Domain Of Anguish
Rurik Jangeer
Hale:
You can see any skill under any profession's attributes by going to a Priest of Balthazaar. These will not only be organized but will be updated with patches and will not become obsolete.
On the PvE aspect of not having the guide: That can only be solved by a bit of patience. Let some people go through it, and spread the word down to those behind. It will all become clear eventually.
Back on topic.
I've been scrambling through the end of NF hurrying desperately to get to the DoA since its first mention. I just reached the RoT and my friend with whom I'm doing the game with had to log off I was so disappointed that I would miss the first drops and screenies and such, but now I'm not so sad, by the time I get there some of the tough parts might be worked out! wewt.
You can see any skill under any profession's attributes by going to a Priest of Balthazaar. These will not only be organized but will be updated with patches and will not become obsolete.
On the PvE aspect of not having the guide: That can only be solved by a bit of patience. Let some people go through it, and spread the word down to those behind. It will all become clear eventually.
Back on topic.
I've been scrambling through the end of NF hurrying desperately to get to the DoA since its first mention. I just reached the RoT and my friend with whom I'm doing the game with had to log off I was so disappointed that I would miss the first drops and screenies and such, but now I'm not so sad, by the time I get there some of the tough parts might be worked out! wewt.
The Ernada
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Originally Posted by Hale
Something else bugs me.. i went to buy the stragedy guide so i could learn the new spells for paragon and dervish kept being told yeah it's on it's way then told a couple weeks later sorry they cancelled it.. how are we as players supposed to no what all the spells are if we can't read up on it till someone finished the game.. that just plain sucks.. Anet made HUGE mistakes on this game.. if they lowered the difficulty level of enemies and only made a handful of em lvl 24's and above maybe the game would be a bit easier hence more enjoyable.
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But then again I shouldnt expect much from someone who can't tell the difference between "no" and "know"
lg5000
would that mean that there are little to no enchant strippers in that area?
Swinging Fists
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Originally Posted by Hale
The Makers of Guild Wars must be on a power trip to make Nightfall as hard as it is. our levels are max'd at lvl 20 but yeah going through the game almost all enemies half way through the game are lvl 24 and higher. once u enter the vortex u get almost all sitting at lvl 28 now someone tell me the fairness in that.
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Originally Posted by Hale
then all of a sudden WOW they do us a favor and add an elite area wohooo get us all excited about it and boom go in there 1 hit from any enemy and boom your dead.. wow THAT was fun! let's all try it again BOOM die again wow we are having fun now. You wanna sit there and laugh at those trying to beat it, fine go for it... who'll be laughing the hardest when we don't buy the next guild wars cause u think it's fun to make it impossible to do. the reason and the only reason prophecies did so good was cause it allowed US the players to do what we wanted what quests we wanted etc... u make nightfall with 10000 quests so people get bored of playing it.. i have 6 characters to run through nightfall do u REALLY think im going to do it? NO cause the quests are TEDIOUS and boring. The hero idea yes it was a good idea. maybe u should make like u did a stash for materials make one for dye's and key's but that would make to much sense to use your brain instead u want to make a game so HARD nobody is enjoying it anymore. So use any info you might and sit there laughing to the bank cause u made a bunch of money off of this one but u keep screwing around with the guild wars world and environment and changing things so that it's either to hard or to many quests to finish the game people won't buy the next one therefore putting u out of business..
enjoy your success now cause it won't last long.. don't believe me?? do a survey and ask the people who bought your game! |
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I was in the game from just before Noon until a few minutes ago. I love visiting during events, and trust me, this is a biggie. Anyway, for the record, I saw my first "It's impossible. Anet you suck!" at precisely 12:05 p.m. PST. That's five minutes after the area opened.
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I won't say it's easy.
I won't say it's not very, very, very challenging. (I added bold for emphasis, see that? ) However, I will that that it is do-able. It'll just take us some time and effort to figure out how! |
WhiteZombie
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Originally Posted by lg5000
would that mean that there are little to no enchant strippers in that area?
