A Few Questions

Xeones The Great

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answer these for pvp and pve

1- whats the best healing elite?
2- whats the best secondary for e-management?
3- whats the best e-management skill that doesnt require too many attribute points in the respective attribute?
4- healing breeze. yes or no?
5- signet of devotion or signet of rejuvenation?
6- woh/infuse...does it work?

plz dont tell me to try them out myself, because i sorta have, but i need experienced opinions, thx =]

Sasuke The Betrayer

Sasuke The Betrayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Angeles

Pink Pearl

Mo/Me

W/Mo! lol.

1. There is no best, but as far as healing elite goes, some really nice ones are

Zealous Benediction
Word of Healing
Light of Deliverance
n some others I forgot.

2. For e management, you tend to see alot of /Me around, because they can do various things such as Mantra of Recall. Or a /N can use Offering of Blood. I've seen a couple monks use /E, using the new buffed glyph of lesser energy.

3. Really can't answer that, it all depends.

4. Healing Breeze=NO NO NO NO. Unless your a W/Mo .... just kidding. If your gonna monk, don't bother bringing healing breeze. It can be shattered constantly by enemies which'll hurt more then it'll heal. I advise something like ethereal light (Factions skill), and even though you'd get interrupted when hit when casting, I doubt you will as you'd be in backline.

5. Sig of Devo is a + in PvP, as you heal very decently. Boon Prots have high divine favor making sig of devo excellent. Signet of Rejuvenation would be good for something like monking in a BP group. The rangers would consistently attack,a nd using SoR would give them a whopping 140+ heal.

6. WoH=Excellent ... Infuse= Excellent in PVP. Infuse isn't needed in PvE, but its excellent with PvP as you can counter large spikes quickly if your fast enough.

Another type is to use gift of health when your running prot. Gift of health won't affect itself, and any other spells because it should be your only healing spell. It should be around 9-10 with a minor rune, giving a very nice heal for a pretty low attribute.

Xeones The Great

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i think, after all this, im gonna run something like this for PvE:
Mo/E

healing - 16
DF - 13

woh{E}
orison
sig devotion
glyph of lesser energy
heal party
dwayna's kiss
healing touch
restore life

or

Mo/Me

healing - 16
DF - 12
inspiration - 6

woh{E}
orison
dwayna's kiss
healing touch
ether signet
signet of devotion
signet of rejuvenation
restore life

so, which one?

Sasuke The Betrayer

Sasuke The Betrayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Angeles

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If you use inspiration, take inspired hex. Restore Life is a no no, never ever bring it. Use the extra attribs into protection and take Rebirth (Its the best, trust me). A monk doesn't want to be wasting time rezz'ing in battle. Using rebirth let's you rez out of aggro range, meaning you can rez out of battle, making rebirth awesome. Let other professions with rez signet, rez in battle, not you. Like I said, I suggest ethereal light. If I chose, I would choose the one above. As a monk, your not supposed to need e management in Pve because if you spam those 5 energy high heal spells (Ethereal, WoH etc) You won't need ANY energy management. But I'd choose the top skill set.

Kuja

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Join Date: May 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeones The Great
answer these for pvp and pve

1- whats the best healing elite? Now with ZB its hard to take woh anymore my mistake, id LoD for PvE or in pvp Lod/Hboon in HA/GVG. I am biased against glimmer since they nerfed it
2- whats the best secondary for e-management? /Skill After that /mesmer /ele
3- whats the best e-management skill that doesnt require too many attribute points in the respective attribute? Channeling and Glyph of lesser energy are two solid ones.
4- healing breeze. yes or no? Just say no to HB.
5- signet of devotion or signet of rejuvenation? Sig of Devo. Sees much more use bc in Divine Favor line sig of rejuv isn't too bad for PvE healing builds.
6- woh/infuse...does it work? Course it does...been around forever, it replaced SB infuse but its still as effective a skill itself.

plz dont tell me to try them out myself, because i sorta have, but i need experienced opinions, thx =] In the quote

Pick Me

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeones The Great
answer these for pvp and pve

1- whats the best healing elite?
2- whats the best secondary for e-management?
3- whats the best e-management skill that doesnt require too many attribute points in the respective attribute?
4- healing breeze. yes or no?
5- signet of devotion or signet of rejuvenation?
6- woh/infuse...does it work?

plz dont tell me to try them out myself, because i sorta have, but i need experienced opinions, thx =] 1) Zelous Benediction or Blessed Light (I like BL better - but for pure healing, ZB)
2) /Mesmer
3) Glyph Of Lesser Energy (requires none)
4) No. You should remove hexes and conditions instead of covering them up.
5) Signet of Devotion. Quicker recharge and better heal.
6) Yes. Get ZB instead, as it will heal for the same, but it will also cost 0 energy.

