1v1 Battles Coming?! [Gaile Log]

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Gaile was in Kamadan today (log on GWO), but there's one line that peaked my concern (bottom of the second picture of those logs)



...what?! Just...WHAT?!

From a literal standpoint, these "1v1 battles" do not refer to Hero Battles, (the spiritual "1v1"), because Gaile explicitly states "will come."

This will cause a lot of problems and complaints. What about the obvious advantage of Mesmers and Necromancers over....everyone? I guess the format will be true "Build Wars."

Although Gaile has had a sketchy track record recently...see Treasure Chests...

Harold

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

If I'm not mistaken, there was once a time when they planned a Gladiator's Arena, which was supposed to be 1v1...but they took it out for some reason. Maybe they changed their minds again?

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Why does it always seem to be the "end of the world" every time Anet releases info on a new feature? Yeesh.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

meh, tell me one time Gaile has said a comment like this and been right. Then I might believe it.

Anti Oath

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Waiting

Balance

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harold
If I'm not mistaken, there was once a time when they planned a Gladiator's Arena, which was supposed to be 1v1...but they took it out for some reason. Maybe they changed their minds again?
it was even in the manual, right where HB is now.

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

Gameamp Guides [AMP]



It would work if your health, energy, and skills are replaced with preset things, like dragon arena or snowball fight.

greyf0x_f0x

greyf0x_f0x

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK

DVD Forums [DVDF]

Mo/Me

I believe they class Hero Battles as 1v1. From the official press release about competitive play:

Quote:
1v1 Tournament Ladder and Championship Series
This is probably the biggest expansion of all. Given the introduction of Hero Battles with the release of Guild Wars Nightfall, it only makes sense for us to offer this as an additional format for competitive play.

Starting in early 2007, alongside the 2007 Guild Wars GvG World Championship series, we will run a similar series for 1v1 Hero Battles (1 player and 3 Heroes vs. 1 player and 3 Heroes).
I wouldn't get your hopes up for anything more than HB in terms of 1v1, personally.

Quid Pro Quo

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Theres no reason not to have it. If people don't like they they just won't play it but its nice for people who do.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

It would be interesting. Either go with a Jack of All Trades build and get trounced or go with a specific build and cross your fingers that the opponent doesn't have a skill to shut it down.

Maybe give 1vs1 arena builds a 12 slot skill bar.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

1v1 fights in GW without any class/skill restrictions are really, really stupid. I've watched enough in guild scrimmages. Thats why they went through the trouble of heroes, so we'd have a (hopefully, eventually) viable 1v1 competition.

Would be nice if you could do a no-faction/title hero battle duel with any given person.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Non-hero battle 1v1 would be......mesmer heaven. Seriously.

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
Non-hero battle 1v1 would be......mesmer heaven. Seriously.
Indeed...

But by that time, you'll see it filled with mesmers...so it becomes mes vs. mes arena.

LagunaCid

LagunaCid

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

BHL

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
Indeed...

But by that time, you'll see it filled with mesmers...so it becomes mes vs. mes arena.
Srsly? Ill bring a Spell Breaker monk :P

Shuuda

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

You people are overrate Mesmers and Necros in 1 on 1s, arn't we forgetting the kings of fast kills.

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by LagunaCid
Srsly? Ill bring a Spell Breaker monk :P
Or monk heaven in that case. Who can kill a monk that keep healing itself?

Or Rt with a forest of spirits.

DFrost

DFrost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ultima Thule

Legacy of Echovald [Echo]

P/

Zinger, you seem to get concerned and outraged whenever they implement something new or are about to. 1v1 battles have been requested, I don't see what makes seeing it so agonizing, if you don't like 1v1 can't you just refrain from playing it? It's not like it affects GvG ladder, ecto drop rate or whatever. Not liking some features is one thing, but chronic complaining gets old fast.

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
Non-hero battle 1v1 would be......mesmer heaven. Seriously.
Yeah, mesmers are indestructible

Comeon, mesmers are not a standard build that beat everything, if so it would be filled with mesmers everywhere. It pretty much depends on your skills what class u can beat (or not).

Basically i dont think its viable as 1 vs 1 is so limited and the team makesthe play go good or bad.

Fallen Hunter

Fallen Hunter

I Saw That

Join Date: Mar 2006

The bushes

D/R

I think it would become build wars - but so what. Some people find coming up with build fun, some don't. I think it would be interesting - I imagine some nice new builds would be created in the process.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

What about an Me/A with

Illusionary Weaponry
Arcane Echo
Dark Escape
Feigned Neutrality
Clumsiness
Diversion
Signet of Twilight
Power Leak

broodijzer

broodijzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

void

Mo/

/roll 100 for easy title?

