Your thoughts on the inscription system?

Pudin Tame

Pudin Tame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

TX

Elite Crew

I can't make a poll so I'll just ask what you guys think about the inscriptions system. I think it has ruined the economy and killed the thrill of hunting for and/or receiving that perfect item. I've been playing since shortly after the release of Prophecies, and I would like to know how long you guys have been playing. I think newer players will like the inscriptions because they haven't run out of things to do yet, while more veteran players will dislike it.

Trakata

Trakata

Crimson King

Join Date: Jun 2006

Resplendent Makuun

Song of the Forsaken

I actually don't have a problem with the weapon inscription system, because even 15^50 is dirt cheap right now, and also because it only affects Elonian weapons. The prices on non-inscribable weapons are hit slightly because it's easier to get perfect weapons with whatever skin you like in Elona, but overall the old rare items like Storm Bows, Sephis Axes, Dwarven Axes, Crystallines, etc. are still the same.

My gripes lie in other areas of the game.

Oh, and I've been playing for 16~17 months, since the summer that GW was released.

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Well, actually when I first knew about it I thought it was an awsome idea, even though I did at the time own a few 15^50 high end items myself. I was expecting it to be chapter wide though, and the thought of not being able to make my req.8 +30 -5(20%) magmas saddened me . I wouldn't mind the loss, because all of my items were achieved via drops, and not payed for by insane prices that other players assigned to their items. Lol, a 15^50 crystalline is like 350g at the merchant or something.

You may think it's kinda odd though that I am saying this, because I am rather wealthy, but the megapixels on my screen shouldn't affect what many other guild wars players want. From the newer players perspective, why should they be at a disadvantage from an economic standpoint from the rich people who've been playing since beta (and bought ecto when it was 1k ea and exploited the THK chest). It would kinda even things out, and if I have to take a loss for the "balance" that this game wants to achieve so badly, then so be it.

P.S. I know that these people can always get greens or collecters items, but hell its just not the same. In my noob days I used a measly victos blade, but when I got lucky and got a 15^50 fellblade drop it felt much more rewarding, and I even modded it identically. The market wouldn't really crash either, because Anet never intended anything to be over 100k and people to have insane amounts of cash (compared to the average guild wars player).

reetkever

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/E

With or without inscriptions, economy is ruined anyway cause of lack of supply.

I don't like the inscriptions. They're only addable to Nightfall weapons, so factions/prophecies weapons have disadvantages. Also, getting that 15^50 golden weapon isn't exciting anymore, and the 15^50 gold weapons are worth less now.

Soon there will be no more difference between gold or green or purple or collectors or whatever, and everything can be bought for 1-5K -_-

Great move, why did we have collector weapons and greens again? -_-

Shadowspawn X

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

Been playing 17 months love the inscription system, got an inscribable dead bow and ancient longbow for my ranger. I can swap inscritions instead of having 50 bows, its great.

eudas

eudas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tx, USA

The Infinite Monkeys [TYPE]

W/

Yet another "Anet screwed my farming!" thread.

my opinion on inscriptions? flexibility, versatility, and customizability FTW.

eudas

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

Don't have to buy more golds for different stats AWESOME!

Pudin Tame

Pudin Tame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

TX

Elite Crew

Quote:
Originally Posted by eudas
Yet another "Anet screwed my farming!" thread.

my opinion on inscriptions? flexibility, versatility, and customizability FTW.

eudas
No, I asked for people's opinion on inscriptions. I'd say it's very appropriate that your avatar is flaming.

Havre Fras

Havre Fras

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/Me

The inscriptions for weapons are great! Now I can make a perfect purple weapon!

Sidra

Sidra

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

CT

NITE

R/

He didn't flame you Pudin.

