signed

would help out A TON

Acillios

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

19 Nov 2006 at 20:51 - 3

But well, then the challenge to find the little peace you need in order to get 100% is just gone, and for me, that's the most fun part of it all

So, /notsigned

Hazard the Horrible

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Vanguard Of Skulldaria [VOS]

E/Mo

19 Nov 2006 at 20:58 - 4

I love this idea. I have a character myself, and I can't figure out what I have to explore to get the next title.
/signed

Avatara

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

19 Nov 2006 at 21:29 - 5

/notsigned

getting 100% should be a challange... I do however agree that they shouldn't force us to wall hug for tiny spots.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

20 Nov 2006 at 12:55 - 6

Instead of showing the percentage under the names...:

Make this feature appear once you have 95%, never before.
Make you ENTER the area to know the percentage.
The percentage will appear in the M map between brackets, next to the area name at the botton.
The percentage will appear at the end of the U map window title, between brackets too.

Then, even with this, youll have to get 95% and reenter every area in order to find were have you missed something.

Vangor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

20 Nov 2006 at 13:06 - 7

That seems to be a long way to force someone to find what they are unsure of having missed. Now, indication for 95% is a good idea since those areas should be large enough that if you knew you were missing something there, then you could attempt to locate it. But it should indicate it at all times when you do have around 95% found, below that is unnecessary since you can tell general covered areas and if you are going for the explorer titles, be able to find it.

But I do agree knowing that you only have .4%, .6%, .5%, 1%, .2% and so forth in areas would be useful for knowing where you should begin mapping out small areas you might have missed and may not be able to see because the way the map is set up.

Thalion Galad

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

20 Nov 2006 at 13:56 - 8

/signed

KiyaKoreena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Kirins of Holy Light

N/

20 Nov 2006 at 15:09 - 9

/signed That last .4% is ticking me off

kovey00

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

USA

Gods Walking Among The Mortals

N/Me

20 Nov 2006 at 15:17 - 10

This title is supposed to be hard to get. Finding that last 0.2% after you have looked for atleast a couple of weeks is a great feeling, it's a feeling of accomplishment. If they implement this, it just takes away that feeling of accomplishment. I have gmc titles for elona and tyria, and am at 93.5% for cantha, and I am proud of it because it is not an easy title to get and spent alot of time on it.

not signed

Alya

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European servers

RTFM

20 Nov 2006 at 15:51 - 11

/signed

Bane of Worlds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Meadow

Rt/

20 Nov 2006 at 16:11 - 12

/notsigned as it actually demean the accomplishment for people who already have worked so hard on the exploration titles despite how much this would benefit people and lower the value of the exploration title because it would be easier to accomplish.

---Follower of Grenth

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

R/

20 Nov 2006 at 16:16 - 13

/not signed

Get out there and hug those walls and remap the entire continent if necessary! You want this free title - go out and earn it!

GranDeWun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

20 Nov 2006 at 16:46 - 14

/Signed
And an even better idea - a special map option to highlight the areas I've missed

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

20 Nov 2006 at 16:54 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by GranDeWun

/Signed
And an even better idea - a special map option to highlight the areas I've missed

That would be Way to much!

We don't want the game to show exactly where to put your character to get the tittle, we want the game to tell wich areas are we missing and we must explore completely to get the last 0.2% we are missing.

Gargle Blaster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

20 Nov 2006 at 17:01 - 16

/not signed...

if you want 100% you must earn it... it is not an easy title to get and it should not be.

Tiny Killer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Oshkosh, WI USA

Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]

21 Nov 2006 at 07:59 - 17

/notsigningever

x64600

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crowning Ascension

E/R

21 Nov 2006 at 08:21 - 18

It is already an easy title to earn as it is. Why make it easier?

Moiax

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Pink Animal Clan

E/

21 Nov 2006 at 21:10 - 19

I think that implementing such an idea would take the hardest part out of getting the GMC title, the last 2%.

/not signed

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

21 Nov 2006 at 21:19 - 20

been suggested sometime before

/sign, if it does not take too much from programer and if the technology are easily implantmented.

ArcaneApostle

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

21 Nov 2006 at 22:09 - 21

I was under the impression that you got the title for willingly exploring the world, not grudgingly hunting for a tiny smudged area on the map; that could be considered a form of grinding, no?

