Tyrian Time - Making Guild Wars A Time Zone

brave bern

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

London

Fun With Blood (SuK)

R/

Dont know if someone has ever come up with this idea before - but how about making Guild Wars a time zone - Tyrian Time - In our guild which spans 3 continents - it would simplfy the planning of events - and in a wider context would ease the understanding of what time events or launches would actually happen.

Recently, an event was published only in pacific time - and had thousands of people referencing different sources to establish what time that actually was in relation to there own zone!

A clock feature could even be included on the menu somewhere

If you like this idea - support it and maybe someone far smarter than I can do a poll - but I like it!!!"

Bankai

Bankai

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

Mo/E

I'd like it. Use an /info command maybe. Or /time.

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

If neopets can do it.. so can guildwars

would REALLY REALLY help with events. Even if its not in game, a simple time counter could be put on the site in a special Guildwars Meantime. (Just Rename PST to the guildwars time so people know the timing).

Shouldnt this be in sanitarium btw?

Carth`

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by brave bern
Dont know if someone has ever come up with this idea before
There are about 15 threads on it in Sardelac Sanitarium.

I didn't like this idea, but I think I was the only person who didn't.

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

You can just use the windows clock to work out timezones, scroll down the list of timezones and find PST in relation to your clock.

But imo GMT is the standard time, anet should really use that instead, would cause less confusion as everyone knows where they stand in relation to GMT.

Lavindathar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Manchester, England

The Monstrous Fangs (fang)

N/Mo

Best idea I've seen on here, so signed! Personally, I'd like it to be set to GMT. Not because I'm from the UK, but GMT is the time which the whole world is based off, is it not? As in PST = GMT-8 etc? (I know you can say well GMT=PST+8, but that's just not how it's written and seen throughout the world?)

/signed!

Gonzo

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

W/

/signed, taken that you get a /time command too

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

/signed and I think GMT would be best to use but it doesnt really matter.

Emik

Emik

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Belgium

[FaRM] Farm For The Win

N/

EVE online has an ingame timer but i guess it's more to do with the fact that you have to finish your missions before acertain time in order to get a bonus reward.
Never the less it would be handy to actually get a clock.
Even if it is on PST it's handy since most events are coordinated towards PST.

/signed

Tyggen

Tyggen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

/signed just to shut up half the population during the events. I'd prefer it if they went back to announcing events in GMT or CET as well though.

Carth`

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lavindathar
Best idea I've seen on here, so signed! Personally, I'd like it to be set to GMT. Not because I'm from the UK, but GMT is the time which the whole world is based off, is it not? As in PST = GMT-8 etc? (I know you can say well GMT=PST+8, but that's just not how it's written and seen throughout the world?)
But what would be the point? People will just have to change their time from PST to GWT (Guild Wars Time) instead of PST to GMT. People just want a calculator to do a very simple calculation for them, that is all a clock in Guild Wars showing GMT would be doing.

If you really need a clock in Guild Wars, I suggest you buy a watch, or a clock to go in the room where you play. It can show your own time. When there is an event, you can do a simple sum like 12-8 to find out what time the event will be at in your time zone.

Or, use this page: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
It will do the simple calculation for you.

birdfoot

birdfoot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Singapore

Ordo Chaotika

W/Mo

Woot, TMT for Tyrian Mean Time?

I'm totally signed.

/signed

EDIT: They could base it off PST with the day/night cycle a quarter of how it is like in real life.

Zui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/

/not signed

In total agreement with Carth.

Aegeroth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, AUS.

Sons of Dark Magicians [SoDM]

N/Me

Whats the point?
To have a fancy time?
Sure, sounds okay but in time it'll become.. dusty.
Who's gonna go up to there friends at school 1 yr later and say, hey ill met you at LA at 6:00 TMT? No, id just say 4pm real life time.

/signed, but will become pointless.

brave bern

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

London

Fun With Blood (SuK)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth`
But what would be the point? People will just have to change their time from PST to GWT (Guild Wars Time) instead of PST to GMT. People just want a calculator to do a very simple calculation for them, that is all a clock in Guild Wars showing GMT would be doing.

If you really need a clock in Guild Wars, I suggest you buy a watch, or a clock to go in the room where you play. It can show your own time. When there is an event, you can do a simple sum like 12-8 to find out what time the event will be at in your time zone.