I agreed with you on your Bored topic, but I have to strongly disagree here. As someone with 6 PvE characters, and I know that's small for a lot of people, maintaining them and keeping them up with good weapons and things has always been hard. Even when i turned my monk 55, I didn't really pull in too much gold when compared to my output of it. I think inscriptions are great, I can make any weapon how I want it, and nobody cares. I remember B/P'ing in Tombs, and getting made fun of because my bow wasn't "uber-perfect" but it workes just as fine as all those idiots and their bows did. Now people can make anything they want, instead of whining "zomg this drop is like, 1% off now its worth nothing argh argh *ragequit* ", people can get anything cheap and have it made to their specifications. The money issue makes me laugh, because the whole purpose of this seems to be greedy (thread-wise).

I agree with Trakata, that inscriptions are fine, contained within chapters, and don't do anything much but help less-wealthy and newer players. Are there inscribable Crystallines? Other crazy rare skins? Not that I know of >.>

Collectors weapons are inscribable too :-) and greens almost seem inconvenient, if it's not just plain fun hunting them anyway. I think you people who just want to exploit their rare farming drops for money really need to look at the big picture, because although people are getting filled up with "crap" inscriptions (nobody really buys or sells them, unless its perfect, and even then, they're cheap), people are still happy because they have a lot more choice. Even customized weapons, if you want, can be changed (or are they unmoddable?). Don't like the 15^stance on your already-custom'ed axe? Switch it for a 15^50! No harm done. If you're lucky, you can even salvage the 15^stance off and save it for something else.

And this post probably made no sense, but I made no attempt to organize it, and it is just my thoughts as they came, so I commend anyone who fully grasps what I'm trying to say, since I don't think I got it across very well. Run-on sentences FTW.

Feathers

Feathers

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Michigan

ROAR - Rangers of Ascalon Return

R/P

I like the system myself and I've been playing for roughly over a year. I've never concerned myself with the so called game economy. If it's a Green Item or some Rare Gold and I"ve no use for it.. well I guess a guildie or the merchant just got lucky. Inscriptions add some adventuring to the game though. You might find an item you really like say the skin is really cool but the script on it blows. You can either spend the time needed to search for one or perhaps buy one. I would like to see it in all three chapters though.

Pudin Tame

Pudin Tame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

TX

Elite Crew

As much as you say it hasn't affected items from previous campaigns, it has. First of all, most of the skins have been repeated in Nightfall. Secondly, why would someone want to buy a non-inscribable item now? Some people will, but the numbers are so fewer now that the value has diminished greatly.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

I think the inscription system is great. In fact, I don't think it goes far enough since it doesnt apply to non-elonian items.

Sorry, but I disagree with all of you farmers who don't like the system. You may think that GW is no longer fun because Anet has "ruined" your farming and money making, but I think most people play for the intended gameplay and not for farming and gold making.

The point is that inscriptions are a very nice feature that makes building weapons fun and flexible. There is simply no reason to take the system out now, other than a few people complaining about "ruined" economy and the "ruined accomplishments" of finding the perfect weapon. I think more than a few people find excitement in even finding a 15^50 mod now to put on the weapon of their choice.

The inscription system fits in with GW perfectly. It's user friendly. And there's no way in hell they're going to change it back to the old archaic way.


P.S. I've noticed a lot of you are the same people from the bored thread. Just an observation.

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Whats wrong with being elitist. I don't want to compare this game with real life, but all of the successful people in the world had a drive to be better than others..to stand out..

This game has the power to suck the fun out of everything though, to protect its precious "nubs" and to encourage them to buy more. To hell with the dedicated players, we got their 100 bucks.

Hehe, before NF i sold my shiz and now I have just cash, so chapter wide inscriptions would rock imo. Perfect crys is mine

Pudin Tame

Pudin Tame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

TX

Elite Crew

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ernada
I think the inscription system is great. In fact, I don't think it goes far enough since it doesnt apply to non-elonian items.

Sorry, but I disagree with all of you farmers who don't like the system. You may think that GW is no longer fun because Anet has "ruined" your farming and money making, but I think most people play for the intended gameplay and not for farming and gold making.

The point is that inscriptions are a very nice feature that makes building weapons fun and flexible. There is simply no reason to take the system out now, other than a few people complaining about "ruined" economy and the "ruined accomplishments" of finding the perfect weapon. I think more than a few people find excitement in even finding a 15^50 mod now to put on the weapon of their choice.

