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Originally Posted by LoKi Foxfire
Yea, I hit R4 tonight. Shadows and Margonites are the best farm... I managed to farm up like about the same amount in one hour. I wonder when this stops because at some point it has to; otherwise, you'll be doing some insane damage to Abbadon's allies...
So no reward at R4 - hopefully that won't be the end of it because I kind of look forward to getting a neat PvE skill or bonus. :X
01 Dec 2006 at 13:25 - 3
Ok i'll play Devil's Advocate. I enjoy seeing a nice discussion once in a while
Why was this an exploit and the AFK 9 rings, the lutgardis FF run(people stayed put, let a runner get the points and then got the reward), or letting a monk rez a mob in order to get sunspear rank 9(afterall AN did'nt intend people to get to r9 just yet) not?
Is something an exploit only if AN change something so it no longer works?
The only reason I can think people might think it was an exploit was that it did'nt require players to actually do anything after a certain point in time and not continuously. But then again so did 9 rings. LB rank does give an in game bonus, but then so does lucky/unlucky in that it contributes to KoBD. So I dunno..
01 Dec 2006 at 13:42 - 4
As far as I'm concerned there are no exploits. If it's programmed into the game then it is fair game. Now that it has been removed, that's fine too. It doesn't matter either way to me. It's not like someone's AFK farming took away points from someone else.
I'm just wondering how many lightbringer points will be around in the Domain of Anguish. I guess we'll all find out soon.
01 Dec 2006 at 13:54 - 5
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Originally Posted by Lost
As far as I'm concerned there are no exploits. If it's programmed into the game then it is fair game. Now that it has been removed, that's fine too. It doesn't matter either way to me. It's not like someone's AFK farming took away points from someone else.
I'm just wondering how many lightbringer points will be around in the Domain of Anguish. I guess we'll all find out soon.
You're right it didn't take points away from anybody... instead it created a bunch of elitist tossers who think they are better than everyone else because they have rank 8.
bring it 
01 Dec 2006 at 13:57 - 6
How did 9 rings make them money? And is something not an exploit if it affects the economy by taking gold out of it?
The Lutgardis FF run gave 100 gold and 2000XP i think. So was'nt 9 rings and the FF run more of an exploit since it affected the economy?
The exploits I do remember for sure were the doppleganger one, where a bug let you get 50K XP over and over again and the 12/8 GvG teams. Both of which were so obviously bugs.
But I really dunno on this one, I note in the closed thread that someone had sought clarification from AN on it. I wonder what came back.
01 Dec 2006 at 14:01 - 7
9 Rings is a different subject all together, and doesn't have anything to do with Lightbringer.
I asked nicely if we could avoid talking about the 'exploit" AFK farming. So please can we not speak about it anymore. I made this new thread to give everyone a chance to dicuss farming areas and builds, not how A.net stopped something.
It's in the past, lets move on.
01 Dec 2006 at 14:06 - 8
Ok
Nightfallen Garden. I went in there just to look around and ended up getting about 600-700 LB points. Once you get the margonite blessing/hunt/whatever it's game on!!1!!!!
there must be 300 margonites waiting to get slaughtered.
01 Dec 2006 at 14:16 - 9
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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
9 Rings is a different subject all together, and doesn't have anything to do with Lightbringer.
I asked nicely if we could avoid talking about the 'exploit" AFK farming. So please can we not speak about it anymore. I made this new thread to give everyone a chance to dicuss farming areas and builds, not how A.net stopped something.
It's in the past, lets move on.
Ok Np, sorry. I just picked up on the word exploit in your original post and wanted to seek clarification.
Normal service is now resumed..
01 Dec 2006 at 14:16 - 10
Right well generally farming Margonites and Shadows is the best and easiest way to rank up points. They are both weak, unless you aggro too many at once.
01 Dec 2006 at 14:19 - 11
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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
They are both weak, unless you aggro too many at once.
You can't aggro too many at once.
