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KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

01 Dec 2006 at 21:26 - 401

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sai of Winter

I kinda wish they would allow henchmen into DoA, I wanted to explore this place on my own before grouping with people (mainly friends/guildies only) for the quests and stuff. I guess they wanted to make DoA a TRUE elite area, but hey at least we can still use heroes

Read the last two pages, Henchmen, heros Won't do you no good, PEOPLE will do you no good, (ha)

TiNkLeR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Portugal

01 Dec 2006 at 21:27 - 402

OMG this is impossible.

Im no songonku or vegeta and theyre fellows from dragonball.

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

01 Dec 2006 at 21:28 - 403

Wonder how many slots the coffer has; or what it is exactly...

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

01 Dec 2006 at 21:31 - 404

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoalaMeatPie

Read the last two pages, Henchmen, heros Won't do you no good, PEOPLE will do you no good.

"3/8 LF immortals for mission. Need Evil Firestorm Gwen, Kormir, Glint, Oink, and Shiro. Rank 15+ Lightbringer only plz"

I'm guessing that Coffers are like chests. From the main site:

"Collect special gemstones for many purposes, including unlocking mysterious coffers that contain valuable and oftentimes rare items."

Phaedra Firesoul

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Under a rock.

Silencing To Avert Brutality

R/

01 Dec 2006 at 21:32 - 405

thanks everyone, you've satisfied at least some of this saps curiousity.

klorbonde

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

MEAN

W/

01 Dec 2006 at 21:32 - 406

Haha.. We spent like 30min to find and set up a party with r4+ lightbringers for the mission, and then went in.. We walked a litle bit, and suddenly a lot of lvl 28 margonites spawned.. and before i counted to 3 all our 3 monks where did.. And 20 sek after the whole party was dead.. No comment

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

01 Dec 2006 at 21:32 - 407

I told you all. These missions were balanced around 8 people with Lightbringer's Gaze.

This is ridicolous.

IMO, they forgot to enable the 12 man limit...

TomD22

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

01 Dec 2006 at 21:33 - 408

Hmmmm. My guild has had a play around in here, and we reckon the groups would be doable with a trapper group, and possibly also with a barrage group with at least one CG ranger and a crippling anthem paragon (for the touchers).

But, we can't see how it's ever going to be possible with a normal balanced team . Which is a bit unfortunate. Sure gimmicky builds like trappers might work, but it's boring to do and also hard to assemble seeing as you have to complete the game to get a char there.

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

01 Dec 2006 at 21:33 - 409

After thinking about it, I doubt that the coffers give extra Storage, Seeing as not everybody has C3.

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

01 Dec 2006 at 21:34 - 410

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoalaMeatPie

Read the last two pages, Henchmen, heros Won't do you no good, PEOPLE will do you no good.

Yeah, the difficulty of DoA is impossible but I like the challenge

I must be crazy...

Gen Saver

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Belgium

Banished Dragons (BaD)

E/

01 Dec 2006 at 21:36 - 411

took me 1 hour 30 minutes to get a balanced party together
we try couple of time but no chance at all
instead of exciting me this made me close guildwars

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

01 Dec 2006 at 21:36 - 412

Remeber the people flaming about the last two NF missions?

Those where doable.
Now everybody is complainning, in a good way, its not just crying, its acknowledging that DoA is for masochists.

We'll get it, eventually.

Phaedra Firesoul

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Under a rock.

Silencing To Avert Brutality

R/

01 Dec 2006 at 21:37 - 413

i guess that could be good news for me since my main char is a ranger

Lalita

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Mountains

[LaZy]

01 Dec 2006 at 21:39 - 414

I found it really frustraiting. I went out with an alliance group, we play together regularly and use TS and all that fun stuff. We are not uber but I can fairly say that we hold our own.