Tark Alkerk

Tark Alkerk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Black Hole

less

E/

the discusion seems to be getting abit off topic, but i can't see what point introducing 1v1 would have, it seems like a pointless waste of time.

Shadow of Light

Shadow of Light

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Australia

Mo/

I think a 1 on 1 battle option would be cool. Preferably if you could 'challenge' someone, rather than make it random.

EDIT: A free for all arena would be kinda cool too...

I just think people would have fun with the extra options... who cares if it's 'Build Wars'? If I had 1 plat for everyone who said 'ZOMG my warrior could kick your warrior's ass...'

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by DFrost
1v1 battles have been requested, I don't see what makes seeing it so agonizing
The fact that not all classes are equal when put in the same situation. 1v1 battles would be almost completely dependent on the builds run.

exiled mat

exiled mat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

The netherlands > friesland > balk

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
The fact that not all classes are equal when put in the same situation. 1v1 battles would be almost completely dependent on the builds run.
Average mesmer build > warriors, assassins, dervish..... and so fort

IMO 1vs1 is exactly the same as a simple scrimmage match..

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow of Light
I just think people would have fun with the extra options... who cares if it's 'Build Wars'? If I had 1 plat for everyone who said 'ZOMG my warrior could kick your warrior's ass...'
QFT, this is true. What is wrong with build wars, I mean Anet designed this game for you to make your own strategy and not just copy other peoples or run cookie cuter gimmicks.

Sanji

Sanji

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tark Alkerk
the discusion seems to be getting abit off topic, but i can't see what point introducing 1v1 would have, it seems like a pointless waste of time.
Perhaps the same could be said of any activity in a video game.

JR

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

1v1 is about as meaningful as rock/paper/scissors.

Akuma

Akuma

IRC W H O R E

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australian Trolling Crew HQ, rightful leader and administration

Yale University [Snow]

W/

Oh well...at least this will throw the stupid "I challenge all will pay 300000k if win pstspstpstsptstp" wammos in town...

I thought this was a team based game anyway...

tre_peter

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Northern Ireland

Perhaps you could only play against other characters which are the same primary profession as your own?

This would be great I think!

unmatchedfury

unmatchedfury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cookie Cutter [FTW]

It doesn't really matter because we know for certain that the 1 vs 1 she refers too is hero laddder most likly. Right now Hero battles is a joke. THe key to winning it is to either
1.roll for title
2.find a build that works with AI

the probelm is that the AI is too much of a dumbass to really know how to play anythign beyond SR ele.

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Yeah, Hero battles are the epitome of stupidity. That people simply roll to win is disgusting. Of course, the strategy only works because nobody gives a rat's ass about them.

Metanoia

Metanoia

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow of Light
...[snip]...A free for all arena would be kinda cool...[snip]...
Now, if they were going to bother with a silly little instant-action format, a Persistent FFA arena would probably be more entertaining than RA when you're bored and waiting for guildmates to log on.

16 person FFA Persistent map. Dieing gets you kicked and replaced by a new player, kill quota (1 every 5 mins?) to avoid being kicked for being boring, faction only for kills to encourage offensive builds... Oh, and throw in an observer mode for people in the outposts.
...What? It could happen. ¬_¬

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuuda
You people are overrate Mesmers and Necros in 1 on 1s, arn't we forgetting the kings of fast kills.
[skill]Signet of Midnight[/skill]

GG.

logan90

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Great. They're working on something pointless which we can already do through guild scrimmages. Waste of time really.

Deleet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Denmark

Rule Thirty Four [prOn]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by tre_peter
Perhaps you could only play against other characters which are the same primary profession as your own?

This would be great I think!
Monk vs. Monk going to be FUN.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
1v1 battles would be almost completely dependent on the builds run.
All formats of PVP are already like that anyhow. Guild Wars has always been that the most effective build wins.

1vs1 is a great idea, they should make you be able to get Fame for it too.

Hand of Ruin

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faer
[skill]Signet of Midnight[/skill]

GG.
Mending Touch

GG

Quote:
Originally Posted by tre_peter
Perhaps you could only play against other characters which are the same primary profession as your own?

This would be great I think!
Lol sure... wammo vs wammo, oh what a thrilling match that would be.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faer
[skill]Signet of Midnight[/skill]

GG.
[skill]Plague Touch[/skill] [skill]Sight beyond sight[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill]

GG

Orphan Anthem

Orphan Anthem

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Kinetic Fusion [kF]

I highly doubt it will be a true 1v1 arena. Ill start bringing a w/mo runner and run the other player in circles if that is the case. Furthermore the 1v1 arena has already been said somewhere to be a 1 person 3 Ai vs 1 person 3 Ai arena so that ends that descussion.

Guile

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

All we need now is people to start begging for 1vALL deathmatches.