Thanks for killing HA, anet. Bye.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

As the thread title implies, I'm a former HA player and I'm leaving the game because of the recent changes anet has made: 6v6 and allowing heroes.

Now, I realize that anet is a business and they're doing what makes them the most money, but I fail to see how destroying HA would make you sell more copies of the game? Sure, compared to PvE player base, PvP is in a minority. Hardcore HA players are a further minority, but if 1% of the players quit the game and 0 additional players join, that's still a loss. That's 1% less sales on chapters 4, 5, 6, etc. (Unlike PvE players, all PvP players who want to keep playing must buy new expansions to remain competitive) And believe me, people had quit. Most of them before me. I don't even see half the people on my friendlist anymore, my guild all but died and I know other HA guilds that simply vanished because their entire roster packed up and left.

Just look at the HA forum under gladiator's arena. Look at the HA forum on gwonline. You'll see what I mean. You pretty much drove away an entire class of players for no gain whatsoever. GJ anet.

I might come back if HA is changed back to 8v8, provided I don't get too commited to WoW or d2 in the meantime.

Carth`

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Noo... don't go.... :/

Rhys ap Llysgwr

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/Mo

omg he is leaving!!!??? omg how will this game be fun now?

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleji
Look at the HA forum on gwonline.
You made me giggle.

I think I remember Gaile saying Heroes would eventually be removed from HA, so that's a half-assed reason for leaving. Also, don't expect them to change it back to 8v8.

Have fun paying a monthly fee (WoW) or playing a dying game (D2).

dronex

dronex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

PVE does not like heroes aswell < me thinks ( i personaly dont like them )

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

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To the OP: believe it or not but a few threads have been posted on this topic already.

When was that again? 2 months ago? 3 months ago? When it was changed.

So if it took you all this time to notice the party size then I guess your departure won't cause many "Restarting timer - no opposite team joined"

PS: is "d2" diablo? I didn't know they still have servers up

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

I think 6v6 is fine, but but PvP is Player vs PLAYER. I mean all you have to do is bring an interrupt hero and you already have the ungodly advantage of interrupts that never miss. If I want to fight heroes I'll goto the Hero Battles. If I want to fight AI in general I'll just PvE. I agree heroes in HA has taken alot of the fun out of it. No I'm not one of those players who can never beat a hero way and wants to rant about it. But take the first alter map, countless times do I get put up against a hero team and a real team. Then the hero teams tells the other real team, gl in the halls, and just suicides on my team. Sure we kill them, but in that time the other real team can take the alter, setup defenses, and finish us off, as we are still recovering from the fight with heroway.

dudehere120

dudehere120

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

don't let the door hit you on the way out

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by dudehere120
don't let the door hit you on the way out
Wasn't directed at all of you PvE nubshits

The only reason I posted it in riverside is because anet doesn't read PvP forums.

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Well even if they do read it in the wrong forum, are they honestly going to think "Some one that bought all three of our games has quit! We better change it back to 8v8 in case he asks for a REFUND!" So far, the only thing I see that's truly dead in HA is IWAY teams. With two new classes, there are many more build variations coming in and it's still possible to win there with skill.

Amity and Truth

Amity and Truth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/N

So then it was a just a ghost that posted in your beloved Heroes Thread? *scratches head*

birdfoot

birdfoot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Singapore

Ordo Chaotika

W/Mo

D2 dying? Outdated maybe, dying I'm not sure. Still looks pretty far from death to me though.

Cygnus_Zero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

N/Me

Sounds like the topic creator needs to stop crying and learn a new way to play the game. I'm pretty sure nothing is getting changed on the account of him leaving. So he either accepts it or finds another game to play. Not every single thing anet does everyone that plays the game is going to love. I'm so tired of everyone complaining about everything all the time. Ever notice that when you complain about a fundamental change to the game, it doesn't get reverted? So that should tell you that crying about it gets you nowhere, and it's time to move on with life.

A_Muppet

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleji
Wasn't directed at all of you PvE nubshits

The only reason I posted it in riverside is because anet doesn't read PvP forums.
Didn't you leave?

bug_out

bug_out

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleji
Wasn't directed at all of you PvE nubshits
Ah, I see you have read "How to make Friends and Influence People"

Quote:
The only reason I posted it in riverside is because anet doesn't read PvP forums.
If that were truly the case, all of my favorite classes wouldn't routinely get smacked with the nerf bat.

