What is the Greatest Skill Buff and Greatest Skill Nerf?

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Well some might be mad fo rme saying this but even as a ele i am thinking searing flaem si way too powerful make it a 2 second casting time i play wammo and nearly got kill, x3 searing flame dude it wipe out half my heath and my party still lost at team areana after a 35 gmae winning streak oh and

Buff=Conjure lightning now my r/e can finally spike
nerf=ether rod( it was my favourite skill dam those pvp cry bab wahhh wahhhh ele is too stron anet nerf them)

Buff = FIRE ELES!!!

Finally with Searing Flames eles should be considered powerful mages like other RPG's and rightfully take their place back on the food chain. Ele's should be devestating powerful at one point IMO, and SF is perfect for them along with the new Earth skills. For those who say it needs to get nerfed obviously don't see how weak ele's were before. You can spread out to get out of harms way of SF otherwise deal with it because it's not much better when a sin owns you from behind.

Buff: What? Anet buffs skills? /taunt
Greatest buff is definitally... Spoil Victor. A skill almost never used at one point (even in PvE) has now become a tool common in many hex pressure builds in a gvg setting.

Nerf: Verata's Sacrifice
A skill once common to all Minion Master bars across the guildwars globe has been reduced into nothing more than a forgotten, bugged skill to fill space amoung the ranks of Death Magic spells.

Hey, im a Necromancer, I choose necronamic spells!

Greatest nerf: hmm, well spirits in general as they have been hit in many ways
1. Amount - They used to be almost unlimited in number
2. Potency - Like mentioned NR used to remove all hexes AND enchants...huge nerf
3. Side Effects - changes to Soul Reaping and Soul Twisting etc
For just one skill though its gotta be Protective Bond. Instead of actually stopping 55 monks(the obvious reason to me) they ruined a good skill that demanded high prot to work. Now its shit and most newer players have never even taken a second look at it in its present state. *EtherRenewal was sweet back then too*

Biggest buff - Shouts in general. For just one skill, Spoil Victor was increased over 100%.....that's gotta count for something lol.

It's just sad that Anet completely destroys some skills to the point where they are complete GARBAGE.

Skullcrack anyone? Waste of a skill rather than an elite. Ether Renewal has no place for any bar. Prot Bond is impossible to mantain... Well, at least for 55'ers

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Defining "Greatest" as "Most well Deserved":

Nerf:
-Energizing Finale
-Zealot's Fire
-Duplicate Spirits dying (also, spirits unaplicable to Hexes, Conditions, or Enchants)

Buffs:
-Spoil Victor
-Ritualist Channeling Spells
-Dwayna's Kiss

Nerf:OoB, MoR, EDrain,blackout after third nerf,(had to say)signet of might,criplin shot,ether renewal

Buff:Spoil Victor,Lightin surge

Assassin nerf: Imaple, this skill could create awesome spikes with death blossom and blades of steel, since it was a hex it activated automatically so someone lost 200-300 health in one Dual attack

Assassin buff: Shadow of haste allows for Hell ass Shadow stepping, basically just put this on a mo/A with dash and t hey can get away from anything


Ritualist nerf: well everyone knows -_-

Warrior: no one cares about this class

Ele: tons of buffs

FYI spoil victor sucks if you can kill before it does to much damage..

Best buff for me would be Dash

biggest nerf is: dervish scythe capabilities

Man, I forgot protective bond existed until I read through this thread. It is by far the greatest nerf, the skill's utility was >completely< destroyed.

I would say the best buff was to warriors in general giving them plenty skills to pick and choose from sometimes not even knowing what skills to take.

The best nerf (which was needed) was to spirit spammer rits. No more just hitting 6 buttons like a retard. A huge nerf but was a well needed one. Also spirit spam rangers could go with this.

The Nature Renewal nerf makes other nerfs seem like nothing. Completely ENDING all enchants and hexes is HUGE. The ether renewal nerf comes close but the E/Mo smiter was not as uncounterable as a NR spammer.