Xeones The Great

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wtf pick me, do u see my attributes? 16 heal 12 divine 6 inspiration...do u see protection for ZB? no. and also, i dont like BL cuz its divine favor and im running a 16 healing prayers build.

im talking about these: glimmer of light, healing light, light of deliverance, word of healing... and its funny how u said /me is the best for e management then u say glyph of lesser energy is the best e management skill...hmm...

Burst Cancel

Burst Cancel

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Join Date: Dec 2006

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He said Glyph of Lesser because it takes no attribute points and you asked for the best emgt skill that doesn't require much attribute investment. Please read your own damn question.

Healing Breeze and Orison are garbage. I don't understand why they are still coming up after so many people have posted solid arguments for why they are terrible skills.

If you're going to bring a res, there's no reason not to bring Rebirth.

I still don't understand why you would play a pure healing build.

olly123

olly123

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pick Me
1) Zelous Benediction or Blessed Light (I like BL better - but for pure healing, ZB)
2) /Mesmer
3) Glyph Of Lesser Energy (requires none)
4) No. You should remove hexes and conditions instead of covering them up.
5) Signet of Devotion. Quicker recharge and better heal.
6) Yes. Get ZB instead, as it will heal for the same, but it will also cost 0 energy. i have to say i agree with pick me there, tho i would add WoH, to the top question

and he said ZB, because ti is better than WoH, self use, same heal and (tho not tecnicly free, if interuped it is still 10e and u have to have a pool of 10e to cast it any way) free, witch means ur have to chang ur build to a protection

ZB
Gift of health
Revesalso of fortue
SoA
PS/SB (prefer PS, as its a sold 20 secons)
Dissmiss condition. (best self remover as well as any remover, nice recharge + good heal with an inchantment on them)
Holy vail/inspire hex
channaling (HA only, res for PVE, other monk move here for other PVP)

have 9/10 in healing with a minor
about 11 in protection with hat + minor
about 4 in insperation
rest in divine with minor

its the perfect protection build

@Burst Cancel, i only take orsiron in HA now, becuase of its only interuptable agians moves that interupt it meands i have a secondery move to heal me, that A takes average time, is low energy and heals for a bit, when touch is recharging, in thoese 5 seocns u coudl b B-spike, rspike - warrior spike any means of spike. if u can name me a skil lto replace it ill b in ur debt, as internal light is easy interuptable ,agiasnt RaOs, thats useless

Ensign

Ensign

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Join Date: Dec 2004

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The Nightfall Healing elites blow away anything from the first two chapters. Glimmer, Boon, LoD, take your pick, figure out which one you like if you want to play a Healer.

GLE is the best emanagement available to any caster as a secondary.

Peace,
-CxE

holden

holden

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

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Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeones The Great
wtf pick me, do u see my attributes? 16 heal 12 divine 6 inspiration...do u see protection for ZB? no. and also, i dont like BL cuz its divine favor and im running a 16 healing prayers build.

im talking about these: glimmer of light, healing light, light of deliverance, word of healing... and its funny how u said /me is the best for e management then u say glyph of lesser energy is the best e management skill...hmm...
you ask for experienced opinions, you get one, then you talk shit.

nice.

everything he said was right and you'd be better off with high divine and skills from the prot line than the inferior healing skills.

learn the game a little. then talk trash.

Age

Age

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Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

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Mo/

I will put it this way.

1 to me is WoH
2 don't use muc of what is in /Mes/N or /E but do use Bonetti's it is good for
bonders.I haven't tried GLE since it buff on my Ele.
3 Same as 2.
4 in PvP no in PvE some places yes and is farming yes.
5 It depends on the situation Sod don't have SoR
6 Yes it does.

