The New Weapons of Guild Wars

IkegaIXII

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

H-Town TX

fist

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I've been playing GW for about 8 months now and one reason why I was drawn into the game was the items. I started out in prophecies and I was interested in gameplay mostly but also I thought the warrior weapons and spell castor items were awesome. Now, I've bought and beat Factions and Nightfall and I can't help but feel that the new weapons and items are much duller than the old ones. It may seem cheezy or generic but I like collecting and using awesome looking weapons for my pvp/pve warrior. I'm sure many people do the same and they do it for other classes also.

For now, I'm gonna put swords as an example on the discussion table. I've loved the prophecies swords such as wingblade, fellblade, spatha, longsword, etc and I feel that these weapons are much more (How can I put it)*Cooler* compared to the elonian weapons. I believe it's partially because the size porportion to the character Model. With the new weapons such as Aerowind Blade, Fiery Gladius, Elonian Blade, and Machete, these weapons look like toothpicks compared to the average size of swords in prophecies/Factions. I hope I'm not the only one who thinks that these items seem disproportional to the big and tough character models of warriors. So many times have I found Elonian items and I didn't want to use it because it made my warrior look like he's running into a battlefield with a dagger.

Another issue I found was the regurgitation of old skins and low details on skin designs for items. The regurgitation of old skins such as plagueborn items renamed for new nightfall items didn't bother me too much but it was rather disappointing to me when I found out. The low details and polygon count on some items such as igneous mauls and igneous swords were disappointing also but did not affect me too much either.

My point is that after Factions, much of the items seem less glamorous and looked disproportional to the character models. Of course, many people would have different opinions about the new items because everybody has their own taste. However, you cannot deny that the average sizes of new items in GW are much smaller then the old, and because of this, many items seem disproportional to character models such as warrior items to warriors.

Honestly, these issues are making me much less interested in PVE GW but I still play alot due to the pvp elements of GW. I hope Anet reads this so they can improve and update even though it may take a lot of effort. Wow, it feels like I've written en essay =.= sorry, I hope you guys agree.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Totally agree with you Chapter1 had far superior skins compared to the following chapters.

My personal favs are Summit Axe and Brute Sword..proper weapons that actually look like sword/axes.

Most of the newer skins are more fantasy based..eewww

Hand of Ruin

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Admins Bane
Totally agree with you Chapter1 had far superior skins compared to the following chapters.

My personal favs are Summit Axe and Brute Sword..proper weapons that actually look like sword/axes.

Most of the newer skins are more fantasy based..eewww
Elemental sword anyone?

I agree though, I LOVE the realist skins, like gothic sword, flamberge, longsword ect...

I really cant say I'd want to buy a single skin from any weapon in nightfall... I think thats one of the areas they slacked on to get the game out in time.

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

well the Desolation Maul from Nightfall looks really really wicked. As far as other (sword/hammer/axe) skins, I like the Barrel Hammer kind of. It's pretty neat. The scimitar-like skins they have are decent.

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

yh, i like my swrds to be 'real' long sword ftw! also love the spiked axe
many of elonial wepons are wierd looking :/

Cunning

Cunning

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Vabbi, Elona

Ex Talionis [Law]

Me/

There's plenty of nice new items in Nightfall, you just have to look for them.

Take your pick:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Sword#Elona
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Axe#Elonian
etc...

There's a lot of nice new caster weapons too that I've been thinking about buying.

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

whether you like the skin or not, it depend on your own taste. And also how well you can match your weapon with your cloth/dress/armor

Lexar

Lexar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Organised Spam

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Actually I think factions has the best weapons set, both on a technical level with sharper textures and more effects, but also the looks, they're more varied and more imaginative (only the crenallated sword looks like total poo, like someone made their first weapon in 3d max, disproportionally big and has lots of blunt and big squares).

Elonian weapons look... weird.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Golden Phoenix Blade. Accept no substitutes.

Deleet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Denmark

Rule Thirty Four [prOn]

Mo/

There are awesome items in every chapter IMO.

IkegaIXII

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

H-Town TX

fist

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cunning
There's plenty of nice new items in Nightfall, you just have to look for them.

Take your pick:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Sword#Elona
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Axe#Elonian
etc...

There's a lot of nice new caster weapons too that I've been thinking about buying.
Believe me, I've been looking and I've looked at every item. Other then the very expensive elonian swords such as elemental sword, colossal simitar, there is no other sword I would consider about buying because of the size proportion to my characters. It's kinda like GuildWars advertising about how awesome it is to beat the game and get a LEGENDARY forgotten SWORD, but when you do you realize that it is similiar in size to a shortblade or dagger and so is most of the new weapons with nightfall.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

It really is just a matter of taste.

As for detail-wise, all the weapons are game-quality. They skip corners and cut as much as possible to preserve memory.