Or, use this page: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
It will do the simple calculation for you.
Yer OK point taken - but this is a fantasy game we are playing here - I am sure most people can work out the time differences- - but the adding of a tyrian clock would add to the verisimilitude - and - bring people together more under one time zone! Tyria has its own calendar - so why not its own clock -
Like saved skill sets - makes things easy - fun - and practical!

S_Serpent

S_Serpent

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

When not at Aziure's Wizard Tower you can find my in Belgium

Knigths of the Keyboard Order - KkO

Absolutly signed

Then A.net would have it very easy to set there event too, everybody would know when something starts.
But I would make it alot easier to set a time for guildevents and such.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Yup, settíng the game could get Windows time set and have a /clock or /time command to show time.

Or even a 'clock panel'.

rock god matty

rock god matty

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2008

uk home of the wet and windy :/

importent peoples of domenation[ipod]

E/Mo

/signed would work gr8 with my guilds events and all and it would be soo ace

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

There are another two options.
The @Swatch Internet Time.

And the Wiki has UTC.

If people check the time in the Wiki at UTC, they should see the time ingame at UTC.

And UTC is Universal!

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Funny, me and my guildies were talking about this as an option for GW2. Or a form of it.

We were talking on how it would be sweet if GW2 had a day/night system, and somehow got into saying that they should have their own time system. That way, it would be easier to have in game events (like have them start at sun rise and end at sun down a few days later, in game sun of course).

Whether the time used is a "game time" or shows the time that the game (and it's events) are based on show is good. And like it's been said before, it will work well with player made events.

I'll /sign for either, using the /time or /clock command to get it.

(P.S. Add a poll )

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

Epic bump of justice BTW.

I don't see what the problem would be with this - just set Guild Wars time to UTC and then they start posting the weekend events and whatever else in Guild Wars time.

But since this hasn't been done in 1.5 years after the thread started, don't see it happening.

/signed for GW2.

Accursed

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

One on the good ideas for the game of Guild Wars. Tired of minimizing Guild Wars or turning around in the middle of a quest for the time.

/signed for a /time command.

Operative 14

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

Guild Wars already has its own timezone; Pacific Standard Time. It seems like it would be easier to just put a clock down in the corner that shows PST time.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Operative 14
Guild Wars already has its own timezone; Pacific Standard Time. It seems like it would be easier to just put a clock down in the corner that shows PST time.
NO.

That's the time YOU see in your client.
Each translation and some regions have different times.
For example, Spanish translation uses GMT+1 (Madrid, Paris, Bruxelles, Copenhagen).
So, let's not think that the world revolves around people of certain language or region, ok?

Go to the Wiki and look at the top. If you activate JavaScript and use the default skin you'll see a clock. That clock is in UTC.

That's the one to use. Pacific time is NOT worldwide. Guild Wars IS worldwide. UTC is universal, worldwide and as logical as possible.

Using Pacific time would be as illogical as imposing those arbitrary Imperial customary units instead of the Metric System, when only three countries in the entire world have not accepted the Metric System: Liberia, Myanmar and the United States.

Logic is above ALL.

kazi_saki

kazi_saki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Somewhere between GW and GW2

Shaved Wookies [HoT]

N/

/sign for the in-game timer and tyrian mean time!!! I also had a thread for the in-game timer so /sign/sign/sign!!!!

inchoate

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Psycho Titans

E/R

God invented clocks and fingers. You look at a clock and use fingers to figure out what time it is in other places on the globe.

ANet also need to figure out that they are -8GMT, not -7 as they keep saying.

Operative 14

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
NO.

That's the time YOU see in your client.
Each translation and some regions have different times.
For example, Spanish translation uses GMT+1 (Madrid, Paris, Bruxelles, Copenhagen).
So, let's not think that the world revolves around people of certain language or region, ok?

Go to the Wiki and look at the top. If you activate JavaScript and use the default skin you'll see a clock. That clock is in UTC.

That's the one to use. Pacific time is NOT worldwide. Guild Wars IS worldwide. UTC is universal, worldwide and as logical as possible.

Using Pacific time would be as illogical as imposing those arbitrary Imperial customary units instead of the Metric System, when only three countries in the entire world have not accepted the Metric System: Liberia, Myanmar and the United States.

Logic is above ALL.
That's not what I was talking about. What I was saying was that if they are going to post things in PST, then they should just make PST the universal timezone for GW players to base it off of. Ergo, when they put a clock in the game, instead of having to write all sorts of code to make it so it switches time back and forth for people from -12 GMT and +12 GMT, they can just put a small clock in the corner that says what time it is relative to the ingame world; which just happens to correspond to PST.