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

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W/Mo

4 player team with me being the only monk: Zealous Benediction
PvP with more monks: Blessed Light
PvE: Word of Healing
as for te rest its very dependent on the situation I'm in, rigid builds are a little too easy

Sab

Sab

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Know that there's more to Monking than the Healing line. But in any case, Healer's Boon, Light of Deliverance and Glimmer of Light are generally the best Healing elites, and Blessed Light and Zealous Benediction for Prot.

Channeling for EManagement in HA, Glyph of Lesser Energy for everywhere else.

Blu

Blu

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1. WoH, LoD, Glimmer perhaps
2. Probably Mesmer
3. Channeling, glyph of lesser energy
4. No, you could be using better skills for 10 energy
5. Signet of devotion is more pvpish i guess, while signet of rejuvenation is good with people spamming something
6. Yes, from my experience it has worked well, as you can heal regularly with ease and spike heal

Xeones The Great

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so, are heal monks officially out of businessnow or what? is prot way WAY better than healing? well, that sucks. =[

ok, i changed my mind. i need answers for PvE for later game mission with 8 ppl, 1 prot monk, 1 heal monk. =]

from what i have collected:

Mo/E

heal - 16
DF - 13
prot - 3

word of healing {E}
infuse health
glyph of lesser energy
heal party
sig of devotion
healing touch
mend condition
rebirth

how is it???

random.name

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

South Africa

N/

For a pure healer I run:

1. Word of Healing
2. Healing Whisper
3. Orison of Healing (yeah, I know it sucks, but its a selfheal)
4. Signet of Rejuvenation
5. Heal Party (in rof missions a must)
6. Hex removal
7. Condition removal
8. Rebirth

For prot I run
1. ZB
2. RoF
3. SoA
4. Gift of Health
6. PS or SB depending on the mission.
6. Hex Removal
7. Condition Removal
8. Rebirth

Mostly I find myself running the second build only. It heals as well as a full heal build, with the added bonus of better energy management, and serious protection.

For energy management you dont need a secondary, you just need self control.

Lastly I wish to point out that you were asking for build help. Just because you dont like the answer, does not mean you are allowed to flame a poster. If you dont want to hear the answers, dont ask the questions.

blackdoctor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

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Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by random.name
For a pure healer I run:

3. Orison of Healing (yeah, I know it sucks, but its a selfheal)
First of all Orison of Healing never sucks, it's a cheap healing, low energy, good recharge, good cast, the bread and butter of every monk healer.

About selfheal i guess you are missing healing touch, free bonus from divine favor.

Protective Spirit is a must on every monk build, no matter if you are smitter, healer or prot, one of the best skills for spikes.

And for this statement:

For energy management you dont need a secondary, you just need self control.

It's so BEAUTIFUL man, you are my new idol, lol, many people forget that a monk must help to complete the quest the mission or the quest, not to keep everyone alive, specially those that want to be Leeroy Wankers.

Regards

Burst Cancel

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackdoctor
First of all Orison of Healing never sucks, it's a cheap healing, low energy, good recharge, good cast, the bread and butter of every monk healer. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...9&postcount=18

Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.
Orison is a terrible skill.

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

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MO

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeones The Great
answer these for pvp and pve

1- whats the best healing elite?
2- whats the best secondary for e-management?
3- whats the best e-management skill that doesnt require too many attribute points in the respective attribute?
4- healing breeze. yes or no?
5- signet of devotion or signet of rejuvenation?
6- woh/infuse...does it work?

plz dont tell me to try them out myself, because i sorta have, but i need experienced opinions, thx =] 1. Blessed light, or possibly zealous benediction.
2. elementalist for glyph of lesser energy
3. glyph of lesser energy.
4. Not if you're seriously monking.
5. Signet of devotion.
6. if the other monk has woh, yes.

