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Kijik Oni Hanryuu

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Sorry. My main is a mesmer.
AGH! *HATE YOU* lol jk but I do have this bloody hatred of all things mesmer, cept for the echoes I love echo XD I have tried starting a mesmer tho, figure that maybe I need to play one so I can exploit their weakness... but honestly I feel that mesmers=cheapest class ever.. but that's just IMO..

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I heard they're also going to un-approve his names. All of them.
**looks at fow armor and customized crystallines** NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! !!!


Kijik,

How can you hate mesmers? They get no press but they are one of the most over powered classes.

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Originally Posted by leprekan
**looks at fow armor and customized crystallines** NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! !!!


Kijik,

How can you hate mesmers? They get no press but they are one of the most over powered classes.
Then I must really suck at PVP. Oh wait, I posted somewhere that I did.
I'm drinking milk though and someday be strong like hulk.

And Kijik you should try a mesmer. The best way to learn counters for a profession is, just as you said to play one for a little bit.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

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leprekan we have had our disagreements in the past, but I agree with your sarcasm there. Funny thing is.. soon as Ele's get any press, they get nerfed to death.. making them the most underpowered, unless they play flashbot.. flashbots win v.v.. I have a very powerful build with my ele that can smoke a single target in seconds but the problem is, if I post it, everyone will start using it, and it'll get nerfed, and if I use it, then people are gonna find out the build anyway...Nerfpie.. v.v

Oh and Red, I know problem is, I like want to delete my mezzie, because he's taking up my PvP slot >.>..lol

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My mesmer is for PVE though. I sometimes PVP with him just to find that I'm not prepared and get overwhelmed with what I should have done while I'm eating the dirt.
I actually PVP with all things, a E/Rt using Water Magic and Beastie attacks! It's crazy I know.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu
leprekan we have had our disagreements in the past, but I agree with your sarcasm there. Funny thing is.. soon as Ele's get any press, they get nerfed to death.. making them the most underpowered, unless they play flashbot.. flashbots win v.v.. I have a very powerful build with my ele that can smoke a single target in seconds but the problem is, if I post it, everyone will start using it, and it'll get nerfed, and if I use it, then people are gonna find out the build anyway...Nerfpie.. v.v

Oh and Red, I know problem is, I like want to delete my mezzie, because he's taking up my PvP slot >.>..lol
Sorry, if we had a disagreement it didn't leave a lasting impression here.

Food for thought ... what does Anet throw in to kill or hamper farming? MESMERS.

Best advice to you is level that mes and play it for a week you will have a different viewpoint on the class. Any half ass mes can drop a war faster than an ele and I am a warrior lover first.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

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lol my sin drops wars faster than messies too, but yeah I should play as a mesmer seeing as mesmers will never get nerfed, and besides maybe I can counter a mesmer with a mesmer? Anyone know if you can do that?

Priest Of Sin

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Mesmer > All.

Mesmer counters all.

But I just wish they'd freaking nerf Ether Feast... it's SUCH a great heal! /sarcasm.

on a serious note, SF is gonna get smacked by the nerfbat.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

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lol yeah one thing mesmers can't do, is heal themselves..thank god.. and yeah I know that SF is gonna get smacked, I'll bet anything on it, I just wish that they would buff like all of the fire skills in replacement of nerf raping SF..

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You all making me think I stink at PVP even more than I previously though.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

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lol well, I mean you know how to atleast degen something to death in PvP right? you know Conjure Phantasm+Nightmare+Crippling anguish being most popular.

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Yeah, I once tried those with Me/A using Deadly Paradox, Shadow of Haste and Feigned Neutrality. He was a hit and run degen dude.
I still died and only managed to make a person mad at me.
I think I need to speed up me brain muscles some.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

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ouch dude...mayhaps a class change? I hear uhmm Wammos are easy to use

ShaneOfMach

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Have you guys actually tried Searing Flames in PvP yet? It's nothing sepcial for two reasons.

1. It requires you to cast it once before the damage actually applies, and you would probably only get 2-3 shots off before the burning expires
2. No one in PvP is stupid enough to stand close together

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

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from those statements, I am certain that ye have not tried it. and SF isn't terribly powerful alone.. it's Glowing Gaze and Liquid Flame paired with it that pwn.. and it's still gonna get nerfed.. it's being used too much.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu
ouch dude...mayhaps a class change? I hear uhmm Wammos are easy to use
I'm trying a warrior/necromancer now. I need to cap Warrior's Endurance though. Needs lots of energy he does, yes.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
I'm trying a warrior/necromancer now. I need to cap Warrior's Endurance though. Needs lots of energy he does, yes.
Most important thing for pvp is not what or how well your build works. It is how well it works with the other 5 builds. Your best bet is to find 5 friends willing to ha with you and get everyone on teamspeak or vent. Do it for a week and you will see a HUGE improvement in your game play.

