Party Search: Additional filtering options - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

greyf0x_f0x

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK

DVD Forums [DVDF]

Mo/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 02:11 - 1

At Gaile's request, I'd like to suggest an update to the (amazing!) new party search window.

Right now it's spiffy enough, but simply giving us the ability to filter by "purpose" would make finding parties and people much easier.

The easiest way I can think of, would be to simply have a number of checkboxes for each of the "purpose" types (Mission, Trade, Quest, Hunting etc). This would look very similar to the chat window we all know and love. If you don't want to see all the trade requests, simply uncheck it from the party search selection, if you are only looking for mission parties, deselect everything else. It seems a simple enough addition, and should make our lives that little bit easier in busy areas

mwpeck

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

W/

21 Dec 2006 at 02:14 - 2

Gah, you beat me to it....I was too side-tracked while making my post.....PS: I was one of the ones(if not the only one) asking her about it.

That being said....

/signed

greyf0x_f0x

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK

DVD Forums [DVDF]

Mo/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 02:15 - 3

hehe :P great minds think alike eh?

Dimitri_Stucoff

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 02:41 - 4

Agreed. Already seeing some rather immature parties popping up and it would be nice to be able to filter them out. Also, it seems people are using this to sell things... be nice to filter them out too.

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 02:43 - 5

/signed I actually like the selling functionality as well, but it would definitely be best to be able to filter for what you wanted.

Alya

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European servers

RTFM

21 Dec 2006 at 02:45 - 6

/totally signed for filtering / search / sorting option

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 02:50 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimitri_Stucoff

Also, it seems people are using this to sell things...

Well you know, if you'd pay attention to the fact that it says "Trade" on there...

/signed

The ability to filter out the categories you aren't interested in would be much appreciated.

azathothx

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Cork, Ireland

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

R/P

21 Dec 2006 at 03:04 - 8

/signed. it was the first thing i did when i opened the screen. i tried to click the title bar to sort the columns and was rewarded with nothing

so yes, sorting would be wonderful, or even better, trade and 'missions and quests' on their own tabs. this would simplify things greatly.

TheGuildWarsPenguin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Los Angeles, California

Picnic Pioneers

E/

21 Dec 2006 at 03:20 - 9

/signed, but wouldn't people use another sorting option to sell things then?
Like "WTS" used to be allowed in all chat, but now it is automatically moved to trade chat.

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

21 Dec 2006 at 03:25 - 10

/signed

filter is nice and tabs would be good as said before. If they make a trade tab have it select "Sale" and "Buy" instead of "trade"

riatha_hawke

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Washington state

R/Mo

21 Dec 2006 at 03:39 - 11

Agreed.

Some way of showing guild/alliance members would also be handy.

Pale-Dim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

Field Of Dreams

E/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 03:41 - 12

/sign also. When i first heard of the new party menu i was excited to try it out.. only to see it filled with TRADES. I thought it was suppose to be to help you organize a party. I suggest if you are going to make another way for people to spam trades then make a seperate menu for it. Making parties is for making parties not for trading.

Adding a filter to this would only Bandaid the problem. Why not just make a seperate menu for trading and keep things a little better organized then making trades and parties into the same area.

greyf0x_f0x

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK

DVD Forums [DVDF]

Mo/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 03:54 - 13

Already, the major trade centres are saturated with WTS/WTB "Parties". The lazy traders are already using "mission" as their purpose.

As TheGuildWarsPenguin's suggests, even if we get a means to filter parties, I suspect traders will use other "purpose" selections to get their wares to a wider audience.

In general, I suspect this will only be an issue in the large trading centres, I doubt it will affect most missions and outposts. However, it is somewhat annoying that the large bustling hearts of each continent will be a mess of trades, instead of a busy central point where players can quickly team up with fellow quest goers, missionaries and huntsmen. I think to get around this problem, you need to give traders a reason to use their trade channel, instead of the "mission", "quest" or "hunting" settings.

One simple example, would be to grant traders additional length to their descriptions. Currently the description field is limited to 31 characters (roughly a quarter of the length of the 120 we get in the chat window). How about you give traders 250 characters worth of space in their descriptions, whilst keeping quests and missions to 31. This way, traders would have a use for their selection (You could fit advertisments for at least 5-10 items in 250 characters) whilst keeping the filtered party types cleaner.

raven214

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

R/

21 Dec 2006 at 04:00 - 14

Love this new sytem!

/signed for some sort of filter/sort ability

Thx ANet!!

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 04:31 - 15

I dare anyone to come up with anything to say against this. I dare you.

And signed.

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

21 Dec 2006 at 04:45 - 16

/signed for more tabs and sorting/filtering function and increased character description.

rong626

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

hell

Woot

P/W

21 Dec 2006 at 04:46 - 17

People are using the party search system to sell stuff...

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

21 Dec 2006 at 04:49 - 18

/Signed.

I was going to suggest this very thing.
Sort by trade or mission or whatever... Even if its just a column header sort toggle. Once that is done you have a fantastic substitute for auction house without the Blizzard lawsuits...

Also anyone hear yet if the festive hat guy will remain after holiday? If so I can get rid of some hats in storage...

HKSdivision

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

21 Dec 2006 at 05:02 - 19

/signed

My friend pointed out to me a "WTS your mother" in the party window and that was pretty stupid along with all the other non-sense things that people are using it for. A filter would be nice so I don't have to read these idiotic things.