However....this place is just crazy. Like we can't get past the first part of anything crazy. All of us are r 4+LB and we know our builds. We tried multiple balanced groups, unbalanced groups, heck we tried an all monk team just for poops and giggles. Eaten up with a side of blood pudding everytime. I REALLY hope a balance is done on this, or we are allowed a 12 person team like the Factions elite. Yes I realize its ment to be hard, but gosh I hope someone figuers out the build/s that work here, because constantly dying is just not fun. And since GW does not pay me to play, I play to have fun

Kaane

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Seattle, WA

I Righteous Indignation I [RI]

W/A

01 Dec 2006 at 21:39 - 415

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solar_Takfar

"Stand your ground!" sounds like a good start. Isn't there at least one skill that heals while moving, too?

"Fall Back"

.neuronster.

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

My house.

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

E/Mo

01 Dec 2006 at 21:42 - 416

Stand Your Ground only works when you're standing still, how would it effect Enduring Torment?

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

01 Dec 2006 at 21:42 - 417

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaane

"Fall Back"

Sounds like an option.

I still Say Mesmers With mantras is a good way to go.

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

01 Dec 2006 at 21:42 - 418

New places are so much fun

.

Ravenheart Gloom is easiest place at least for starts. Just have to be careful with the first big group.

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

01 Dec 2006 at 21:43 - 419

Funny how people used to complain that there was no challenging/high-level content in Nightfall, and now that we get it they complain some more

I give it at least a week or two before people figure out ways to make this doable, and even then it should be extremely hard for Joe Schmo PUGs. This very well could be the hardest GW area yet.

Sidra

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

CT

NITE

R/

01 Dec 2006 at 21:46 - 420

Yeah... no. Seriously. MAYBE 12 r4+ LB's can take this place. I'm only a r2, so I guess I should farm some points if dmg really matters here. God dammit.

Bel

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Guildless

W/

01 Dec 2006 at 21:48 - 421

How amusing place...

90% of the groups get obliterated against the first pile of Margonites.

milias

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

Me/E

01 Dec 2006 at 21:49 - 422

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gen Saver

took me 1 hour 30 minutes to get a balanced party together
we try couple of time but no chance at all
instead of exciting me this made me close guildwars

Well, that's part of the fun! But I'm sure someone will come up with a cookie-cutter build like B/P for Tombs sooner or later.

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

01 Dec 2006 at 21:50 - 423

Quote:

Originally Posted by korcan

ive been kinda lazy and a bit busy recently but i think ive found a reason to get a few of my toons through nf now

thxs to all the people who have taken the time to post screenies and what not, you guys are the r0x0rz!

how long before we see a "WtFoXoRz!!! DoA iS wAy t00 hArD, An37 y00 bUnCh 0 nUb0rz mAk3 i7 eAZ|3r, WTF!" comment?

Search "Butter Muffin"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beowulf1982

90%? try 99.9%

Concidering There arn't even 1000 groups down there yet.

Maybe Some Crazy Korean team already managed to finish it, I wouldn't be surprised.

Beowulf1982

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

The Combine

Rt/Me

01 Dec 2006 at 21:50 - 424

90%? try 99.9%

Demoon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

01 Dec 2006 at 21:51 - 425

Most balanced skill ever

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

01 Dec 2006 at 21:52 - 426

Quote:

Originally Posted by korcan

how long before we see a "WtFoXoRz!!! DoA iS wAy t00 hArD, An37 y00 bUnCh 0 nUb0rz mAk3 i7 eAZ|3r, WTF!" comment?

Probably an hour at the most.

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

01 Dec 2006 at 21:56 - 427

8 man trapping team seems viable I suppose though would take a long time. This place is definetly insane (difficulty wise). Though chest running gives you some nice golds (shadow scythes, shadow axes, etc).

Kaane

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Seattle, WA

I Righteous Indignation I [RI]

W/A

01 Dec 2006 at 21:58 - 428

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demoon

Most balanced skill ever

Ouch.

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

01 Dec 2006 at 21:58 - 429

Quote:

Originally Posted by .neuronster.