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Kaane
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Originally Posted by Swinging Fists
Ok, Gaile, you can tell us the truth. :P The devs haven't completed everything, so they give us this update, knowing we'll never get to the parts they haven't done, right ? LOL. Just kidding, but obviously, the thought did cross my mind. :P
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Kakumei
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Originally Posted by WhiteZombie
not for the margonites, afaik. the menzies mesmers do, however.
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Former Ruling
Some obvious questions have been:
1) What do Coffer of Whisper's do.
2) How do you get the Embraces of Truth for the weapons (or w/e they are called)
I guess these will get answered the second a group actually makes it past the first 5 or so mobgroups in an area :\ (I was able to kill 2 groups with just Heros , only because I had 2 nukers and they were obstructed from hitting us down in a river thingie)
Each of the 4 areas has an "overlord" boss at the end too it seems, It'll be fun to read about beating them.
Eitherway, I'll be saving my team in the area until after rewards are confirmed, from the outpost all I can see is some scrub Hero Armor guy, and some ugly (IMO) Weapons.
1) What do Coffer of Whisper's do.
2) How do you get the Embraces of Truth for the weapons (or w/e they are called)
I guess these will get answered the second a group actually makes it past the first 5 or so mobgroups in an area :\ (I was able to kill 2 groups with just Heros , only because I had 2 nukers and they were obstructed from hitting us down in a river thingie)
Each of the 4 areas has an "overlord" boss at the end too it seems, It'll be fun to read about beating them.
Eitherway, I'll be saving my team in the area until after rewards are confirmed, from the outpost all I can see is some scrub Hero Armor guy, and some ugly (IMO) Weapons.
Eclair
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Originally Posted by Dragonious
Has anyone tried Shadow Form and Sliver Armor? I don't have any char to try it.
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Illusion Thunder
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Originally Posted by Hale then all of a sudden WOW they do us a favor and add an elite area wohooo get us all excited about it and boom go in there 1 hit from any enemy and boom your dead.. wow THAT was fun! let's all try it again BOOM die again wow we are having fun now. You wanna sit there and laugh at those trying to beat it, fine go for it... who'll be laughing the hardest when we don't buy the next guild wars cause u think it's fun to make it impossible to do. the reason and the only reason prophecies did so good was cause it allowed US the players to do what we wanted what quests we wanted etc... u make nightfall with 10000 quests so people get bored of playing it.. i have 6 characters to run through nightfall do u REALLY think im going to do it? NO cause the quests are TEDIOUS and boring. The hero idea yes it was a good idea. maybe u should make like u did a stash for materials make one for dye's and key's but that would make to much sense to use your brain instead u want to make a game so HARD nobody is enjoying it anymore. So use any info you might and sit there laughing to the bank cause u made a bunch of money off of this one but u keep screwing around with the guild wars world and environment and changing things so that it's either to hard or to many quests to finish the game people won't buy the next one therefore putting u out of business.. enjoy your success now cause it won't last long.. don't believe me?? do a survey and ask the people who bought your game! |
sindex
Well it looks like I found that Abyssal’s I was looking for in the realm of toument. Hounestly I feel like im the only one laughing at this, to me it’s hystrical. Not one of the so called “farming builds” work here, even if they had a lvl8 lightbringer title. I think A-net really did a service to all of by providing a kick butt dungen style area. Iv’e died so many times it’s pathetic but I still laugh. All ive been doing latly here is primary chest runs, it seems the only prductive thing you can do (and the rewards have been exelent). Thank you A-team.
dargon
To everyone who is crying how the realm is too hard and it's so unfair, some of you may or may not remember the UW and FoW back before people actually figured them out and came up with certain builds that worked very well in them. I was in several groups that wiped to the very first group of Ataxes. This was about 16 months ago, now that we've tamed the UW and FoW, ANet has given us an even tougher challenge, quit whining and enjoy it, or continue whining and go back to your safe UW and FoW.
[DE]
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Originally Posted by darktemplar32489
i didnt think screens were necesary since i thought alot of people would have and i sold those 4 gemstones for 250ectos (some crazy person i take it). I beat him w/ my ele build and some heroes.
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[riVen]
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Originally Posted by The Phantom
You... beat him?!?! Screens please? And where you able to get a torment weapon at all or what? TELL US!