Xeones The Great

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so many answers, dont know what to do lol

ppl saying woh woh woh!!!
others saying screw heal u noob go prot ZB!!!!
and now im getting blessed light, glimmer, LoD... jeez!!!

ok, idk if this is asking too much, but can someone compare all these in detail?

woh, LoD, ZB, blessed light, healer's boon, glimmer of light

and HEAL OR PROT?????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

Word of Healing is shit. So are Orison of Healing and Healing Breeze, while we're at it. When you see someone start a build with those skills, you should think, "this poster is terrible at Guild Wars. I should not listen to him."

The rest of the healing options have their own benefits, which I would hope would appear obvious (LoD = great against massive, diffuse damage; Healer's Boon = less, bigger, more efficient heals; Glimmer = fast heal spam), and you can debate which of those are the best. Realistically the strengths of those are going to depend on both the situation and the rest of your bar, so there's no easy answer.

Prot builds are more involved, and tend to be preferred by better players - since you get damage reduction, condition and hex removal, in addition to strong healing power. If you're running a Prot build, you're looking at Zealous Benediction, Blessed Light, or Divert Hexes for your elite. In the case of Prot elites, which one you run is almost entirely dictated by environment.

Peace,
-CxE

Xeones The Great

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lol im terrible at guild wars. no one listen to me. i dont prot. i use woh. i suck.

Ensign

Ensign

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...that's why you're asking for advice instead of trying to give it, right?

Seriously though, healers aren't useless, they can still pump out more healing per time than protection characters, and if that's what you want to do by all means play one. Light of Deliverance lets you heal a team under heavy pressure extremely efficiently, Healer's Boon makes everything bigger and more efficient (you have to be a lot smarter about your heals with Boon up, but it does save you energy in the long run), and Glimmer is a decent, fast heal if all you want to do is fire off bar toppers. Different roles, different elites, that can't be duplicated by Prot characters. If you're unsure about which one to bring, Light of Deliverance is the best combination of strength and ease of use, I'd recommend that one for starting out. I'm not a big Glimmer fan, but it is fast, and that counts for something, right?

Peace,
-CxE

warriorsmiley

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Like Ensign said WOH just plain sucks. Its to conditional to be worth a slot on my skill bar which means its even worse as my elite slot. Its basically a glorified orison of healing with a slight chance of a plus heal since the extra healing comes into play after divine favor and the first heal. If your healing someone with a deepwound that would probable be the only time you will see the extra heal go into play but its more effective to remove the deepwound all together. I have never played a pure heal bar in pve I found that half heal and half prot works out to be better to me mainly using prot spirit, ROF(probable best monk skill),and a condition removal a hex removal and some bar toppers with a rez skill works best for me.

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign
If you're running a Prot build, you're looking at Zealous Benediction, Blessed Light, or Divert Hexes for your elite. In the case of Prot elites, which one you run is almost entirely dictated by environment. No love for RC?

Random Monk

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by warriorsmiley
Like Ensign said WOH just plain sucks. Its to conditional to be worth a slot on my skill bar which means its even worse as my elite slot. Its basically a glorified orison of healing with a slight chance of a plus heal since the extra healing comes into play after divine favor and the first heal. This has been fixed. The bonus from WoH is checked for before Divine Favor and the first part of the heal kicks in. It checks whether to heal for the extra, then all the healing kicks in. Divine Boon appears to be a different story though (as if August it was reported that it went Divine Boon then the 50% check).

For those that do play a full heal bar in PvE, WoH is a good choice for an elite. With the proper other skills, energy management is not a problem. WoH is still useful, especially in later areas of the game (when you are more likely to see a person drop below 50%). During smaller or less dangerous battles, WoH can be used to top a person's bar.

If you do play a full healer, look at your other skills, how well you keep your groups alive, your experience with different monk builds, and what part of the game you are at. If you don't seem to be keeping your team satisfied with your healing, try a different build/elite. What works for some may not work for others. If WoH works for you an your teams, why bother changing it?
New builds may take some time to get used to, so if you do decide to change your elite, I would suggest against doing it at the mission/quest you are at. Go back to some earlier missions and practice there.