I do not believe the world revolves around people of a certain region or language, and I kind of resent what you accused me of. I'm merely stating that GW already uses PST as their 'universal' timezone, and as such it seems like they could just put a small function in the game to make it easier to figure out for those of us that are not in the same zone (Which for half of the year I am). I'm all for GW having some sort of standardized time system, I'm just pointing out that they already have one. Arenanet is in Seattle, there's no reason why that shouldn't become the basis for standardized time were they to come up with one.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

And I have already stated that th official wiki uses UTC, not PST. And that each region has it's own time.

ArenaNt has quarters all over the world, one in Seattle, one in Bringston, etc...
It's not all dependant on Seattle, it's worldwide and all work toguether.

UTC is UNIVERSAL. Pacific time is NOT.
UTC is the one used as default in the Wiki clock, Pacific time is not.

Logic, not subjectivity.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Been suggested multiple times before and I always /sign it.

GW being an international game could really use easily accessible universal time, for events, update times, and player / international guild meetings.

A simple /time command would do, right now the closest thing we can use is the recently added UTC clock at official GW Wiki http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page

Tatile

Tatile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

N/Me

/signed for UTC clock

It makes perfect sense and will help to arrange the events easier (paritularly with people screaming 'When does the event start').

Proff

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

Or just show GMT time in game, or even better yet, you can check what time it is yourself.... honestly it's not that hard.

http://www.timezoneconverter.com/

sykoone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mystical Chaos

E/

Mithran, PST is used as the GW standard time. If you doubt this, look at any event timeframe on the official site, and you''ll see it noted in PST. The time used on the wiki has nothing to do with Anet, since Anet doesn't actually run the wiki. It was a decision by the users and admins to use UTC there.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

The PST in the wiki is derived from people copying data from the the US home page. The last Dragon Festival had also times in UTC.

Why to stick with PST if it's not universal unlike UTC that it's already implemented in the wiki?

Why to make something for some and then make the rest adapt instead making something for all and let everyone adapt?

credit

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

I didn't think that timezone conversions were that difficult.

/Notsigned.

Operative 14

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

The announcements on the login page are shown in PST, that's not just an arbitrary decision by the Wiki writers. Yes, Anet has offices all over the world, but by far their headquarters is definitely in Seattle. It makes sense for me they would make it the basis for all times, just as I would expect if I were playing a game from a company based in London or Brisbane they would use local time from there.

And I think you're forgetting that PST is just as universal as UTC/GMT. It's still exactly the same system, it's just a different offset. I don't know about you, but I still have to convert my time when I'm accounting for events and such. If they switched to GMT/UTC it would still inconvenience the same number of people, and it would have no basis for Anet or GW.

The reason they haven't changed the design of the wheel in over 2,000 years is because it still works. PST works just as well for GW as UTC/GMT would; the same number of people would still have to go online and convert their time. There's no reason to change it. Logic, not subjectivity.

All they really need to do is just put a PST clock down in the corner so people can login and see how long they have, regardless of what they have their clocks next to their computer set to. Or maybe even a command like /mytime for our local times, and /gametime for PST. Or, better yet, ignore timezones completely and just put a counter into the system that says "Emperor Kisu will be arriving in XXX minutes."

Amnel Ithtirsol

Amnel Ithtirsol

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

AU

League Of The Fallen

Mo/

/signed

Buying stuff from Guru Auctions is also sometimes a pain because of time differences...

Oh, and GMT please. Follow the international standard.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

/unsigned

Is it really that hard to figure out what PST time is where you live? If you can do it once, you can do it all the time.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

I dont normally have a problem with time, jsut the odd time where im not sure do i add +7 or +8 for Daylight savings.

/signed because it doesnt seem that hard to implement and it would help alot of people.
maybe an toggle option though

smoochie kinz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Misery

Penguins and Eskimos (Brrr)

/sign

I think its a great idea.... Would make life easier as I have quite a few friends that never get the idea. Even if you put a certain time and specify the time zone they still are clueless.... I think the command /time would be the best. That way any time there is a question about time all u have to do is type the command.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

The time command could say:

Your time: 00:00:00 (Player system clock time, Windows time)
Tyrian time: 00:00:00 (UTC time)
Difference: ±00 (System time) - (UTC time) = +12..-11