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Zexion
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Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher
Folks, not to bring A-Net down (fine company and great games) but there is little or no AI programmed into this game. You call those enemies have AI in DoA. That is a lie. All they did is load them up to higher level (with higher HP and maybe attack power) and put oh say, 10 to 20 of them in one huge mob after another. Oh yeah, make sure each mob group is close to each others so you can't never really aggro one group.
I would love to go to DoA but what is the ultimate reward you get out of here? Another green weapons or rare items? No thanks, i got quests and missions to finish with my Dervish and Ranger. |
_Zexion
Messy
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Originally Posted by Hale
The Makers of Guild Wars must be on a power trip to make Nightfall as hard as it is. our levels are max'd at lvl 20 but yeah going through the game almost all enemies half way through the game are lvl 24 and higher. once u enter the vortex u get almost all sitting at lvl 28 now someone tell me the fairness in that.
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Originally Posted by Hale
then all of a sudden WOW they do us a favor and add an elite area wohooo get us all excited about it and boom go in there 1 hit from any enemy and boom your dead.. wow THAT was fun! let's all try it again BOOM die again wow we are having fun now.
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Originally Posted by Hale
You wanna sit there and laugh at those trying to beat it, fine go for it... who'll be laughing the hardest when we don't buy the next guild wars cause u think it's fun to make it impossible to do. the reason and the only reason prophecies did so good was cause it allowed US the players to do what we wanted what quests we wanted etc... u make nightfall with 10000 quests so people get bored of playing it.. i have 6 characters to run through nightfall do u REALLY think im going to do it? NO cause the quests are TEDIOUS and boring.
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Originally Posted by Hale
The hero idea yes it was a good idea. maybe u should make like u did a stash for materials make one for dye's and key's but that would make to much sense to use your brain instead
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Originally Posted by Hale
u want to make a game so HARD nobody is enjoying it anymore.
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Originally Posted by Hale
So use any info you might and sit there laughing to the bank cause u made a bunch of money off of this one but u keep screwing around with the guild wars world and environment and changing things so that it's either to hard or to many quests to finish the game people won't buy the next one therefore putting u out of business..
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Originally Posted by Hale
enjoy your success now cause it won't last long.. don't believe me?? do a survey and ask the people who bought your game!
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Memememememememememe
I can't WAIT!!!!
Seriously, you might want to take a long look at your behavior. You buy a game, you don't like it, DON'T play it, simple. Play something that's easier and that you actually have fun with, I believe that's the purpose of games.
I have bought games that I did not enjoy. So? I put them away, and find one that I do enjoy. I don't whine about how hard it is, about how I WANT it to be, and sit there all frustrated blaming the developers because I KNOW they are watching me and laughing at me and made it hard just to aggravate me.
I see dead margonites, I hear little voices... GWEN??? IS that YOU???
Unlike any games out there, ANET DOES listen to our requests, the reasonable ones. Is it a perfect game? no, but it's not a perfect world either.
Do I love and agree with all the updates? no, but I move on, adapt and continue to have fun. If the day ever comes that I stop having fun, it will be then that I will stop playing, but I don't see that happening anytime soon!!!
Waldir
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Originally Posted by The Phantom
No offense but that is bullcrap and you know it. There is no way that a group of 5 (with four of them being heroes none-the-less) could beat it. Sorry but just no.
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Cyan The Archer
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Originally Posted by darktemplar32489
i didnt think screens were necesary since i thought alot of people would have and i sold those 4 gemstones for 250ectos (some crazy person i take it). I beat him w/ my ele build and some heroes.
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Well99
I tried it in a pug and we went down quick..)I did one of the other portals with just heroes for a look see and I lasted longer.It was a easier area from the other.It looked as if you could pull the groups to a managable size.
Having a ranger I switched to trapper.Seems to be a demand for them.
I am just curious why Anet set this up this way.Are they looking to push certain builds only?Certain classes?
To get the RIT you need to do certain mission.So are they doing it so only so many people can have the hero?
What really interest me is getting the Rit but if the hero is only good for after you beat the game then it is a waste.I like to use my heroes through out the game.That is the fun part for me.