Dwayna's Kiss is biggest buff, used in every healing build almost.

Didn't shadow refuge get buffed? Like more regen at a lower rank?

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Nerf: Verata's Sacrifice. The only time in GW history that a spell was reduced to uselessness. They might as well have removed it from the game. No other nerf has been this extreme.

I pretty much agree with the OP.

Buff: Spoil Victor. It just destroys people now with that high damage.

Nerf: Ether Renewal or Vereta's Sacrifice. Both aren't worth having at all anymore.

Buff : All fire Elementalist
Nerf : AoE AI, Melee Monster Nerf, Vereta's Sacrice, EoE
Why Anet nerf Vereta..... WHY....... T_T

Buff: Heal as One ressing pets

Nerf: Everything mesmer, namely making Energy Tap and Energy Drain half as effective by putting silly, "Target foe loses X energy and you gain double that" bull crap.

Buff: Mind Burn
Nerf: Mist Form

What was Ether Renewal before nerf? How it was nerfed?

I cannot vouch for which was the greatest, so just to throw some skills in the mix...
Nerf:
--Ele-->Ether Renewal/Gale
-Necro-->Verata's Sacrifice, Death Magic Minion cap, Blood of the Master (used to be 10% flat not 5%+2% per), Offering of Blood, Putrid Explosion (cast time), Feast of Corruption (used to be 10 energy)
-Monk-->Prot Bond , Contemplation of Purity, Divine Boon, Healing Hands (elite status), Draw conditions (used to be 0 recharge), Zealot's fire
-Warrior--> Hundred Blades (made elite), Eviscerate (basically 3/4 the original damage), Victory is Mine (single target), Battle Rage, Savage Slash (10 energy), Gladiator's Defense
-Mesmer --> Fragility, Inspired Hex/Enchantment
-Ranger-->Oath Shot,
-Assassin --> Shadow Refuge
-Ritualist --> Ritual Lord
-Dervish scythe, sand shards
-Paragon --> indirectly -Watch Yourself, Energizing Finale, Incoming

Buff:
-Holy Veil (made it a staple for Forge runners)
-Conjures, Mind Burn/Mind Freeze/Mind Shock, Glyph of Lesser Energy
-Arcane Thievery (Signet of Illusions)
-Determined Shot (made it work), Broadhead arrow (energy)
-Bull's Strike, Deadly Riposte, Healing Signet (-40 armor not double damage), Skullcrack
-Dash (used to be 30 recharge), Moebius Strike
-All the rit channeling

PVP changing: Chain Lightning (air spike anyone?), Nature's Renewal (no more enchant/hex removal), Spirits: Spirit explodes when 2nd one made, Energy drain/tap, Distortion, Mend ailment ( essentially 3x recharge)

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But in the end, for me the biggest nerf was Prot Bond. It made the game rid of so many monks that didn't ever bother healing and only soloed. I am thankful for that.

Similarly, the greatest buff was to Holy Veil. It made it from useless to useful.

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For me, at least...

Greatest Buff: Dolyak Signet. They effectively doubled the armor bonus to this skill a while back, making many areas that were previously unsoloable to a Strength warrior easily soloable.

Greatest Nerf: Verata's Sacrifice. This was the key skill that could keep minions alive indefinitely - now, you have to carry 2-3 skills to spam Blood of the Master to get the same effect.

Nature Renewal, this skill was so fun, and spirit spamming nerf also, lol it used to be fun to put like 40 fertiles on a altar map .

Greatest Nerf : Well, a number of things, really. Most noticeable (for me) are the numerous Zealot's Fire nerfs, Offering of blood (20%), the numerous Distortion nerfs and Gale. The good thing is, most of those skills are still absolutely fantastic
Greatest Buff : 21 energy balthazar's spirit :P

Too many, but, for a Cripshot:

Nerf: Expertise (Distortion, Dash)

Buff: Expertise (Mending Touch)

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nerf: mysticism

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