The inscription system fits in with GW perfectly. It's user friendly. And there's no way in hell they're going to change it back to the old archaic way.


P.S. I've noticed a lot of you are the same people from the bored thread. Just an observation.
Judging by your join date, you are new, so of course you like the inscription system. We have beaten the PvE portion of the game already and don't enjoy PvP. I don't farm for money. I farm for the thrill of getting that rare item. There's no such thing as a rare item anymore.

geekling

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

The absolutely worst thing about inscriptions?

They don't stack, not even the non-variable ones like 'show me the money' or 'measure for measure'.

Oh and they need a trader, like runes, materials, dyes etc.
Alternativly inscriptions and other weapon mods would be a nice little test drive for a new player-to-player trading system not reliant on spamming WTS/WTB over chat.

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ernada
P.S. I've noticed a lot of you are the same people from the bored thread. Just an observation.
Hmm..can you conclude anything from this? Perhaps that somehow things like this make up the big bang that is boredome?

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pudin Tame
Judging by your join date, you are new, so of course you like the inscription system. We have beaten the PvE portion of the game already and don't enjoy PvP. I don't farm for money. I farm for the thrill of getting that rare item. There's no such thing as a rare item anymore.
Actually I'm from GWOnline and I'm a long time player since GW's release. I play far too much than I'd like to admit 1500+ hours. I also PVP though.

My opinion is that if you're all bored because you can't farm, then this really wasnt the game for you to begin with. I'm sure some of you will take offense to this, but I'm not trying to provoke anyone. It's just my observation.

I just think that the inscription system is beneficial for everyone. And it doesnt necessarily hinder any farming or gold making. You just have to find other ways of making money with the new system.

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Ya, like I said the people who's conflict is the AI are not bored, they are angry. It's somewhere in the bored thread, but I am not sure people payed much attention to it.

broodijzer

broodijzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

void

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pudin Tame
Judging by your join date, you are new, so of course you like the inscription system. We have beaten the PvE portion of the game already and don't enjoy PvP. I don't farm for money. I farm for the thrill of getting that rare item. There's no such thing as a rare item anymore.
what a dumb generalization
I'm an "old" player, and have my share of wealth, still I think inscriptions are good. Easier to get good stuff, and I don't bang my head against the wall when I find that req 8 14^50 fellblade.

And besides, a lot of the popular high-end skins are proph/factions only, and no inscriptions for those. Go farm there.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inscriptions have achieved their purpose..they made most things dirt cheap. There are of course some exceptions like the new "fade" weapon the Elemental sword. Overall this is good for the average Joe which this game is based around.

My opinon and yours don't really matter..inscriptions are here to stay like it or not.

Pudin Tame

Pudin Tame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

TX

Elite Crew

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ernada
Actually I'm from GWOnline and I'm a long time player since GW's release. I play far too much than I'd like to admit 1500+ hours. I also PVP though.

My opinion is that if you're all bored because you can't farm, then this really wasnt the game for you to begin with. I'm sure some of you will take offense to this, but I'm not trying to provoke anyone. It's just my observation.

I just think that the inscription system is beneficial for everyone. And it doesnt necessarily hinder any farming or gold making. You just have to find other ways of making money with the new system.
I don't know how you can say this isn't the game for us. It was for over a year until the AI was changed and inscriptions were added. One or the other I would have been ok with, but both of them combined was just too much. I farmed with guildies because it was fun. It gave us a no pressure thing to do so we could hang out and shoot the bull on vent, and on top of that we'd get a nice rare item every now and then. Now, farming is not only a pain in the ass, but there are no truly rare items because the base damage modifier can be changed. As I said, I'm not in it for the money. It used to be fun to find a 15^50 item, now it's not.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pudin Tame
As I said, I'm not in it for the money. It used to be fun to find a 15^50 item, now it's not.
Well I dont see why it would be any different with or without inscriptions. I hadnt realized that the fun factor was dependant whether or not an item has an inscription. That just seems very strange to me.

