Thanks for killing HA, anet. Bye.
Alleji
As the thread title implies, I'm a former HA player and I'm leaving the game because of the recent changes anet has made: 6v6 and allowing heroes.
Now, I realize that anet is a business and they're doing what makes them the most money, but I fail to see how destroying HA would make you sell more copies of the game? Sure, compared to PvE player base, PvP is in a minority. Hardcore HA players are a further minority, but if 1% of the players quit the game and 0 additional players join, that's still a loss. That's 1% less sales on chapters 4, 5, 6, etc. (Unlike PvE players, all PvP players who want to keep playing must buy new expansions to remain competitive) And believe me, people had quit. Most of them before me. I don't even see half the people on my friendlist anymore, my guild all but died and I know other HA guilds that simply vanished because their entire roster packed up and left.
Just look at the HA forum under gladiator's arena. Look at the HA forum on gwonline. You'll see what I mean. You pretty much drove away an entire class of players for no gain whatsoever. GJ anet.
I might come back if HA is changed back to 8v8, provided I don't get too commited to WoW or d2 in the meantime.
Now, I realize that anet is a business and they're doing what makes them the most money, but I fail to see how destroying HA would make you sell more copies of the game? Sure, compared to PvE player base, PvP is in a minority. Hardcore HA players are a further minority, but if 1% of the players quit the game and 0 additional players join, that's still a loss. That's 1% less sales on chapters 4, 5, 6, etc. (Unlike PvE players, all PvP players who want to keep playing must buy new expansions to remain competitive) And believe me, people had quit. Most of them before me. I don't even see half the people on my friendlist anymore, my guild all but died and I know other HA guilds that simply vanished because their entire roster packed up and left.
Just look at the HA forum under gladiator's arena. Look at the HA forum on gwonline. You'll see what I mean. You pretty much drove away an entire class of players for no gain whatsoever. GJ anet.
I might come back if HA is changed back to 8v8, provided I don't get too commited to WoW or d2 in the meantime.
Carth`
Noo... don't go.... :/
Rhys ap Llysgwr
omg he is leaving!!!??? omg how will this game be fun now?
KamikazeChicken
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Originally Posted by Alleji
Look at the HA forum on gwonline.
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I think I remember Gaile saying Heroes would eventually be removed from HA, so that's a half-assed reason for leaving. Also, don't expect them to change it back to 8v8.
Have fun paying a monthly fee (WoW) or playing a dying game (D2).
dronex
PVE does not like heroes aswell < me thinks ( i personaly dont like them )
Sir Mad
To the OP: believe it or not but a few threads have been posted on this topic already.
When was that again? 2 months ago? 3 months ago? When it was changed.
So if it took you all this time to notice the party size then I guess your departure won't cause many "Restarting timer - no opposite team joined"
PS: is "d2" diablo? I didn't know they still have servers up
When was that again? 2 months ago? 3 months ago? When it was changed.
So if it took you all this time to notice the party size then I guess your departure won't cause many "Restarting timer - no opposite team joined"
PS: is "d2" diablo? I didn't know they still have servers up
Phaern Majes
I think 6v6 is fine, but but PvP is Player vs PLAYER. I mean all you have to do is bring an interrupt hero and you already have the ungodly advantage of interrupts that never miss. If I want to fight heroes I'll goto the Hero Battles. If I want to fight AI in general I'll just PvE. I agree heroes in HA has taken alot of the fun out of it. No I'm not one of those players who can never beat a hero way and wants to rant about it. But take the first alter map, countless times do I get put up against a hero team and a real team. Then the hero teams tells the other real team, gl in the halls, and just suicides on my team. Sure we kill them, but in that time the other real team can take the alter, setup defenses, and finish us off, as we are still recovering from the fight with heroway.
dudehere120
don't let the door hit you on the way out
Alleji
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don't let the door hit you on the way out
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The only reason I posted it in riverside is because anet doesn't read PvP forums.
Darkobra
Well even if they do read it in the wrong forum, are they honestly going to think "Some one that bought all three of our games has quit! We better change it back to 8v8 in case he asks for a REFUND!" So far, the only thing I see that's truly dead in HA is IWAY teams. With two new classes, there are many more build variations coming in and it's still possible to win there with skill.
Amity and Truth
So then it was a just a ghost that posted in your beloved Heroes Thread? *scratches head*
birdfoot
D2 dying? Outdated maybe, dying I'm not sure. Still looks pretty far from death to me though.