Aejorii

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

SF, CA

W/

Tombs is a god damn trash pit.
You know, I used to be commited to getting a tiger but after a month of heroway I simply quit tombs.

No way in hell is the time spent there is worth that anymore because it's not even remotely fun.

Let all the damn PvE scrubs flame me now with their pitiful understanding of "PvP".

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

A lot of good pvp players are leaving this game. Not only due to game changes, but imbalanced skills as well. seems to be an occuring theme with this game lately.

gl with whatever game ya go to, and hopefully youll be back

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aejorii
Let all the damn PvE scrubs
Wasn't directed at all of you PvE nubshits .

Hrm i am not gonna flame you or anything cuz its ALMOST sad to see you leave but not quite....But you and those like you are the direct cause of PVP vs PVE conflicts that fill so many of these forums...so i say to you.... GG

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

ugh....this thread is giving me a headache

Sven788

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Die or Leave Plz

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleji
As the thread title implies, I'm a former HA player and I'm leaving the game because of the recent changes anet has made: 6v6 and allowing heroes.

Now, I realize that anet is a business and they're doing what makes them the most money, but I fail to see how destroying HA would make you sell more copies of the game? Sure, compared to PvE player base, PvP is in a minority. Hardcore HA players are a further minority, but if 1% of the players quit the game and 0 additional players join, that's still a loss. That's 1% less sales on chapters 4, 5, 6, etc. (Unlike PvE players, all PvP players who want to keep playing must buy new expansions to remain competitive) And believe me, people had quit. Most of them before me. I don't even see half the people on my friendlist anymore, my guild all but died and I know other HA guilds that simply vanished because their entire roster packed up and left.

Just look at the HA forum under gladiator's arena. Look at the HA forum on gwonline. You'll see what I mean. You pretty much drove away an entire class of players for no gain whatsoever. GJ anet.

I might come back if HA is changed back to 8v8, provided I don't get too commited to WoW or d2 in the meantime.
Yo what is bothering you? Stop RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing whining like a freaking baby. Stop whining about heroway if your that hardcore Ha player you pwn them easily. Noobie we don't care if you leave.

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

bye, can i have your stuff? kthxbye.

I MP I

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

If you go can I please have some stuff as well? pm me if you're feeling charitable.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Only terrible players would lose to a Hero team in HA, and they deserve all the losses they get to Heroes hence have no legit basis to complain about Heroes in HA. Heroes in HA is the best thing to happen to HA since HA first came out. Anyone who complains about them really should practice exclusively in RA instead of complaining about Heroes in HA.

It is a valid point about 6vs6 being a terrible nerf, but that was months ago now.

milan

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

BONE

N/

boo..frickin hoo. Don't adapt, leave. Go already

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
Only terrible players would lose to a Hero team in HA, and they deserve all the losses they get to Heroes hence have no legit basis to complain about Heroes in HA. Heroes in HA is the best thing to happen to HA since HA first came out. Anyone who complains about them really should practice exclusively in RA instead of complaining about Heroes in HA.

It is a valid point about 6vs6 being a terrible nerf, but that was months ago now.

One minute you're saying they're terrible in HA, the next you're saying they're the best thing that's ever happened.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkobra
One minute you're saying they're terrible in HA, the next you're saying they're the best thing that's ever happened.
They are the best thing that ever happened because one doesn't have to stand around for 3+ hours waiting for a R9+ PUG to form only for it to then lose 3 maps in and then disband. Instead, one can instantly make an Heroway party and perhaps win the first 3 maps.

Heroes are plenty great for beating bad players, as they should be. They are indeed terrible vs. good players, also as they should be. Heroes in HA is a win/win situation.

Azadaleou

Azadaleou

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Ohio

A/W

I'm not going to bash his "I'm leaving post" because I have some empathy on why he is leaving. Heroes have ruined GW period and have made the game into a anti social single player game when its suppose to had been a cooperative online game. Adding them into the game made gw go into reverse direction and most people don't see this problem because they themselves are anti social.

