Pure Fire Ele Troll farm (under 15 second)

Crusheer

Crusheer

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

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Ill give it a try, now im farming ice imps in Marhans Grotto.

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqualung
I only have Prophecies, tested ur build, didn't work that great, so I did some changes:

1 - Mist Form
2 - Glyph of Elemetal Power
3 - Mark of Rodgort
4 - Meteor Shower
5 - Lava Font
6 - Frozen Burst
7 - Inferno
8 - Armor of Mist

Exit Droks, use the Armor of Mist after the first tree, just run straight to the cave. When you get there, the Armor of Mist will be over, so run inside and Aggro.

Cast Mist Form, then the spells from 2 - 7 the fast as you can. I'm sure it will work. Just make sure ALL the Trolls are near you, so all the spells will do their work. You're not having problems with the Trolls interrupting Meteor Shower?

fgarvin

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

@ Enko: The use of Mist Form prevents interruptions. Not to be an ass, but take the slightest bit of effort to look over the skills before asking questions.

AscalonWarrior

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSlayer
How do you stop the Zaishen Warriors from scattering? I tried it..they use bows first; you run over to them and they scatter

Edit: Nevermind...did the IW team instead. They do about 120 dmg then all keel over dead, burning etc.

Cos of their reduced mesmer armour, you only need Mist Form, Glyph of Sacrifice, Meteor SHower, Bed of Coals, Lava Frozen Burts, Inferno IWAY Trappers are way to go

Aqualung

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enko
You're not having problems with the Trolls interrupting Meteor Shower?
Actually, you need to get the timing, so try this instead:

1 - Mist Form
2 - Glyph of Elemetal Power
3 - Meteor Shower
4 - Lava Font
5 - Mark of Rodgort
6 - Frozen Burst
7 - Inferno
8 - Armor of Mist

Just make sure a second before they start attacking you, you cast Mist Form and start casting 2 - 7 the fastest possible.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fgarvin
@ Enko: The use of Mist Form prevents interruptions. Not to be an ass, but take the slightest bit of effort to look over the skills before asking questions. Yes, you can be interrupted while in Mist Form. You don't receive damage from Attacks, but the skill still works.

rigbya

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

england

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hey can i ask, whats the sympathetic visage used for in this situation?

sorry for noobish post*

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Crusheer

Crusheer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by rigbya
hey can i ask, whats the sympathetic visage used for in this situation?

sorry for noobish post* The trolls will loose their adrenaline - no interrupt.

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fgarvin
@ Enko: The use of Mist Form prevents interruptions. Not to be an ass, but take the slightest bit of effort to look over the skills before asking questions. maybe you're the one who needs to look at the skills. Mist Form prevents damage; you can still get interrupted.

Not to be an ass, but maybe you should take the slightest bit of effort to look over skills before sticking your own foot in your mouth.

Mist Form:
For 8...18 seconds, you cannot take or deal damage from attacks.

Levi Garett

Levi Garett

Old School Nub

Join Date: Jun 2005

ABQ, NM

Guildless

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

rigbya

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

england

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can anyone post a video of a pure prophecies only ele troll farming builkd with stats etc.

having real trouble at the moment.
tried using the original build from dont feel no pain. however i die everytime at the last minuete when they all got like 10hp left.

i havent done the 15 attrib quests maybe this is making it more dificult?

Aqualung

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeviGarrett
Killswitch Engage, right?
KsE ftw

Quote: Originally Posted by rigbya
can anyone post a video of a pure prophecies only ele troll farming builkd with stats etc.

having real trouble at the moment.
tried using the original build from dont feel no pain. however i die everytime at the last minuete when they all got like 10hp left.

i havent done the 15 attrib quests maybe this is making it more dificult? Try my build

Quote:
1 - Mist Form
2 - Glyph of Elemetal Power
3 - Meteor Shower
4 - Lava Font
5 - Mark of Rodgort
6 - Frozen Burst
7 - Inferno
8 - Armor of Mist

Just make sure a second before they start attacking you, you cast Mist Form and start casting 2 - 7 the fastest possible. It's very important to have 75~ Energy, and to use a Enchanting weapon.

rigbya

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

england

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wat are the attrib points u use and wat runes u do?