NeoSaber

NeoSaber

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

Guildless For Life

R/N

I don't think inscriptions go far enough. The need for an inscription slot on a weapon makes it all rather pointless to me. If they could be applied to any weapon from any continent, then they'd have solved equipment problems. As it stands, you still need to be lucky to find a usable weapon that looks decent. Even if the odds aren't quite so stacked against you as they used to be. Unless you like a Prophecies or Factions only skin... then you're just as screwed as you always were.

As for how long I've been playing, not counting the beta weekends I've been playing since Prophecies early access. I've had plenty of money in my storage for a long time (and have made another 250-300k just playing Nightfall, no farming). I could have bought Superior Absorptions at 100k easily. I didn't bother because I farmed until I got one. I bought and half upgraded my own personal Guild Hall without breaking a sweat. I could probably buy just about anything right now, except maybe Fissure armor or a Crystalline Sword. However, all that money means nothing when I can't use it to assemble a weapon I want. It just keeps building up, unless I buy another 15k armor. Even then, I make back the money in a week or so.

So as a veteran player, the only thing I don't like about inscriptions is that they aren't useful enough. If they applied to any weapon, and there was a trader for them, then they'd be just fine.

Pudin Tame

Pudin Tame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

TX

Elite Crew

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ernada
Well I dont see why it would be any different with or without inscriptions. I hadnt realized that the fun factor was dependant whether or not an item has an inscription. That just seems very strange to me.
As I stated, the fun came in finding a rare item that actually had a 15^50 modifier on it. Now any item can have that. There's no "treasure" anymore.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ernada
Well I dont see why it would be any different with or without inscriptions. I hadnt realized that the fun factor was dependant whether or not an item has an inscription. That just seems very strange to me.
The fun was finding a 15^50 because they use to be rare now any item can be a 15^50 all you got to do is go to Kamadan and say WTB 15^50 and you will get 20PMs within seconds

edit: beaten to it lol

ValaOfTheFens

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

I like the inscription system. Its just that half the inscribable weapons have crappy reqs and I keep getting the same inscriptions. "Let The Memory Live Again" is the most common one I get. An inscribable scythe with decent reqs is hard to find. *lol*

I've been playing for 3 1/2 months. I haven't completed any of the games yet but that's because I have 4 characters and its hard to give each character the attention it deserves. Anyways I don't see how being new has any bearing on my ability to gauge if a weapon/item upgrade is good or not.

MegaMouse

MegaMouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

Warriors Of Melos WOM

E/N

To tell the truth I am none too happy with the inscription system. Let me say this first on weapons it is fine but now everyone can have the same armor as everyone else due to it. I personaly like to have a choice in what my armor looks like, I don't like beign a clone of everyone else. They should have left the armor the way it was and not change it. As far as the weapons all should be able to be inscribed not just those from Elona.

Mega Mouse

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
An inscribable scythe with decent reqs is hard to find. *lol*
You should use 16 in Scythe so req shouldn't be an issue..if you use less then 16 you are a less then effective Dervish.

Matsumi

Matsumi

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

I like the inscriptions, and the new salvage system, makes things so much better imo.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

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I like inscriptions. I dislike buying/bartering for items considering I never really have much money. So being able to construct a 15^50 weapon with perfect stats makes me glad.

Myrkwid

Myrkwid

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/Me

As somebody stated: then go and farm in Prophecies or Factions for the "oh so precious" and overrated crystalline swords or gothic equipment. If you want to look exclusive, go for rare skins. If there aren't enough rare skins, that's another issue. But basic equipment and mods should never be rare and overpriced at all.

