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zelira

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jan 2006

Me/

20 Dec 2006 at 22:02 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cjlr

Great! But a tad late.

I stayed up all night just to get five halloween hats this past year. I went through painstaking farming (there wasn't much, but it hurt) to get six dragon masks.

But hey. Improvements are improvements.

Well, think of it this way. You can get some sleep this Wintersday.

I did the same waking up every 3 hours to switch characters and not going out on Halloween to get both the pumpkin helms and witches hat. I don't ever want to do that again. Dragon masks? I did those quests about 20 times. Be kinda nice to do them five times and cover all my characters, my cousin's characters and my guildies too.

ForgeWhelp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

TGW

N/Mo

20 Dec 2006 at 22:03 - 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabrial heart

wait..... it's nice and all that you can reproduce the hat, but what? everytime you want the hat you have to go back to this guy to get another one? how is that better then just putting it on a mule? one mule can store every hat they've had so far for about 5 chars, i don't get how this helps at all?? maybe they aren't related?

Well this replaces needing to waste a character for mule hat use....

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

20 Dec 2006 at 22:03 - 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

Gaile is so ironic.

Much like having all hats accessable to all characters easily, right?

None of my characters will ever have last year's Grenth's horns, since i was busy grabbing Yule hats.

You cant duplicate what you were'nt there to get.

I'm pessimistic, but come on, look on the brighter side of things for THIS occasion at least~~

*tapes mistletoe on Zinger's head*

:3

Thermoblaze

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Croatia

New Dragons[NDR]

Mo/

20 Dec 2006 at 22:03 - 44

Guys this hat copiers is only at event or the whole time during the event and after the event?

Sasuke The Betrayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Angeles

Pink Pearl

Mo/Me

20 Dec 2006 at 22:05 - 45

its a PERMENANT feature. Go look over the comments

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

20 Dec 2006 at 22:05 - 46

Was this the storage that was talked about for holiday hats? That we can delete any copies of the hats we have and only need one of each for every character to use?

viper008

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

20 Dec 2006 at 22:05 - 47

Talking about expect the unexpected from Anet, and this will be totaly awesome. This will makes life so much easier to enjoy the events even more instead of rushing to get all our toons there hats.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

20 Dec 2006 at 22:05 - 48

It's a permanent change.

Wow I got jumpowned.

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

20 Dec 2006 at 22:07 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaane

I hate flaming, but do you ever post anything positive? Because I've never see it.

I'm naturally pessimistic. I can't help it. I'm just a bit annoyed when Gaile Grey asserts something which is somewhat incorrect.

I'll use the Hat NPC to open up room in my storage. But there's not much reason for me to wear a hat anyways...function over form, baby.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

20 Dec 2006 at 22:08 - 50

Dang, now I wish I would've bought Nightfall when it first came out, so all my characters would have witches hats...

Awesome change, though!

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

20 Dec 2006 at 22:09 - 51

Awesome stuff. Thanks Anet

ForgeWhelp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

TGW

N/Mo

20 Dec 2006 at 22:10 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esprit

Was this the storage that was talked about for holiday hats? That we can delete any copies of the hats we have and only need one of each for every character to use?

Once you show the hat to the hat guy you could delete all of them and just buy a new one when you are in the mood for that hat for any char.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

20 Dec 2006 at 22:11 - 53

I welcome this if it indeed "remembers" what hats you have instead of just "copies" them.

I only get hats for 1 character anyway, so If I can just show them to this guy then delete them for more space...more power to this update.

This has been something Runescape has done right for 2 years. There are NPCs that will replace lost holiday items in that game.

Niiamelyn

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

New Jersey

Funloving Gamers [FLG]

R/

20 Dec 2006 at 22:13 - 54

Oh this REALLY makes my day... I honestly have not been so psyched about a new update before...

I have been holding on to one of my characters because she is the ONLY one to have gotten the Horns of Grenth last year... (oh yeah and she's almost up for her mini pet)... now I can finally get them for my primary character, and I can re-roll this one (though lol, now watch me not be able to delete her now --- after copying the hat of course --- for some sentimental reason)

Thanks ANet!
*anxiously awaiting Winterdays and almost glad is hasn't started [shhhhh, just kidding] cos I've been at work and couldn't play anyway*

gabrial heart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Las Vegas

Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]

Mo/Me

20 Dec 2006 at 22:14 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForgeWhelp

Well this replaces needing to waste a character for mule hat use....