Also just a note:Someone mentioned something about people being anti social because they did hero/hench thru the game.It could be because they were tired of dealing with prima donnas and leets you run into in pugs.They always seem to be the first to bail out or go afk in pugs I been in.Anyhow that is mach nix ...you buy games for fun...so have fun...oh well
Having a ranger I switched to trapper.Seems to be a demand for them.
I am just curious why Anet set this up this way.Are they looking to push certain builds only?Certain classes?
To get the RIT you need to do certain mission.So are they doing it so only so many people can have the hero?
What really interest me is getting the Rit but if the hero is only good for after you beat the game then it is a waste.I like to use my heroes through out the game.That is the fun part for me.
Also just a note:Someone mentioned something about people being anti social because they did hero/hench thru the game.It could be because they were tired of dealing with prima donnas and leets you run into in pugs.They always seem to be the first to bail out or go afk in pugs I been in.Anyhow that is mach nix ...you buy games for fun...so have fun...oh well
korcan
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Originally Posted by Waldir
agreed.
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its sad that people feel a need to lie about their gaming accomplishments in a forum...
Neo Nugget
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Originally Posted by Waldir
agreed.
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i dont believe you......
Mulkor
I think it's doable. The problem is, finding a decent team build to do it.
The counter part is that this build probably (like many others) wont work for every profession, which means that Anguish will see a lot of the same ppl with the same professions :S
The counter part is that this build probably (like many others) wont work for every profession, which means that Anguish will see a lot of the same ppl with the same professions :S
Durik Lakmor
OMG I can't beat an area that was just opened today ANet sux0r
grow up people and learn to play, people wanted a challenging area, more than what we have had before and when it is produced people start crying because they gave it a couple of hours, mostly in PuGs, trying and dying.
Learn from your mystics, learn your enemies and move on. This is NOT impossible, the group I was in was able to take out about 3 of the groups after a few changes to builds and such, yes it was hard but I can guarntee that after awhile group builds for this area will start to appear and strategies will be formed.
It says "Elite Mission" right when you walk in the door, don't expect it to be a day at The North Gate, this is what people have asked for, maybe not all but some and this is what those people got. If you don't like it, do something you do like, you can still buy the items off of people who do learn to do it.
grow up people and learn to play, people wanted a challenging area, more than what we have had before and when it is produced people start crying because they gave it a couple of hours, mostly in PuGs, trying and dying.
Learn from your mystics, learn your enemies and move on. This is NOT impossible, the group I was in was able to take out about 3 of the groups after a few changes to builds and such, yes it was hard but I can guarntee that after awhile group builds for this area will start to appear and strategies will be formed.
It says "Elite Mission" right when you walk in the door, don't expect it to be a day at The North Gate, this is what people have asked for, maybe not all but some and this is what those people got. If you don't like it, do something you do like, you can still buy the items off of people who do learn to do it.
Phaern Majes
All I can say is aptly named, I'm in anguish from my last hour of trying to kill 1 mob...though I did manage to get that done. However, I think the 2nd mob was out for blood after that, cause I didn't last long.
Hale
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Originally Posted by Well99
I tried it in a pug and we went down quick..)I did one of the other portals with just heroes for a look see and I lasted longer.It was a easier area from the other.It looked as if you could pull the groups to a managable size.
Having a ranger I switched to trapper.Seems to be a demand for them. I am just curious why Anet set this up this way.Are they looking to push certain builds only?Certain classes? To get the RIT you need to do certain mission.So are they doing it so only so many people can have the hero? What really interest me is getting the Rit but if the hero is only good for after you beat the game then it is a waste.I like to use my heroes through out the game.That is the fun part for me. Also just a note:Someone mentioned something about people being anti social because they did hero/hench thru the game.It could be because they were tired of dealing with prima donnas and leets you run into in pugs.They always seem to be the first to bail out or go afk in pugs I been in.Anyhow that is mach nix ...you buy games for fun...so have fun...oh well |
I don't know why Anet does things specifically for certain classes or builds.. u'd figure a nice well rounded group (meaning every class) ina group would do better than having say 5 bp's 1 mm 2 monks and 1 rit. or something like that.. what about the other classes.. if they suck that bad and can't do the mission why did Anet make the classes to begin with.
