Snowball Fights DVG wtf?
Xiaxhou of Trinity
In DVG, I've had 7 consecutive losses because there is such an overflow of noobs. A bad luck streak can waste an hour in DVG and getting CCS and gamer pts is taking forever. I'm not just complaining about my frustration in DVG, i've had at least 5 ppl pm me agreeing as i lost my temper and started shouting in all chat "WHY ARE THERE SO MANY NUBS HERE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET CCS" (can't control your frustration all the time =] Anyways, I don't want to start a flaming thread against me or anet, I would just like to propose a dwayna vs grenth snowball fight TA version, so that we could snowball fight with our guildies and friends. Snowball fights can be seen as a serious field to gain gamer pts and CCS or as a different aspect of the GW game, but either way it would be more convenient and a more enjoyable "mini game", if i can call it, if there was a version where you could team up with ppl of your choosing.
lightblade
I get at least a 2 consecutive win whenever i play a game. I'm just that good. Don't blame others and blame yourself.
Calen The Civl
I played in quite a few "noob" teams as I snowballed. I just give them suggestions on how to play better and enjoy myself. It is a game afterall.
If you are that frustrated perhaps you should go farm ccs from critters someplace. Or if you enjoy snowballing that much, try to play at different times of the day; there are different types of players depending on what time you play.
I, personally wouldn't want to see a TA snowball fight. PvP tends to be a little too elitist for my taste (not all players are that way but enough of them are) and prefer the randomization method to water that down a bit.
Overall, lets just have fun and help people learn to play better.
If you are that frustrated perhaps you should go farm ccs from critters someplace. Or if you enjoy snowballing that much, try to play at different times of the day; there are different types of players depending on what time you play.
I, personally wouldn't want to see a TA snowball fight. PvP tends to be a little too elitist for my taste (not all players are that way but enough of them are) and prefer the randomization method to water that down a bit.
Overall, lets just have fun and help people learn to play better.
Westofeden
I've had allot of noob teams so far . . I think I've won 4/15-20 < some where around there because of leavers, leachers, and people who generaly don't know what they are doing even though I explained it before the fight . .
Fungus Amongus
Westofeden
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Avarre
If there are so many poor players, they will be on both sides. Due to the fact the strong teams stay in, the chance of getting a good team when joining is meagre. When it does happen, you'll typically get 20+ consec.
IlikeGW
Wait it out for a good team and go on a streak, or don't bother. I've done the former and have 600+ gamer points already.
LicensedLuny
I'm not worried about shards or points. It'd be nice to start from a place without so many people screaming about noobs. And I think I might just enjoy a snowball fight where no one rage quits.
Hey ANet, how about adding shards and points to the regular RA matches, too, for the duration of Wintersday? That way, the shard/point/title-happy pro gamers could get what they're after far away from the troublesome Wintersday fun-seekers. Maybe then the snowball fights could get back to the just-for-fun silliness they're meant to be.
Luny
On a slightly more serious note, I wonder if some of the problem might be how much faster they start now. I remember being given a longer countdown before matches started last year. It gave you more time to read the skill descriptions and/or chat a bit with your team. Those chats were often helpful to people new to the game.
Hey ANet, how about adding shards and points to the regular RA matches, too, for the duration of Wintersday? That way, the shard/point/title-happy pro gamers could get what they're after far away from the troublesome Wintersday fun-seekers. Maybe then the snowball fights could get back to the just-for-fun silliness they're meant to be.
Luny
On a slightly more serious note, I wonder if some of the problem might be how much faster they start now. I remember being given a longer countdown before matches started last year. It gave you more time to read the skill descriptions and/or chat a bit with your team. Those chats were often helpful to people new to the game.
Zinger314
I've been in teams with several players who had no clue what to do.
Yes, they were all W/Mo.
One even brought his present to the wrong avatar, and when he died with a different present, he began spamming chat with profanities because we didn't help him.
Ah, holidays.
Yes, they were all W/Mo.
One even brought his present to the wrong avatar, and when he died with a different present, he began spamming chat with profanities because we didn't help him.
Ah, holidays.
Hockster
What's the one thing common in your seven consecutive losses? YOU! Think about that for a bit.
Angel Netherborn
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Dragonious
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sixdartbart
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What's the one thing common in your seven consecutive losses? YOU! Think about that for a bit.
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Stole my reply Perhaps you may not be as good as you think you are and BTW snowball fights are for fun!!!
How can you take anything seriously that involves Yellow Snow?
Terra Xin
This is a festive time, a time for enjoyment and FUN. If you can't handle the jandal then stop playing in snowball arenas. And stop calling people noobs, its not nice.
Happy Wintersday everyone.
Happy Wintersday everyone.