01 Dec 2006 at 14:20 - 12
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Originally Posted by Savio
(Originally posted in the AFK farming topic)
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Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer
Everyone saw it coming, but im really dissapointed in HOW Anet nerfed it. They fixed the so-called exploit, but also punished those who farm LB points the hard way.
How so? The "hard way" doesn't involve repeatedly killing spawns of Torment creatures.
I'm glad ANET removed this cheap way of getting LB points. That was getting ridiculous. Since 3 or 4 days my alliance chat was completely dead. I realized soon absolutely everybody and their dog were AFK "farming". And I won't mention how cheap it was...
However, there is one problem atm: getting 50K points is kinda insane - 2 points per kill, that's 100,000 monsters to go (how many points can you get from the 100 LBP quest? 2K?), especially if you compare that to the 15K sunspear points (yes, I know it's broken, but it's going to be fixed). So let's hope we will have the oportunity of gaining much more points from the elite mission (and I dunno why but I have the feeling we will - let's wait and see...).
01 Dec 2006 at 14:20 - 13
Nightfallen Garden. i was in there about 90 minutes. 600-700 LB points. I'm sure if i put thought into it i could probably half that time. It has probably the biggest concentration of margonites in the game.
01 Dec 2006 at 14:28 - 14
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Originally Posted by Sir Mad
However, there is one problem atm: getting 50K points is kinda insane - 2 points per kill, that's 100,000 monsters to go
25,000 monsters. Clearing out Margonites and Shadows in the Domain of Secrets with just heroes and henchies nets you between 1,000-1,500 points an hour. You could get more if you managed to set up a group. Depending on how many hours you're willing to spend a day farming it, it wouldn't be impossible to get it in a few weeks.
01 Dec 2006 at 14:40 - 15
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Originally Posted by Savio
25,000 monsters. Clearing out Margonites and Shadows in the Domain of Secrets with just heroes and henchies nets you between 1,000-1,500 points an hour. You could get more if you managed to set up a group. Depending on how many hours you're willing to spend a day farming it, it wouldn't be impossible to get it in a few weeks.
 I shouldn't try to do math when I'm tired if I don't wanna be ridiculous.
I still hope we will have the possibilty of doing something more exciting than clearing areas over and over to max this title (repetitive quests in the new elite area as in UW/FoW awarded by 250 points for ex would make it much more interesting IMO).
01 Dec 2006 at 15:04 - 16
Wouldn't be surprised if bounties in the elite area went up to 7+ LB points a kill. I figure it'll still take a few weeks for the casual player playing a few hours a week in the elite area. Or at least I hope it'll be that way.
01 Dec 2006 at 15:21 - 17
I see my previous post was deleted. Because your post was about AFK farming fix, etc... - RTS
I farmed 50 000 pts for main char in DoS and got about 500 pts in 30-40min.
So it's about two days of non-stop farming with those figures to get from 0 to 50k. Not sure if I'll farm max title for other chars though.
01 Dec 2006 at 20:39 - 18
Is nightfallen garden useless once you've beat the game? To me, it looks like any other explorable area. (Garden of Seborhin) Am I missing something?
01 Dec 2006 at 22:28 - 19
I thought nightfallen garden turns back into regular garden if you finish the game. I also heard that nightfallen garden was the best place to farm for LB points. But now I also see that domain of secrets is supposedly the best place. So is secrets hands down the best right now or is garden actually better, but only if you haven't changed it back by finishing the game?
Personally I think anet should up the bounty a bit. Getting 2 per kill up to 50k kinda takes the fun out of the grind. Granted, maybe the ANET devs figured it would even out considering the more ranks you achieve, the faster killing these guys becomes since you get the lightbringer title bonus damage. But in practice it doesn't speed the grind up by all that much as you still have to walk from point A to point B between groups (last I checked, lightbringer ranks didn't give speed boosts).
02 Dec 2006 at 01:57 - 20
I think my nf garden is gone... I thought I was only missing one of the spots on the torment map and now 2 are gone. What is the next best place to farm. I still need several hundred for rank 5.