/sign

(even if it wasn't their intent...it should be!

)

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

22 Nov 2006 at 14:57 - 22

Yup It's not:
'I want the game to show me the way'
'I've been in all the maps, and comparing my map to other 100% maps, it's the same. So I explored all of them again and got no more %. So...
What I am missing?!?!'

Whith this, you go to each area and hit U. you see then if you have 100% or not of that area, but NO were to go in that are to get it, so you'll have to fully explore it. And there are some unreachable areas that will still make that % do not show 100%, so you'll have to explore these areas again to know that.

JEC006

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

ArdentAdversary [ADA]

R/Mo

27 Nov 2006 at 14:51 - 23

I must agree that searching out that last couple percent is definately alot like grinding...

/sign

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

R/

28 Nov 2006 at 00:47 - 24

Of course it's "grinding"!

Quit crying and either grind away to get your coveted titled like so many others have, or admit you aren't up to the challenge and go do something else.

You don't have to be a GMC to play the game! That's for players who want some extra content and have something to show for putting in the extra effort!

Bo Azum

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Mongoose United

Rt/

28 Nov 2006 at 01:04 - 25

/not signed.

Although I'm at 99% exploration on all continents, and I'm hurting to find the last percentages, I still do not want the game to show me where to go. It would take off the excitement, when I finally get it, if ever. If not, then not, and then kudos to those who do.

a_ndy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Eat Our [Cape]

W/Mo

28 Nov 2006 at 06:15 - 26

I think a problem with this idea is that you don't actually need to scrape every single corner of the map to get 100% exploration.

Because of that, you'd be able to have the Grandmaster Cartographer title but there would be areas on your map that say like 99.7% still... and that would kind of detract from feeling like you have 100% map completion, wouldn't it?

Dalimoor_Kalkire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

[DoA] - The Darknights of Ascalon

R/

28 Nov 2006 at 06:49 - 27

/not signed for many of the above reasons already stated.

Lafayette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

28 Nov 2006 at 08:09 - 28

Not signed.

It's not as if map completion is difficult. All it takes is dedication. Were this implemented it would most certainly make it too easy, and titles aren't generally meant be a piece of cake, right? Besides, it lessens the achievement of those who have Grandmaster cartography titles.

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

28 Nov 2006 at 16:25 - 29

This takes all the fun out of searching for the missing bits. It would make the title easily obtained by anyone, as they wouldn't even have to work at it. Big no.

Clobimon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

28 Nov 2006 at 17:18 - 30

I'll respond in similar fashion as I did the last time this was suggested. I have GM for all three so I know how it gets a little frustrating to find the last tenths. Elona was by far the easiest for me in that it took just three night 'sessions' to find the last .3%. After completing it there's a sense of accomplishment and pride in knowing you did it. If they add an arrow or glowing effect pointing at your missing areas that would really detract from the accomplishment. Adding a % missing in a given area is essentially the same thing. Just keep working on it and as soon as you hit 100% you'll be so much happier to have gotten it without neon signs showing the way. You'll get 'er

brosse

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

28 Nov 2006 at 17:33 - 31

No,

If you really want gmc, work for it. And yes of course it's grinding, just like pretty much every title, that's why they're there, to keep you busy.
Just be thorough while exploring and this title is a piece of cake on any continent.

Clawdius_Talonious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

28 Nov 2006 at 19:39 - 32

I've spent hours upon hours looking for .1%, if that, of a map... I have been infuriated walking against a wall for what would in real life be a kilometer, just because it looked like I should be able to get more and I never could get the little spot to uncover... I would love to be able to look at something and KNOW I was missing parts there, rather than thinking I was missing a spot and wasting an hour clearing Snake Dance again for no good reason.

/signed

Sniper22

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Nov 2006 at 19:47 - 33

/signed

It's so BS that you have to wall hug for weeks just to get like 2%. Seriously, there is no reason to say no, unless you want it to be a showoff title that says "I spent 200 hours trying to get the last 2% for 100% map exploration - I rule"

Clobimon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

28 Nov 2006 at 20:18 - 34

additional civil comments

How would you feel if they added the feature immediately after you hit 100%? You just spent all that time searching everywhere and finally got it just to have it suddenly become nothing special at all because there are 'road maps' telling everyone where they have to go.

