Pure Fire Ele Troll farm (under 15 second)

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales







great job slayer


THE BUILD



This build is not 100% made by me......some of its main features have been thought out and done before by others but quite differently with different proffesions and a few different skills.... This build on this page is MY TWEAKED and My most EFFECTIVE one I have DEVELOPED... NOT MADE LOL, it can take on the trolls and thier bosses by themselves quite quicky. A group of trolls will take about 15 seconds, and the bosses less than 60 seconds each

Stats:

16 fire
15 water
4 energy storge

Skills:

[skill]Mist Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Sacrifice[/skill][skill]Meteor Shower[/skill][skill]Bed of Coals[/skill][skill]Lava Font[/skill][skill]Inferno[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Armor of Mist[/skill]


My Prefered weapon:

Very cheap, very effective =]

another good option is flints artifact/the kinderlock + totem axe

but if your rich go get rago's flame staff lol


To Kill Group of trolls:


Leave droknars Cast Armor of mist when your about half way to the cave when you get there cast fire attunment Enter the cave and gather the groups inside before making left or right turns Do the skills In order from 1-6 BUT! Have a 1 second gap between lava font and inferno casts they should be dead as in video (ignore the mesmer skill)
Bosses group

wait for meteor shower to recharge do the same dmg pattern to the boss and his near trolls as you did earlier but oull them into the tight exit of the cave when the trolls die the boss should be at about 40-50% health
Then to kill the bosses Seperartly that is =]:
Spam Lava Font and cast inferno and mist form when you can Its pretty chaotic but if yo spam lava font he'll run away before he hist you you should be able to spam well with the attunment Keeping the lava font up will kill him quite quicky especialy with combined inferno spams and as for the ranger boss he may seem harder with troll ungeint but those spirit casts sure do take some time (casts lava font) should be easy
If you wanna take out minos at elonasswap [skill]Armor of Mist[/skill] for [skill]Flame Burst[/skill] forget the one second gap between lavafont and inferno and just cast all the attacks in order, if any left over (unlikely) just recast lavafont and they will be nice and dead quick =]
Prophecies Only troll build


Thats got [skill]Glyph of Elemental Power[/skill] btw =]

-Tain- added guide:

Quote:
Originally Posted by - Tain -
This will be my last post in this thread - it's getting ridiculously frustrating to watch. The same questions come up again and again, and every time I have provided an answer that works 100% of the time, along with "I'll show you in-game if you have trouble with it."

None of the posted builds are faster or more consistent than these:

Trolls, Minos, and Undergrowth (Proph & Factions):
1. Armor of Mist
2. Mist Form [E]
3. Glyph of Sacrifice
4. Meteor Shower
5. Bed of Coals
6. Lava Font
7. Frozen Burst
8. Flame Burst

Trolls and Minos (Proph only):
1. Armor of Mist
2. Mist Form [E]
3. Glyph of Sacrifice
4. Meteor Shower
5. Mark of Rodgort
6. Lava Font
7. Frozen Burst
8. Flame Burst

Use Armor of Mist (1) to get to your farming destination quickly and safely. Once you have aggro'd all the trolls or minos in the area, or as many as you comfortable with, simply stop and hit 'C' followed by 2-8. If you don't aggro ALL the minos in elona, I recommend that you pull your minos off to the side before chaining the skills, so you don't get any healthy ones joining halfway through.


Note 1) Yes, I keep Armor of Mist for mino runs... the speed boost gets you down to the lake faster, and allows you to aggro a lot of minos before they actually start to follow (just like everything else, I can show you in-game if you don't understand).

Note 2) I know Flame Burst is slightly less damage than Inferno, but it more than makes up for it with the extended range. It is not uncommon for an enemy to get caught on something (usually just stuck behind one of its buddies), and the extra range on Flame Burst ensures that everything gets hit by that last damage spike. Nothing has ever lived because Flame Burst lacks that 10 more damage. Also, f you ever need to let out one or two more spells to finish an enemy, Flame Burst has half the recharge time of Inferno.

Note 3) This build kills in one simple skill chain. No, it's not quickly repeatable, but it doesn't need to be. The reason for that is simple... it may be fun killing the troll bosses, but it's a huge waste of time. Farming effectively is getting the most cash out of the time you put in. In the minute and a half you spend waiting for meteor shower to recharge so you can nuke the boss, I'm cleaning up after another bunch of 20 trolls.

Note 4) The ideal weapon for this is any staff with +20 energy (+10 base, +5>50 inscription, +5 insightful head) and a 20% enchant wrap. You don't need faster cast time, you don't need faster recharge, you don't need armor, you don't need to meet the requirement to do wand damage. There are a few weaponsmiths in NF who can make this for you for 5k + a few cheap materials, and the mods are cheap, too. Or, if you like greens, you can use the Fervorborn Staff or any green Ghostly Staff (Divine, Grim, Inspired, Everlasting).

