Razah Info

Solar Light

Solar Light

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Teutonic Warriors {TW}

Mo/



new tidbit from galie, enjoy fellow Razah Fans

King Kong

King Kong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

She also sent off a bug report about the dwarf, looks like hes broke

Good news about Razah!!!

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

finally!!!
and that concludes our lesson for the day kids - it pays off to bitch and nag!
super-dooper-sweet!
i just hope it wont do for razzy what hat 'storage' did for storage

Phoenix Ex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/R

Another blow to people who actually spent effort ...maybe ANet will think of some thing for those people (variable hero maybe?)...

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex
Another blow to people who actually spent effort ...maybe ANet will think of some thing for those people (variable hero maybe?)...
id actually think thats kind of a selfish way of looking on it. razzy isnt an vanity item - so it only makes sense to be available for as much ppl as possible.
but if he is something like fow of heros then i have to demand he gets removed from the pvp selection of heros. pvp should get only the basic things and vanity items have no place there.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

I will cheer only when a change comes, and if that change removes any involvement of DoA...







Ah, what the hell: Yay!!

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Hey, now, I only said that changes were being considered. Nothing final yet, and making Razah even just a bit more easily obtained doesn't take away anyone's achievement. You can always refer to him proudly as "Razah, my old-school Hero."

And no, all the world of engaging in nagging and... other stuff... won't cause the designers to make a change unless the change is desirable, in which case they probably knew about it before the nagging began.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

nice job on doa

heh

lot of time wasted on level design for something 99% of the population can't get to or survive in

chantry is a half empty district

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
chantry is a half empty district
You do know that you only have to go to the chantry once to get in, then Gate of Anguish is an unlocked Outpost/Mission spot? So yeah, the Chantry of Secrets would be half empty unless that server had favor.




Anyway, OT: So, Gaile, can we at least assume that Razah will no longer require any traversing into the four DoA zones? *please please please please* Ya know... IF a change comes?

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
nice job on doa

heh

lot of time wasted on level design for something 99% of the population can't get to or survive in

chantry is a half empty district
Havent you already been shown to look like the fool already when you first complained about reconnects? Now you have to bitch about something and yet again you're complaining for the wrong reason?

Illuminus

Illuminus

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

I would be so happy if it was a bit easier to gain him! I looked forward in unlocking him with my ritualist.. but just havent had time to do Domain of Anguish. They say two ritualists are better than one after all .

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Hey, now, I only said that changes were being considered.

Nothing final yet
one can hope !

Solar Light

Solar Light

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Teutonic Warriors {TW}

Mo/

galies text was clar that it was only considored, so folsk, dont take it as absolute yet, but i think its a good sign.

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

Quote:
lot of time wasted on level design for something 99% of the population can't get to or survive in
I disagree on the "can get to" part. Anyone can finish the game IMO.

However if you are an Assassin, Dervish, Paragon, or a Mesmer you will have virtually NO chance of finding any group.

Furthermore those that can get into groups must have skills only found in Prophecies such as MS or SS. 12 man groups in DOA from the start would have alleviated some class and build bias. Not all but some.

Please don't get me wrong I think DOA is fine "as is" for some players. I do however find that getting Razah for all of my PvE characters as “unachievable” since I must have one of each gem type. Currently I have earned one of each GEM and have spent countless hours (weeks) trying to find a group for Foundry. I’ve given up and have returned to our normally scheduled GW. I can live without FOW armor and Crystalline weapons there are equivalents in other places, however I must have a Ritualist HERO. There are just too many FUN builds you can do with them.

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

Thanks for sharing this bit of good news, yet I do hope that they finely see that something needs to change about obtaining the only Ritualist hero with out extreme requirements.

Mad King Corn

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

Even though its not guaranteed, this is very exciting news indeed!

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

*prays*

I want Razah!

Relambrien

Relambrien

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Delaware, USA

Error Seven Operators [Call]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex
Another blow to people who actually spent effort ...maybe ANet will think of some thing for those people (variable hero maybe?)...
Would you deny the public access to the simple cure for cancer just because you survived without it? (that was to quote a picture I saw over on Team-iQ ^^) And while I don't care much about Razah, it's always nice to see Anet considering changes to cater to their playerbase, PvE or PvP.