Xiaxhou of Trinity
As I said before I didn't want to start a flaming thread; my idea of a noob team isn't a team that doesn't know what to do, it's a team that's unwilling to listen and learn and is so narrow minded to the fact that the rest of the team is blamed for not backing up and stuff like that. The point that snowball fights are for fun is just repeating what i said: the "mini game" can be viewed differently of it's importance and value, and i would like to say it's not fun losing consecutively so many times that logging off becomes the most viable choice. The kleenex box was funny but not helpful, I'm suggestingr a TA version of snowball fights, i made my statement, no more flaming pls.
Karmaniac
Judging by the general quality of conversation that's going on in DvsG I'm tempted to assume that the whole RA d1 has moved there. So getting the smelly end of stick in teaming is more of a rule than exception.
Beinke
Like said before, its not meant to be really all that serious. Just a bit of light hearted fun. What annoys me more is the people who are like 'OMFG NOOBS!!1!!', I mean, the noobs have gotta learn some way, don't they? >_>
Xiaxhou of Trinity
Yes, but to learn you need to listen to advice and directions of more exp players. I suppose now the topic has become more of 'how to be a decent player in all aspects of GW' Listen. Observe. Learn.
Clerihew
But when you get in a good team and go and a winning streak it feels all the better for having had to suffer through the bad ones.
I know it has been said before in the thread but, really, it IS just for a laugh. I understand what you mean but I doubt they are going to make any changes. If it's winding you up then perhaps you'll enjoy wintersday more doing other things.
I know it has been said before in the thread but, really, it IS just for a laugh. I understand what you mean but I doubt they are going to make any changes. If it's winding you up then perhaps you'll enjoy wintersday more doing other things.
Jongo River
The solution, imo, is to not allow teams to stay together. It seems that once a good team "happens", they own anyone who tries to get into the game. That's not my idea of fun. Speeding it up and making it more frantic might help, too.
I played several sessions yesterday and didn't win once. I was getting better - taking down carriers and scoring myself, but it doesn't matter if the rest of the team isn't performing.
I'm sorry, I don't want to whine - the event is great in terms of atmosphere, I can see a lot of effort has gone in, but *that* game is just not fun.
I played several sessions yesterday and didn't win once. I was getting better - taking down carriers and scoring myself, but it doesn't matter if the rest of the team isn't performing.
I'm sorry, I don't want to whine - the event is great in terms of atmosphere, I can see a lot of effort has gone in, but *that* game is just not fun.
vaxmor
if you cant hack it in random snowball arena, what makes you think youll be able to handle in organised snowball arena?
L2P
L2P
aron searle
I think there are alot of people like me playing, who dont care about winning or strategy, but just running about fragging people.
I assume like last year you have to run presents to gain points, i think ill just set myself to offline (so i dont get hate PM's calling me noob), and just run about fragging.
Its the snowball arena, suprisingly enough alot of people dont take it very seriosly and dont care one bit about playing as we "should", thats what the real pvp modes are for.
I assume like last year you have to run presents to gain points, i think ill just set myself to offline (so i dont get hate PM's calling me noob), and just run about fragging.
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glountz
I don't think a TA snowball is the key, the key is removing gamer points so nobody complain about "noobs" as there are no reward for winning but fun.
Gen Saver
i had 53 consecutive wins yesterday
than i had to leave cause i had dinner and when i came back i faced the party i was in before and they were on about 61 consecutive wins
than i had to leave cause i had dinner and when i came back i faced the party i was in before and they were on about 61 consecutive wins
Seltack
Mainly had incapable teams. Been in several where one or two know what to do but the third "dead weight" makes winning against competent people difficult. Good examples include body blocking people with presents and then dual running a present to prevent us losing it. Bad examples include people making no attempt to stop the opposition. Main problem is that people 1. Stand around killing people. 2. The whole team tries to cap one present for the hole match while one player on the other team can easily run in 5 presents Oo.
Too frustrating for me, and 3 CC shards don't cut it at as a reward for the inordinate amount of rage caused, much worse than playing RA, much worse than PUG HA, much worse than anything. Maybe if they were handing out 3k per match...
Too frustrating for me, and 3 CC shards don't cut it at as a reward for the inordinate amount of rage caused, much worse than playing RA, much worse than PUG HA, much worse than anything. Maybe if they were handing out 3k per match...
C2K
I don't blame the newbies. I blame the leechers. If they didn't have to ruin the fun, perhaps the losing side could get some compensation.
Lame leechers ruining the fun yet again.
Lame leechers ruining the fun yet again.
trobinson97
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I don't think a TA snowball is the key, the key is removing gamer points so nobody complain about "noobs" as there are no reward for winning but fun.
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My only complaint about the snowball fights are that all the characters aren't dressed in big bubble jackets, ear muffs and snow boots. That would have been ace. Ah, memories of a childhood long gone.