Cygnus_Zero
Sounds like the topic creator needs to stop crying and learn a new way to play the game. I'm pretty sure nothing is getting changed on the account of him leaving. So he either accepts it or finds another game to play. Not every single thing anet does everyone that plays the game is going to love. I'm so tired of everyone complaining about everything all the time. Ever notice that when you complain about a fundamental change to the game, it doesn't get reverted? So that should tell you that crying about it gets you nowhere, and it's time to move on with life.
A_Muppet
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Originally Posted by Alleji
Wasn't directed at all of you PvE nubshits
The only reason I posted it in riverside is because anet doesn't read PvP forums. |
bug_out
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Originally Posted by Alleji
Wasn't directed at all of you PvE nubshits
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The only reason I posted it in riverside is because anet doesn't read PvP forums. |
Aejorii
Tombs is a god damn trash pit.
You know, I used to be commited to getting a tiger but after a month of heroway I simply quit tombs.
No way in hell is the time spent there is worth that anymore because it's not even remotely fun.
Let all the damn PvE scrubs flame me now with their pitiful understanding of "PvP".
You know, I used to be commited to getting a tiger but after a month of heroway I simply quit tombs.
No way in hell is the time spent there is worth that anymore because it's not even remotely fun.
Let all the damn PvE scrubs flame me now with their pitiful understanding of "PvP".
Yichi
A lot of good pvp players are leaving this game. Not only due to game changes, but imbalanced skills as well. seems to be an occuring theme with this game lately.
gl with whatever game ya go to, and hopefully youll be back
gl with whatever game ya go to, and hopefully youll be back
Coridan
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Let all the damn PvE scrubs
Wasn't directed at all of you PvE nubshits . |
Hrm i am not gonna flame you or anything cuz its ALMOST sad to see you leave but not quite....But you and those like you are the direct cause of PVP vs PVE conflicts that fill so many of these forums...so i say to you.... GG
lyra_song
ugh....this thread is giving me a headache
Sven788
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Originally Posted by Alleji
As the thread title implies, I'm a former HA player and I'm leaving the game because of the recent changes anet has made: 6v6 and allowing heroes.
Now, I realize that anet is a business and they're doing what makes them the most money, but I fail to see how destroying HA would make you sell more copies of the game? Sure, compared to PvE player base, PvP is in a minority. Hardcore HA players are a further minority, but if 1% of the players quit the game and 0 additional players join, that's still a loss. That's 1% less sales on chapters 4, 5, 6, etc. (Unlike PvE players, all PvP players who want to keep playing must buy new expansions to remain competitive) And believe me, people had quit. Most of them before me. I don't even see half the people on my friendlist anymore, my guild all but died and I know other HA guilds that simply vanished because their entire roster packed up and left. Just look at the HA forum under gladiator's arena. Look at the HA forum on gwonline. You'll see what I mean. You pretty much drove away an entire class of players for no gain whatsoever. GJ anet. I might come back if HA is changed back to 8v8, provided I don't get too commited to WoW or d2 in the meantime. |
Thallandor
bye, can i have your stuff? kthxbye.
I MP I
If you go can I please have some stuff as well? pm me if you're feeling charitable.
Navaros
Only terrible players would lose to a Hero team in HA, and they deserve all the losses they get to Heroes hence have no legit basis to complain about Heroes in HA. Heroes in HA is the best thing to happen to HA since HA first came out. Anyone who complains about them really should practice exclusively in RA instead of complaining about Heroes in HA.
It is a valid point about 6vs6 being a terrible nerf, but that was months ago now.
It is a valid point about 6vs6 being a terrible nerf, but that was months ago now.
milan
boo..frickin hoo. Don't adapt, leave. Go already
Darkobra
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Originally Posted by Navaros
Only terrible players would lose to a Hero team in HA, and they deserve all the losses they get to Heroes hence have no legit basis to complain about Heroes in HA. Heroes in HA is the best thing to happen to HA since HA first came out. Anyone who complains about them really should practice exclusively in RA instead of complaining about Heroes in HA.
It is a valid point about 6vs6 being a terrible nerf, but that was months ago now. |
One minute you're saying they're terrible in HA, the next you're saying they're the best thing that's ever happened.
Navaros
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Originally Posted by Darkobra
One minute you're saying they're terrible in HA, the next you're saying they're the best thing that's ever happened.
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Heroes are plenty great for beating bad players, as they should be. They are indeed terrible vs. good players, also as they should be. Heroes in HA is a win/win situation.
Azadaleou
I'm not going to bash his "I'm leaving post" because I have some empathy on why he is leaving. Heroes have ruined GW period and have made the game into a anti social single player game when its suppose to had been a cooperative online game. Adding them into the game made gw go into reverse direction and most people don't see this problem because they themselves are anti social.