Solar Light

Solar Light

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Teutonic Warriors {TW}

Mo/

theres also the fact that pvpers can unlock him for a measly 6k balth, which can be gotten in three hours or so.


while we need to pay out a great deal in PVE to get him.

Franco Power

Franco Power

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

UK

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by upier
id actually think thats kind of a selfish way of looking on it. razzy isnt an vanity item - so it only makes sense to be available for as much ppl as possible.
but if he is something like fow of heros then i have to demand he gets removed from the pvp selection of heros. pvp should get only the basic things and vanity items have no place there.

you can ask for all heroes to be removed completly, how about that ?

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

The fact that they are considering that Razah should be a little more easily attainable shows that the dev team understands things from the average players perspective. That's pretty cool.

Maybe they already felt this way without seeing the posts about people wanting easier access to a ritualist hero.

Anyway, here's hoping that they manage to find a way to allow the average player to get a rit hero.

As for me, I'm playing a rit again, and I'm not really great at the game, so maybe I'll have a 'big brudda' rit hero to play with someday.

unmatchedfury

unmatchedfury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cookie Cutter [FTW]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solar Light
theres also the fact that pvpers can unlock him for a measly 6k balth, which can be gotten in three hours or so.


while we need to pay out a great deal in PVE to get him.
rit lord spam for an hour and a half actually. With the buff to balth faction in RA its really easy to unlock the stuff you want

More Outrage

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Yorkshire

GOO

Would be nice to get him earlier, would love to test some builds (love just standing and watching heroes do the job, it`s gratifiying to say the least).
Go Gaile!
Thought he would be in the Desolation but so far beyond the Vortex is just silly.

Menzoberranzan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Australia

Celestial Order

If ANet removes the Gem requirement I'll be very happy lol, so far I have my chars parked at DoA. None of em have found a group to get the gems individually so it kinda sucks.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

Maybe they can add another Ritualist somewhere that is easier to get.
Or make it so Razah is easier to get, but change the hero recieved from the quest to something like a different species.
Like a Tengu or Naga hero or something.

I'm sure people would like a neat Tengu or Naga hero as a reward for DOA.
Nagas and Tengu already come with the ability to equip items and use skills. They probably have a complete bone structure like human models.


The game already has many different Tengu models. They come in all shapes and sizes! People who have just bought Nightfall may have never seen a Tengu and really think they are neat.

Caelus The Fallen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Glasgow

Voice of the Darkness

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
Maybe they can add another Ritualist somewhere that is easier to get.
Or make it so Razah is easier to get, but change the hero recieved from the quest to something like a different species.
Like a Tengu or Naga hero or something.

I'm sure people would like a neat Tengu or Naga hero as a reward for DOA.
Nagas and Tengu already come with the ability to equip items and use skills. They probably have a complete bone structure like human models.

The game already has many different Tengu models. They come in all shapes and sizes! People who have just bought Nightfall may have never seen a Tengu and really think they are neat.
But they squawk and scare the heck out of any hardened Prophecies player!
Talon Silverwing already makes me jumpy, I'm not sure my heart can take a Tengu hero

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Hey, now, I only said that changes were being considered. Nothing final yet, and making Razah even just a bit more easily obtained doesn't take away anyone's achievement. You can always refer to him proudly as "Razah, my old-school Hero."

And no, all the world of engaging in nagging and... other stuff... won't cause the designers to make a change unless the change is desirable, in which case they probably knew about it before the nagging began.
you could have just said nothing you know :S.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
The game already has many different Tengu models. They come in all shapes and sizes! People who have just bought Nightfall may have never seen a Tengu and really think they are neat.
Well... you know... it's kinda the same thing with humans.

Silver Spook

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Hey, now, I only said that changes were being considered. Nothing final yet, and making Razah even just a bit more easily obtained doesn't take away anyone's achievement. You can always refer to him proudly as "Razah, my old-school Hero."
I hope bit more easily doesnt mean you remove gemstone requirements. Make gemstone drops easier, have triple gemstone drop weekend, but do no simply give Razah as some lame quest reward.