Engel the Fallen
While some may have fun playing a game with a win condition that you cannot win because you are stuck in a team who will not try to complete said condition, most people just find it annoying.
I mean, one or two of your team is AFK getting easy faction, one or two is running around like an idiot, and teams either go on till they are bored, or knocked out in one round. Not my idea of fun. Then again pugging UW or FoW with noobs was not my idea of fun either.
I mean, one or two of your team is AFK getting easy faction, one or two is running around like an idiot, and teams either go on till they are bored, or knocked out in one round. Not my idea of fun. Then again pugging UW or FoW with noobs was not my idea of fun either.
Amity and Truth
There is only one thing i seriously don't like about the Snowfights. Avalanche >>>>> Yellow Snow. Other than that, i'm having fun and whenever i recognize a "leet flamer" from shouting newbie insults earlier in the district, i will make sure to send him some special gifts in the match should i meet him. 
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Omega X
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I don't think a TA snowball is the key, the key is removing gamer points so nobody complain about "noobs" as there are no reward for winning but fun.
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Burst Cancel
Playing with people who don't share the same mentality and skill level as you is frustrating whether there's a reward or not. It's not fun for casual players to play with serious players, and it's not fun for serious players to play with casual players. The casual players will be wondering why their teammates are so anal about something that's supposed to be 'for fun', and the serious players will be wondering why their teammates are all ****ing idiots.
Separating the snowball fight into RA and TA would provide each type of player their own game, just like RA and TA do now. The casual players can screw around in RA to their hearts' content, and the serious players after titles, shards, and real competition can go to TA.
Separating the snowball fight into RA and TA would provide each type of player their own game, just like RA and TA do now. The casual players can screw around in RA to their hearts' content, and the serious players after titles, shards, and real competition can go to TA.
Jetdoc
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I've been in teams with several players who had no clue what to do.
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Bastian
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Playing with people who don't share the same mentality and skill level as you is frustrating whether there's a reward or not. It's not fun for casual players to play with serious players, and it's not fun for serious players to play with casual players. The casual players will be wondering why their teammates are so anal about something that's supposed to be 'for fun', and the serious players will be wondering why their teammates are all ****ing idiots.
Separating the snowball fight into RA and TA would provide each type of player their own game, just like RA and TA do now. The casual players can screw around in RA to their hearts' content, and the serious players after titles, shards, and real competition can go to TA. |
Some people play games for fun, regardless of their wins.
Some people look at playing games as fun as long as you are winning.
Seperating those two would make both parties happy.
On a seperate note, I ended up in a great group last night where we were all r3/6+. After 2 wins we all jumped on vent and continued to "pwn" people til we got bored. This was great, but always ended in a "gg".
Giga Strike
ya, there are alot of noobs around. which is why you should stop crying and find a way to fight better in it. or just keep trying and maybe you'll get lucky.
blastm
leechers aside, i see more and more players using wells and wards..
how is that possible?
how is that possible?
MasterThrawn
I had the same problem with teams not knowing what they were doing, but than again I didn't really know myself. After a few matches though I caught on, and went on a streak with a team for 12 consecutive wins. It's fun - no need to get frustrated - the thing you have to remember is once a team gets on a streak they stick together until they lose. You probably have been fighting winning teams. You'll get a good team - just have fun.
Apharot
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Navaros
Original poster is spot on with the original post.
The problem is that Snowball Arena requires masses of Presearing-level PVE players to perform R9+ PVP Player Relic Run skills. Obviously this is a leap of skill so grand that it requires a miracle that in reality, will almost never happen.
They should allow you to choose your teams in Snowball Arena so that good players are not forced time after time to group with masses of Presear-level players who are incapable of competing in Snowball Arena properly.
Alternatively, they could simply remove the presents/relic run aspect of the game entirely and have it actually just be a simple snowball fight.
Doing either of those things would lessen the frustration for good players by about 100 billion fold.
The problem is that Snowball Arena requires masses of Presearing-level PVE players to perform R9+ PVP Player Relic Run skills. Obviously this is a leap of skill so grand that it requires a miracle that in reality, will almost never happen.
They should allow you to choose your teams in Snowball Arena so that good players are not forced time after time to group with masses of Presear-level players who are incapable of competing in Snowball Arena properly.
Alternatively, they could simply remove the presents/relic run aspect of the game entirely and have it actually just be a simple snowball fight.
Doing either of those things would lessen the frustration for good players by about 100 billion fold.
OlMurraniKasale
I'm a snowball noob, I couldn't really care who wins/loses, and I certainly don't give more than a cursory moment to what the skill description actually says. I throw my snowballs, have fun and that's that.
I only just realized that armor meant nothing, so I have now started to frolick without such encumberances . . ..
I only just realized that armor meant nothing, so I have now started to frolick without such encumberances . . ..