That brings me to this comment...
There are already posts all over about how KoaBD is sooo easy to get by attaining Protectors and Cartographers. I think it's threads like this one that show that Grandmaster isn't a given, it takes a lot of time for some to get it. The perseverance in searching is the challenge along with some of the areas being more difficult to fully explore. Not to sound snide, but % indicators would almost be like having an area you enter that has 100 chests all lined up in pretty rows for Treasure Hunter.

Again, as soon you get 100 you'll have much more pride in what you did if it's not handed to you. It's not about showing off, it's about a feeling of achievement for yourself.

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

28 Nov 2006 at 20:22 - 35

Though it'd be a great addition making mapping so much easier, all this does is cheapen the grandmaster cartographer title.

/notsigned

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

28 Nov 2006 at 22:39 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clobimon

additional civil comments

How would you feel if they added the feature immediately after you hit 100%? You just spent all that time searching everywhere and finally got it just to have it suddenly become nothing special at all because there are 'road maps' telling everyone where they have to go.

That brings me to this comment...
There are already posts all over about how KoaBD is sooo easy to get by attaining Protectors and Cartographers. I think it's threads like this one that show that Grandmaster isn't a given, it takes a lot of time for some to get it. The perseverance in searching is the challenge along with some of the areas being more difficult to fully explore. Not to sound snide, but % indicators would almost be like having an area you enter that has 100 chests all lined up in pretty rows for Treasure Hunter.

Again, as soon you get 100 you'll have much more pride in what you did if it's not handed to you. It's not about showing off, it's about a feeling of achievement for yourself.

I still have Elonian 100% and I won't care about that.

This feature would just tell you if the map is 100% completed or not.
This won't tell you if that map is completable or not.
Remember that there are maps that can't be completed, even if you grind all the walls.

I also explored the Undercity before they buried it, and now I can't get the % for the Skyway, baceuse the map was revealed by going to the undercity. But when they cahnged it, the % of the Undercity disapeared form my % of the title, and I can't get the % from the Skyway.

I just want to know how many maps I have under 98% to redo them, not where to go.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

28 Nov 2006 at 22:55 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clobimon

additional civil comments

How would you feel if they added the feature immediately after you hit 100%? You just spent all that time searching everywhere and finally got it just to have it suddenly become nothing special at all because there are 'road maps' telling everyone where they have to go.

I still have Elonian 100% and I won't care about that. After beating 100%, I still had more than 5% unexplored without hall hugging or grinding.

This feature would just tell you if the map is 100% completed or not.
This won't tell you if that map is completable or not.
Remember that there are maps that can't be completed, even if you grind all the walls.

I also explored the Undercity before they buried it, and now I can't get the % for the Skyway, baceuse the map was revealed by going to the undercity. But when they cahnged it, the % of the Undercity disapeared form my % of the title, and I can't get the % from the Skyway.

I just want to know how many maps I have under 98% to redo them, not where to go.

They could make a recaltulation of sort to Canthan maps, because I can't still beleive that I'm missing more than 3% will all the map explored, hugged and grinded and all.

Praetor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere over the rainbow

Devil Me [DEvM]

E/D

29 Nov 2006 at 00:22 - 38

/notsigned

100% Tyrian Grand Master Cartographer isn't so special all of a sudden...

Warrior Of The Toon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Returning after a 50 month break. Hi.

None

R/

29 Nov 2006 at 00:32 - 39

Maybe the problem of demeaining the Grand Master Cartographer title could be avoided by.. Making it so that you can visit some NPC and unlock the option once per character (make him a map maker or w/e) but if you do this and get 100% it does not count towards the Kind Of A Big Deal track, and maybe the title could be slightly changed depending on if you've 'cheated' or not, for example (a bad one) High Master Cartographer.

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

29 Nov 2006 at 02:41 - 40

/notsigned

why? Because for a complete title, it's just too easy as opposed to Wisdom or Drunkard title. It takes out the concept that you are getting the title by actually looking and finding these parts and mapping them. Not to mention that when finishing these titles up, I ended up unblurring a lot of map within towns themselves, so you'd have to have it display on towns aswell. I just don't see that happening, but that's just me.