Ashleigh McMahon

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Just a guess, but 'Dark Escape' may get nerfed. It could be changed too 'This stance end if you cast a spell, or land a succesfull attack'

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

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yeah considering a caster class can effectively use that as damage mitigation and still be able to pump out damage... I think that Feigned Neutrality is most likely to get hit by a nerf tho..

Orphan Anthem

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SF is ofcorse getting nerfed aswell as Rampage as one.

Also i have a bet going that blinding surge will be 10 energy now so mesmers cant spam blind constantly on melee

Feigned Neutrality is on the choping block aswell as spiritual pain for none elites

I also have bets on Stoneflesh Aura getting nerfed, its just way too much armor for it not to.

Also i see dark DARK times for dervishes in the future

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

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nooooooo please don't nerf my dervish for the love of dwayna don't nerf my dervish.. eh it's gonna happen.. I am also hoping that you win your bet, because I am awful tired of everyone and their mother using Blinding Flash. I wouldn't mind the Stoneflesh Aura nerf, then these earth eles can get off of their high horses. I also get the feeling that Sight Beyond Sight and Spirit's Strength are likely to be nerfed..

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu
nooooooo please don't nerf my dervish for the love of dwayna don't nerf my dervish.. eh it's gonna happen.. I am also hoping that you win your bet, because I am awful tired of everyone and their mother using Blinding Flash. I wouldn't mind the Stoneflesh Aura nerf, then these earth eles can get off of their high horses. I also get the feeling that Sight Beyond Sight and Spirit's Strength are likely to be nerfed..
Noooooooooooooooooooooo!

My second PVE character is a ritualist.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Dei
Now if this guy was running around solo, killing 2-3 people by himself, and suriving against heavy spike assassins and melee-shutdown Mes.

Then only one thing to say. I want their build.
That's the thing, he practically was. There was only two people covering them (a mes and a necro, not even an MM) My guildie was SS'ing him like crazy and I had 8 minions pounding him at the time. It was crazy.

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Jagged bones build i think is what he used.

But ya, Reapers Mark, SF, Blinding Surge( or as I like to refer it as BS) definetly need the nerf bat. And lets not forget ZB, zelous benediciton

The classes nerfedervishes
The classes buff: Warrior, Necro


What I think should be done, in the very very brief version of my skill change list.

Alleji

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Skills I'm sure will get nerfed (some a lot, some just a bit):
Avatar of Grenth
Feigned Neutrality
Blinding Surge
Searing Flames
Spiritual Pain

Skills that will probably get nerfed:
Sandstorm
Steady Stance
Reaper's Mark
Shadow of Haste
Stoneflesh Aura

Skills that needed a nerf for a long time, but won't be touched:
Spiteful Spirit
Order of Apostasy

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Learn the difference between nerf and balance imo.
well if the SF skill gets rebalanced then the SF team gets nerfed cause and effect

As a monk player I see SoA getting "balanced" and Gift of Health getting nerfed. Gify of health because using it with prot spells is almost shall I say a exploit?

-edit I see the damage out put for Spoil Victor being reduced because Spoil Victor on the monk and Scourge healing on the person ur attacking=shutdown.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleji

Skills that needed a nerf for a long time, but won't be touched:
Spiteful Spirit
Order of Apostasy
Spiteful Spirit already seen a balance change. AND I doubt that they will nerf it again anytime soon.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

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yah, easy way to avoid SS hurting you, is, stop attacking, or have a couple things that heal you on hit to negate the effect of SS, or atleast gimp them, and just get away from everyone else so as to not damage them.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu
yah, easy way to avoid SS hurting you, is, stop attacking, or have a couple things that heal you on hit to negate the effect of SS, or atleast gimp them, and just get away from everyone else so as to not damage them.
Or ask your friendly paragon, monk, mesmer to remove it. I just wish paragons looked cooler. I'd like to play one, but I'd have to put a bag over my guy. The armour is not my cup of tea.
My dudes armour should not be showing his legs and belly! That's kinda fruity.