Crusheer

Crusheer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqualung
Try my build
[...build...]
It's very important to have 75~ Energy, and to use a Enchanting weapon. I tried it and it works! Well i have 69nrg and its really VERY close.....suggest to have 72 or more.


Thanks a lot ;-)

rigbya

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

england

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i dont have enough attrib points to get to 75 energy

Levi Garett

Levi Garett

Old School Nub

Join Date: Jun 2005

ABQ, NM

Guildless

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You really should do the 15 attrib quests. Both are very easy...I can do them with henchies.

THEN you should start to farm.

rigbya

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

england

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thanks for the help. one last thing, where abouts are 15 attrib quests found? i thiught i knew but now not sure,

and are there any requirements for these quests??

Crusheer

Crusheer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by rigbya
thanks for the help. one last thing, where abouts are 15 attrib quests found? i thiught i knew but now not sure,

and are there any requirements for these quests?? We know wiki, huh?

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Forgotten_Wisdom
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Hero's_Challenge

Flavius

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Pantheon of Shadows

A/Me

first off i want to say great job with the build... it's awsome and i've been using it like mad mkaing a lot of money... and it's just really easy to use... didn't know if it was posted but this build can be used on minos at elona reach as well... i use a little variant where i switch out flame djyn's haste for flameburst and take out another skill (forget which) for arcane echo.... i echo mistform let all the minos gather up on me then use the echoed mistform and bam through the skills... their dead and it's all good

lunaticmo1

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

AWBwwOUGAjc2w4WgLcH Templet For Trolls...
AWBwwOUGAjc2w4WwLwF Templet for Minos
Post on Front =)

Miyagullo

Miyagullo

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

SE England

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Will this work with a secondary ele or would the attributes not be high enough to do enough damage to kill them b4 they run?

Mr_Cynical

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Region of Chosen Kings [R.O.C.K]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miyagullo
Will this work with a secondary ele or would the attributes not be high enough to do enough damage to kill them b4 they run? Not in my experience - you need the elementalist runes for it to work. I tried doing this without the superior runes and it sucked.

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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This will be my last post in this thread - it's getting ridiculously frustrating to watch. The same questions come up again and again, and every time I have provided an answer that works 100% of the time, along with "I'll show you in-game if you have trouble with it."

None of the posted builds are faster or more consistent than these:

Trolls, Minos, and Undergrowth (Proph & Factions):
1. Armor of Mist
2. Mist Form [E]
3. Glyph of Sacrifice
4. Meteor Shower
5. Bed of Coals
6. Lava Font
7. Frozen Burst
8. Flame Burst

Trolls and Minos (Proph only):
1. Armor of Mist
2. Mist Form [E]
3. Glyph of Sacrifice
4. Meteor Shower
5. Mark of Rodgort
6. Lava Font
7. Frozen Burst
8. Flame Burst

Use Armor of Mist (1) to get to your farming destination quickly and safely. Once you have aggro'd all the trolls or minos in the area, or as many as you comfortable with, simply stop and hit 'C' followed by 2-8. If you don't aggro ALL the minos in elona, I recommend that you pull your minos off to the side before chaining the skills, so you don't get any healthy ones joining halfway through.


Note 1) Yes, I keep Armor of Mist for mino runs... the speed boost gets you down to the lake faster, and allows you to aggro a lot of minos before they actually start to follow (just like everything else, I can show you in-game if you don't understand).

Note 2) I know Flame Burst is slightly less damage than Inferno, but it more than makes up for it with the extended range. It is not uncommon for an enemy to get caught on something (usually just stuck behind one of its buddies), and the extra range on Flame Burst ensures that everything gets hit by that last damage spike. Nothing has ever lived because Flame Burst lacks that 10 more damage. Also, f you ever need to let out one or two more spells to finish an enemy, Flame Burst has half the recharge time of Inferno.

Note 3) This build kills in one simple skill chain. No, it's not quickly repeatable, but it doesn't need to be. The reason for that is simple... it may be fun killing the troll bosses, but it's a huge waste of time. Farming effectively is getting the most cash out of the time you put in. In the minute and a half you spend waiting for meteor shower to recharge so you can nuke the boss, I'm cleaning up after another bunch of 20 trolls.