Anet has made a poor attempt with trying to merge the pve world with pvp. It will never happen since from the beginning they were basically two entirely different aspects of the game.

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

i heard some rumors that they are bringing back 8vs8 and they will delete HA maps and replace them with something new. so youll be back.

in the mean time, please enjoy WoW.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azadaleou
I'm not going to bash his "I'm leaving post" because I have some empathy on why he is leaving. Heroes have ruined GW period and have made the game into a anti social single player game when its suppose to had been a cooperative online game. Adding them into the game made gw go into reverse direction and most people don't see this problem because they themselves are anti social.

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since you are obviously a very new player or have the wonderful luck not to get into all those disaster, jerk PUGs people have been posting about since day25 or so i will not simply say BS.

i will say you are just plain wrong since the general community has been a cesspool since way before the heroes showed up.

people are using heroes BECAUSE the community is so elitest/antisocial/immature.

heroes are not the cause of the problem but are giving people a choice betweem dumb heroes or total jerk real people.

Enchanted Warrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aejorii
Tombs is a god damn trash pit.
You know, I used to be commited to getting a tiger but after a month of heroway I simply quit tombs.

No way in hell is the time spent there is worth that anymore because it's not even remotely fun.

Let all the damn PvE scrubs flame me now with their pitiful understanding of "PvP".
Another self ordained uber feeb thinking pvpr's are elite.. LOL

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

Each chapter, the game changes dramatically.
If you love the way it is now, it will evolve into something different.
If you hate it, it will be different and you may like it latter.

If the game is not longer fun, by all means, stop playing. Games are meant to be fun. Many others still fine with the game fun with HoH the way it is.

I do respect your decision, but disagree with you.

My feelings is Anet wants HoH to be fun and invite new players (to make it grow). Elitism, Rank X only, and static teams playing same builds don't welcome new players nicely. Makes sense that Anet will shake it up.

My definition of PvP - Random Arena, Team Arena, HoH, GvG, Skirmish, Alliance Battles, Hero Battles, and Fort Jade/Aspen. All evolve a human in some way directly fighting another human.

Why does this thread give me horrible case of dejavu?

crimsonfilms

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleji
As the thread title implies, I'm a former HA player and I'm leaving the game because of the recent changes anet has made: 6v6 and allowing heroes. blah bla blah
You assume someone cares about what you do in life.

Bhaaltazar

Bhaaltazar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Forgotten Myth

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleji
Wasn't directed at all of you PvE nubshits

The only reason I posted it in riverside is because anet doesn't read PvP forums.
As hardcore PvEer i would say the same.. My opinion is that Anet reads more PvP forums since GW is PvP oriented game silly me

Well I guess it will always be like that. We will always have the feeling nobody is listening to you..

dudehere120

dudehere120

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Wasn't directed at all of you PvE nubshits .
i think you're doing a little too much of this:

GTFO.

Lord Oranos

Lord Oranos

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fort Aspenwood

Wow... the community really is a cesspool, why don't you just think what you want and not post trash about the op? He/She says something about ha and bam, everyone comes in bitching, go play the game, jesus. Nvm, I guess people are just out to feed their egos.

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

I woz here flame fest '06.

*ahem*.
So you're leaving. Wow.
Does anyone here care? No.
Does Anet care? No.
Did it deserve its own topic? No.
Are you scaring Anet with idle threats of switching games? No.
Does Anet know that people don't like heroes in HA? Yes. Are they going to change it? Yes.
Are you getting over dramatic about a computer game? Yes.

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

*sigh* this should be closed, temperatures are reaching 1000 degrees....

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Oranos
Wow... the community really is a cesspool, why don't you just think what you want and not post trash about the op? He/She says something about ha and bam, everyone comes in bitching, go play the game, jesus. Nvm, I guess people are just out to feed their egos.
The topic of Heroes in HA has been discussed to death. This is just a cry for attention from the OP, which the community is giving to him.

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

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doesnt matter what size party you get- the PEOPLE are what ruined HoH. There is not a bigger bunch of elitist little bitches than right there in the Hall.

I think half the above posts prove my point.

DFrost

DFrost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ultima Thule

Legacy of Echovald [Echo]

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Aww.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca5k3ZXS8Us