Franco Power

Franco Power

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

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W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeones The Great
answer these for pvp and pve

1- whats the best healing elite?
2- whats the best secondary for e-management?
3- whats the best e-management skill that doesnt require too many attribute points in the respective attribute?
4- healing breeze. yes or no?
5- signet of devotion or signet of rejuvenation?
6- woh/infuse...does it work?

plz dont tell me to try them out myself, because i sorta have, but i need experienced opinions, thx =] 1-PvP depends on what your other team members are running, usually ZB,LoD,BL,RC,GOL,HB are the most popular elites as there is no "best".
2-/E glyph of lesser energy followed by /ME channeling in HA.
3-Glyph of lesser energy
4- No
5- devotion
6-not really.

Pick Me

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeones The Great
lol im terrible at guild wars. no one listen to me. i dont prot. i use woh. i suck. Word of Healing was the best Elite in the Monk's repetoir when only Prophecies was available. If it still is the only campaign you have, then keep it.

Since you wanted a Healer Monk with an Elite dedicated to Healing Prayers, then your options are:

Healing Hands - horrible
Word of Healing - Best for Prophecies only.
Healing Burst - good for self-heal, but why waste an elite on yourself?
Healing Light - good heal (if you pack enchantments too)
Glimmering Light - great heal
Healer's Convent - horrible; why waste 25% of your healing power to save 3 energy?
Light of Deliverance - heals very little and conditional, resulting in a bad skill

Hope this helps you in your decision of what is the "best" Healing Prayers Elite.

Oh yeah, I'm not taking your previous post too personal. I did read your stats, but then again your initial post didn't say that I was limited in my answers (only healing prayer elites, each question is connected to each other, so each answer is related to each other, etc.)

The only way you'll get better is from experience and asking questions.

Good luck with your monk.

Xeones The Great

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thanks, and i do have NF and factions, but its just that many, if not all, groups in later game missions and say HA need a woh monk. idk if theyre stupid i just dont know lol. so far i still think zb and woh are the best. so since i have all other questions answered, heres the new one:

prot ZB or heal WoH for prophecies PvE and i have all campaigns?
just give me an answer becuz all i want is an effective monk, thx.

Effigy

Effigy

Jungle Guide

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Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pick Me
Light of Deliverance - heals very little and conditional, resulting in a bad skill Dude, it's Heal Party for 5 energy. How can you call that a bad skill? The condition is unimportant. If someone is above 80% health, they don't need to be healed.

Healer's Boon is also great, as it not only makes your heals bigger and more efficient, but also faster. Since slow cast times are one of the main weaknesses of Healing Prayers, this is not to be overlooked. When I capped HB, it was the first time I'd had fun playing a pure healer since Prophecies.

Pick Me

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Effigy
Dude, it's Heal Party for 5 energy. How can you call that a bad skill? The condition is unimportant. If someone is above 80% health, they don't need to be healed.

Healer's Boon is also great, as it not only makes your heals bigger and more efficient, but also faster. Since slow cast times are one of the main weaknesses of Healing Prayers, this is not to be overlooked. When I capped HB, it was the first time I'd had fun playing a pure healer since Prophecies. Elite form of Heal Party is slightly weaker than Heal Party but has a lower cost. Divine Favor does not work on this spell (except for maybe self). Its fine if you don't want to overheal the whole group, but in all fairness, if people are being pounded, then:

1) why is the whole group suffering?
2) I need better heals than upto 65 for the group (bring in the Ritualist )

Seriously, I think a good healing prayers elite should heal for a lot, rather than spread a big heal into small little ones and distribute that heal to the rest of the group.

I considered it a bad skill based on my own preference. (FYI - 450 health X 20% = 90 damage, heal for 65 health to each player below 80% max health. Thus does not bring everyone to full health even at 80% of max health).

Healer's Boon is definately great, but its a Divine Favor elite, thus, not what Xenones was looking for.

If you want to be a pure healer, then use Glimmering Light. If you want to be an effective monk, then Zealous Benediction.

Mitigating damage is sometimes better than actual heals. In Prophecies, watchout for Mesmers and the occational Necromancer, as they can strip your enchantments very fast. Towers can also (in fire island).

In RA, from what I've heard, just about anything works, so don't be confused about people asking for WoH.

Light Of Deliverance is good, as Ensign had said if your group is being pounded. But, as I said why is your entire team being pounded? Group co-ordination is always key (even in RA).

Hope I didn't confuse you.