Man, dont get me wrong, it's a cool idea but, whats with the aversion to added storage? How about this (although it's way to late for suggestions now) they could have just put a hat tab that once you put in a hat any character could pull it out and wear it. and no, 10 gold isn't anything at all, but why add it? they coulda made the storage feature cost like 1,2 or even 3 plat and it woulda been fine with me. I dunno it feels like they are adding insult to injury imo... now if i want to wear a hat at random i have to travel to la or kam, pay 10 g plus whatever to get it dyed how i had it (like 5k or more for black) or log out and swap it off a mule.... hmmm, the latter still feels like the smarter chioce.

Yeah i'm really happy that they are doing something and adding features for sure, but it's really starting to feel like a screwy way of doing it. Although i could be reading all this wrong too... Please don't flame me *runs off to hide*

Mpidemie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Europe/Germany

20 Dec 2006 at 22:15 - 56

I love this new information

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

20 Dec 2006 at 22:18 - 57

I've said it before and I'll say it again. It would be great to have more storage. But you people have to realize it's not as simple as just changing a number in the line of coding and presto you get more storage.

Thermoblaze

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Croatia

New Dragons[NDR]

Mo/

20 Dec 2006 at 22:21 - 58

And i forgot to say.Well done Anet

gabrial heart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Las Vegas

Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]

Mo/Me

20 Dec 2006 at 22:22 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ernada

I've said it before and I'll say it again. It would be great to have more storage. But you people have to realize it's not as simple as just changing a number in the line of coding and presto you get more storage.

I'm not sure how any of us would know which was easier, coding a new npc or coding 10, 15, 20, hell 1000 hat slots to storage... Perhaps the npc was easier *shrug*

fatmouse

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

20 Dec 2006 at 22:23 - 60

So bottom line, this does nothing to help storage. Can't say I'm surprised.

When I hear hat storage I think of something wear I don't need to dedicate 4+ bag spaces to store different +1 attribute head pieces.

Let's face it nobody is going to pay 10g + dye every time they want to wear a hat, at best it wont do anything, more likely it will just mean people have got even more crap to store since they'll have seasonal hats on more characters.

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

20 Dec 2006 at 22:25 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabrial heart

Yeah i'm really happy that they are doing something and adding features for sure, but it's really starting to feel like a screwy way of doing it. Although i could be reading all this wrong too... Please don't flame me *runs off to hide*

No, you are not alone. I like this improvement, nevertheless it is really clumsy.

Now you have only to keep one copy of each hat and copy then as needed.

But does this not show ANet that their storage shortage and stuff drives them to such workarounds?

(They should also add an NPC that puts Insignia slots on older Prophecies and Factions armors in Kamadan. And allows you to switch the +1 whatever modifier of the helmet.)

ShadowYoda

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Zero Targets Left [ZTL]

20 Dec 2006 at 22:26 - 62

w00t w00t w00t

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

20 Dec 2006 at 22:27 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctarl

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Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

20 Dec 2006 at 22:28 - 64

Yay Hat Storage!

I have one question about HA though; It's still the case that henchies get added to your team in the next round if the humans drop out, right?

What happens if I have a 6 human team and 3 drop out? do I only get 2 henchies to replace them?

Cygnus_Zero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

N/Me

20 Dec 2006 at 22:31 - 65

Now if they could only start an event on time.

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

20 Dec 2006 at 22:32 - 66

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bale_Shadowscar

Yay Hat Storage!

I have one question about HA though; It's still the case that henchies get added to your team in the next round if the humans drop out, right?

What happens if I have a 6 human team and 3 drop out? do I only get 2 henchies to replace them?

My guess:
the new upcoming reconnects feature will list them as being AFK and they will be sitting ducks for 10 minutes. If they leave after the first round of HA but before starting the second, I can only speculate that they will be replaced by NPC's...

aubee

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

20 Dec 2006 at 22:37 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatmouse

So bottom line, this does nothing to help storage. Can't say I'm surprised.

When I hear hat storage I think of something wear I don't need to dedicate 4+ bag spaces to store different +1 attribute head pieces.

Let's face it nobody is going to pay 10g + dye every time they want to wear a hat, at best it wont do anything, more likely it will just mean people have got even more crap to store since they'll have seasonal hats on more characters.

Of course it helps storage. If you are storing holiday hats. Which practically everyone is. Now if you have 5 hats for 7 characters for a total of 35 occupied storage slots, you can use the hat NPC to free up 30 slots by only keeping the 5 on one character. Or if, as some have stated, you can just delete them all and go the the hat guy when you want to wear one you can free up all 35 slots.

As a bonus, if you missed a hat you wanted for one of your characters, now they can have it. Without using any storage.

