Lightbringer Rank Discrimination. It's inevitable, we all know it.
For many of us with guilds and Alliances, it won't matter. You can still get nice groups without an uber Lightbringer rank.
However, the majority of groups which will forum in the Domain of Anguish will be PuGs.
And PuGs in a freely accessable Elite Mission is bad news. Remember how many times a PuG Warrior over-aggroed and killed your team during the Elite Mission Weekend event last August? This will be worse. Much worse.
PuGs will need any advantage they can get. That, conveinently, comes in the form of Lightbringer Rank.
If you are capable of reading these forums, chances are, you will be the person creating the PuG. You'll be too frustrated trying to join other PuGs with no clue. It happened very often during the Elite Mission Event.
So, if you make a PuG in the Domain of Anguish (or, hypothetically, if you prefer), what Lightbringer rank will you require?
I've seen several posts suggesting atleast R2, for Lightbringer's Gaze, R4, since it indicates that a player completed most quests in the Realm of Torment, or even R7-8, just for the best possible advantage.
I, myself, will require Lightbringer Rank 2. For one, if the person has completed the game and doesn't have LB R2, then he's already pathetic. Second, he has Lightbringer's Gaze, which helps a ton: It's the interrupt that is key.
The damage bonus doesn't help at all if the team sucks anyways...
EDIT: Of course, everyone will need to Ctrl + click their skillbar, regardless. I still don't want Mending W/Mos...
What Lightbringer Rank will you require for Domain of Anguish PuGs?
Zinger314
SeZMehK
Yea, I agree. Rank 2 is fine by me for those same reasons as well. But I wouldnt say if they dont have R2 by the end then they're pathetic. Its just annoying to concentrate on the titles anyway lol.
Kaane
R2 bare minimum. I hate rank-elitists but you're right about that people should have R2 by the time they finish the game--if you don't it means you've done pretty much nothing but the bare minimum and you've probably ran through a lot of areas instead of fighting through.
Juicey Shake
seeing as I have r8 I could care less. preferably 4+ tho, all 8 would be best for damage reduction
Tommy
no rank
. make love not war if i ever play with pugs i wont care about their rank. if i do care i just play with my guidies or friends or heroes w/e.
they are pugs what do you expect from them?
they are pugs what do you expect from them?
Gordon Ecker
As long as you take all available blessings and fight rather than running, you're pretty much guaranteed to reach rank 2 from the primary quests in Realm of Torment.
Rera
r8, since almost everyone I know has it.
ramma77
oh shut up. r8 blah blah blah. Oh look you can do an exploit it must mean you are superior players to everyone else.
=0 this player is going to take 4 more damage thean everyone else. we can't possibly deal with that. EEEEEEEEEEP
=0 this player is going to take 4 more damage thean everyone else. we can't possibly deal with that. EEEEEEEEEEP
Spike
I would prefer people to have rank 2 LB to do the grand court mission, let alone this elite mission. I would MUCH rather have a mending wammo than a sin anyday. Its not the damage reduction ramma thats important its the 100 odd damage + interupting X mobs (where x = LB rank) thats is
GUE Tech
I just hero/henched the entire game. My rank in lightbringer is 1.
Yeah pathetic, I know.. What's even funnier is, up until Ruins of Morah, my monk heroes had starter wands.
Yeah pathetic, I know.. What's even funnier is, up until Ruins of Morah, my monk heroes had starter wands.
Rera
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Originally Posted by ramma77
oh shut up. r8 blah blah blah. Oh look you can do an exploit it must mean you are superior players to everyone else.
=0 this player is going to take 4 more damage thean everyone else. we can't possibly deal with that. EEEEEEEEEEP I was hoping I could bait someone more intelligent into arguing with me, but I guess you'll just have to do. /sarcasm
Here's a hint: my previous post was code for "I don't PuG".
=0 this player is going to take 4 more damage thean everyone else. we can't possibly deal with that. EEEEEEEEEEP I was hoping I could bait someone more intelligent into arguing with me, but I guess you'll just have to do. /sarcasm
Here's a hint: my previous post was code for "I don't PuG".
Bo Azum
Well, if you want to discriminate on LB ranks, I think level 2 is fair, at the least. No real trouble in getting that rank through quests..
But if someone shows he knows what do to, even not having LB2, that is fine too.
Behaviour+knowledge > Ctrl+Clicky > LB rank.... (no "GO GO GO", that's trouble :P)
But if someone shows he knows what do to, even not having LB2, that is fine too.
Behaviour+knowledge > Ctrl+Clicky > LB rank.... (no "GO GO GO", that's trouble :P)
Durik Lakmor
I wouldn't require anything, simply because "rank" does not exactly = skill, just time put into grinding yet another thing. Don't get me wrong the actual effects of the title are nice and have great benefits but I'd rather have a group of R1s who can work together than a group of people who are R6+ and have big heads and attitudes.