Note 4) The ideal weapon for this is any staff with +20 energy (+10 base, +5>50 inscription, +5 insightful head) and a 20% enchant wrap. You don't need faster cast time, you don't need faster recharge, you don't need armor, you don't need to meet the requirement to do wand damage. There are a few weaponsmiths in NF who can make this for you for 5k + a few cheap materials, and the mods are cheap, too. Or, if you like greens, you can use the Fervorborn Staff or any green Ghostly Staff (Divine, Grim, Inspired, Everlasting).

Note 5) Yes, this can be done without using all superior runes, or without having all attribute points, or even without being Ele primary. Again, just like everything else, I'll help you out in-game if you're having problems.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by - Tain -
This will be my last post in this thread - it's getting ridiculously frustrating to watch. The same questions come up again and again, and every time I have provided an answer that works 100% of the time, along with "I'll show you in-game if you have trouble with it."

None of the posted builds are faster or more consistent than these:

Trolls, Minos, and Undergrowth (Proph & Factions):
1. Armor of Mist
2. Mist Form [E]
3. Glyph of Sacrifice
4. Meteor Shower
5. Bed of Coals
6. Lava Font
7. Frozen Burst
8. Flame Burst

Trolls and Minos (Proph only):
1. Armor of Mist
2. Mist Form [E]
3. Glyph of Sacrifice
4. Meteor Shower
5. Mark of Rodgort
6. Lava Font
7. Frozen Burst
8. Flame Burst

Use Armor of Mist (1) to get to your farming destination quickly and safely. Once you have aggro'd all the trolls or minos in the area, or as many as you comfortable with, simply stop and hit 'C' followed by 2-8. If you don't aggro ALL the minos in elona, I recommend that you pull your minos off to the side before chaining the skills, so you don't get any healthy ones joining halfway through.


Note 1) Yes, I keep Armor of Mist for mino runs... the speed boost gets you down to the lake faster, and allows you to aggro a lot of minos before they actually start to follow (just like everything else, I can show you in-game if you don't understand).

Note 2) I know Flame Burst is slightly less damage than Inferno, but it more than makes up for it with the extended range. It is not uncommon for an enemy to get caught on something (usually just stuck behind one of its buddies), and the extra range on Flame Burst ensures that everything gets hit by that last damage spike. Nothing has ever lived because Flame Burst lacks that 10 more damage. Also, f you ever need to let out one or two more spells to finish an enemy, Flame Burst has half the recharge time of Inferno.

Note 3) This build kills in one simple skill chain. No, it's not quickly repeatable, but it doesn't need to be. The reason for that is simple... it may be fun killing the troll bosses, but it's a huge waste of time. Farming effectively is getting the most cash out of the time you put in. In the minute and a half you spend waiting for meteor shower to recharge so you can nuke the boss, I'm cleaning up after another bunch of 20 trolls.

Note 4) The ideal weapon for this is any staff with +20 energy (+10 base, +5>50 inscription, +5 insightful head) and a 20% enchant wrap. You don't need faster cast time, you don't need faster recharge, you don't need armor, you don't need to meet the requirement to do wand damage. There are a few weaponsmiths in NF who can make this for you for 5k + a few cheap materials, and the mods are cheap, too. Or, if you like greens, you can use the Fervorborn Staff or any green Ghostly Staff (Divine, Grim, Inspired, Everlasting).

Note 5) Yes, this can be done without using all superior runes, or without having all attribute points, or even without being Ele primary. Again, just like everything else, I'll help you out in-game if you're having problems. gg lol, (posted on front now)

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Oh, and if you don't feel like reading back a bit, here's my Gates of Kryta build too:

1. Lava Font
2. Flame Burst
3. Rodgort's Invocation
4. Glyph of Sacrifice
5. Meteor Shower
6. Elemental Attunement [E]
7. Fire Attunement
8. Aura of Restoration