Anet has made a poor attempt with trying to merge the pve world with pvp. It will never happen since from the beginning they were basically two entirely different aspects of the game.
Anet has made a poor attempt with trying to merge the pve world with pvp. It will never happen since from the beginning they were basically two entirely different aspects of the game.
tomcruisejr
i heard some rumors that they are bringing back 8vs8 and they will delete HA maps and replace them with something new. so youll be back.
in the mean time, please enjoy WoW.
in the mean time, please enjoy WoW.
Loviatar
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i will say you are just plain wrong since the general community has been a cesspool since way before the heroes showed up.
people are using heroes BECAUSE the community is so elitest/antisocial/immature.
heroes are not the cause of the problem but are giving people a choice betweem dumb heroes or total jerk real people.
Enchanted Warrior
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Originally Posted by Aejorii
Tombs is a god damn trash pit.
You know, I used to be commited to getting a tiger but after a month of heroway I simply quit tombs. No way in hell is the time spent there is worth that anymore because it's not even remotely fun. Let all the damn PvE scrubs flame me now with their pitiful understanding of "PvP". |
EternalTempest
Each chapter, the game changes dramatically.
If you love the way it is now, it will evolve into something different.
If you hate it, it will be different and you may like it latter.
If the game is not longer fun, by all means, stop playing. Games are meant to be fun. Many others still fine with the game fun with HoH the way it is.
I do respect your decision, but disagree with you.
My feelings is Anet wants HoH to be fun and invite new players (to make it grow). Elitism, Rank X only, and static teams playing same builds don't welcome new players nicely. Makes sense that Anet will shake it up.
My definition of PvP - Random Arena, Team Arena, HoH, GvG, Skirmish, Alliance Battles, Hero Battles, and Fort Jade/Aspen. All evolve a human in some way directly fighting another human.
Why does this thread give me horrible case of dejavu?
If you love the way it is now, it will evolve into something different.
If you hate it, it will be different and you may like it latter.
If the game is not longer fun, by all means, stop playing. Games are meant to be fun. Many others still fine with the game fun with HoH the way it is.
I do respect your decision, but disagree with you.
My feelings is Anet wants HoH to be fun and invite new players (to make it grow). Elitism, Rank X only, and static teams playing same builds don't welcome new players nicely. Makes sense that Anet will shake it up.
My definition of PvP - Random Arena, Team Arena, HoH, GvG, Skirmish, Alliance Battles, Hero Battles, and Fort Jade/Aspen. All evolve a human in some way directly fighting another human.
Why does this thread give me horrible case of dejavu?
crimsonfilms
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Originally Posted by Alleji
As the thread title implies, I'm a former HA player and I'm leaving the game because of the recent changes anet has made: 6v6 and allowing heroes. blah bla blah
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Bhaaltazar
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Originally Posted by Alleji
Wasn't directed at all of you PvE nubshits
The only reason I posted it in riverside is because anet doesn't read PvP forums. |
Well I guess it will always be like that. We will always have the feeling nobody is listening to you..
dudehere120
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Wasn't directed at all of you PvE nubshits . |
GTFO.
Lord Oranos
Wow... the community really is a cesspool, why don't you just think what you want and not post trash about the op? He/She says something about ha and bam, everyone comes in bitching, go play the game, jesus. Nvm, I guess people are just out to feed their egos.
Bale_Shadowscar
I woz here flame fest '06.
*ahem*.
So you're leaving. Wow.
Does anyone here care? No.
Does Anet care? No.
Did it deserve its own topic? No.
Are you scaring Anet with idle threats of switching games? No.
Does Anet know that people don't like heroes in HA? Yes. Are they going to change it? Yes.
Are you getting over dramatic about a computer game? Yes.
*ahem*.
So you're leaving. Wow.
Does anyone here care? No.
Does Anet care? No.
Did it deserve its own topic? No.
Are you scaring Anet with idle threats of switching games? No.
Does Anet know that people don't like heroes in HA? Yes. Are they going to change it? Yes.
Are you getting over dramatic about a computer game? Yes.
Phaern Majes
*sigh* this should be closed, temperatures are reaching 1000 degrees....
Bale_Shadowscar
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Originally Posted by Lord Oranos
Wow... the community really is a cesspool, why don't you just think what you want and not post trash about the op? He/She says something about ha and bam, everyone comes in bitching, go play the game, jesus. Nvm, I guess people are just out to feed their egos.
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Horseman Of War
doesnt matter what size party you get- the PEOPLE are what ruined HoH. There is not a bigger bunch of elitist little bitches than right there in the Hall.
I think half the above posts prove my point.
I think half the above posts prove my point.
DFrost