MelechRic
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Originally Posted by Rera
I was hoping I could bait someone more intelligent into arguing with me, but I guess you'll just have to do. /sarcasm
Here's a hint: my previous post was code for "I don't PuG". So you're admitting to being a troll. How mature/intelligent of you.
Here's a hint: my previous post was code for "I don't PuG". So you're admitting to being a troll. How mature/intelligent of you.
TheGuildWarsPenguin
In LB ranks, rank does not equal skill. So r2 is sufficient since you get LB gaze which does AoE damage and interrupts.
Rera
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Originally Posted by MelechRic
So you're admitting to being a troll. How mature/intelligent of you.
Didn't you know? Trolling is the widely respected pastime of people who can't take your argument seriously. I also like people who act as though talking about someone else's maturity makes them somehow better.
My post was fine until ramma decided to make stupid comments. Granted, his response was extremely predictable, but it doesn't change the fact that my original answer was perfectly legitimate answer to the OP's question.
Didn't you know? Trolling is the widely respected pastime of people who can't take your argument seriously. I also like people who act as though talking about someone else's maturity makes them somehow better.My post was fine until ramma decided to make stupid comments. Granted, his response was extremely predictable, but it doesn't change the fact that my original answer was perfectly legitimate answer to the OP's question.
MelechRic
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Originally Posted by Rera
Didn't you know? Trolling is the widely respected pastime of people who can't take your argument seriously. I also like people who act as though talking about someone else's maturity makes them somehow better.
Well you're mistaken. Talking about your maturity doesn't make me better than you, but not feeding trolls does.
Have a nice day!
Have a nice day!
Tommy
dont pug doesn't make someone a troll.. there are ppl like me out there playing gw like neverwinter night2 i had never talked to anyone for 6 months in game.
kazjun
I'd go r2 for gaze. I haven't done a single LB quest so far and I'm r4 just from killing things as I travel around exploring and skill capping. If you're too lazy to walk a few steps extra and talk to whispers informent or a forgotten, then I don't want you on my team.
Tiny Killer
Well, I think rank 9 is a good low end of the spectrum. After all, if someone is rank 8 or less, they are just showing that they do not have the dedication to continue on beyond what they thought was the limit. Who wants a player like that on their team?
Of course, the flip side would be to simply not care about Lightbringer rank. Many made it through the entire game without it so I cannot fathom it being the only way to survive in the new area. Will it help? I am sure it will. Required to complete? I doubt it. It is nice to see the discrimination starting even before any of you have been to the new area though. That makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about the world outside my door. Makes it a bit easier to understand the popularity of Heroes, methinks.
Of course, the flip side would be to simply not care about Lightbringer rank. Many made it through the entire game without it so I cannot fathom it being the only way to survive in the new area. Will it help? I am sure it will. Required to complete? I doubt it. It is nice to see the discrimination starting even before any of you have been to the new area though. That makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about the world outside my door. Makes it a bit easier to understand the popularity of Heroes, methinks.
Scutilla
Infinity. I'm not touching a PUG unless I absolutely have to, this being one of the many reasons why.
Antheus
First, and obvious question is, will gaze/LB be even needed? What if the mobs are different?
Secondly, R2 is all anyone needs, since I assume there will be little to no need to agro more than 3-5 mobs at the same time, making R2-5 completely sufficient.
And lastly, there better be a very good reason to not use heroes there, since even remotest nonsense about rank will make anyone who's serious to simply pull a heroway. Just like HA. Because that's all it comes down to in the end.
Secondly, R2 is all anyone needs, since I assume there will be little to no need to agro more than 3-5 mobs at the same time, making R2-5 completely sufficient.
And lastly, there better be a very good reason to not use heroes there, since even remotest nonsense about rank will make anyone who's serious to simply pull a heroway. Just like HA. Because that's all it comes down to in the end.
Wilhelm
Rank 4, as already stated.
Can't wait till i get to spam Rank 8 Monk lfg hehe
Can't wait till i get to spam Rank 8 Monk lfg hehe
Sid Doog
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Originally Posted by Juicey Shake
seeing as I have r8 I could care less. preferably 4+ tho, all 8 would be best for damage reduction
who dosnt have r8 just about everyone does lol
greyf0x_f0x
correction, everyone who knew how to exploit the afk farming bug does
I seriously doubt anyone who currently has r8 lightbringer got it through "legitimate" means. For myself, I'd have never gotten to r6 were it not for the afk farming method, I'd have probably still been a lowly rank 2 or 3. As such, I'd think r3-4 would be a good requirement. it shows that you've put some work into the title, but haven't gone crazy over it.