Enter GoK and start running. Off to the left is a fence, behind which is a hosue and everyone's favorite piggy, Oink. Do NOT talk to Oink... yes, he's an invincible tank, but this works better if you tank the aggro, and you won't be close to dying, anyway. Run around the left side of the house and you'll find a nice little path winding back around the house and down a hill. At the bottom of the hill is a single Hellhound snuffling around. Before aggroing, cast your three enchantments. Run down until you aggro the Hellhound - a group of Grasping Ghouls will pop up as well - and then run back halfway up the hill and wedge yourself against the wall on the right side (this helps later, if you have trouble with positioning I can show you in-game). Spam Lava Font and Flame Burst; as you kill them, more will spawn at the bottom of the hill, and some more will run in from the right side along with three Zombie Warlocks. Everything will die as they reach you, except for the Warlocks who will be bunched up, attempting to wand you from the bottom of the hill. If you positioned yourself against the wall correctly, they will be unable to "see" any corpses to animate. Use your Glyph of Sacrifice, Meteor Shower, and Rodgort's Invocation. Lots of dead undead... collect your drops and repeat.

Crusheer

Crusheer

Lion's Arch Merchant

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What's drop in GoK?

KennethD

KennethD

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

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I wonder that to, what in earth do they drop to make this farm profitable?

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Because of the quantity of kills, it's a nice dye spot. Also plenty of runes, and gold items - just because the weapons aren't max doesn't mean the mods aren't. It's a very fast run, and the cash piles are smaller but the numerous enemies make it at least as worthwhile as trolls/minos, if not more so. Plus, all the enemies there drop Decayed Orr Emblems, which have been used for every special event in Proph so far.

ephexx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

[AWoT]

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This build is AMAZING, I finally got all the skills needed for it, and i can own trolls, although they suck balls for drops, I wanted to try this build. I'll probably use it on other things, whatever I can think of..

BTW I couldn't kill whip buumbul, or w.e solo, took too long, too little energy...

John Cotica

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Warriors of Good Reason [WOGR]

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I'm currently using Tain's build and it's doing wonders /bow

I just would like to ask.. has anyone tried it to farm ettins? Any suggested tweaks?

MrSlayer

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

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I would guess it would work for ettins, but reaching them past the tengu would be...fun.

you could try echoing your Mist Form for a massive Ettin lure.

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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I'm sure it would work fine for ettins:

Armor of Mist up to the tengu, then re-cast Armor of Mist and cover it with Mist Form and Aura of Restoration (throw that in instead of Flame Burst or Frozen Burst, you don't need as much damage for ettins). Each tengu mes will shatter 1 enchant, leaving your Armor of Mist to run past them. Then round up all the ettins you can and cast your combo

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Fun new build

I was playing around with my ele (trying to collect some truffles), and I realized that Mist Form is completely overshadowed by Shadow Form in a fast one-sequence run like we've been doing... who cares if you're left with 50 hp, everything is already dead. Shadow Form protects from spells, allowing for a new range of farming locations, and also makes attacks miss rather than Mist Form's "don't take damage" - no more adrenaline building for those trolls, etc. Then, other spells from the Shadow Arts line can replace the other water spells used: Armor of Mist -> Dark Escape, Frozen Burst -> Caltrops.

Fire: 16 (12+3+1)
Energy Storage: 9 (8+1)
Shadow Arts: 10

Dark Escape
Shadow Form [E]
Glyph of Sacrifice
Meteor Shower
Bed of Coals
Lava Font
Caltrops
Flame Burst

Enjoy!

Ashe.

Ashe.

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Tales Of Glory[ePiC]

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Tain have you tried tombing yet with the assassin build? I don't know if it would work since you can't echo s/f but the damage is so much greater then the A/Me build you might be good....If you don't try it I will and I'll let you know.

eloogosciu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

TFGT

P/W

I have just a ONE question.Does this build still works due to the nerf few days ago?And where is the best place to farm (i had other build for trolls cave,but there is so LITTLE of them that its not worth to kill,back to town,kill etc.)
ps. that was two questions wasnt it? :|

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

works just the same, I have been working with pheinox too, it seems to be a good add in =]

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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my only complaint with phoenix is the slow cast time, not really worth it when you can spam 3 skills and finish everything off before phoenix casts.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

pheonix is only 2 secs now =], it works well as a finish with

Metoer shower - Bed of Coals - Lava font - Pheonix

= instant kill

- Tain -

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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nice, that cuts down a skill slot then. more possibilities now, especially for the E/A build

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miyagullo
Will this work with a secondary ele or would the attributes not be high enough to do enough damage to kill them b4 they run? I can kill them me/e, just trap
them behind the first pole to stop them from running away.