Some weapons are better than others, some are just flat polygons with alpha texture cuts. Proportion-wise is the only real problem with the weapons.

If the Vertebreaker was much bigger, it would be a much more wanted item.

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

I agree with the OP on weapon skins, GWP has the best weapons skins imho with factions following close behind. Factions has some of the best armours skins...some of NF armours were worse than GWP's.

Most of Elonian weapons skins either look extremely cool (Death sword) or extremely crappy (i give up go check it yourselves)

Size and looks of weapons does matter, i dont think anyone like to use something that looks like a umbrella from the discount section of Kmart to fight a Dragon or save the world....last i check we are not playing in Harry Potter's world.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberNigma
well the Desolation Maul from Nightfall looks really really wicked. As far as other (sword/hammer/axe) skins, I like the Barrel Hammer kind of. It's pretty neat. The scimitar-like skins they have are decent.
When i first saw the Desolation Maul, i ROFLed. It look like a giant yoyo on a stick.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

You use swords as an example, I'll use hammers:

Bronze Crusher

Desolation Maul

Igneous Maul

Ruby Maul

And 2 really nice factions ones:

Tetsubo Hammer

Golden Maul

Prophecies doesnt have hammers anywhere near as decent as these.

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

bhavv unfortunately not many players care about hammers least use them, which is why they are the least valued *coughs* worthless*cough*weapons in the game sadly.

Even the Factions Elite mission Kanaxai's Mallet is worth less than 10k even though its a great skin and Kanaxai's Axe is worth less than 30k even though it is a unique skin because its size is disportionate. Kanakai's Axe look like a old frying pan in size than a real weapon.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Loki, GPB are a joke...I mean they are butt ugly and tinyyyy

Maybe they should run another design a weapon contest.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Admins Bane
Loki, GPB are a joke...I mean they are butt ugly and tinyyyy
You realise this entire thread is personal opinion right? Fellblades are the single ugliest weapon in the game, not just sword. Who cares if it's huge when it looks like you went to the wreckers and picked up a piece of scrap metal?

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Fellblades are similar to poorly crafted swords of the old days...I never use to be a fan of fellblades but the skins on the newer items made me realize they ain't that bad.

Yea I know it'sall about personal opinion but if there is no disagreement this thread will die quickly

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thallandor
bhavv unfortunately not many players care about hammers least use them, which is why they are the least valued *coughs* worthless*cough*weapons in the game sadly.

Even the Factions Elite mission Kanaxai's Mallet is worth less than 10k even though its a great skin and Kanaxai's Axe is worth less than 30k even though it is a unique skin because its size is disportionate. Kanakai's Axe look like a old frying pan in size than a real weapon.
In your opinion that is. I think nightfall has the best looking swords in the game as well, but someone else already linked them. Look through the wiki list

I agree that fellblades and brute swords are the ugliest swords in the game and wouldnt ever want one.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Pshh req7 15^50 brute is one THE rarest items in the game..I only know of 1 that is on an active account.

Jesse

Jesse

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

New York

Vanquishing Memories [VM]

Mo/Me

i love the longsword and long-swords because they match in propotion with something in real life. I think Prophecies had some of the best skins because they are mideval and people know what some skins look like. Asian Weps ?? has anyone ever seen an asian sword other than a katana and some others.
What kind of axe is the desolatino axe. Some of the skins are worthless and some are awsome but it ends up that its all peoples opinions and some people might like the fruity skins that anet comes up with.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

My two favourite were the Jitte and Zodiac swords.
But I sold them cuz I got bored with the character and needed money for my other character.
Everyone has their own tastes.

Captain Arne Is PRO

Captain Arne Is PRO

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005



Greatest sword in the game. Hell, not just sword. Greatest weapon in the game.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

A pic that works would be great...

manaleak34

manaleak34

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Onslaught of Xen

E/Mo

Be glad you at least have options. Most casters are left with generic skins :P

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Casters have some great skins...

Raven staff
Ghostly
Medussa head cesta
Claw cesta
orrish staff
double head dragon
dragon staff
...

then there is the bad ones...jellyfish ftw?!