Note 5) Yes, this can be done without using all superior runes, or without having all attribute points, or even without being Ele primary. Again, just like everything else, I'll help you out in-game if you're having problems.
Credits:Me lol People on this thread benjef's mo/e thread Mr slayer for his video - Tain -
Enjoy

Why_Me

Why_Me

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

New Jersey

Mo/

I like your format, here's another build.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

=] nice.... I havn't got nightfall yet lol =[ ...... nneeed moooreee skilllsss =]

do you know what i find funny... the more builds areanet takes away... the better we make them, like these ele builds take like less than 1/3 of the time a prot bond 55 monks would kill ...go ele's go!

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

If you can do without the Factions skill Bed of Coals, that's all Prophecies skills, right?

I assume "Lava Fountain" is really Lava Font.

Bloodied Blade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

^^

You can just take a page from the "55 farmers rejoice" thingy and bring Frozen Burst + Mist Form if you want to try to do this with all proph skills.

benjef

benjef

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England

Farming Crew Nl [FCNL]

Mo/

All hail my build

r3dsk4r3

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

N/E

This works fine with either whirlwind or frozen burst as the snare. Trolls still = bad (but consistent) drops, however i'm just as excited about the xp, as all of my skill points seem to have disappeared since nightfall came out. Good job on the build and the criticisms.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Just to play devil's advocate, a water elite and whirlwind doesn't *really* constitute a pure fire ele.

That being said, I played around with a version of this on minotaurs, and it's a lot of fun.

Just make sure you get them all on the first pass, or you'll have a big angry monster smacking you in the head while you try to pick up your loot.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

to add some flavour just add Brambles =]

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[SMS]

R/

I dropped Lava Arrows for Armor of Mist... speeds up the run For any 'cleanup' I just hit Lava Font and Whirlwind

Edit: Flame Burst works nicely for that 7th slot for minos, they tend to take 1 more spell to kill and that does it

mwpeck

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

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I dont have factions, what could I use to replace Bed of coals....anything? I was thinking of Searing Heat, but it doesnt do near as much damage as bed of coals(i dont think energy will matter too much).

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[SMS]

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Try this:
Glyph of Sacrifice, Meteor Shower, Mark of Rodgort, Flame Burst, Lava Font, Whirlwind, Inferno, Mist Form

Hit mist form and then chain like this:
glyph -> shower -> mark -> burst -> lava -> whirlwind -> inferno -> burst

I'll try it myself and work out any issues, check back later for an update

mwpeck

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by - Tain -
Try this:
Glyph of Sacrifice, Meteor Shower, Mark of Rodgort, Flame Burst, Lava Font, Whirlwind, Inferno, Mist Form

Hit mist form and then chain like this:
glyph -> shower -> mark -> burst -> lava -> whirlwind -> inferno -> burst

I'll try it myself and work out any issues, check back later for an update Ok, doing The Dragon's Lair right now to get to droks. This should be able to be modified to do it, though.

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

im gonna try this me/e with fcing. should be fun.

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

Trolls? Seriously people trolls give what a max of 2k an hour (not even). If you the cash bad enough be a PvE noob and go find a farm group and if you have NightFall get the wurm and go solo Vah's Hornbow and sell it before it drops in price or use henchman and send them out of range then kill the boss if a wurm is not available (this is how i get most of my greens).

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[SMS]

R/

2k/hour?! Counting golds, keys, and collector drops (trade in troll tusks, sell orr emblems to players 80-100g per), I easily get 100k+ per hour rotating between trolls, minos, and gates of kryta. And it's much, much more consistent farming solo than in a farm group or going for 1 green boss, who you would hit farm code on quickly.

mwpeck

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

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No kidding, in pure gold it takes me maybe 4 runs to get 2k.(pure gold as in before selling things) Thats not counting selling the tusks, any keys and of course golds, either.

I dont know about 100k but I havnt farmed trolls that much for some time.

Though back before the AoE nerf, I got 1.5k a run, once I got 2 black dyes in just 2 runs.

PS: Tain, do you use an ele build, or a 55 build for the GoK runs? cause I have used a 55 that still works for it, but I dont see how an ele could kill all the ranged.

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

What are Orr Emblems good for that people actually want?

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[SMS]

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Putting in a solid hour, you can get a solid 100k.

mwpeck: I use an ele, faster than any other way I've seen it done Just run in, set a Lava Font and spam Flame Burst.. everything dies in <10 secs. If you want the whole build or want to see it work, PM me in-game.

Francis: For the Wintersday event, 3 orr emblems = 1 candy cane. They completely remove DP (pve only), and have sold up to 1k each.

The Last Anthem

The Last Anthem

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

my guildhall.

Mo/

Heh I tried it a black dye dropped on first kill

r3dsk4r3

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

N/E

100k an hour? Thats pretty amazing. Are people still buying the emblems even though its not wintersday anymore?

dr love

dr love

...is in denial

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hyperion

starcraft 2

P/Me

quickie,
where are the minos clustered?
and what do u farm in gates of kryta??

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

I'm having a little trouble understanding the timing.

You cast Meteor Shower.
The you hit Bed of Coals.
Then you hit Lava Font.
Then you hit a snare (Whirlwind).

Isn't that a little bit late to be snaring them? And is Whirlwind even a snare at that point, or are they running away?