[DE]
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Originally Posted by sindex
Well it looks like I found that Abyssal’s I was looking for in the realm of toument. Hounestly I feel like im the only one laughing at this, to me it’s hystrical. Not one of the so called “farming builds” work here, even if they had a lvl8 lightbringer title. I think A-net really did a service to all of by providing a kick butt dungen style area. Iv’e died so many times it’s pathetic but I still laugh. All ive been doing latly here is primary chest runs, it seems the only prductive thing you can do (and the rewards have been exelent). Thank you A-team.
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Spike
Its got nothing to do with beating the area. It has to do with not being able to kill the 1st group of mobs. Or the fact most if not all the mobs can kill you and your whole party in less than 5 seconds. Or the groups are so large and so close together you have no chance of pulling just one group. And so and so forth. I'm all for a challange. But this IS just STUPID. Now maybe stupidly hard missions are fun for a few people but the vast majorty don't like them. I'm all for challange but the whole party geting wiped in seconds is NOT fun or a challange its just STUPID.
Neo Nugget
oh i tried to do the razah quest....i need the gemstones...4 .....1 of each...from the big 30k xp quest...which is hard:P. Mabye i wont get razah:P.
Warrior Of The Toon
From what I've heard it sounds like they got the name confused, DoA should mean Death on Arrival, not Domain of Anguish..
Effendi Westland
2 mobs...... going to try some weird stuff tomorrow, dmg is too insane to catch in any normal way.... tho party wide bonding made us last longer...
Waldir
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Originally Posted by Warrior Of The Toon
From what I've heard it sounds like they got the name confused, DoA should mean Death on Arrival, not Domain of Anguish..
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Arduin
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Originally Posted by Warrior Of The Toon
From what I've heard it sounds like they got the name confused, DoA should mean Death on Arrival, not Domain of Anguish..
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Vilaptca
Haven't stopped in yet, but remember when Tombs first opened. It took a while for people to figure out how to get through it. Stop expecting to blaze through this place within the first few hours. Nobody is that good. And it'll take a while before we all know what skills are necessary.
From how challenging it sounds, I might just wait for someone to post a decent build and then go with guildies. Don't really feel like wasting my time dying right now :/
From how challenging it sounds, I might just wait for someone to post a decent build and then go with guildies. Don't really feel like wasting my time dying right now :/
trobinson97
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Originally Posted by Multer
Has anyone tried using a Barrage team here? Does it Work?
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Sable Phoenix
Razah should have no prerequisites. No other hero in the game requires prerequisites. It's absolutely asinine.
Badboy Thrasher
Went in with a guild group, experienced people, nice round balanced build and went down in 15 secs. Does it really have to be this way?
Waldir
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Originally Posted by Vilaptca
Haven't stopped in yet, but remember when Tombs first opened. It took a while for people to figure out how to get through it. Stop expecting to blaze through this place within the first few hours. Nobody is that good. And it'll take a while before we all know what skills are necessary.
From how challenging it sounds, I might just wait for someone to post a decent build and then go with guildies. Don't really feel like wasting my time dying right now :/ |
brokenmonkey
...just.. no fun..
ChaoticCoyote
Thank you, ANet, for a wonderful, nasty, devilish challenge.
I'm just glad my first character thru the game was a Ranger. Now I have incentive to push my necro through as well...
I'm just glad my first character thru the game was a Ranger. Now I have incentive to push my necro through as well...
sacrypheyes
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Originally Posted by darktemplar32489
i didnt think screens were necesary since i thought alot of people would have and i sold those 4 gemstones for 250ectos (some crazy person i take it). I beat him w/ my ele build and some heroes.
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even players with above average "skills" can easily tell those places are at least as tough as previous elite missions Anet made before (i'd honestly say it's tougher actually).
even "hardcore" gamers spent a few weeks training together to get through some elite missions such as the deep with less people than required, so hell yeah, i firmly believe no one should have already got it done... with heroes only, which you're telling you did, barely a few hours after this content has been released.
L2lie kthxbye.