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

imo..worst skin is the fiery and icy axes from NF..they sell for alot too, i prob never buy 1 tbh
also, the NF sword that looks like a fish..i pissed my self from laughter wen i saw it
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Ripper_Blade
need 2 rename it..fishy blade

some other ugly weapons
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Adamantine_Falchion (wtf is that supposed 2 be)
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Bramble_Blade
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Broadblade_Scimitar (heap of steel fresh from the scrap yard)
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Elonian_Blade (boooring)
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Fanged_Sword (wierd..)

ok..now sum gd sword
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Long_Sword (thats a sword)
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Gothic_Sword
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Platinum_Blade (shame bout handle)
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Colossal_Scimitar
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Tattooed_Blade
why do nf swords have bloody holes him them? makes em look crao imo

wands..dead scepter..love it
blazing wing wand is kwl
platinum wands are nice
dragons breath wand
crystal wand

staves
divine staff
bone claw staff
tidal staff
dragon staff

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by onerabbit
imo..worst skin is the fiery and icy axes from NF..they sell for alot too, i prob never buy 1 tbh
also, the NF sword that looks like a fish..i pissed my self from laughter wen i saw it
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Ripper_Blade
need 2 rename it..fishy blade

some other ugly weapons
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Adamantine_Falchion (wtf is that supposed 2 be)
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Bramble_Blade
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Broadblade_Scimitar (heap of steel fresh from the scrap yard)
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Elonian_Blade (boooring)
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Fanged_Sword (wierd..)

ok..now sum gd sword
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Long_Sword (thats a sword)
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Gothic_Sword
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Platinum_Blade (shame bout handle)
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Colossal_Scimitar
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Tattooed_Blade
why do nf swords have bloody holes him them? makes em look crao imo
thats just your preference issue.

I personally love the Adamantine Falchion and the fanged sword.

as for holes, blades tend to have holes to lighten the weight of it and ajust the balance.

Gwmaster

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Canada/Quebec

N/

there is lots of skins i like in all the campaigns. but imo some skins need some fixing, the vertebreaker/colosal simitar have some kind of low resolution skin.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gwmaster
there is lots of skins i like in all the campaigns. but imo some skins need some fixing, the vertebreaker/colosal simitar have some kind of low resolution skin.
or its supposed to have a grainy texture?

You just got tomahawked

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

N/

It's the same with movies the original is always better.

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

I think because tyria has the fds and ids they just owned all other campaigns

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Lighten up....screaming the race card gets old...

Elonian weapons are african/tribal based
Cathan weapons are asian based
Tyrian weapons were called europen based to fill in the gap.

KingKryton

KingKryton

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

New Zealand

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by onerabbit
imo..worst skin is the fiery and icy axes from NF..they sell for alot too, i prob never buy 1 tbh
also, the NF sword that looks like a fish..i pissed my self from laughter wen i saw it
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Ripper_Blade
need 2 rename it..fishy blade

some other ugly weapons
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Adamantine_Falchion (wtf is that supposed 2 be)
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Bramble_Blade
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Broadblade_Scimitar (heap of steel fresh from the scrap yard)
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Elonian_Blade (boooring)
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Fanged_Sword (wierd..)

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thats reason i didnt buy NF, all the weapons and armour dont look very good. In factions it had crappy scenery but good looking weapons. In nightfall they have Great looking scenery but crappy looking weapons.

Chapter 4 will either have everything looking good or everything looking bad

Jeremy Untouchable

Jeremy Untouchable

Wow Stole my freetime

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arkansas

None

W/E

I'm sorry best swords= fellblade,brute,gothic
best axes=summit,gothic,shadow,
hammer, murrsatt is the only one.....

bilwit

bilwit

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Merc Works

Me/

I'm still waiting for more traditional-based weapons/gear.. You'd figure that regular old heroes would wear normal-looking armor instead of a fancy-smancy-power-rangerish type.

Rapiers would own face.. that along with a robin hood-like getup and two handed swords

EDIT: How come they never added this: http://www.guildwars.com/images/3dre...esmer-page.jpg

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

swords -
gothic
shinobi blade
longsword
Mallyx's(sp?) sword
ascalon razor (collector longsword skin, the black one like stefan has)

I tend toward the realistic weps, tho i do like a nice chaos axe

Orinn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Defiant Dragons

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Admins Bane
Fellblades are similar to poorly crafted swords of the old days...I never use to be a fan of fellblades but the skins on the newer items made me realize they ain't that bad.

Yea I know it'sall about personal opinion but if there is no disagreement this thread will die quickly
That's what makes Fellblades so fun: they look dangerous. They aren't polished weapons of a gentleman warrior. They look big and mean and scary. One of my favorite skins for a sword, along with crenellated blades. Some people will want slim blades and a character that looks like he'd be at home in "Pirates of the Carribbean" Some people want the barbarian warrior look, and some (like myself) have characters with the plate armor and a medium-sized weapon. Nobody's really WRONG on it, just how you want your own character to look.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

opinions are like a-holes, everyone has one.

It depends on your taste. If you are into European themed stuff, then Prophecies; Asian themed stuff Factions; Middle Eastern/African themed stuff then Nightfall.

Winstar

Winstar

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

London

It is a matter of taste and for me I preferred factions skins,

swords - jade, oni, golden pheonix
axes - gothic, gothic dual, gemstone
hammers - tetsubo, Icebreaker (ok its in tyria, but was realased during factions)
bows - platinum