Or do I have the order wrong?

Thanks!

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[SMS]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by r3dsk4r3
Are people still buying the emblems even though its not wintersday anymore?
It's not Wintersday yet. It will be in a couple of weeks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dbulger
where are the minos clustered? I use Elona Reach. Enter the mission, run down the hill, they'll swarm in.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis Crawford
snip That's right.. just try it. Meteor shower knocks them down at first, they'll try attacking again and whirlwind will knock them down again. That will hold them, the inferno/flame burst (pick one) + lava font + burning will finish them off.

mwpeck

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

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Awesome, that works beautifly, as long as I get the timing right(they stand up from a MS, take 1 step to try to run, get hit with whirlwind and inferno finishes them).........tried it on mino's.....the main problem I have is its hard to get them all on you at once. And even if I do, they seem to run sooner than the trolls, and I dont kill them all, theres usually about 3-4 left(mostly the ones that came in the latest). Any tips, or mods to the build you posted that could help with mino's?

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by - Tain -

Francis: For the Wintersday event, 3 orr emblems = 1 candy cane. They completely remove DP (pve only), and have sold up to 1k each. Assuming that recurs this year.

Stone Summit Badges and singed gargoyle skulls = 1 cane each last year if I recall correctly, but I don't think I could sell many of either for 240-300 gold a piece.

Besides, I doubt canes will stay at 1K each if they're available again this year.

I think the proof of how little I care about gold (or designer armor) is that most of my 400 cane stash remains in inventory ... Even as I farm. Odd paradox.

Hyprodimus Prime

Hyprodimus Prime

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Vancouver BC

Sorrow Masters

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Its like a PvE Promise nuker. very nice. (without the promise) When farming trolls there are usually 2 groups, the main in the middle courtyard and then the rest around a boss to the left and right. Do you wait for MS to recharge and go there too? or just zone and redue?

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[SMS]

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Zone + repeat. The boss won't die so easily, so the other groups are just 3 more trolls each... not worth waiting 60 + 30 seconds for MS to recharge.

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

I've been trying a variant on this idea, but it's not working for me at all ... but then, I didn't have the best of reflexes when I was a lot younger, and by that I mean when I played Space Invaders at a stand-up arcade console in a dormitory ...

Practice is definitely called for.

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[SMS]

R/

What's your variant? And if you want, I can come with you for a run to see if I can add any advice

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[SMS]

R/

New and improved... drop out Whirlwind and use Frozen Burst.
More damage, and it holds them better, since half the time I use Whirlwind they're either already pinned from Meteor Shower or not attacking.


And for mwpeck and any other people who don't have Factions, this build works just fine:
Glyph of Sacrifice, Meteor Shower, Mark of Rodgort, Lava Font, Frozen Burst, Flame Burst, Armor of Mist, Mist Form

Any questions or if you want to see it in action, PM me here or in-game... I'll get back to you ASAP.
Btw dont feel no pain, sorry for hijacking your thread

mwpeck

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by - Tain -
And for mwpeck and any other people who don't have Factions, this build works just fine:
Glyph of Sacrifice, Meteor Shower, Mark of Rodgort, Lava Font, Frozen Burst, Flame Burst, Armor of Mist, Mist Form Yup, me and Tain have talked a good bit in-game and this build works great.....you might need to do some cleanup, but it does work. The only thing is its got a pretty high energy usage.

fgarvin

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

The biggest pain is when those damn birds get in the way when you're trying to get to the cave.

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[SMS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fgarvin
The biggest pain is when those damn birds get in the way when you're trying to get to the cave. That's exactly what Armor of Mist is for Use it if there's anything in the way while you're getting to the cave. Don't bother with it when you're fighting, Mist Form does all the work there, but GETTING there it's perfect.

t3dw4rd0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Liars Cheats and Thieves [Liar]

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Ugh.... such a good build, but such crappy routes. Trolls don't drop anything good anymore. I got a gold sheild but it was awful. I'm sure there's a better place to use this...

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[SMS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
other tweaks i've used ....

brambles
EOE
pheonix ( not go so well lol )
metoer

hmmmm arcane echo metoer shower..... brb lol Hmmm, Brambles and EoE would add do it, but I think the casting time slows down the run overall and I wouldn't want to replace any of the skills on my bar with them. Same with Arc Echo. Meteor and Phoenix have longer cast times, wouldn't want to try them mid-fight. As it is, I think we have this as fast as it gets, at least for trolls. Speed boost, fast skill chain with fast cast spells with big damage. Very fast farm run, GG trolls... We need to find some new spots, and then we can find the best adaptation for that spot

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Added video =]

dr love

dr love

...is in denial

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hyperion

starcraft 2

P/Me

woot i tried these build(s) against trolls and minos, and its so much fun!!! i agree adding frozen burst is a good idea. the toughest part about teh troll run is making sure the birds dont eat you.

now i've killed trolls with monk, war and ele, but only the ele one still works.

Truthfull healer

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

Mo/

Where do you farm in the gates of Kryta mission, i keep dying all the time.