02 Dec 2006 at 06:12 - 21
Easiest LB farm I've found so far is to just clear out the Margonites in their citadel in Domain of Secrets. Pop out of Gate of Secrets, grab the bounty and kill em all.
Quick and easy, normally pick up at least 2 chests on the way.
I don't bother with the Shadow or Titans. Just rezone and take the Margonites again. Margonites don't seem to offer hardly any risk of death (unless you get mobbed) and are easily tanked with heroes/henches.
02 Dec 2006 at 10:28 - 22
So..if I got it right the fastest way to farm lb points is to go to Domain of Secrets and take left path to margonite citadel and slay them all there. Repeat.
Any other ways to make around 1k/hour?
02 Dec 2006 at 18:08 - 23
Didn't A-NET promise NEW methods of getting lightbringer and sunspear points?
I'd think the elite mission should at least give you 7x points per kill (considering how difficult it is).
03 Dec 2006 at 05:38 - 24
If Domain of Anguish gave us 7 lb points per kill, my god, I could rack up some insane numbers per hour.
There's a way to kill hundreds (yes, hundreds. They spawn at insane rate) of those touch necros in Stygian area with using corner bodyblock, trapper, and Eles. We were pumping out dead torments like crazy. o_O
Countless drops, many rares, chests, etc. I can easily see that area turning into farming heaven.
03 Dec 2006 at 06:19 - 25
As mentioned the Domain of Secrets Citadel is best place. I saw no change in the way of LB pts after update, still 2 LB pts per kill. Farming the Citadel of Margonites should get you about 350 Lb pts (that includes the several goups outside of citadel). If you hit the Warden for Monoliths and Servants that should get you about another 200 LB pts. I wouldn't do Titans either, they take too long to kill. On an average 30-45 min run, I rack up about 550 LB pts (Margonites, Monoliths & Servants). Usually see 5 chests, on average 2 of the 5 are gold. If you pick up all drops (weapons) and cash them in, that alongside the gold you get almost offsets the cost for 4 of the 5 keys I usually buy.
Don't write off Monoliths .. One of them dropped me a nice Max Gold Req 9 Elemental Sword
03 Dec 2006 at 09:54 - 26
I don't see how to get LB points in Domain of the Anguish, because there are no res shrines with priests there... Except when I'm very wrong, you must have there bounty before you can get the LB points.
Is any of you LB farmers by accident a monk that can say me how I can make my points pretty quick on a fun way (so no AFK things - I know it's nerfed), but still rather fast. If I must call and heal at the same time, the mobs commonly pick me out to spike at, and I don't trust hero/henchman monks anymore since they let me down fairly easy.
03 Dec 2006 at 23:26 - 27
04 Dec 2006 at 02:33 - 28
I think the current rate of LB points given in bounties is very good. Max titles never meant to be easy(or fast) to get. Boosting the bounties would be like giving 2 chest opens when you only opened one.
04 Dec 2006 at 02:43 - 29
Grandmaster Treasure Hunter: 10,000 chests opened = 10,000 chests you have to open.
Holy Lightbringer: 50,000 Promotion Points = 25,000 monsters killed.
Change it to 5 points per kill and we'll call it even.
04 Dec 2006 at 02:55 - 30
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Originally Posted by -.-
Grandmaster Treasure Hunter: 10,000 chests opened = 10,000 chests you have to open.
Holy Lightbringer: 50,000 Promotion Points = 25,000 monsters killed.
Change it to 5 points per kill and we'll call it even.
Chest are harder to find and it's not free to open. I would also like it if they give us lightbringer without equiping the title. This way I dont have to switch between titles.
04 Dec 2006 at 02:55 - 31
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Originally Posted by -.-
Grandmaster Treasure Hunter: 10,000 chests opened = 10,000 chests you have to open.
Holy Lightbringer: 50,000 Promotion Points = 25,000 monsters killed.
Change it to 5 points per kill and we'll call it even.
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