Stand Your Ground only works when you're standing still, how would it effect Enduring Torment?

someone was complaining casters can't survive, since they die if they move. well, SYG piled with watch yourself can give them a chance to survive for a couple more seconds if they DONT try to move while in battle.

And yes, "Fall back!" is exactly the skill I was thinking about. two or three paras with this skill can keep squishies safe from the health draining effect. Restful breeze could work, altho a lot more limited. And of course, mesmer mantras.

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

01 Dec 2006 at 21:59 - 430

This area is not Elite its Insane!

Good Grief I just went in with 7 guildies (party of 8) and got wiped in each of the new explorable area's within a few minutes. All of us were veteran players who know builds extremely well. Furthermore we each have at least Lightbringer 4 or more. Even when we fully concentrated on one enemy we were dead before we knew what hit us.

What was ANET thinking?

Bon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

BC

Dorks R Us

W/

01 Dec 2006 at 22:02 - 431

Does anyone know yet whether any of your toons can get in or just the ones that have reached Gates of torment?

Dreikki

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Kemi, Finland.

Pirates of the Searing [YoHo]

Mo/

01 Dec 2006 at 22:03 - 432

Seriously, this makes no sense.

We had an awesome party, 2 monks and everything but we only got one margonite killed before they humiliated us.

Sidra

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

CT

NITE

R/

01 Dec 2006 at 22:04 - 433

I think this might be an 8-months-late april fools prank.

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

01 Dec 2006 at 22:05 - 434

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bon

Does anyone know yet whether any of your toons can get in or just the ones that have reached Gates of torment?

Your character has to have beaten Abaddon's Gate.

Drazilus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Finland

N/

01 Dec 2006 at 22:06 - 435

Hell yes. These new areas are great! Finally some insanely hard places to explore. Those demons and margonites really are something there. I can allready feel in my bones, how many times my assassin will get killed in there, before i can figure best possible strategy there. Good to see that Nightfall has some challenging aspects now. I got so bored with those pathetic "demons" at Realm of Torment.

Time to form with my friend a team with 6 heros.

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

01 Dec 2006 at 22:06 - 436

Just managed to get to see that ebony citadel in middle. HUGE

.

Haven't seen a single chest yet though.

Gigashadow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Bellevue, WA

W/

01 Dec 2006 at 22:07 - 437

This all sounds great, can't wait to get home and try it.

Maybe there is finally some pve content in GW that isn't a complete joke.

LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

01 Dec 2006 at 22:07 - 438

PvErs will finally have to bring Protective Spirit. I tried a PuG earlier and asked like 4-5 times if the monks brought Protective Spirit. What I got was a monk with Vigorous Spirit and another monk who thought Life Sheath = Protective Spirit. And since you can't bring henchmen into this zone you're gonna have to rely on guildies. I'll prolly have a good build figured out sooner or later to 4-man the "easy" parts with henchmen... XD

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

01 Dec 2006 at 22:07 - 439

Quote:

Originally Posted by korcan

how long before we see a "WtFoXoRz!!! DoA iS wAy t00 hArD, An37 y00 bUnCh 0 nUb0rz mAk3 i7 eAZ|3r, WTF!" comment?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

Probably an hour at the most.

I was in the game from just before Noon until a few minutes ago. I love visiting during events, and trust me, this is a biggie. Anyway, for the record, I saw my first "It's impossible. Anet you suck!" at precisely 12:05 p.m. PST. That's five minutes after the area opened.

I won't say it's easy.
I won't say it's not very, very, very challenging. (I added bold for emphasis, see that?

)
However, I will that that it is do-able.
It'll just take us some time and effort to figure out how!

Kaane

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Seattle, WA

I Righteous Indignation I [RI]

W/A

01 Dec 2006 at 22:08 - 440

LOL I love hearing all this, I can't wait to get home and try it.

I have no doubt that the community will figure it out and adapt--I've seen the same thing in other games and people always figure it out and get around it. Level 10 complexes in Eve, Blackwing Lair in WoW, etc. We'll figure it out.