Blame the Monks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign
If you're running a Prot build, you're looking at Zealous Benediction, Blessed Light, or Divert Hexes for your elite. In the case of Prot elites, which one you run is almost entirely dictated by environment. Ensign, I'm curious as to your thoughts on Blight. In the past, I used BL because it was versatile -- it was self targetable, large chunk heal that could also be effective against light hexes or conditions or in splits. Since NF came out, I have found this skill to be eclipsed by more conditional but more powerful elites (such as ZB, RC, and Divert) that can completely knock out certain categories of team builds.

When do you suggest running Blight and why? Thanks in advance.

Keira Darkwind

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Join Date: May 2005

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I used to use WOH, pre-Nightfall, as part of a 5 energy healing build. It was great energy management wise.
Now though I like Light of Deliverance for a healer, it's very useful in many situations and energy efficient.

Age

Age

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Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

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Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign
...that's why you're asking for advice instead of trying to give it, right?

Seriously though, healers aren't useless, they can still pump out more healing per time than protection characters, and if that's what you want to do by all means play one. Light of Deliverance lets you heal a team under heavy pressure extremely efficiently, Healer's Boon makes everything bigger and more efficient (you have to be a lot smarter about your heals with Boon up, but it does save you energy in the long run), and Glimmer is a decent, fast heal if all you want to do is fire off bar toppers. Different roles, different elites, that can't be duplicated by Prot characters. If you're unsure about which one to bring, Light of Deliverance is the best combination of strength and ease of use, I'd recommend that one for starting out. I'm not a big Glimmer fan, but it is fast, and that counts for something, right?

Peace,
-CxE That all depends if you are cheap like me and don't buy some of these new elites.I did however cap LoD.

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dgb
No love for RC?
RC certainly isn't a bad skill by any stretch, but it hasn't been relevant to the metagame for a while. It's something to keep in the back of your mind if the meta turns back but not a skill I'd seriously consider at this juncture.


Quote: Originally Posted by Random Monk If WoH works for you an your teams, why bother changing it? Because you could potentially be much stronger with other skills.


Quote: Originally Posted by Pick Me 1) why is the whole group suffering? Could be several reasons. Monsters don't really hold aggro terribly well anymore, they love to break off and get into your mid/backline without really expert body blocking and the like. Multiple people taking damage is par for the course, really. I don't think you ever really want to be planning around only one person taking damage as a Monk, because those situations are so trivially easy to deal with.


Quote: Originally Posted by Pick Me
2) I need better heals than upto 65 for the group Light of Deliverance heals for 85 at 16 spec, 75 at 14. The heal size is right on par with Heal Party, but much cheaper and much faster. I don't think we can have much of a conversation if you don't think that Heal Party is the best tool for dealing with lots of people taking damage.


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Originally Posted by Pick Me
(FYI - 450 health X 20% = 90 damage, heal for 65 health to each player below 80% max health. Thus does not bring everyone to full health even at 80% of max health). Who cares? Do you make a habit of healing people at 95% health?


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Originally Posted by Blame the Monks
When do you suggest running Blight and why? Thanks in advance. It's really strong against the 'best' hexes - Diversion, Shame, Freezing Gust, Deep Freeze, Shadow Prison, etc. It's not totally sweet against anything, but does make you pretty robust.

Peace,
-CxE

martialis

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

RA, reporting you

ZB

Infuse health is very specialised and should never be used in PvE. I like Light of Deliverance. I think it's pretty good.
In some places, RC and Divert Hexes are the best heals, but then other times, they don't do anything at all.

Xeones The Great

Xeones The Great

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godam, my brain hurts lol.

olly123

olly123

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

sh*tvill england

tgc

Mo/

u should ahve never of asked then should u :P, but uve had soem great feed back, and take what every one has said with a pinch of salt, because its manyly prefrences. tho ZB is a nice elite, ur some things find that RC, works s much better or divert hexs because of the are ur running in

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Zealous Benediction: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Zealous_Benediction

Word of Healing: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Word_of_Healing

Glimmer of Light: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Glimmer_of_Light

Light of Deliverance:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Light_of_Deliverance

take your pick, im leaning towards either ZB or WoH.