I got my Razah by playing with friends. I didn't even consider completing Mallyx, but we farmed and *gasp* shared the gemstone drops. With current drop rate you can get lot of gemstones and if you bother to *double gasp* share drops with friends/guild mates it quite easy to get, so you dont even have to complete single quest for these gemstones.

Bring in that triple gemstone weekend and let people achive it themself. They could always farm easier areas for gold/green and buy gemstones (prices are still dropping).

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

Terra Xin, what do you mean?
I don't understand.

I was just thinking that another non-human hero would be neat to get and it looked like the game already has a complete bone animation set for Tengu to perform any professions moves.
It can be a mute Tengu.

dreamhunk

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

:P

E/Me

well I got razah yesterday it is pretty easy, if anet changes it. Don't forget us players who work hard to get razah. I only bought one gem worth about 15k. I pretty much did must of the quest to get them gems.

to the design team I like how you made the aera for razza. however I could have been bigger aera to explore

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

I hope by changes she means they've found a way to make Razah variable and then made it 2 heroes per campaign since they add 2 classes per campaign meaning we get a mesmer and a new ritualist whoo hoo! YEAH!

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
Terra Xin, what do you mean?
I don't understand.
Humans would be the template for Guildwars when making other species. So if a Tengu is in forms of different skin tones and clothing, its a sign of race, similar to that of a Human. Sorry, I think I went a little tangent with my reply :P.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

Oh I see now. The Tengu would just be using all the human animations with a modified bone structure. I'm guessing the Naga are very similar. They would just make the bottom part of the naga shift to the leg bones moving back and forth?

Let's have some Tengu heroes!
Here's some names.
Quillo McHuffsalot
Beaker Grunter
Barking Birdman

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
And no, all the world of engaging in nagging and... other stuff... won't cause the designers to make a change unless the change is desirable, in which case they probably knew about it before the nagging began.
I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean, exactly, considering that you have said on hundreds of occasions that player feedback is absolutely invaluable, and that you (devs) take what players say into account when planning changes.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean, exactly, considering that you have said on hundreds of occasions that player feedback is absolutely invaluable, and that you (devs) take what players say into account when planning changes.
What that means is that player feedback comes in many forms, and that the dev team is probably aware of issues -- from the player base, yes! -- before those issues become a matter of screaming and nagging. I mean that by the time players are screaming and nagging about it, the team has read the earlier, more-constructive comments and is already at work contemplating changes.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
What that means is that player feedback comes in many forms, and that the dev team is probably aware of issues -- from the player base, yes! -- before those issues become a matter of screaming and nagging. I mean that by the time players are screaming and nagging about it, the team has read the earlier, more-constructive comments and is already at work contemplating changes.
Ah, I see. Thank you for the clarification.

DKnightJ

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Well, I consider myself a semi-hardcore player (I play a lot, but only with henchies and heroes) and I HATE the wait time for getting groups. I became thrilled by the fact that Heroes were introduced, it allowed me to have a good enough group to beat Prophesies (have you seen how FEW people are in the RoF?).
If the DoA had like henchmen or even better (but highly unlikely ) the option to go 7 heroes I would be in there full time trying to beat it, but the fact that I need to go with a group of players turns me off. (Much like the HoH, UW, and FoW) Heck, I wouldn't mind a reduced drop rate, all I care about is being able to do the full PvE experience alone.

Clone

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Well, I will certianly welcome any changes to DoA. I'm sure Anet had good intentions going in, but seeing as its rarely able to even make over one district worth of players, it is obviously very unpopular. I really don't care whether that be a complete overhaul of the place to make it somewhere people would actually want to play or simply making the hero more attainable so I can get him and never go back. At any rate, I'll welcome any change that will simplify the process. I thank you if you indeed are doing this.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

/me runs through the topic singing...

'Neeew Tengu Herrrooooo!'

/me hits a wall

Solar Light

Solar Light

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Teutonic Warriors {TW}

Mo/

lol, considoring the liking for zhed.... a tengu hero wouldnt go bad... and the krytan tengu do have messies...