If it's what it appears to be, I give this change a thumbs up. Thanks, ANet!

Achilles Antony

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Hangar 18

20 Dec 2006 at 22:40 - 68

Well, the hat storage sounds ok... I just wish I could get a few of the hats I missed. I wasn't able to get the dragon or tengu hats cuz I got Factions rather late in the summer, simply because I was busy with work and could never find the time to go out and get it. Plus I was waiting for it to go on sale... I'm cheap. :P

Then, I bought Nightfall a day too late to get the wizard's/witches hat due to my being immobile due to surgery...

Oh well.

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

20 Dec 2006 at 22:40 - 69

Im guessing this hasnt been implemented yet?Im guessing wintersday will come very soon?lol im so anxious.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

20 Dec 2006 at 22:43 - 70

Aubee has made some very good points. The hat NPC actually saves you a lot more room in the long run. Think about it. There WILL be future events which will give you more and more hats. This is actually a very smart way to save space without actually adding more storage AND it saves some stress on the server.

Seriously think about it.

wattsja

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

LoUiSiAna

BoneHorror Brigade

N/

20 Dec 2006 at 22:44 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cygnus_Zero

Now if they could only start an event on time.

If I may quote from the Guildwars.com website ...

"The Wintersday event begins on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 and runs for 13 days, with the grand finale taking place on Monday, January 1, 2007."

Maybe it's me, but I don't see a time listed for the starting of this event. Given that they start all of the events based on THEIR local time (PST) they still have about 9 hours to meet the Wednesday deadline.

How can they be late if a time was not listed and the day listed isn't over for the local timezone?

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

20 Dec 2006 at 22:45 - 72

Well first I can say thank you A.net, interesting new feature.

But it doesn't help me, I only have hats for my Primary character, so basically I save no space at all.

Will be nice to share hats with my other characters, but I don't see myself using that feature in the near future.

Thanks anyhow A.net.

Swinging Fists

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

20 Dec 2006 at 22:46 - 73

I haven't read everything in this thread, but I don't see this as so much something to help with storage as it is to allow people to not have to try to get hats on all characters by racing between districts and having to show up at each appearance.

Havre Fras

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/Me

20 Dec 2006 at 22:49 - 74

At least now I can give my new chars the Yule Cap and Horns, as well as the mask!

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

20 Dec 2006 at 22:51 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabrial heart

I'm not sure how any of us would know which was easier, coding a new npc or coding 10, 15, 20, hell 1000 hat slots to storage... Perhaps the npc was easier *shrug*

Don't know about if this is easier, but it can probably be stored in less space. Keeping track of a new storage slots, especially if it allowed stacks, might have taken some space to impliment. The way it sounds like they've done it could be held in a single value per account holding some flags. If you're interested in the tech side of how it might be done, there's a good article explaining enum flags here.

english storm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

20 Dec 2006 at 23:01 - 76

OMG why are people still moaning? Use your brains for once show your hats to the guy then you can delete them! All that space saved, i got atleast 3 hats on all my characters thats 24 (3x8) storage slots saved

And nobody can moan about losing runes and dyes, dyes are super cheap nowadays apart from the black which frankly you would have to be out your mind to use on a 0AL festival hat lol

Great work Anet your really on the ball lately all these great additions are spoiling me

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

20 Dec 2006 at 23:03 - 77

Copying hats is awesome.

Nerfing Heroes out of HA is ridiculous. No reason Anet should be again catering to horrible players and yet again drastically nerfing HA just for their sake just because they can't beat Hero teams.

Our Lady Of Sorrow

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Guild Name With A [Tag]

N/Mo

20 Dec 2006 at 23:09 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navaros

Copying hats is awesome.

Nerfing Heroes out of HA is ridiculous. No reason Anet should be again catering to horrible players and yet again drastically nerfing HA just for their sake just because they can't beat Hero teams.

its not because we cant beat them, its because lamers like you (guessing because you are b****ing) play it 24/7 and its not fun! we own them all the time and get bored.. now by limiting there should be less metagame and more thought out builds then 4 fire eles spamming

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

20 Dec 2006 at 23:09 - 79

I have one character, my party-going ranger, that has all hats. The rest may have a couple at best. Now, I can share the love as needed.

This is better than a hat storage which would, over time, need to be changed/increased. We will also have the added bonus of our new kids having full hat accessibility.

This is good.

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

20 Dec 2006 at 23:10 - 80

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Symeon

More news: Heroes' Ascent

There will be a limit of 2 heroes/henchmen in a team in HA at any given time.

That still doesn't stop my friend and I's team of 4 heroes and 2 real players