Dawnspire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/N

21 Dec 2006 at 05:15 - 20

YES /sign It was my first thought on seeing wtb/wts and assorted noob descriptions, also...

make the search button WHITE TEXT, THE YELLOW IS BURNING MY EYES!!!

greyf0x_f0x

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK

DVD Forums [DVDF]

Mo/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 05:26 - 21

This is straying a little from the simple need for a filter, and is probably out of the scope of the party search functionality. Buuuuut, I can dream :P

One possible way to expand the trade system, would be to firstly make seperate "Trade: WTB", "Trade: WTS" options. But secondly, give sellers the option to drag the items they are trading into their description. Then, buyers could expand the trade parties and be able to browse the items on sale. Here's a mocked up screen of how such a system might work:

Current Party Search:

How my idea might look:

HKSdivision

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

21 Dec 2006 at 05:29 - 22

^ Interesting, I like that idea greyf0x_f0x

EDIT: I forgot to /sign!

Aki Soyokaze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Vancouver

21 Dec 2006 at 05:32 - 23

/signed

Heh, I came here to make the same suggestion, but I guess ya beat me to it.

I think that allowing a sort or filter ability would increase functionality of this search system. It would allow people to find what they're looking for even faster and with greater ease than they can now.

mwpeck

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

W/

21 Dec 2006 at 05:36 - 24

greyf0x_f0x, if anet did that, I would have to consider this feature the single best feature since the release of GW. :P

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

21 Dec 2006 at 06:20 - 25

I like this idea. One suggestion I'd like to make is for people to be able to drag the quests they have into the menu as well... it'd save some typing at least.

Maybe even a guild recruiting or looking for guild options would be doable in the future.

EDIT: Another suggestion would be LF or NLF such and such classes.

EDIT2: Maybe the mission option should be disable in non-mission towns or in mission towns were you don't have access to said mission yet (and you shouldn't be able to see the mission ones if the later is the case for you).

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

21 Dec 2006 at 06:24 - 26

/Signed for greyf0x_f0x's idea in post #21 hopefully as long as it doesnt take up too much bandwidth/server load for the items display.

Gargle Blaster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

21 Dec 2006 at 06:30 - 27

/signed -- add some way to sort please.

Anarkii

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

-None-

R/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 06:36 - 28

/signed for greyf0x_f0x's idea

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallandor

/Signed for greyf0x_f0x's idea in post #21 hopefully as long as it doesnt take up too much bandwidth/server load for the items display.

It shouldn't increase server load. The details of all the items and such are stored on your local machine, and the network should only be sending you the unique-id of the item to be displayed, I suppose.

broodijzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

void

Mo/

21 Dec 2006 at 07:12 - 29

/signed
shouldn't be too hard, though I can smell the WTS spam going to the mission groups ;(

Kodoku67

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

21 Dec 2006 at 07:34 - 30

/signed

I was just in Kamadan and noticed there were people making parties for recruitment and such under the quests and missions. Might want to add that too.

Filter would be a perfect addition to an already great thing. It was just messy looking through all of the groups at once with descriptions like "looking for girlfriend" and "WTS Perfect Mods" together at once.

-Kod

azathothx

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Cork, Ireland

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

R/P

21 Dec 2006 at 09:19 - 31

already signed, but /signed again for greyfox_fox's idea. top stuff.

jummeth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

London

Diary of a Madman [SiKK]

21 Dec 2006 at 09:45 - 32

Although I think this suggestion is really useful. What will end up happening is that the traders will just put their trades under mission.

Its exactly the same phenomenon as the "Trade Channel" and "Local". Its already happening.

Roupe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

21 Dec 2006 at 09:47 - 33

excelent idea greyf0x_f0x, just the same id like

Vandal2k6

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Manchester, UK

The Manchester Marauders

W/Rt

21 Dec 2006 at 09:57 - 34

Arrgh, don't wanna sound like I don't appreciate what we've already got but I gotta sign this.

/signed.

Thanks though Anet, wuv you.

Nexus Icon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Natis Ignigena

Me/

21 Dec 2006 at 10:19 - 35

/signed and triple-signed for greyf0x_fox's ideas

geekling

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 11:12 - 36

greyf0x_f0x idea is nice, with one caveat. It must only be available if you're got trade selected.

With the filter, and yes a big whopping /signed on that one. We're starting to see something very nifty and the drag and drop items is a nice carrot for getting people to use the trade and not spam mission with that kind of crap.

Adding another suggestion.

Make trade the default, rather than as now mission.

Simply put most of those spammers are lazy gits, it won't cut out all of the people spamming trades using the mission, morons will always try and get around things but it'd hopefully catch enough of them that are just to lazy to change from mission to trade to make things bearable.

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 11:16 - 37

Add TABS. One tab for missions, one for trade and so on, or ...

This feature could be very similar to a trade house, just need some upgrades. ArenaNet could even make a totally different (new) window just for trade, and remove trade for the Party Search.

And ... change that "Hunting" word and put "Farming" ^_^

Kityn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Michigan

Heroes of the Horn [HoH]

N/

21 Dec 2006 at 12:34 - 38

/signed. At its current state it is very annoying to try to find exactly what you are looking for. Be it mission,hunting party,quest or trades. Far too much clutter. Otherwise the idea of the Party Search feature is great.

Xtroll

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Norway

Helmguard Elite

Mo/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 13:36 - 39

Most is said /sign

Should be a easy fix to change the interferance.

Ivhon

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

Heros of the Horn

N/

21 Dec 2006 at 14:08 - 40

/sign

tradespam is one reason it is difficutl to find a group in town as it is. For the love of everything holy, please make it go away from the otherwise greatly appreciated search window.

Oh....yeha, the yellow is very oww.