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Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

21 Dec 2006 at 06:25 - 1

Yea for about 2 hours we could get eggnog for losing in the Snowball fight but now we get jack squat for losing.

Despite the title, I think all the fun of the Snowball fight has just disappeared. Before the patch you diddn't care if you win or lose, now people are going tooth and nail just to get 3 CC shards and people drop if their side is losing.

Please remedy this and give us back our booze!

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

21 Dec 2006 at 06:26 - 2

why should they give the eggnog back? all it did was encourage people to leech . ..

Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

21 Dec 2006 at 06:27 - 3

Dropping it now encourages people to drop.

But both our argument are post hoc ergo proctor hoc (sp?) and thus moot. My real gripe is that Eggnog is a holiday staple, and they killed it!

LagunaCid

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

BHL

R/

21 Dec 2006 at 06:36 - 4

Bring it back anet.... =[
Make that you only get one if you have a kill, or brought a present, if you are worried about leechers.

LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

21 Dec 2006 at 06:53 - 5

Before they fixed it, there were TON of people that were always AFKing for it. :]

Oh well. 310/1,000 for the Skillz title.

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

21 Dec 2006 at 06:59 - 6

I'd like to say thanks to ANet for taking away the eggnog prize. It was driving me nuts earlier trying to find a decent random group without afk'ers in it. I quickly got fed up and just stopped playing the snowball arena altogether. I understand your original intentions were good (everyone wins even if they don't), but there always has to be a bunch of lamers ruining it for everyone.

So, ummm, thanks.

ayame ftw

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Belgium

Forgot the Ghostlyyyyy

R/

21 Dec 2006 at 07:05 - 7

Isnt there a collecter that trade's u char carvings for candy canes and eggnog's?

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

21 Dec 2006 at 07:08 - 8

Ehh, I played non stop for like 5 hours. Didn't see any afkers pre booze fix (though I could see the reason to do so), nor did I see anybody drop afterwards.
Quite unfounded and snowball arena is still perfectly fun.

Sooty

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

Giggity Giggity Goo

21 Dec 2006 at 07:09 - 9

Clearly people were having way too much fun and so they had to take it away

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

21 Dec 2006 at 07:14 - 10

I liked it as well, but I can understand the leecher issue.

Personally, I would rather them replace the eggnog (which is in high demand) for something silly like Snowman Summoners or something that won't see very high dollar amounts and provide a bit of fun outside of the arena.

Engel the Fallen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 07:25 - 11

I would like to see AFKers kicked from the game if they go AFK for a set time repeatedly in these missions.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 07:40 - 12

I want booze!! Bring back the booze!!!!

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 07:46 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Highwind

Dropping it now encourages people to drop.

But both our argument are post hoc ergo proctor hoc (sp?) and thus moot. My real gripe is that Eggnog is a holiday staple, and they killed it!

post hoc ergo propter hoc (After it, therefore because of it)

Close enough.

I hadn't thought about leeching though...too much effort.

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

21 Dec 2006 at 07:51 - 14

Wow thats a bummer. I doubt i am even going to bother with Snowball Fights then since i just wanted the booze. To much of a strain for a chance at 3 CC shards or nothing.

death fuzzy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Nefarius Union

21 Dec 2006 at 08:01 - 15

hm, was fine during the first hour i played.

i say we should get a random item whenever we bring a present to the avatar and when you win a round.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 08:01 - 16

It's always the idiots who ruin it for everyone. It was a necessary "fix" to prevent leeching, sorry to say.

TechnoSword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

International SuperStars

W/Mo

21 Dec 2006 at 09:11 - 17

I actually had fun during wintersday even I stopped after winning 20 games (200 in my gaming title bar) the thing that annoyed me the most during the snowball fight were the leachers, all they did was join a game do nothing and end up with free eggnog which they could sell later for money. it annoyed the heck out of me since i just wanted to keep winning and playing.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

21 Dec 2006 at 09:14 - 18

How are they suppose to drop free beer for doing nothing when there's drunkard title? Sorry duders, but that would have ruined the game, I saw a few leechers myself. Nice job fixing it Anet!

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

21 Dec 2006 at 09:16 - 19

While I'm sure the free goodies via a loss will be missed, they had to be removed to stop leeching.

A.net did the right thing.

fripple

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 09:17 - 20

I played on the euro server for the first couple hours after it went live, and something like 50% of the groups I was in had a leecher in them. I was not impressed. This is a good fix.

Mad King Corn

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 09:21 - 21

Its a shame. Its too bad that a few leechers ruined it for everybody, I wanted the booze myself. I wish anet could have fixed it another way though, like removing the spiked eggnog from a players inventory if no movement was detected for a given length of time. So thanks leechers for ruining my fun, I guess I will find something else to do that a freeloading leecher can't ruin for me.

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

21 Dec 2006 at 11:37 - 22

yesterday i was seeing CC shards go for 100g ea, and Spiked Eggnog go for 200g lol
so yep, i think it encouraged leechers

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

21 Dec 2006 at 11:40 - 23

There's always something to complain about. YOu can never run out of complaints.

Player participation is dropping because there's no spiked eggnog is just an assumption. I like the titles, and that's why I'm playing. At least people are a little more sober when they're playing the arenas.

Kalki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Summoners of Forgotten Gods

W/Mo

21 Dec 2006 at 11:54 - 24

All I have to say is...

http://wonka.ytmnd.com/

(I'll get booze for my drunk title some other way. It's a good thing the Gamer title wasn't watered down early by the leechers.)

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

21 Dec 2006 at 12:07 - 25

Yea all the BOTS were doing is going in there and having a script reenter the mission for them. Why would Anet reward for that? I'm glad its gone. as to the quiters. If they quit the battle make it so they can not return for a FULL 24hrs. Problem solved. Should do the same thing in PvP.