I seriously doubt anyone who currently has r8 lightbringer got it through "legitimate" means. For myself, I'd have never gotten to r6 were it not for the afk farming method, I'd have probably still been a lowly rank 2 or 3. As such, I'd think r3-4 would be a good requirement. it shows that you've put some work into the title, but haven't gone crazy over it.
Savio
I'd set a rank requirement, but heroes won't show their titles and my guildies (excluding a certain rank discriminator) will find their way into my group anyway.
Zinger314
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Originally Posted by Savio
I'd set a rank requirement, but heroes won't show their titles and my guildies (excluding a certain rank discriminator) will find their way into my group anyway.
Hey...that was mean.
Savio gets no more praise fro me.
Savio gets no more praise fro me.
Senator Tom
I'll require r8
r8's lets discriminate! United we stand!
r8's lets discriminate! United we stand!
LoKi Foxfire
Easy solution: Use Heroes.
I don't do PUGs. :3
I don't do PUGs. :3
Tales
Ranked 8? Nice. I guess ranked 2 will do for me. How are you people sure that Domain of Anguish is going to feature demons?
Zinger314
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Originally Posted by LoKi Foxfire
I don't do PUGs. :3
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Originally Posted by Tales
Ranked 8? Nice. I guess ranked 2 will do for me. How are you people sure that Domain of Anguish is going to feature demons?
Because it's Abaddon's freaking realm!
Tales
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
If it follows the same as other Elite missions, there will be a 12 man limit, and no Henchmen. So you need atleast 3 Humans.
Because it's Abaddon's freaking realm! Well! How am I suppose to know? Not everything in the world turns out to be what It seems. Everyone is cranky about PuG or What Lightbringer Ranked you are. I guess its the Elite mission weekend high. 
maraxusofk
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Well, I think rank 9 is a good low end of the spectrum.
Lol this is either extreme sarcasm or begging for a flame right there. im gonna just kindly point out that there is no r9 lightbringer. highest is 8.
i would say lvl 3 lightbringer cuz at lvl 3, it means ur gaze will do al lil bit more than the average person will. if ur lvl 3, chances are u didnt afk farm cuz u at least go over lvl 4 doing a few hours of afk. also, lvl 2 is like the bare minium. ill probably accpet lvl 2 but would prefer r3+. gonna be fun spamming r8 vanquishing hero, lvl 4 lb lfg! RANK DISCRIMINATE FTW!
Ulivious The Reaper
i think r2 will be fine with me.. seeing as anyone thats r8 obviously didn't play and has no clue what they're doing.. and people that played such as myself have like r4 at most and thats serious grind, but i'm glad Anet did take out the exploit
My Green Storage
Finished game on my necro 2 weeks ago .. level 2. Infact I didn't get level 2 until Tuesday?
At abaddon now with my ele, still level 1 (230/300 points). Too many people depends on 1 skill. "What you dont have Lightbringer's gaze?!?!?" "We're gonna lose for sure!!!" kazjun
It's just about speed. A 5 energy 100 damage nuke with aoe interrupt? Who wouldn't want that. On the other hand, between heroes and henches I usually only had the one gaze, and half the time I didn't use it cause the mob had been killed and there were like 2 left and I consider it a waste to gaze two arms of insanity.
aohige
Two guildies/friends, me, and bunch of heroes are fine with me.
I won't PUG unless I'm the only person among my friends logging in during the weekend.... and for some reason, I seriously doubt that's going to be the case. Meanwhile, I'll be displaying the KoaBD title instead of my "OMG I AFK FARMED TO RANK8".  I just have to remember to turn it on once I'm in the mission.... o_O sage tank
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Tiny Killer said | Well, I think rank 9 is a good low end of the spectrum. After all, if someone is rank 8 or less, they are just showing that they do not have the dedication to continue on beyond what they thought was the limit. Who wants a player like that on their team? Of course, the flip side would be to simply not care about Lightbringer rank. Many made it through the entire game without it so I cannot fathom it being the only way to survive in the new area. Will it help? I am sure it will. Required to complete? I doubt it. It is nice to see the discrimination starting even before any of you have been to the new area though. That makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about the world outside my door. Makes it a bit easier to understand the popularity of Heroes, methinks. Are you on crack, if you are, tell me how you get to rank 9 on LB because I would really really appreciate it. If it is a secret I'll pay you for the info. I rather have Heros or people who knows what they are doing with r2 LB on my team instead of you, who apparently has r9 LB don't know what you are talking about. Arrogant Morons these days.....
WhiteZombie
teams in pve that require rank for you to join are groups you dont want to be joining in the first place.
natuxatu
I hardly notice a difference only slightly. I wouldn't have a requirement.. I could care less.
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