I am playing since the betas, I posted in the "I'm bored thread" because I am bored
BUT
not because of the AI, not because of the inscriptions. Infact I love the inscriptionsystem! Also I think it's a pity, that it's restricted to nightfall only. It's the only way to get usable eqipment for your PVE-characters to use in PvP that makes them at least close to as powerful as the now totally overpowered pvpchars.
Thanks to the inscription system you're not forced to farm as long anymore to get the needed eqipment, you're not forced to waste vaste amounts of playtime with tedious and boring farming activities. In my opinion the inscriptionsystem is one of the few things that were really cool about nightfall.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Narutoscryed
Trust me dude pudin would farm you into the ground.. its just that farming is now boring and pointless due to the utter crap ai and the worthlessness of items.. Had the ai not been crap we could deal.. but seeings how both are happening.. then its just to much and the game has become boring.
When did this become a competition? Who cares who can farm who "into the ground?" You missed my point entirely dude.

And why are you spamming threads with such huge pictures? What is the point of showing off your items in here?

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

When did this game become a competition? Wtf does that mean lol.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by lacasner
When did this game become a competition? Wtf does that mean lol.
What's up with you people? Getting so hot under the collar for no reason? The Naratu guy said that some guy could farm me into the ground. So I asked why he's turning this into a competition? As in the debate. Not the game. What's your problem?

ValaOfTheFens

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Admins Bane
You should use 16 in Scythe so req shouldn't be an issue..if you use less then 16 you are a less then effective Dervish.
Well I just got Nightfall last week and I'm still on n00b island. I have the pre-release scythe and regularly do 80-100 dmg(my mastery is 12 and I am saving up for sup rune) with it but it would be nice to have something I can customize. *lol* Every time I get a Gold or Purple its an axe or hammer!! Well...I did get 2 gold monk staffs recently and gave them to Dunkuro.

Question: are there any inscribable greens?

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

If a million people didn’t buy from you before what would make you think they would buy from you ever...

The nice thing about inscriptions is that if you already have the item and it has a junk inscription you can now make it how you want it. Other wise people would still play with it for that “cool look” factor or junk it. And then that is still a gamble because not all items can have an inscription added to them I have ran across the same type’s of weapons with and with out inscription slots.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Narutoscryed
Trust me dude pudin would farm you into the ground.. its just that farming is now boring and pointless due to the utter crap ai and the worthlessness of items.. Had the ai not been crap we could deal.. but seeings how both are happening.. then its just to much and the game has become boring.
I have had no trouble with farming at all even after the update.

There’s cool little free download that windows has where you can resize picture so you don’t blow out the border. You might want to look into it.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

dont like them, just another way to waste money, didnt see the need....and no, I dont farm, I am not wealthy (no fow armor---its all butt ugly, and I have no ecto).
I would much prefer plain old decent weapons, eg max damage--dont really care about the req......have YET to find a max weapon in nightfall (inscibable or otherwise)......just no use for this extra junk.

dont like the insignias on the armor either----dont see the point when you could have gotten most of them with any skin in cantha.......just another money sink.
(ok, yes I am poor)

Pudin Tame

Pudin Tame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

TX

Elite Crew

Sadly, it seems most of the people who didn't like the changes made have already quit the game. I am now done as well. I'm going to keep my characters for a couple of weeks to see if any changes are made and if not, adios GW.

mr_stealth

mr_stealth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

I Gots A Crayon[Blue]

Mo/Me

I don't like inscriptions at all. I wouldn't mind if they were only for crafter/collector items, but it makes rare items pointless. For a lot people I play with, after beating the game one of the reasons to keep playing is to get nice rare items to show off. Inscriptions make it way too easy to make your own perfect "rare" item...all you need is a weapon with a decent req. I thought the point of collecters/crafters was for newer players to get perfect stat weapons, and that rare skinned golds were for the more dedicated players that were willing to take the time to get them (going into FoW/UW/etc).

To me it seems that Anet is trying to end farming/chest running/ebay gold, no matter what they have to change. Maybe they are just trying too hard to be innovative and different from other RPGs (making GW the anti-WoW?) With perfect rare skin items being easier to get, I'm sure there will be less people farming just to sell because they are no longer rare and worth anything. What they aren't considering is players like myself and my guildies that farm mainly for items for ourselves are less inclined to do so because the stuff just isn't as "special" any more. Taking that away gives us less reason to keep playing after getting our characters through a campaign.