Scarlett Romanov

Guest

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

21 Dec 2006 at 14:17 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enko

why should they give the eggnog back? all it did was encourage people to leech . ..

and what? The CCs don't? :|

Yeah. I was a little pissed to find that I am no longer getting free booze. Oh well. I'll live. :P

rangergirl100

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

R/Mo

21 Dec 2006 at 14:26 - 27

i know it was fun becasue i didnt care if i won or lost ,ill just wait for collectors now

Stixxx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

21 Dec 2006 at 14:31 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ernada

It's always the idiots who ruin it for everyone. It was a necessary "fix" to prevent leeching, sorry to say.

enough said. gg

Effendi Westland

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Isle of the dead

[DVDF][LDS]

P/W

21 Dec 2006 at 15:12 - 29

The happy hour over then? ^^

rohara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Rt/

21 Dec 2006 at 18:14 - 30

ARGH...you know, i hate leechers as much as the next person...but since when did they care about leechers? FA is chock full of em, as well as some arenas...to the point where i've stopped playing there altogether, and i've reported them a zillion times and nothing gets done...yet somehow its more important to stop leechers in a darn holiday snowball fight. i only liked the snowball fights cuz you win even if you lose. instead of ruining the rewards for those who do bother to play, how about finally acknowledging that leeching is a big problem and ban those players from the areas they leech in?

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

21 Dec 2006 at 18:23 - 31

rohara, excellen suggestion. Too bad they didn't think of it, and instead ruined it for he alcoholics. -.- *needs beer* ON ANOTHER NOTE! Why do they keep nerfing the amount of minutes each thing lasts?!

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 21:32 - 32

I wish I'd got my hands on some of that eggnog, before they nerfed it. Tried the snowball fights several times today and got nothing (always on the losing team). Frankly, I found the whole experience boring/irritating, but then I'm not a PvP'er. Eggnog would probably have improved my spirits some, though.

Thermoblaze

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Croatia

New Dragons[NDR]

Mo/

21 Dec 2006 at 23:12 - 33

It will be good if you loose that then you get one candy cane shard but this isn t good when you don t get anything

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

21 Dec 2006 at 23:19 - 34

If you get anything for not winning, anything at all, there will be leechers. It will be Fort Aspenwood all over again.

Shaden

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Lost Keys to Perception {lost}

R/

21 Dec 2006 at 23:32 - 35

They do actually ban leechers. I should know because I've reported many of them never to see them log on again (maybe a coincidence?). Maybe your just unlucky... although I do agree it's the idiots that ruin everything. But we shouldn't reward them for screwing everyone over. I think the system that detects if any activity takes place in the fight would be nice. If it doesn't detect anything you get zilch.

For all: You just need to take the effort to right out a quick problem form to Anet on the site (screenshot helps). I know it takes some time, but if we try to get rid of them as best we can, eventually Anet won't have to nerf because of so many leechers.

I guarentee 1 out of 1000 leechers is ever reported... that's Anets fault really because their system for reports is tedious, but I'll live with it as long as it serves it's purpose. /new report system

I do however, wish the eggnog was back. I can't hold my Wintersday Events until I get a stock of them to give away. :\

Nickhimself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Your face

True Gods Of War [True]

W/Mo

21 Dec 2006 at 23:36 - 36

This new event dependent title only encourages farmers / jerks / rage quitters.

Seriously, if they want to include titles like this, make them available year-round and NOT count toward KoBD and PKM. This way, if you really did enjoy snowball fighting, you could just go to Yak's Bend and jump in whenever you wanted to, then show people your Master Snow-Packer (5) title that doesn't count toward your overall title track.

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

21 Dec 2006 at 23:42 - 37

Lemme get this straight... they fix the AFK/leech problem in the snowball arena not even a day into it, but it still occurs in Alliance Battles/Fort Aspenwood when Factions has been out for roughly 8 months? You can sell ale, you can trade faction for amber/jadeite (then sell), what is the difference exactly?

Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

21 Dec 2006 at 23:47 - 38

Holiday Seasons, Rachtoh. They don't want leechers ruining it apparently.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

21 Dec 2006 at 23:49 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

Lemme get this straight... they fix the AFK/leech problem in the snowball arena not even a day into it, but it still occurs in Alliance Battles/Fort Aspenwood when Factions has been out for roughly 8 months? You can sell ale, you can trade faction for amber/jadeite (then sell), what is the difference exactly?

They should fix that but it doesn't use the same mechanics at all, and isn't as easy to fix.

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

21 Dec 2006 at 23:50 - 40

Pulling Gaile's Response from GWO (because Gaile apparently hates Guru):

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile

I'm going to go play SBA a bit this afternoon or evening, and I'll be sure to let Support know if we need to start monitoring SBA more, or pulling random chat logs and giving people time outs. (What a shame, to get a time out during an event. Dang. )

But honestly, guys, the reason we had to remove the Egg Nog consolation prize was because some players were abusing it. (I know, that sad situation when a few bad applies spoil it for the rest of us.) Leeching and AFKing is a common complaint from players, and we understand why! It's frustrating to have a team made up of people who've gone out for the night, or who are sleeping or watching telly but who are reaping undeserved rewards for doing nothing.

If some player feel that ArenaNet was wrong to make this change, consider this: We didn't make the change needlessly or without cause. Instead, we made an appropriate response to exploitation and/or abuse. So if things were changed, and if we players are a little poorer for it, the blame doesn't rest with ArenaNet, it lies with those who were knowingly twisting the system. Frankly, I'm sorry for the disappointment and I'm saddened by the change, but I agree it had to be done.